Which characters really have a shot at making the 2nd Avengers Team?

[Haunt]

i know that we all have our implausible Avengers lineups. but who do you really see making the 'B-Squad?' Reed mentioned something about a team forming in Chicago, iirc. we can safely assume that the team won't be significantly larger or smaller than Bendis' current team. but that's basically all that we have to go on.


New Avengers Team 1
1. Iron Man
2. Captain America
3. Spiderwoman
4. Luke Cage
5. Sentry
6. Ronin
7. Spiderman
8. Wolverine
[above lineup could be drastically-altered by Civil War, of course]

New Avengers Team 2
1. ?
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?



Generic List of Marvel Characters not Accounted For (i realize that i missed more than a few ex-Avengers): i highlighted a few who i consider to be likely candidates for the team.

Justice
Firestar
Yellowjacket
Wasp
Quasar
Human Torch
Black Panther
Storm
Nova
Hulk
Ms Marvel
Wonderman
Hercules
Clint Barton
Nighthawk
Invisible Woman
Mr Fantastic
Thing
Hellcat
Tigra
Beast
She-Hulk
Black Knight
Black Widow
Ant-Man
Moon Knight
Lionheart
Paladdin
Archangel
Living Lightning
Starfox
Iron Fist
Falcon

[Leebenhouse]

well If IM is anti registration, and Cap is pro registration...

And they've both een leaders of their respective coastal teams...

One would be a rogue Avengers, likely led/funded by IM. This group would probably work like the New Avengers. More private heroes, like Spider-Man would go with this group.

The other, led by Cap, would be sponsored by the government. This group would be more like the old Avengers. People like Cage, with a public criminal record, Wolverine, who SHEILD probably has a large dossier on, and more open heroes would go with this group.

Justice, Pym, Wasp, Quasar would likely go with Cap.

Nova, Hercules, Nighthawk, Hellcat, Lionheart, Moon Knight, Falcon, would be Iron Man's Avengers.

But as Millar is writing this, and I dont know if his Cap would be the same as the Ultimate Cap he created. That really makes it hard to speculate.

[Haunt]

well If IM is anti registration, and Cap is pro registration...

And they've both een leaders of their respective coastal teams...

One would be a rogue Avengers, likely led/funded by IM. This group would probably work like the New Avengers. More private heroes, like Spider-Man would go with this group.

The other, led by Cap, would be sponsored by the government. This group would be more like the old Avengers. People like Cage, with a public criminal record, Wolverine, who SHEILD probably has a large dossier on, and more open heroes would go with this group.

Justice, Pym, Wasp, Quasar would likely go with Cap.

Nova, Hercules, Nighthawk, Hellcat, Lionheart, Moon Knight, Falcon, would be Iron Man's Avengers.

But as Millar is writing this, and I dont know if his Cap would be the same as the Ultimate Cap he created. That really makes it hard to speculate.


i don't know if this is a spoiler or not but Tony is pro-registration (ends up revealing his own identity). and who knows where Pym's going to fall in this? he was shown working with Gyrich and SHIELD. but that doesn't mean he won't turn on them. but i'm thinking a pro-registration team...

1. Iron Man
2. Spiderman (initially)
3. Sentry (he doesn't seem the rebellious sort)
4. Spiderwoman (SHIELD affiliations)
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?


i definately think Luke would be for protecting the rights of the heroes to protect their own identities, for some reason. he just seemed kind of counter-culture during HoM. Ronin would probably want her identity protected, so she'd be against Tony's group. that might also be the reason that Bendis couldn't go ahead and make she and Iron Man an item.

[Leebenhouse]

I don't mean to spoil you, but, if you read the beginning pages of Amazing Spidey 530, he is actually quite anti-registration.

But they might still twist this around, I'm just calling it as it lies.

Reason being that Millar has written Ultimate Cap as a real right-winger, while traditional Cap's been apolitical/more liberal.

On the other hand, Tony Stark is a former SecDef, but is seen as being anti-registration since he re-hid his identity, and in the Amazing Spider-Man issue.

[Babylon23]

I wouldn't be surprised if the new Kirkman/Hester Ant-Man makes it into a second Avengers team. He has the Pym legacy to carry, and this might add to the character's profile.

Otherwise, Hawkeye maybe. Perhaps Thor, if he ever actually returns. I'd like to see She-Hulk return to the Avengers.

[Haunt]

I wouldn't be surprised if the new Kirkman/Hester Ant-Man makes it into a second Avengers team. He has the Pym legacy to carry, and this might add to the character's profile.

Otherwise, Hawkeye maybe. Perhaps Thor, if he ever actually returns. I'd like to see She-Hulk return to the Avengers.


interviews have purposedly refered to 'Hawkeye' only by 'Clint Barton.' so, if he does return, it will probably be as himself or in a new guise. and i don't think the new Ant-Man is the much to carry a legacy. he sounds like a bit of a jerk.

[Tony Starkz]

It would be cool to see Namor as an Avenger again.Same with Hercules.

Also:

Black Knight
Captain Marvel (doubt it since she's in Nextwave)
Thor(when he comes back)
Hank Pym

[Troy Wall]

Surely Thor will make the line-up when he arrives back on the scene...

[Kevinroc]

With Thor's return soon and Spidey switching to Cap's side, we'll probably see them all on Cap's team.

Cap's Team:

1: Captain America
2: Thor
3: Spider-Man

The others are anyone's guess at this moment.

Iron Man's Team:

1: Iron Man
2: Sentry
3: Ares (he's supposed to join some team)
4: Wolverine

I'm not sure where Luke Cage, Spider-Woman and Ronin end up. I'll guess that Ronin ends up on IM's team, but that's a maybe.

[Kal]

New Avengers Team 2
1. Ms. Marvel
2. Nova
3. Storm
4. Hulk
5. Invisible Woman
6. Black Panther(sigh.....since his wife is on the team we might as well throw him in lol)
7. Beast
8. Firestar or Falcon or Hellcat

[Haunt]

New Avengers Team 2
1. Ms. Marvel
2. Nova
3. Storm
4. Hulk
5. Invisible Woman
6. Black Panther(sigh.....since his wife is on the team we might as well throw him in lol)
7. Beast
8. Firestar or Falcon or Hellcat

for some reason i can't picture the Ms Marvel asking the Hulk to join the team or him accepting. :')

[Mister Mets]

I see Civil War leading to a division between Tony Stark, and Captain America, and one of the two leaving to form a new Avengers team.

I'm going to assume it's Captain America
A) because it will be the bigger shock.
B) it'll add prestige to the second Avengers team.
C) Tony Stark's company is based in New York. Captain America has no such ties to the city, and it would be appropriate to have him live in another city.

I see Ms Marvel joining the New Avengers because of...
A) her new book
B) her ties to Tony Stark (although should Tony join the Second Avengers, I believe she'll follow.)

The other members I see joining the Second Avengers....
Hawkeye- It makes sense for him to show solidarity with Cap, and join his Avengers. It'll raise the status of the second Avengers book, and give the character a chance to shine, something he hasn't done post- House of M.
Antman- Because he's getting a new book by decent creators (Kirkman, Hester) and he might be overshadowed by the New Avengers. He also has long-lasting ties to Captain America.
Wasp- Where Henry Pym goes she'll follow, although it would create an interesting tension, if they're on two different teams.

Aside from that, it's going to be all about the writer's preferences, so we could see anyone from Arana, and Gravity to the Original Human Torch, and John the Crusader (immortal Christian knight from the Lee/ Kirby Fantastic 4.)

[Capt USA]

Caps Team

Captain America
Ms Marvel
Wolverine
Spiderman
Thor
Hawkeye
Ant Man
Wonder Man

Iron Mans team
Iron Man
Spider Woman
Sentry
Black Knight
Wasp
Hank Pym
Ares

Only major problem I see is wolvie/spidey/cap all being in one book, it's possible that wolvie or spidey would join up with tony stark (wolvie is my guess) to keep an eye out. The Iron Man team I have severly out powers the caps team, maybe I should move wolvie to iron man, and put quasar on caps team(not sure he is around, or even war-machine if he is available)

[XPac]

If they end up breaking up the Avengers into 2 team, I'd simply remove Cap from the new Avengers line up, and keep them relatively intact otherwise.

So that would be:

Iron Man
Spider-Woman
Spider-Man
Wolverine
Sentry
Ronin
Luke Cage

For Cap, I'd like a return to a more traditional line up.

Captain America
Hawkeye
Wasp
Hank Pym
She-Hulk
Ms. Marvel
Wonderman

If Thor and Quicksilver become more available, I'd love to throw them in there somehow too.

[Haunt]

I see Civil War leading to a division between Tony Stark, and Captain America, and one of the two leaving to form a new Avengers team.

I'm going to assume it's Captain America
A) because it will be the bigger shock.
B) it'll add prestige to the second Avengers team.
C) Tony Stark's company is based in New York. Captain America has no such ties to the city, and it would be appropriate to have him live in another city.

I see Ms Marvel joining the New Avengers because of...
A) her new book
B) her ties to Tony Stark (although should Tony join the Second Avengers, I believe she'll follow.)

The other members I see joining the Second Avengers....
Hawkeye- It makes sense for him to show solidarity with Cap, and join his Avengers. It'll raise the status of the second Avengers book, and give the character a chance to shine, something he hasn't done post- House of M.
Antman- Because he's getting a new book by decent creators (Kirkman, Hester) and he might be overshadowed by the New Avengers. He also has long-lasting ties to Captain America.
Wasp- Where Henry Pym goes she'll follow, although it would create an interesting tension, if they're on two different teams.

Aside from that, it's going to be all about the writer's preferences, so we could see anyone from Arana, and Gravity to the Original Human Torch, and John the Crusader (immortal Christian knight from the Lee/ Kirby Fantastic 4.)

no Spiderman?! but, yeah, Ms Marvel will definately side with Tony. i think i've seen it in previews.

[Haunt]

Caps Team

Captain America
Ms Marvel
Wolverine
Spiderman
Thor
Hawkeye
Ant Man
Wonder Man

Iron Mans team
Iron Man
Spider Woman
Sentry
Black Knight
Wasp
Hank Pym
Ares

Only major problem I see is wolvie/spidey/cap all being in one book, it's possible that wolvie or spidey would join up with tony stark (wolvie is my guess) to keep an eye out. The Iron Man team I have severly out powers the caps team, maybe I should move wolvie to iron man, and put quasar on caps team(not sure he is around, or even war-machine if he is available)

you've probably come pretty close to how it will fall out. but keep in mind that Tony's siding with the Government (and Zemo) in this. he reveals his own identity (again) to set the example for other heroes. this will lead to Spiderman breaking away from his control. i think Ms Marvel is going to side with Tony 1) because he's a convincing guy 2) because she owes him for getting back on the team and 3) she's trying to improve her rep with the public. Thor would definately hang with Cap. their mutual respect is legendary. i have no idea on Wonderman but i'd like to think that he and Carol Danvers are going to become an item. Iredeemable Ant-Man i'd place on Iron Man's team because i couldn't see him being on a team with Spiderman (very similar costumes). he also doesn't seem to be all that noble, so i couldn't see him signing up for Cap's righteous brigade. Clint, if he returns, would side with Cap. Sentry could go either way. not sure if Ares would care about other side's point of view. he just likes to kill.

[Haunt]

If they end up breaking up the Avengers into 2 team, I'd simply remove Cap from the new Avengers line up, and keep them relatively intact otherwise.

So that would be:

Iron Man
Spider-Woman
Spider-Man
Wolverine
Sentry
Ronin
Luke Cage

For Cap, I'd like a return to a more traditional line up.

Captain America
Hawkeye
Wasp
Hank Pym
She-Hulk
Ms. Marvel
Wonderman

If Thor and Quicksilver become more available, I'd love to throw them in there somehow too.

don't count on Quicksilver being around as anything but an adversary. he's feeling very self-righteous at the moment. otherwise, really like your lineups. i wonder what Cage's motive for wanting people to register would be; maybe need to protect his family.

[ChildOfTheDarkholde]

I'd like to see She-Hulk return to the Avengers.

Ditto!!

That would be kickass!

[XPac]

don't count on Quicksilver being around as anything but an adversary. he's feeling very self-righteous at the moment. otherwise, really like your lineups. i wonder what Cage's motive for wanting people to register would be; maybe need to protect his family.

Yeah, I don't see Quicksilver joining anytime soon either.

As for Cage... he uses his actual name so he has no secret identity to protect. If he had one I could see him being anti-registration for the same reason a lot of DC characters freak out whenver their identities are found out. But for him, he's already accepted that risk being as he uses his name and wears no mask. Course, he chose to do that before he chose to have a family... but there's nothing he can do about that now.

I guess considering the deaths of children were a part of that catalyst to the whole Civil War thing, it's pretty easy to side with Tony as far as heroes registering themselves and being held accountable for their actions.

[Capt USA]

I don't see it as pro-registration anti-registration when it's all said and done. I fully expect an 'anti-registration' hero to end up on the side of pro-registration team because he doesn't have a choice.

Ms Marvel has stated that she wants to become "iconic" and nobody in the marvel universe is more iconic than cap, so I'm thinking she will side with him on this issue.

I'm also thinking that without ms marvel, caps side is pretty weak(until thor comes back) so he needed a couple of more powerful heroes on his side. I really don't think Quasar is going to come back but without him caps team seems to be really weak.

[unkiedev]

Nuts to civil war. An Avengers Team-B, as approved by the illuminati, would be:

Team Leader: Storm

1) Storm
2) Beta Ray Bill
3) She-Hulk
4) Dead Girl
5) Forge
6) Thing
7) Wonder Man
8) Ghost Rider

That's my team: High on weirdos.

[Haunt]

Nuts to civil war. An Avengers Team-B, as approved by the illuminati, would be:

Team Leader: Storm

1) Storm
2) Beta Ray Bill
3) She-Hulk
4) Dead Girl
5) Forge
6) Thing
7) Wonder Man
8) Ghost Rider

That's my team: High on weirdos.

and that's exactly while you'll never see this team. dream lineups aren't likely to happen because they don't take into account ongoing story plots. would this team be stationed in Wakanda? otherwise, it's going to get in the way of what's going on in Black Panther. why would Dead-Girl be on this team? Wonderman, the Thing, and Beta Ray Bill? how redundant is that? Forge will already be doing stuff over in the x-titles. and Ghost Rider, if he were going to go anywhere, would sign up for the Champions. just saying. :)

[unkiedev]

No, No, I absolutely hear you, Haunt. I did do some thinking about that, but then decided to have fun and throw together a "Dream Team" like you said...but heck, ain't that what Bendis did with his "New Avengers?" I was just "Bending it Like Bendis", i.e. being a genius :D

I figured, IF Chucky X was around he might recommend Storm. I figured Dead Girl ends up on the team because she is currently adventuring with Doctor Strange and he IS on the Illuminati board. Beta Ray bill, if you read the Storm Bringer mini, is living in New York and Spidey is aware of his existence, and with Thor gone a perfect recommendation for a second team. Reed asks Ben (Thing) Grimm to go as an inside man, possibly not trusting the other Illuminati. Shulkie and Wonderman are legacy members. Forge goes with Storm.

So I did think about continuity. It's not COMPLETELY loopy.

Well, except the Ghost Rider bit. I threw in there, but no biggie. It makes as much sense as Spider-Woman, so sue me ;)

As for the redundancy of so many heavy hitters on board, they are supposed to be "Earth's Mighty Heroes". I could see this team taking on Galactus. the New Avengers had their butts handed to them by "the Wrecker".

[tjarvis]

Do we know that Ares is joining a team book, or just that he would be featured in one? Because I heard that he might be making an apperance in Fantastic Four during this Thor/Doom arc, so that might be what they were referencing.

[Mariah]

Do we know that Ares is joining a team book, or just that he would be featured in one? Because I heard that he might be making an apperance in Fantastic Four during this Thor/Doom arc, so that might be what they were referencing.
Joe Q and B.B. have both confirmed that Ares will be joining a group, I'm assuming the one that has Wolverine on it.

[Babylon23]

The logical thing for Cap to do would be to form a team of heroes he's familiar with/has worked with before. This would naturally take the form of a more traditional Avengers line-up. I'd like to see:

Clint Barton/Hawkeye
Wasp
Hank Pym
Black Knight
She-Hulk
Wonder Man
Spider-Man
Falcon

I'd also think Wolverine would be more of an anti-registration guy. He certainly objected ot the Mutant Registration Act. So he'd probably be a contender for Cap's team

With her connections to the government, I could see Ms. Marvel joining Iron Man's team, giving him:

Iron Man
Spider-Woman
Sentry
Ronin
Cage
Ms. Marvel

[moon knight]

Iron Man
Ms. Marvel
Sentry
Ronin
Ares
Wonder Man


Captian America
Black Knight
She-Hulk
Yellowjacket
Wasp
Mantis

i would like to see moon knight join a team but i dont have any idea which one to put him on.

[Haunt]

Iron Man
Ms. Marvel
Sentry
Ronin
Ares
Wonder Man


Captian America
Black Knight
She-Hulk
Yellowjacket
Wasp
Mantis

i would like to see moon knight join a team but i dont have any idea which one to put him on.

The Champions or Defenders, maybe.

[Wonder Dude]

I'm not sure why so many think that Ares would be involved in the registration movement. He seemed pretty intense about his privacy.

[Haunt]

I'm not sure why so many think that Ares would be involved in the registration movement. He seemed pretty intense about his privacy.


and his guns. don't forget his guns.

[Kirk G]

interviews have purposedly refered to 'Hawkeye' only by 'Clint Barton.' so, if he does return, it will probably be as himself or in a new guise. and i don't think the new Ant-Man is the much to carry a legacy. he sounds like a bit of a jerk.
Do you think that Clint may have returned, hung up the Hawkeye costume, and then doned an Ant-Man outfit and shrunk out of sight... looking for Scott Lange in some sub-atomica world? In the past, no matter where Reed Richards, Johnny Storm,She-Hulk, The Silver surfer, or Hulk have started from, they always seem to wind up in the same Sub-atomic world they are seeking. :eek:

[maniacmatt]

I see Civil War leading to a division between Tony Stark, and Captain America, and one of the two leaving to form a new Avengers team.
I'm going to assume it's Captain America
A) because it will be the bigger shock.
B) it'll add prestige to the second Avengers team.
C) Tony Stark's company is based in New York. Captain America has no such ties to the city, and it would be appropriate to have him live in another city.


I don't see this happening because this is what Cap thought screwed the old Avengers. He will stay with the NA because they were formed by fate. IM doesn't completely believe in fate and is going to go find some other
psycho-reality-screwer to kill his Newest Avengers team.

[Haunt]

Do you think that Clint may have returned, hung up the Hawkeye costume, and then doned an Ant-Man outfit and shrunk out of sight... looking for Scott Lange in some sub-atomica world? In the past, no matter where Reed Richards, Johnny Storm,She-Hulk, The Silver surfer, or Hulk have started from, they always seem to wind up in the same Sub-atomic world they are seeking. :eek:

not likely. Scott Lange is dead. i'm half expecting Clint to show up as a SHIELD agent or something. i think the Wanda incident shocked him to his core and that's why he hung up the costume. but he's an action-junkie, so i don't see him working in a cubicle anytime soon either. does make me wonder about that issue of SheHulk where she passes Hawkeye the note about Disassembled. shouldn't that have stopped it from happening? if not, what was the point of that issue?

I don't see this happening because this is what Cap thought screwed the old Avengers. He will stay with the NA because they were formed by fate. IM doesn't completely believe in fate and is going to go find some other
psycho-reality-screwer to kill his Newest Avengers team.

my money is on Tony and Cap not being friends after this; definately not teammates.

[Jmacq1]

Yeah, Cap and Tony won't be friends for a couple years after this. Then Marvel will do away with Registration (once the story's panned out ie probably at the end of this "five year arc" they're talking about), and things will return to status quo yet again.

The second Avengers team will almost certainly be led by Cap. My personal guesses are:

New Avengers:
1. Iron Man (Team Leader)

2. Spider Man (I don't think he's going to switch sides like everyone expects, because well...that's what everyone is expecting)

3. Sentry (Too underdeveloped to take him out of this book now)

4. Ms. Marvel (Reluctantly, because she's loyal to Cap but also likely to agree with registration, given her background).

5. Spider Woman (Maybe, she may leave the team to go star in her solo-series, but if not, HYDRA would probably want her with the government-allied team).

6. USAgent (Probably being recognized as the "official" Captain America by the government again. Conversely, he may be better suited to joining the Thunderbolts)

7. Ronin (Like Sentry, too underdeveloped as a part of the team to shift her now. Plus I think Bendis said somewhere that she'd figure prominently in the post "Civil-War" arc).

"Mighty Avengers" (For lack of a better name):
1. Captain America (Team Leader)

2. The newly-returned Thor (Counterpart to Sentry's "powerhouse" role)

3. Wolverine (Or maybe he'll just leave any Avengers team altogether, or possibly join up with/lead the new "Alpha Flight").

4. Hank Pym (Because at least one big-time scientist type needs to be anti-registration).

5. Wasp (Because she probably convinced Hank to be anti-registration)

6. Dr. Strange (Clearly anti-registration. May throw in with Cap to offer support to the side that's not giving in to the "fear and ignorance". Plus it follows the pattern of adding characters that haven't traditionally been considered Avengers to the roster).

7. Tigra (Cause you gotta have the obligatory "super-babe". And she just doesn't seem like the registration type).

Wild Cards (IE Other characters that could go either way/be involved):

Luke Cage (Likely leaving the Avengers for the recently-announced "Heroes for Hire" title).

Justice/Firestar: Can't imagine their recent breakup wasn't a setup for them to end up on opposing sides/have opposing viewpoints on Registration. Plus the New Warriors' involvement in sparking it off will have personal ramifications for both of them.

Wonder Man: Given a public identity and a strong sense of personal responsibility, likely to be pro-registration. But if the team's already got Sentry and Ms. Marvel, he's redundant.

Black Panther/Storm: Too likely to remain in Wakanda and let this stuff affect them as little as possible. I'd love to see them on Cap's team, but I just don't think it'll happen.

Namor: Respects Cap enough to follow him, but may be too angry and contrarian for any team. Or he may be going back to the "villain" role once all is said and done. I can easily see him taking up a similar position as Black Adam does in DC.

[Mr.Nobody]

Cap
Spider-man(the new costume was to show his allegiance to Stark during Civil War why would he drop it if he was going to stay on IM team.)
Hawkeye
Wolverine
Thor
She Hulk


Ironman
Spider-woman(I agree that hydra would want her on a Government team.)
Sentry(Civil War promo pic show him with IM)
Goliath(See Sentry)
Ms. Marvel
Ares

Side note. I dont know why. But I really want to switch Thor and Ares. I have no reason to. But I just do.

[Haunt]

Cap
Spider-man(the new costume was to show his allegiance to Stark during Civil War why would he drop it if he was going to stay on IM team.)
Hawkeye
Wolverine
Thor
She Hulk


Ironman
Spider-woman(I agree that hydra would want her on a Government team.)
Sentry(Civil War promo pic show him with IM)
Goliath(See Sentry)
Ms. Marvel
Ares

Side note. I dont know why. But I really want to switch Thor and Ares. I have no reason to. But I just do.

i'll tell you what; Ares certainly isn't going to support registration.

[Jmacq1]

i'll tell you what; Ares certainly isn't going to support registration.

Neither should Thor. I'm still not convinced Ares is joining any team. It's not like Joey Q and company haven't changed their minds on stuff like this before.

As for the Spider-Man costume: It was recently revealed that his current "Iron Spider" suit can change coloration/appearance pretty much on Spidey's whim. He can look "classic" and keep all the whiz-bang abilities of the new suit if he wants.

[Edward J Cunningham]

i don't know if this is a spoiler or not but Tony is pro-registration (ends up revealing his own identity).




I may not buy the series if Marvel attempts to make this a big issue. TONY STARK ALREADY REVEALED HIS SECRET IDENTITY SEVERAL YEARS AGO!!!! Only somebody who is brain dead would accept his explanation that somebody "else" was now wearing his Iron Man suit. YOU CAN'T PUT THIS GENIE BACK INTO THE BOTTLE. If you are going to shock Marvel audiences with someone revealing their secret identity, there's only guy you can do it with. Spider-Man. The ONLY major super-hero in the Marvel Universe that still has a secret identity.

Eddie Cunnigham

[Mitchel]

I'm not sure why so many think that Ares would be involved in the registration movement. He seemed pretty intense about his privacy.


I hope that rumor about Ares joining is not true. One would think with Echo, Sentry, Spider-woman, Wolverine, Cage and Spider-man we have enough new members. Lets give a break to Wonder Man, Pym, Wasp and some of the other traditional guys. Why would I want freaking Ares in the Avengers instead of Hercules! :mad:

[Haunt]

I hope that rumor about Ares joining is not true. One would think with Echo, Sentry, Spider-woman, Wolverine, Cage and Spider-man we have enough new members. Lets give a break to Wonder Man, Pym, Wasp and some of the other traditional guys. Why would I want freaking Ares in the Avengers instead of Hercules! :mad:


i'd rather see Ares league up with a revamped Masters of Evil, Zodiac, or Defenders. Hercules will probably go back to the Champions. i have no idea about Simon Williams but i heard that PAD was going to write a solo series starring the character.

[Mr.Nobody]

As for the Spider-Man costume: It was recently revealed that his current "Iron Spider" suit can change coloration/appearance pretty much on Spidey's whim. He can look "classic" and keep all the whiz-bang abilities of the new suit if he wants.

I think Marvel has said that Spider-man would go back to his "classic" look n under a year. But I'm not sure on that one.

[element13]

storm is scheduled to join a huge marvel team soon that is supposed to be a big part of marvel, also she has been on alternate teams of the avengers 4 times so it's about time she gets the chance in the 616 universe. it would also make perfect sence for xavier to nominate her for avengers with the whole creating the X.S.E deal and being a big mutant spokesperson in the government. and now with the whole big government position/queen of wakanda as well as having a ton of leading expierence and battle expierence she'd be a good asset and position for the avengers. also she-huk or hawkeye won't be on a second team of avengers because they are supposed to join the fantastic four. also, how do you use spoilers?

[Owens 23]

There will not be a huge roster shakeup in New Avengers. Take out the popular characters like Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man, etc.....and you get a drop in sales. Marvel knows a good thing when they see it.

[Linguini]

One of my best bets is Iron Fist.

[da_real_yellowjacket]

one of the reasons i love the avengers is the chance to see heroes that don't get much of a spotlight. stingray, jack of hearts, yellowjacket. these guys don't have their own books but they are cool in their own right. some of them have a great history. i mean, jack of hearts was experimented on by his own father and his mom was an alien...it's like frankenstein and the x-files.

come on marvel, please show us some heroes in the avengers that do not appear in three other books. we can't see them anywhere else...

my picks; just 'cos ::

jack of hearts
yellowjacket
stingray
living laser
nova
nighthawk
puck !! yes dammit, Puck! :)
speed demon
pyro (and don't use the dead excuse, it carries no weight)
crimson dynamo

[Haunt]

one of the reasons i love the avengers is the chance to see heroes that don't get much of a spotlight. stingray, jack of hearts, yellowjacket. these guys don't have their own books but they are cool in their own right. some of them have a great history. i mean, jack of hearts was experimented on by his own father and his mom was an alien...it's like frankenstein and the x-files.

come on marvel, please show us some heroes in the avengers that do not appear in three other books. we can't see them anywhere else...

my picks; just 'cos ::

jack of hearts
yellowjacket
stingray
living laser
nova
nighthawk
puck !! yes dammit, Puck! :)
speed demon
pyro (and don't use the dead excuse, it carries no weight)
crimson dynamo


isn't Laser a little too...evil to consider for membership? i know they have Wolverine on the team but c'mon. ;)

[da_real_yellowjacket]

i thought there was a younger living laser that was a good guy. he's in an asteroid base way out in deep space somewhere...in the cap marvel books...do i have his name wrong?

[Haunt]

i thought there was a younger living laser that was a good guy. he's in an asteroid base way out in deep space somewhere...in the cap marvel books...do i have his name wrong?


there's only one living laser; Arthur Parks. he's been one of the main characters of the recent Iron Man: Inevitable series. and he's far from being a good guy. :)

[Grazzt]

isn't Laser a little too...evil to consider for membership? i know they have Wolverine on the team but c'mon. ;)

Maybe he meant Living Lightning?

[da_real_yellowjacket]

yup. that's the one. living lightning. thanks :)