Who's Better: Cyclops or Storm?

[Jellobay]

Mutant Massacre.

Fall of the Mutants.

Inferno, to a certain extent.

c'mon folks, lets be fair here. both characters have examples of solid, effective leadership.

Psss .. Xakko.

They don't like it when you bring up the Massacre. I've learned the hardway. :(

Poor morlocks.

But I agree I think we whould all just hug and end this tread. (With Cyclops 7 ahead)

How about it?

** opens arms wide **

... anyone ... anyone ... big hug ... over here people

[Hi-Fi]

Poor morlocks.




Poor human kids on the bus.

[Brian M.]

Absurdity such as this has caused me to drop nearly all of the X-books and consider all of the current X-books non-canon. :cool:


WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?

Seriously...are you trying to derail every thread?

[Jellobay]

Poor human kids on the bus.

I know, you whould have thought Storm would have cared about the children. I mean she all about saving the mutant children right?

Oh thats right they were depowered. She must not care about that then. ;)

[Jellobay]

Still waiting for my hug people. ;)

[Brian M.]

Cyclops = Good

Storm = likes to kill puppies and kittens.

[Hi-Fi]

I know, you whould have thought Storm would have cared about the children. I mean she all about saving the mutant children right?

Oh thats right they were depowered. She must not care about that then. ;)

Whatever. Cyclops was the one in charge.:cool:

He pratically cut those kids wrists himself.

[Hi-Fi]

Cyclops = Good

Storm = likes to kill puppies and kittens.

Cyclops = abandoned his wife and kid.

Storm = didn't quit the X-Men even for Forge.

[Jellobay]

Whatever. Cyclops was the one in charge.:cool:

He pratically cut those kids wrists himself.

He was trying to send them to safety, but was a missle to late. :) At least he went the funeral. Storm too busy with a wedding to care about dead kids. ;)

[Jellobay]

Cyclops = abandoned his wife and kid.

Storm = didn't quit the X-Men even for Forge.

Forge wasn't royalty, so she did want to lower herself to be with him. She wanted to marry someone more superior, like a king. :D

[Hi-Fi]

Hey, remember when Storm permited the humans to put tags in mutants??


Oh, wait, that was Cyclops.

[Brian Cronin]

Tell ya what.

First one to a hundred wins, and the thread will close.

And remember, I have tools that can see if someone is cheating, so I can just call it for the other side.

-Brian

[Hi-Fi]

He was trying to send them to safety, but was a missle to late. :) At least he went the funeral. Storm too busy with a wedding to care about dead kids. ;)

What safety?? He was trying to get rid of them, because being humans now they weren't important anymore. Kinda like the thing you were acusing Storm before...

[Hi-Fi]

Forge wasn't royalty, so she did want to lower herself to be with him. She wanted to marry someone more superior, like a king. :D

Well, at least she didn't abandoned her wife and son to do that. But we all know Cyclops doenst care about kids, right?

[Jellobay]

Hey, remember when Storm permited the humans to put tags in mutants??


Oh, wait, that was Cyclops.

They were mostly villians, I would have tagged them too. :)

[Jellobay]

Well, at least she didn't abandoned her wife and son to do that. But we all know Cyclops doenst care about kids, right?


He cared enough to send his son into the future to save him. I'm a dad and I know that would really hurt. But to save his life I would do anything.

[unkiedev]

I would care, but then again, I have feelings. ;)

I would think that since Storm is such an unselfish person and befriends children, that some of those poor kids on that poor bus would have considered her a friend. But maybe I am just kidding myself to think that she would have really cared for them.

I think Banshee considered Storm part of the X-man family, but maybe the love didn't go both ways.
I really do not know what you're talking about. What kids and what bus? are you talking about Stampford?

And now Banshee. Let's see, Uncanny X-Men 249 (or 250?) Havoc kills Storm with friendly fire. Of course, being the X-Univers, she wasn't dead, but kidnapped by nanny and turned into a child? Havoc kills Storm, anyway. Cyclops's OTHER BROTHER kills Banshee with a plane because he hates the X-men.

I'm sure Storm was saddened to learn of Banshee's death. Someone should really stop the Summers family from killing their fellow X-Men. Take that.

[Jellobay]

Tell ya what.

First one to a hundred wins, and the thread will close.

And remember, I have tools that can see if someone is cheating, so I can just call it for the other side.

-Brian

Sounds good Brian. :)

Though those two little posters have never posted again. 1 post, 1 vote on here and then poof they were gone.

[unkiedev]

Sounds good Brian. :)

Though those two little posters have never posted again. 1 post, 1 vote on here and then poof they were gone.
No way. The voting has been going up and down on this one all the time. Sometimes Storm's up, sometimes Scott is...the voting can't resolve the conflict.

[element13]

But its funny that every time there is a major X-men event the first person they turn to is Cyclops. Has there ever been a major X-event that Storm was the leader.

In House of M (A Major Marvel U event )when Cap wasn't around who did the heroes follow. Was it Storm. Wait they didn't even think enough of her to put her on their team.


1)yes, there have been events where storm was the leader. besides, cyke is basically xavier junior, so he would be the focal point of any event. storm has almost completley burned her bridge to xavier.

2) why would they travel to africa and get in the middle of a battle of power from the world leaders, risk their lives in the process, and risk running out of time for just one person?

[phantom1592]

why do people harp on storm for taking a leave of absence from the x-men for the first time in 15 years when cyke has left the x-men many, many times? yes, mutantkind is in danger, but how many mutants do they need at the mansion?

In his defense, Cyclops usually leaves when there is down time. Not in the middle of a crisis. AND when he is needed he's there ;)


storm is helping thousands of people over in africa. is she really going to make that big of a difference that now everyone is insulting her because she isn't at the mansion?

A real leader would make a difference :p


heaven forbid she does one thing for herself instead of the x-men for once. she has given up everything she had for the x-men, and the second she does something for herself everyone complains?

WHAT did she give up?!? She was a street urchin stealling to survive, till she ended up a savage living off the land. When Xavier found her she was wearing a loincloth! The X-men had to teach her about wearing clothes and bathing in public :)


Unless you meant the whole worshipped as a god. Yeah, that would have been pretty cool :)

[Doom Hammer]

Cyclops is certainly in a better place right now. Between Morrison and Whedon's X-runs, he's getting a lot of screen-time, with remarkable developments and truly human characterization. I love everything that's being done with him, and he is my favorite X-Man.

Storm is...well, you know. Punk-tastic mohawk Storm is gone, as is disillusioned rebel leader Storm. Now we have Hudlin-Storm, which I refuse to read.

[unkiedev]

Besides, The major complaint here seems to be Storm is abandoning the X-men by not being in the X-Mansion. Let's look at the facts:

Scarlet Witch removes the powers of 99% of the World's Mutants.

The X-men are a group dedicatd to the proposition that Mutants and Humans should co-exist peacefully.

Scott (emma, really, but Scott is her mouth-piece and grunt) Decides to gather all the eggs in one basket and Host all remaining 198 mutants in the Mansion. This is presumably done to protect them from their enemies. What is the result? The Enemies go to the Mansion where they all are.

Instead of hiding, going underground and subterfuge Scott hands the enemy a giant target.

-Storm disagrees with this option. She feels conflicted, because she wants to help her fellow mutants and friends, but she thinks Scott and Emma's plan is out to lunch (and I do, too.)

Scott supporters keep giving the woman flack for not falling in line with the biggest strategic mistake in the team's history.

Isn't there an axiom about putting all yer' eggs in one basket?

[Brian M.]

Besides, The major complaint here seems to be Storm is abandoning the X-men by not being in the X-Mansion. Let's look at the facts:

Scarlet Witch removes the powers of 99% of the World's Mutants.

The X-men are a group dedicatd to the proposition that Mutants and Humans should co-exist peacefully.

Scott (emma, really, but Scott is her mouth-piece and grunt) Decides to gather all the eggs in one basket and Host all remaining 198 mutants in the Mansion. This is presumably done to protect them from their enemies. What is the result? The Enemies go to the Mansion where they all are.

Instead of hiding, going underground and subterfuge Scott hands the enemy a giant target.

-Storm disagrees with this option. She feels conflicted, because she wants to help her fellow mutants and friends, but she thinks Scott and Emma's plan is out to lunch (and I do, too.)

Scott supporters keep giving the woman flack for not falling in line with the biggest strategic mistake in the team's history.

Isn't there an axiom about putting all yer' eggs in one basket?


Well isn't there something to be said for leaving them out there seperated from help. The X-Men can't be everywhere at once.

[Doom Hammer]

Isn't there an axiom about putting all yer' eggs in one basket?

There is, but when your eggs have giant robots guarding them, and death-rays that shoot from their eyes, and super-brain powers and the like...the chance for success is a bit larger.:D

Having said that, it is a messed-up strategy, but it's a state of emergency. It's most likely better than the alternative, which involves the systematic extinction of mutants, extreme paranoia, etc.

[Huzzah!]

Again any time someone mentions storm in africa i have to bring up the fact that CYclops left the x-men, after Colossus' entire family got iced btw, because Psylocke kissed him

WUSSSSSYYYYYYYYYy

And Morlocks=adults who have been living on their own and have some powers

New Mutants= kids with no powers

One was killed by a real threat.

One was killed by a bazooka.


Plus considering Cyclops is basically letting the new mutants wonder around to get shot as opposed to ...you know...locking down the school...its no wonder Xavier wanted Jean to take over.

Plus he brough a drug dealer into the school

[unkiedev]

There is, but when your eggs have giant robots guarding them, and death-rays that shoot from their eyes, and super-brain powers and the like...the chance for success is a bit larger.:D

Having said that, it is a messed-up strategy, but it's a state of emergency. It's most likely better than the alternative, which involves the systematic extinction of mutants, extreme paranoia, etc.
Should we run some scenarios?

You have Two teleporters hanging out right now: nightcrawler and Gateway. you have Access to other dimensions: Magic's realm, mojoworld, others. You have alies with space ships, the shiar and others, who could take you away.

If you want to hunker everybody down and hide there are safer places then a bombed out old school. Want to put all yer eggs into one basket? How about The Omniverse place with Captain Britain, or the moon or ANYPLACE.

This current plan is moronic. This is the worst leadership in the history of the team...maybe. it's still pretty bad.

[unkiedev]

Again any time someone mentions storm in africa i have to bring up the fact that CYclops left the x-men, after Colossus' entire family got iced btw, because Psylocke kissed him

WUSSSSSYYYYYYYYYy

And Morlocks=adults who have been living on their own and have some powers

New Mutants= kids with no powers

One was killed by a real threat.

One was killed by a bazooka.


Plus considering Cyclops is basically letting the new mutants wonder around to get shot as opposed to ...you know...locking down the school...its no wonder Xavier wanted Jean to take over.

Plus he brough a drug dealer into the school
Abso-freakin'-lutely!

And ANOTHER thing. Folks keep saying 9jellobaby in particular) that "storm doesn't care that her friends and family are dying/getting killed." What about Scott/Emma's hard-line stance that NO HUMANS, ONLY MUTANTS can stay in the Mansion. How is this plan:
A) Benefitting Mutants and Humans living peacefully together
or
B) Protecting Friends and Family. Scott kicked chucky out of the mansion. Chucky would never have done that....he would have let everybody stay and worked out some gruesome scenario involving the few sacrificing themselves for the many, but whatever.

Scott tells the New Mutants and Chuck to go hang themselves because they aren't Homo Sapien Superior? People he has fought next to and broken bread with? Piss poor, man. Scott should be ashamed.

[Red Lotus]

Mutant Massacre.

Fall of the Mutants.

Inferno, to a certain extent.

c'mon folks, lets be fair here. both characters have examples of solid, effective leadership.


Fall of the mutants I will kind of give but only because Cyclops was with X-factor and the two teams didn't cross over in what was a crossover but wasn't:confused:. But Inferno when the two teams crossedover Cyclops was the leader.

[xakko]

Fall of the mutants I will kind of give but only because Cyclops was with X-factor and the two teams didn't cross over in what was a crossover but wasn't:confused:. But Inferno when the two teams crossedover Cyclops was the leader.
Cyke told Storm to keep "her team" in order at one point

and it was Storm's command decision to use her lightning to overtax Nasty and destroy him.

[Red Lotus]

Cyke told Storm to keep "her team" in order at one point

and it was Storm's command decision to use her lightning to overtax Nasty and destroy him.


So Storm can follow orders good for her.

[Deus ex Chris]

Why can't you just let me have my own opinions? ;)
I haven't asked you to change your opinions or to stop having them, but I have asked you to support them, and you can't or won't.

[element13]

WHAT did she give up?!? She was a street urchin stealling to survive, till she ended up a savage living off the land. When Xavier found her she was wearing a loincloth! The X-men had to teach her about wearing clothes and bathing in public :)


Unless you meant the whole worshipped as a god. Yeah, that would have been pretty cool :)


1)giving up everything she's ever known

2)the people she loved and called family

3)almost no chance at an out-side life. she sure is a hell of a lot more dedicated to the x-men than scott

4)relationships

5) almost all emotion. storm had to be in control at all times, or else the weather would go out of control

[unkiedev]

Scott is a soldier under Emma. Who disagrees?

Who wants to defend Scott/Emma's decision to put all mutants on one target?

Who wants to defend Scott/Emma's decision to kick all non mutants out of the mansion, even if they fought for the x-men before?

Who still wants to claim Scott is a good leader?

[LordAllMighty]

Fall of the mutants I will kind of give but only because Cyclops was with X-factor and the two teams didn't cross over in what was a crossover but wasn't:confused:. But Inferno when the two teams crossedover Cyclops was the leader.

You might want to read that story again.

AAMOF, Storm put Cyke back in his place, when he tried to question her action in combat.

Good read.

[phantom1592]

1)giving up everything she's ever knownAs did Colossus, Nightcrawler, Wolverine.... The X-men was a new concept to them all

2)the people she loved and called family
All the X-men came from somewhere else. With the Blackbird she certainly could have visited.

3)almost no chance at an out-side life. she sure is a hell of a lot more dedicated to the x-men than scott
4)relationships

What was wrong with Forge? He was an X-men. Nightcrawler and her got friendly a few time. If she doesn't have an outside life, it really is her own fault. Cyclops got married, Wolverine is an Avenger, Nightcrawler became a priest. They have free time. She just spent it in the attic with her garden. Xavier didn't forbid her to have a life.

One thing that I always found interesting is how you go to school to learn these powers and NEVER LEAVE. Also who sends their kids to a school whose Phys ED class involves killer robots that USUALLY have safety protocols :confused:

There isn't anything wrong with growing up and having a life. As long as your there when you're needed :)



5) almost all emotion. storm had to be in control at all times, or else the weather would go out of control

Bahh, that's like saying cyclops wears the ruby quartz for the X-mens sake. She has to control her emotions ANYWHERE. Just part of her thing.

[phantom1592]

Scott is a soldier under Emma. Who disagrees?

Who wants to defend Scott/Emma's decision to put all mutants on one target?

Who wants to defend Scott/Emma's decision to kick all non mutants out of the mansion, even if they fought for the x-men before?
Who still wants to claim Scott is a good leader?

I WILL, I WILL!!! :D

I just started coming back to the X-men with Astonishing. I skipped out on the black leather/soap opera/ thing with Frost first hooking up with Scott. So I can't speak for earlier stuff.

In Astonishing, It seems that Scott is making all the decisions and Emma is agreeing with HIM. I don't know what their trying to do, but it seems likes she's concerned that he's distancing himself from her. Might just be me though.

Putting all the mutants in one spot. EXCELLENT idea. They are being attacked by an unknown force, so they consolidated their power. Taking inventory of who's still left. This is a good first step. They want to defend Mutants, it easier if you know where they are.

Second step. Get rid of the non mutants. The mansion has become a powder keg. A large target. NOT the place for human children. You are going to have Humans jealous of the ones that got to keep their powers. Your going to have mutants that are jealous they weren't made normal. Both cases result in injured humans. They really don't have the manpower to watch them. They are still in Stage one of a crisis, and things will get better later with the Jubiliee's when things calm down.

PLUS the world hates Mutants. NOT humans. They should have been safe out in the real world. THAT was a miscalculation, but humans should have been able to blend in better and been safer out there.

[Red Lotus]

Every Leader has their ups and downs. You can't point out one down and say because Storm wasn't a good enough leader the Morlock got killed. But you can point out and say when they (Storm and Cyclops) are on the same team who is the leader. Its not Storm. If Storm was a better leader then him it would be. You can also say that when Cap wasn't around and the heroes of the world needed a leader that it was Cyclops. Which tells me that the Marvel U they think Cyclops is second only to Cap.

I really do love how people are acting like Cyclops ran off to Alaska and stayed for months. It was for what a week and he came back and to lead the team against Magneto.

Also didn’t Storm tell Cyclops that it was selfish but her own life had been in turmoil and she needed to gain perspective? So basically Storm was stressed out and she needed a break. A break that has lasted months and yeah she did some good but again Storm said it herself it was selfish(good way to be dedicated to the X-Men). But hey when Cyclops did the same thing and went to Alaska (for a week) where he not only fought the Dark Riders but he also came back with Info on the legacy virus. Maybe Storm will come back and tell the team where she and T'Challa are registered.

[unkiedev]

I WILL, I WILL!!! :D

I just started coming back to the X-men with Astonishing. I skipped out on the black leather/soap opera/ thing with Frost first hooking up with Scott. So I can't speak for earlier stuff.

In Astonishing, It seems that Scott is making all the decisions and Emma is agreeing with HIM. I don't know what their trying to do, but it seems likes she's concerned that he's distancing himself from her. Might just be me though.

Putting all the mutants in one spot. EXCELLENT idea. They are being attacked by an unknown force, so they consolidated their power. Taking inventory of who's still left. This is a good first step. They want to defend Mutants, it easier if you know where they are.

Second step. Get rid of the non mutants. The mansion has become a powder keg. A large target. NOT the place for human children. You are going to have Humans jealous of the ones that got to keep their powers. Your going to have mutants that are jealous they weren't made normal. Both cases result in injured humans. They really don't have the manpower to watch them. They are still in Stage one of a crisis, and things will get better later with the Jubiliee's when things calm down.

PLUS the world hates Mutants. NOT humans. They should have been safe out in the real world. THAT was a miscalculation, but humans should have been able to blend in better and been safer out there.
Well, my Scott/Emma thing is mostly a straw man, anyways. Lets get down to the mansion:

Yeah, you want to take a poll of everybody, but then you honestly do not want to be a big sitting target. All someone has to do is bomb the building and wipe out all of Homo Sapien Superior.

your saying it's a powder keg WITH the humans in the mansion? Isn't the plot of 198 that the mutants are fighting tribally for dominance or something? They're over crowded. This is a situation ready to explode.

As far as getting rid of the Human kids, I agree. But what about Dani Moonstar, or Charles Xavier? What if the people who lost their powers where Nightcrawler, Wolverine or Emma? Would scott kick them out too?

-They are sitting ducks in that mansion. This is a bad tactical plan. Go underground. Send a key X-man with small groups of suvivors and send the teams to hidden locations: Savage Land, The Moon, Monster Island, Magik's realm, places people can't/won't find them.

[Jellobay]

I haven't asked you to change your opinions or to stop having them, but I have asked you to support them, and you can't or won't.

Dude I have, but every time I say this how I see this conversation or act, you say not that is not how it is not at all. You can't accept that I see it differently than you. I know you see it differently then me, but you can't just bring yourself to do that.
Heaven forbid you might be wrong or there might be a different way of looking at things than your own.
It must be nice to know your always right. ;)

[unkiedev]

Every Leader has their ups and downs. You can't point out one down and say because Storm wasn't a good enough leader the Morlock got killed. But you can point out and say when they (Storm and Cyclops) are on the same team who is the leader. Its not Storm. If Storm was a better leader then him it would be. You can also say that when Cap wasn't around and the heroes of the world needed a leader that it was Cyclops. Which tells me that the Marvel U they think Cyclops is second only to Cap.
IF you are talking about House of M then I have a different take: It was an X-man storyline involving the Avengers. The main characters where Mutants. Cyclops and Emma emerged as the leaders with Luke cage and Wolvie as support. These people decided not to involve an aged Captain America. I didn't agree with their choice on that, but whatever.

It is a bit glib to state the "Marvel Universe" think's Cyclops is the second best leader after Cap. In house of M Reed was dead, Thor was gone, half the Marvel universe was changed...did they even bother to tell Storm about what happened? I can't remember.

[unkiedev]

Dude I have, but every time I say this how I see this conversation or act, you say not that is not how it is not at all. You can't accept that I see it differently than you. I know you see it differently then me, but you can't just bring yourself to do that.
Heaven forbid you might be wrong or there might be a different way of looking at things than your own.
It must be nice to know your always right. ;)
Jello- I really think you defend your arguments but do not give others credit for valid points...and you keep returning to your fantasy that storm is "Planning her wedding" or taking a country club holiday out in Wakanda.

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

This thread isn't dead yet???


Jello, stop all right. Just let it pass peacefully and stop doing that zombie voodoo.

[Jellobay]

This thread isn't dead yet???


Jello, stop all right. Just let it pass peacefully and stop doing that zombie voodoo.

Dude, I did. It was dead, but then one of you Storm voters decided to post and brag that Storm was ahead and declared her the winner. Then every one started posting again and now look at poll.

Blame that Storm voter man, blame that Storm voter. :evilsmile

[LordAllMighty]

Quote from the X-Axis review:

****ASTONISHING X-MEN #14 - Emma Frost psychoanalyses Scott for an issue. ...........Whedon does have some great ideas for Cyclops, who gets ripped apart in this issue. Emma's complaints about him are pretty much valid. Everyone else gets a properly inspiring leader like Captain America or Reed Richards, but the X-Men are stuck with Cyclops. He's a character who made reasonable sense when he was merely the field leader and Professor X was there to set the direction. But without him, poor Scott is just a competent, decent tactician who keeps the show on the road but has no big ideas of his own. He's an honest, hardworking middle manager.

Look back on his leadership skill, I find myself agreeing with this statement. Cyke has never been good at seeing the big picture. He is only good when he's following someone else goals

[Huzzah!]

Just wait until the next issue of New X-men comes out and another kid gets popped. Plus not only is he bringing in killers to the x-men, and a traitor/drugdealer...but apparently he is sleeping with one as well.

Aces Slim

Aces

[Red Lotus]

IF you are talking about House of M then I have a different take: It was an X-man storyline involving the Avengers. The main characters where Mutants. Cyclops and Emma emerged as the leaders with Luke cage and Wolvie as support. These people decided not to involve an aged Captain America. I didn't agree with their choice on that, but whatever.

It is a bit glib to state the "Marvel Universe" think's Cyclops is the second best leader after Cap. In house of M Reed was dead, Thor was gone, half the Marvel universe was changed...did they even bother to tell Storm about what happened? I can't remember.


Glib? Why do I feel like Matt Lauer. :eek:

I look at it different. It was an event that started in Avenger with two of them being behind it. Yeah those two were mutans but still this was a spinoff from what happen too them.

Has Thor ever been a guy who was thought of as a leader? I'm not counting him in asgard I guess he is there but on Earth. Not really.

Read Richard you might have a point.

The Cap thing I can understand the he cant help us fight but you would think that they would want his mind. But why they didn't I have know clue.

No they didnt tell Storm. But again if they thought she was a better leader then why wouldn't they wake her up and let her lead.

Also read Secert War From the Files of Nick Fury. It almost sounds like Fury was thinking about having Scott lead his Secert War.

[Jellobay]

No they didnt tell Storm. But again if they thought she was a better leader then why wouldn't wake her up and let her lead.


Hmmmmm ... why is that? ;)

[Huzzah!]

Well Storm might have looked at it practically rather than just changing it back for the sake of.

House of M world seemed to have been moving along pretty good.

Plus Cyclops is a wiener who follows, you dont wake up someone who might potentially schism the effort

[Deus ex Chris]

Dude I have, but every time I say this how I see this conversation or act, you say not that is not how it is not at all. You can't accept that I see it differently than you. I know you see it differently then me, but you can't just bring yourself to do that.
Heaven forbid you might be wrong or there might be a different way of looking at things than your own.
It must be nice to know your always right. ;)
It has nothing to do with wanting to be right. It's about you supporting your arguments which you can't do. You point to instances, and then you twist them, and then when I call you out on it, you say I'm just unwilling to accept someone else's opinion, when in fact, I just want you to support yours. This being a discussion board, I don't think that's too much to ask. If you don't like people shooting down your claims, then back them up. It's that simple.

[Brian M.]

Cyclops = Friend To All

Storm = Eats Babies

[unkiedev]

Glib? Why do I feel like Matt Lauer. :eek:

Also read Secert War From the Files of Nick Fury. It almost sounds like Fury was thinking about having Scott lead his Secert War.
yeah...I have to read Secret Wars. I've been waiting for it to come out in soft cover.

Matt Lauer:p

-Bendis is big on Cyc, me'thinks. I just believe there are people EVERYBODY would follow (Nick Fury, good example, Steven Strange) BEFORE CYC. I don't think the oppinion in the Marvel U. is Cyc is #2 on the leader tip.

[Huzzah!]

She's only able to eat those babies because Cyclops stuck them on a bus to be fried

And hey, she's at least using the kids and realizes they are still resources

[Deus ex Chris]

Cyclops = Friend To All

Storm = Eats Babies

lol

These posts of yours are the best thing about this thread. Just thought you should know. ;)

[unkiedev]

Dude, I did. It was dead, but then one of you Storm voters decided to post and brag that Storm was ahead and declared her the winner. Then every one started posting again and now look at poll.

Blame that Storm voter man, blame that Storm voter. :evilsmile
and then there is this little gem:
Brian can you please close this poll why Cyclops is in the lead.

Thank you. :)
Jellobaby = slippery fellow....who doesn't respond to any of my arguments.

[Brian M.]

lol

These posts of yours are the best thing about this thread. Just thought you should know. ;)

I just figured we've talked about this to death. I've made all the points I can think of making w/o running circles around the arguement. We all have. In the end it comes down to the writer who dictates who will lead and how a character will react. It was a writer who made Scott leave his wife and kid, it was a writer who killed the Morlocks and it's a writer who is making Storm marry Black Kitty.

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

Cyclops = Friend To All

Storm = Eats Babies



Friend to all...Or just to Phoenix wanna be blondes with bad makeup and duct tape fashion designers.....I think the latter.

[Brian M.]

Friend to all...Or just to Phoenix wanna be blondes with bad makeup and duct tape fashion designers.....I think the latter.

Marvel = Quality stories w/ great artists

DC = Nazi Propaganda

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

Marvel = Quality stories w/ great artists

DC = Nazi Propaganda


Marvel= the equivalent of a Sci Fi channel made for tv movie

[Jellobay]

It has nothing to do with wanting to be right. It's about you supporting your arguments which you can't do. You point to instances, and then you twist them, and then when I call you out on it, you say I'm just unwilling to accept someone else's opinion, when in fact, I just want you to support yours. This being a discussion board, I don't think that's too much to ask. If you don't like people shooting down your claims, then back them up. It's that simple.

No, you are worng. I say that Storm is not doing what is important. I say to back this up that every body including her own team is where they are most needed. That is at the mansion.
Then you come up with maybe they don't know.
I ask you how can they not know since she has spoke with Wolverine and Bishop.
You are so in love with Storm that you can admit that maybe, just maybe her judgement is impaired and she is not in the place she is most need.
You tell me she is doing important work and is where she is most need, but you don't back that up. You say you back that up, by saying Bishop said she is most need there. But Magneto also said he was doing what is best for mutant kind and believed that too. Do you agree with him also? Do you agree with every thing in print?
Why are you so blind to this?
We disagree and see the events differently. It is not that big of a deal, your world will not cumble if someone does not see things the way you do.
Its okay you will get through this.

[Jellobay]

Marvel= the equivalent of a Sci Fi channel made for tv movie

I like the Sci Fi channel and some of those movies aren't half bad.

DC = disturbed collectors

[unkiedev]

I just figured we've talked about this to death. I've made all the points I can think of making w/o running circles around the arguement. We all have. In the end it comes down to the writer who dictates who will lead and how a character will react. It was a writer who made Scott leave his wife and kid, it was a writer who killed the Morlocks and it's a writer who is making Storm marry Black Kitty.
Amen. or rather, A-X-Men.

[Deus ex Chris]

No, you are worng. I say that Storm is not doing what is important. I say to back this up that every body including her own team is where they are most needed. That is at the mansion.
Then you come up with maybe they don't know.
I ask you how can they not know since she has spoke with Wolverine and Bishop.
You are so in love with Storm that you can admit that maybe, just maybe her judgement is impaired and she is not in the place she is most need.
You tell me she is doing important work and is where she is most need, but you don't back that up. You say you back that up, by saying Bishop said she is most need there. But Magneto also said he was doing what is best for mutant kind and believed that too. Do you agree with him also? Do you agree with every thing in print?
Why are you so blind to this?
We disagree and see the events differently. It is not that big of a deal, your world will not cumble if someone does not see things the way you do.
Its okay you will get through this.
Everything you've just accused me of in this post I have addressed, but you continute to dismiss eveything anyone else says. You're a troll, and I'm done with you. Go ahead and put me on ignore because I'll be doing the same to you.

[Jellobay]

and then there is this little gem:

Jellobaby = slippery fellow....who doesn't respond to any of my arguments.

I know you love me and this is why I smile. :)

[unkiedev]

I know you love me and this is why I smile. :)
well, at least it's an acknowledgement :rolleyes:

[UNDGirl83]

Don't be mean Wolf. He's fragile

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

Don't be mean Wolf. He's fragile


Then break him already. Christ, woman.....

[Jellobay]

Everything you've just accused me of in this post I have addressed, but you continute to dismiss eveything anyone else says. You're a troll, and I'm done with you. Go ahead and put me on ignore because I'll be doing the same to you.

You just proved my point Chris. I respect what you believe, but you can't deal with some one seeing things different from you.

So you call me a troll and put me on ignore. Now your world is safe again and you live with the people who only agree with you.

I would never put you on ignore, if I did that to every one that had different opinion than me, I would be reading a screen with only my posts.

...

** shiver ** scary though huh? :)

[Red Lotus]

yeah...I have to read Secret Wars. I've been waiting for it to come out in soft cover.

Matt Lauer:p

-Bendis is big on Cyc, me'thinks. I just believe there are people EVERYBODY would follow (Nick Fury, good example, Steven Strange) BEFORE CYC. I don't think the oppinion in the Marvel U. is Cyc is #2 on the leader tip.

In House of M Strange followed Cyc. The Fury thing is a little tough because Cap will follow Fury orders.

But these people wouldn't pick Storm over Cyc.

Marvel has always put Storm behind Cyclops when it came X-men leaders.

[Jellobay]

well, at least it's an acknowledgement :rolleyes:

:)

You see I like that. You think I am full of shit and that is fine. You are not in a small select group. But at least you are okay with the differences. :)

[Huzzah!]

Marvel= the equivalent of a Sci Fi channel made for tv movie

DC= snuff film



No, you are worng. I say that Storm is not doing what is important. I say to back this up that every body including her own team is where they are most needed. That is at the mansion.
Then you come up with maybe they don't know.
I ask you how can they not know since she has spoke with Wolverine and Bishop.

If Cyclops is such a good leader why is storm needed there? Cant he handle it?

Hey im with you, storm does need to be at the mansion, if only to keep Cyclops from killing more kids, but she probably doesnt know the scope or listerine of his colossal f-ups

Every time you say Storm needs to be at the mansion i hear = Cyclops is screwing up and needs to be bailed out.

And lets say the Africa situation isnt as important as the mutant for sake of arguement.

Its still demonstratively more important than running away because a girl kissed you, as Cyclops has done. She could be their to buy a zebra plush doll and it would be a more important reason than that one.

Since this isnt a universal who's better, but rather a comparrison of Storm/Cyclops listing something bad one has done, but not thinking about how much worse the other has done in a comperable manner isnt a good way to logically come up with a conclusion.

Plus Cyclops killed JFK. X-men first started in 1963... helloooooo. He was on the run from John Q. Law

Plus...Jack Ruby killed Lee oswald, and Cyclops who was created by Stan LEE has to wear a RUBY visor.

See between the lines man!

[Kal]

You all know that Jellobay is joking, right?

[unkiedev]

:)

You see I like that. You think I am full of shit and that is fine. You are not in a small select group. But at least you are okay with the differences. :)
I never said you're full of sh*t. I said you defend your position by ignoring valid arguments from the opposition.

Go back over the posts. I've admitted Scott is a good combat leader. I just don't think he has vision. He's a great soldier, but not a leader.

[R Krippler]

Cyclops, just because he never made the Mohawk mistake.

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

DC= snuff film



Snuff films are HOT!:p

[unkiedev]

Cyclops, just because he never made the Mohawk mistake.
it was the eighties. Mohawks were awesome!

I think Storm BECAUSE of Mohawk!:p

[unkiedev]

But these people wouldn't pick Storm over Cyc.

Marvel has always put Storm behind Cyclops when it came X-men leaders.
Well, you've got me here as well. I still don't think most folks would follow Cyc if there were better options, but I do agree most random Marvel U folks would follow Cyc before Storm.

I still think this is a problem of perception. Cyc is with the team more, he comes off more as a leader. Storm needs a better press agent...and writer.

[Brian M.]

Cyclops = All-American Boy

Storm = Fat, Ugly Girl at strip club screaming," DANCE...ANYBODY WANT A DANCE!!!"

[Jellobay]

If Cyclops is such a good leader why is storm needed there? Cant he handle it?

Dude I never said she was not powerful. Storm kiss major butt. :)

[Red Lotus]

I've admitted Scott is a good combat leader. I just don't think he has vision. He's a great soldier, but not a leader.

When every one from From Fury to Xavier to Wolverine say how Scott is a born leader. But his not a leader.

Again Storm is a great leader. Second in the X-Men only to Scott.

[Jellobay]

You all know that Jellobay is joking, right?

Chris thinks I am serious when I say Storm is tasting cakes trying to decide if the butter cream frosting is the way to go.

He put me on ignore you know? :)

[Jellobay]

Cyclops, just because he never made the Mohawk mistake.

'nuff said.

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

UTV = All-American Boy Scout leader

UTV's first time= Fat, Ugly Girl at strip club screaming," DANCE...ANYBODY WANT A DANCE!!!"


That's a much better fit

[Huzzah!]

they mean leader in a fuzzy tactical way.

Im sure 42 sets of parents might disagree with his adminstration policies.


And if storm is needed, and Cyclops cant get her to come...

well thats just another flaw in his leadership


and id say sexual prowess

[Gaveedra 6]

it was the eighties. Mohawks were awesome!

I think Storm BECAUSE of Mohawk!:p
Yeah, the X-men followed Storm for years when her only superpower was the mohawk. That says alot.

If Scott lost his powers he'd probably crumble into an insecure mess. I don't think I'd want him leading me into combat against the Marrauders without optic beams.

Storm had COMMAND, baby!

[Red Lotus]

Well, you've got me here as well. I still don't think most folks would follow Cyc if there were better options, but I do agree most random Marvel U folks would follow Cyc before Storm.

I still think this is a problem of perception. Cyc is with the team more, he comes off more as a leader. Storm needs a better press agent...and writer.


I agree with you here. But I also think that you can take Storm and put her on the Avengers or the Fantastic Four as a just another team member and she would be great. The only thing Cyclops can do is lead with out that he lose a lot of the things that make him great.

[R Krippler]

In the Cyclops Icon mini there was a scene were he was in the Danger room with all of the other X-Men, and he was doing a inner dialouge, and he basiclly admitted that he was pretty average, and that a good leader surrounds himself with people that are better than him. This was highly Paraphrased but it really marked him as the leader of the X-Men for me.

[unkiedev]

Yeah, the X-men followed Storm for years when her only superpower was the mohawk. That says alot.

If Scott lost his powers he'd probably crumble into an insecure mess. I don't think I'd want him leading me into combat against the Marrauders without optic beams.

Storm had COMMAND, baby!
A great new and compelling argument for Storm Supporters. Thank you, Gaveedra 6. How about that? Storm without Powers kicked ass as an X-man leader, yet Scott's decision is all Non Powered Mutants have to stay clear of his sand-box. Scott Drools, Storm Rules!
I agree with you here. But I also think that you can take Storm and put her on the Avengers or the Fantastic Four as a just another team member and she would be great. The only thing Cyclops can do is lead with out that he lose a lot of the things that make him great.
I would LOVE to see Storm on the New Avengers. It kinda' sticks in my craw she's not on the team. You are absolutely right, however, that Cyc's identity is wrapped up around being the X-leader. Without it he'd have nothing.

And for Jello, R. Krippler and every other Scott lover: Scott was born to be the leader of the X-men, or rather Stan Lee and Jack Kirby designed the character to ultimately take command. That doesn't mean he is:

A) the best man for the job.

or

B) Better than Storm.

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

Scott Drools, Storm Rules!





How very appropriate on so many levels

[Gaveedra 6]

Originally Posted by unkiedev:
Scott Drools, Storm Rules!
How very appropriate on so many levels
Yeah, as of next month, that's 100% accurate! Storm, African queen, Cyclops, lobotomized drooling mess.

[Huzzah!]

Scott Drools because he hit his head on that rock so many years ago and lost control of his powers.

Sheesh, make fun of a guy in a wheel chair

[unkiedev]

Originally Posted by unkiedev:
Scott Drools, Storm Rules!

Yeah, as of next month, that's 100% accurate! Storm, African queen, Cyclops, lobotomized drooling mess.
Is this a spoilers thing? I have no idea what you fellows are talking about. I get the Storm Rules part. What happens to Cyc?

I mean, I love storm and everything but I would never actually READ an X-book. Gawd. I have my standards. ;)

[Red Lotus]

Yeah, the X-men followed Storm for years when her only superpower was the mohawk. That says alot.

If Scott lost his powers he'd probably crumble into an insecure mess. I don't think I'd want him leading me into combat against the Marrauders without optic beams.

Storm had COMMAND, baby!

Find uncanny X-men 150 where Cyclops with out powers told the team they didn't need their powers to beat Magneto..

Check out X-men The Twelve where a Powerless Cyclops gives up his life to save Nate Gray.

So wait he has no powers but he is willing to take on the two biggest X-foes.

[The Storm]

Storm heralds just as much confidence.

[R Krippler]

A great new and compelling argument for Storm Supporters. Thank you, Gaveedra 6. How about that? Storm without Powers kicked ass as an X-man leader, yet Scott's decision is all Non Powered Mutants have to stay clear of his sand-box. Scott Drools, Storm Rules!

I would LOVE to see Storm on the New Avengers. It kinda' sticks in my craw she's not on the team. You are absolutely right, however, that Cyc's identity is wrapped up around being the X-leader. Without it he'd have nothing.

And for Jello, R. Krippler and every other Scott lover: Scott was born to be the leader of the X-men, or rather Stan Lee and Jack Kirby designed the character to ultimately take command. That doesn't mean he is:

A) the best man for the job.

or

B) Better than Storm.
1. I am not a Cyclops lover I just believe that he leads better than Storm
B. He is not closterphibic.

[unkiedev]

Find uncanny X-men 150 where Cyclops with out powers told the team they didn't need their powers to beat Magneto..

Check out X-men The Twelve where a Powerless Cyclops gives up his life to save Nate Gray.

So wait he has no powers but he is willing to take on the two biggest X-foes.
Then why has he decided to chuck out every de-powered mutant to fend for themselves?
1. I am not a Cyclops lover I just believe that he leads better than Storm
B. He is not closterphibic.
A) Alright, sorry.
B) True, but he is a dork.

[R Krippler]

Then why has he decided to chuck out every de-powered mutant to fend for themselves?

Just look at what happed in New X-men, it is just not safe for people who can't defend themselves to be at the mansion. Most mutants are concentrated at the mansion so if someone attacks the mutants can protect themselves but the humans are left defenseless, and even then the mutants still have a chance of dying. The two situations are too different to compare.

[Zombienorthstar]

Just look at what happed in New X-men, it is just not safe for people who can't defend themselves to be at the mansion. Most mutants are concentrated at the mansion so if someone attacks the mutants can protect themselves but the humans are left defenseless, and even then the mutants still have a chance of dying. The two situations are too different to compare.


Not every mutant is a living weapon to cite but a few...

A) A woman who can change the colour of flowers
B) A man whos only power was accelerated ageing.
C) Jazz whos only power was to be blue.

The 'they can protect themselves' arguement is stupid. The government want to keep tabs on them is all

[R Krippler]

Not every mutant is a living weapon to cite but a few...

A) A woman who can change the colour of flowers
B) A man whos only power was accelerated ageing.
C) Jazz whos only power was to be blue.

The 'they can protect themselves' arguement is stupid. The government want to keep tabs on them is all
Okay going with your arguement, that there are mutant who are not living weapons. There are fewer of them than there would be humans. So would it be easier to protect 40-70 mutants who have a non-lethal mutation, or 200-250 people who can't protect themselves. To me it is simple logic that a smaller number of people is easier to protect.

[Huzzah!]

plus, when you are surrounded by a super teram it doesnt matter if you can protect yourself


When you are pushed away from the super team, you better be able to

and considering they are all humans.........

dead new mutants


Cyclops is basically a disciplined Wolverine, good in a fight, but pretty useless elsewhere.

Especailly in the bedroom. Thats why he has psychic affairs

[phantom1592]

If Scott lost his powers he'd probably crumble into an insecure mess. I don't think I'd want him leading me into combat against the Marrauders without optic beams.



Hmmm.... Interesting Idea. Not sure I agree though. Most of Scotts whining over the years has been the whole "I have the power to level mountains, but I can't look anyone in the eye" angst. If had control, or lost his powers, I think it would give him a new level of confidence. I believe that at most times, at least "PART" of his concentration is worrying about his powers. If he was free of that and could concentrate fully at the job.....

It would be interesting to see.

[phantom1592]

Especailly in the bedroom. Thats why he has psychic affairs



:rolleyes: Low Blow man.... Low blow.

I would counter that if he was that bad, he wouldn't have all the X-chicks lined up around the block :cool:

[Huzzah!]

Well emma is doing it to infiltrate the X-men. Psylocke did it because Kwannon was messing with her mind.

Jeans been dating him since she was a kid, she doesnt realize how terrible he is

[phantom1592]

Well emma is doing it to infiltrate the X-men. Psylocke did it because Kwannon was messing with her mind.

Jeans been dating him since she was a kid, she doesnt realize how terrible he is


Regardless of the reasons, You don't see wolverine leading the X-babes all over the mansion ;)

[Zombienorthstar]

Well emma is doing it to infiltrate the X-men. Psylocke did it because Kwannon was messing with her mind.

Jeans been dating him since she was a kid, she doesnt realize how terrible he is


Yeah you find that...you talk to this really great girl and you meet her dick of a boyfirend and wonder why until she mentions that famous line 'weve been together since school' its like they just get comfortable.

[Mikl C]

the X-men followed Storm for years when her only superpower was the mohawk. That says alot.

that's the funniest thing i've heard in.. ever.
still cyclops though.

[Huzzah!]

Yeah you find that...you talk to this really great girl and you meet her dick of a boyfirend and wonder why until she mentions that famous line 'weve been together since school' its like they just get comfortable.

All high school relationships are rubbish. If they are still with a high school boyfriend they dont realize how bad it is

[hybridspecies]

Cyclops doesn't exaxctly have a vast aray of super powers. Storm on the other hand, has the vast element at her will. The better mutant is clear.

[xakko]

All high school relationships are rubbish. If they are still with a high school boyfriend they dont realize how bad it is
gee, i'll have to tell that to my in-laws, the happiest couple i've ever seen. they don't fight, they genuinely enjoy each other's company, they work well together, and they produced the loveliest daughter i've ever met.

please don't portray your own experience as a universal law.

[xmanson]

Well, looking at the picture now Cyclops is pretty incompetent - I mean, looak at all the death at NXM and the Sentinel thing.

Can't wait for Storm to come back and kick his sorry ass out.

If not for thismarriage shit, things would be different around the institute.

[Kal]

Hmm I wonder who bumped this thread.....

[Sentinel K]

Cronin can close it now.

Cyclops won.

[Mr. Jip]

gee, i'll have to tell that to my in-laws, the happiest couple i've ever seen. they don't fight, they genuinely enjoy each other's company, they work well together, and they produced the loveliest daughter i've ever met.

Well Cyclops doesn't have to worry about his in-laws.
They're all DEAD.

[Jellobay]

Cronin, looks like Cyclops made it to 100 first, so if you want to close it now, feel free. :)

[Huzzah!]

nah..

you have to count the absentee ballots

[Hi-Fi]

Cronin, looks like Cyclops made it to 100 first, so if you want to close it now, feel free. :)

Well, you can thank the diferent accounts you and your friends created to make sure he'd win.:)















:evilsmile

[Huzzah!]

also...this thread is misleading.


Its not who is the better leader, but who do you prefer..and from the first post it seems more like personality wise.

I think a new thread/recount is needed

[Jellobay]

Well, you can thank the diferent accounts you and your friends created to make sure he'd win.:)

:evilsmile

You might want to check out some of those storm votes, like Scarlett Storm and Stormfan1. Fishy if you ask me. :)

[Jellobay]

also...this thread is misleading.


Its not who is the better leader, but who do you prefer..and from the first post it seems more like personality wise.

I think a new thread/recount is needed


If you read the first post, he put in there Storm appreciation thread. So the fact the Cyclops won just proves he is the better leader more. ;)

[Hi-Fi]

You might want to check out some of those storm votes, like Scarlett Storm and Stormfan1. Fishy if you ask me. :)

You can aso check Akolonus, for example, who has only - Oh My- 4 posts! :)

[Sentinel K]

You can aso check Akolonus, for example, who has only - Oh My- 4 posts! :)

He's posted in 4 different threads though.

Those 2 that jello mentioned have both only posted ONCE.

IN THIS THREAD!!!

They seem much more likely to be fake posters.

[Jellobay]

He's posted in 4 different threads though.

Those 2 that jello mentioned have both only posted ONCE.

IN THIS THREAD!!!

They seem much more likely to be fake posters.


One, post, one vote and then poof they were gone.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. ;)

[Brian M.]

Cyclops = Savior of Poor and Sick.

Storm = Broke the Leeves in New Orleans.

[Huzzah!]

If you read the first post, he put in there Storm appreciation thread. So the fact the Cyclops won just proves he is the better leader more. ;)

nah it doesnt. People just are voting for him because they like him better....

they are listening to the issues

[Huzzah!]

Cyclops = Savior of Poor and Sick.

Storm = Broke the Leeves in New Orleans.

Cyclops doesnt care about black people, especially black mutants. Dead Tag body spray. Left Shola on genosha. Etc.


or really any people

He only cares about Emma Frosts cubic zirconias

Get it?

[Brian M.]

Cyclops doesnt care about black people, especially black mutants. Dead Tag body spray. Left Shola on genosha. Etc.


or really any people

He only cares about Emma Frosts cubic zirconias

Get it?

LOL I get it.

Cyclops is friend to all.

Storm is racists to black people.

[Jellobay]

LOL I get it.

Cyclops is friend to all.

Storm is racists to black people.

She makes them worship her or she won't water their crops.

At least that is what I heard. ;)

[Hi-Fi]

He's posted in 4 different threads though.

Those 2 that jello mentioned have both only posted ONCE.

IN THIS THREAD!!!

They seem much more likely to be fake posters.

Can you prove it? Thought so.

[Sentinel K]

Can you prove it? Thought so.

Can you? Thought not.


Punk-ass bitch.

[Brian M.]

Storm is the reason Sentinal K can't find a woman. Storm's lesbian nature is luring all them to her.

Cyclops = Best Wing Man

[Hi-Fi]

Can you? Thought not.


Punk-ass bitch.

Then STFU already.

[Jellobay]

Can you? Thought not.


Punk-ass bitch.


That made me smile. :)

[Huzzah!]

Cyclops got Goose killed.

Like all the kids

Just because of posh spice

[Brian M.]

Cyclops got Goose killed.

Like all the kids

Just because of posh spice

Storm = Reason Spice Girls broke up.

[Trulyures]

Storm = Reason Spice Girls broke up.
lol... that's funny

[Huzzah!]

Cyclops= guy who put the spice girls together

[Brian M.]

Cyclops= guy who put the spice girls together


Storm = Responsible for ALL BOY BANDS.

[Jellobay]

Storm = Responsible for ALL BOY BANDS.

Man Storm is just pure evil then.

[Sentinel K]

Man Storm is just pure evil then.

She shot JFK AND John Lennon too.


Bitch.

[Huzzah!]

Cyclops = responsible for the hindenburg

storm= the humanity

[Jellobay]

She shot JFK AND John Lennon too.


Bitch.

I heard Storm was responsible for static cling and "New Coke".

[Huzzah!]

Cyclops is responsible for the stain on Monica Lewinskies dress

[Sentinel K]

I heard Storm was responsible for static cling and "New Coke".

It wasn't an iceberg that sank the Titanic.

[Huzzah!]

Cyclops shot JR

[Jellobay]

It wasn't an iceberg that sank the Titanic.

LOL :)

DC comics ... all Storm's fault.

[Jellobay]

Cyclops shot JR


Thats a good thing dude. :)

[Huzzah!]

Cyclops got Liefield his first penciling job

[Jellobay]

Storm got Austin his X-men run.

[Huzzah!]

Cyclops had all those useless pockets on his uniform and now dresses like a condom

[Jellobay]

Cyclops had all those useless pockets on his uniform and now dresses like a condom

Have you seen Storm's wedding dress?

[Brian M.]

Cyclops got Liefield his first penciling job

OK THAT'S IT. YOU AND ME OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW!! I'M KICKING YOUR ASS FOR THAT ONE!!!

Storm wanted to have Hudlin write her.

[Brian Cronin]

102-92.

-Brian