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Ogrebear

03-20-2006, 06:56 AM

Thought I'd post some thoughts on who(m) I think could make interesting addition(s) to the team.

1) Rage
Former Avenger and New Warrior. Powerhouse, but is a child in the body of a man. Lots of anger issues!

Marvel bio: Rage (http://marvel.com/universe/Rage)
Older Bio with pics: Rage (http://underworld.fortunecity.com/blood/201/marvel/rage.html)
Apperance list: apperance (http://www.coreyblake.com/nwcc/characters/inactive/rage.html)

2)Gorilla Man
Well he's from the 1950's Avengers, but bringing in a son or similar could be cool. Gorilla-man is a man 'trapped' in a gorilla body. His son could be a Beast like intelligent apeman type.

Profile: GorillaMan (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/gorillam.htm)
Bio: Lost gen (http://www.lostgenerationhandbook.com/gorillaman.htm)

3)Living Lightning
Formally an Avengers foe, then an Ally. Has past history with Kang. Needs a suit to have a soild form. Student so slightly older than the teens. Some interesting polts come come from him esp as he might be gay!

Marvel Bio: offical (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Living_Lightning)
Bio with pics: http://underworld.fortunecity.com/blood/201/marvel/livinglightning.html#
Is he gay??: relgion (http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/LivingLightning.html)

streator

03-20-2006, 07:36 AM

warlock, specifically the last incarnation that hasn't been seen for 6 years.
this guy, next to spidey (and this was a good series, despite it bombing):
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/warlock/warlock6.jpg

Eumenide No 2

03-20-2006, 07:50 AM

x-23 and Arana.

Gaz

03-20-2006, 07:58 AM

Gravity. (It's "Young" not "Teen", he qualifies.) And X-23, but that's because I'm one of about 6 people who actually liked the character from day one.

Harlock

03-20-2006, 08:26 AM

ocelotrevs

03-20-2006, 08:28 AM

Maybe Arana. She'd seem to fit better as she's more of a New York native.
(really should look at some of her solo stuff as well, but ignore this part...)

Arilou

03-20-2006, 08:43 AM

Gravity would be kind of cool actually.

And Matte Franklin, the (3rd.? 4th?) Spider-Woman.

We R. Venom

03-20-2006, 09:12 AM

Id like to save Gravity for the Avengers, Arana for me. They need a spider, and as well, she would ft wonderfully. X-23, hmmm perhaps, but i think she's cool with the new x-men.

Tony Starkz

03-20-2006, 09:56 AM

I'd rather keep the roster to brand new characters.

Mariah

03-20-2006, 02:24 PM

I'd rather keep the roster to brand new characters.
Me too. Unless they came up with a totally good reason why they should be on the team.

Crash-Man

03-20-2006, 02:42 PM

I'd rather keep the roster to brand new characters.

Seconded. I'd like to see more new characters.

As an aside, if I never see Rage again it'll be too soon.

scouse mouse

03-20-2006, 02:57 PM

I would like Firestar to show up maybe as a mentor passing on her knowledge and experiences of being a teen super hero. She had only just turned 18 when she became a full time Avenger so she could easily realte to the kids. Plus I havent seen her for ages and I miss her! :(

Arilou

03-20-2006, 03:06 PM

Hey, nobody but me thinks Mattie should make a comeback? :p I liked her powers (psychic spider-legs FTW!) She's also been interacting with both Jessica's (Drew & Jones) so she's definately connected to the New Avengers....

Young Avenger

03-20-2006, 04:40 PM

I'd rather keep the roster to brand new characters.

Thirded. YA are better off having fewer established characters on their roster.

moon knight

03-20-2006, 04:45 PM

right now i would rather see this team stay as it is for a while but i would like to see Ares' son show up

Will.S

03-20-2006, 04:50 PM

I actually think Gravity would work perfectly in a new New Warriors team. For some reason I just think he fits that type of team and he has teamed up with Speedball in MTU (although now they're in a different timeline).

As for new recruits, it's still kinda early since the team hasn't been on a whole lot of adventures and they recently grew with a functioning "Young Vision" and now with Tommy coming into the mix so the roster is already expanding with new characters. More down the line I'm unsure, maybe some of the Runaways whenever they decide to stop....running.

Doom Hammer

03-20-2006, 05:38 PM

Arana being on the team would make me...uhm...not want to read about the team. ;)

Meta 05

03-20-2006, 06:41 PM

I think a new member on the Team wouldn't exactly be a bad thing but, it has to be a postion an set of powers not covered by who else is already there.

Teddy(( ALL TIME FAV OF THE GROUP)).Pretty much covers the whole strongman facet with his powers as is.

AVENGERS the older group always irked me with multiple chars with power redundancy((STRENGTH FLIGHT DURABILITY)) the usual.

I can see a SPIDERMAN TYPE of char for the group ARANA, all thou i am not familiar with her seems to fit.

While there at it imtroducing a side kick teenager to MOON KNIGHT some time soon an having him MOONLIGHT on the team at times would be interesting ((LIKE ROBIN IN TITANS)).

as far as another gay char which was made a suggestion a few posts back "NO"
" I AM GAY MY SELF BUT I DON"T WANT TO SEE YOUNG AVENGERS BECOME THE DIVERSITY DUMPING GROUND TO THROW HOMOSEXUAL CHARS ON"

THERE OUR TWO ALREADY,IF THERE IS ANOTHER SEEING A TENSION AN LOVE TRAIGNEL BETWEEN ((BILLY, TEDDY , AND NEW GUY WOULD BE INTERESTING BUT IT KIND OF TAKES THE WHOLE APEALING TO GAYS THING OVER THE TOP AN MAKES PEOPLE THINK THATS THE BOOKS ONLY SELLING POINT,ITS DEFINATLY GOT A LOT MORE TO OFFER THEN THAT.THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST BOOKS MARVEL HAS GOING
((IMHO))I WOULD LITERALLY SELL MY SOUL TO A CERTAIN RED FIEND TO KEEP IT GETTING PUBLISHED.

I ONLY WISH I COULD GET MY FIX EVERY MONTH INSTEAD OF EVERY TWO MONTHS.

PretenderNX01

03-21-2006, 05:51 PM

THERE OUR TWO ALREADY,IF THERE IS ANOTHER SEEING A TENSION AN LOVE TRAIGNEL BETWEEN ((BILLY, TEDDY , AND NEW GUY WOULD BE INTERESTING BUT IT KIND OF TAKES THE WHOLE APEALING TO GAYS THING OVER THE TOP AN MAKES PEOPLE THINK THATS THE BOOKS ONLY SELLING POINT,ITS DEFINATLY GOT A LOT MORE TO OFFER THEN THAT.

Yeah, plus the last thing we need is for the only stable gay couple in mainstream comics to break up. :eek:

I kinda think the 6 they have on the team is plenty. Theres enough drama with Eli and Kate not being super but still trying to be heros, Vision figuring out where he fits in, Cassie's mom hating supers, and Billy and Teddy finding out about the origins of their powers to last quite a while.

Another member would just take away time from that and we already have to wait a month or more to find out about the characters currently on the team. ;)

Haunt

03-21-2006, 05:56 PM

i only want people from Vision's protocols to join; new characters. i, personally, don't want to see Arana, X-23, or Gravity anywhere near this book. they could all start up a new New Warriors.

Cowlander

03-22-2006, 09:44 AM

i only want people from Vision's protocols to join; new characters. i, personally, don't want to see Arana, X-23, or Gravity anywhere near this book. they could all start up a new New Warriors.
well technically gravity could be related to graviton or sometihing like that LOL, blame it on wanda and it could work.

protege

03-22-2006, 10:08 AM

Coe to think of it, whomever's left from the New Warriors could serve on the team- Turbo, Nova, Kymera, even Aegis. Is Excelsior going to regroup?

Mariah

03-23-2006, 12:56 AM

well technically gravity could be related to graviton or sometihing like that LOL, blame it on wanda and it could work.
How did Gravity get his powers anyway?? I never read the mini--not enough money

Gaz

03-23-2006, 04:37 AM

How did Gravity get his powers anyway?? I never read the mini--not enough money
Good old-fashioned magic chemical spill, as I recall.

RonnieThunderbolts

03-23-2006, 11:32 PM

Good old-fashioned magic chemical spill, as I recall.

Not the case. His origin was shrouded in mystery, kept being called "the accident" and was at sea, he was sucked into a huge whirlpool while in a powerful storm on his parents' yacht. While the lack of explanation could be considered similar to the chemical/radiation origins of old, it didn't seem like a silver age-style implausible origin tale as much as one that is as yet unrevealed. There was certainly no chemical involved, at least not as they've represented it.

Mariah

03-23-2006, 11:50 PM

Not the case. His origin was shrouded in mystery, kept being called "the accident" and was at sea, he was sucked into a huge whirlpool while in a powerful storm on his parents' yacht. While the lack of explanation could be considered similar to the chemical/radiation origins of old, it didn't seem like a silver age-style implausible origin tale as much as one that is as yet unrevealed. There was certainly no chemical involved, at least not as they've represented it.
Huh, that answered everything ;) Thanks for the response.

RonnieThunderbolts

03-24-2006, 12:22 AM

Huh, that answered everything ;) Thanks for the response.

You're quite welcome. No problem at all.

Zeta

03-26-2006, 04:28 PM

Not the case. His origin was shrouded in mystery, kept being called "the accident" and was at sea, he was sucked into a huge whirlpool while in a powerful storm on his parents' yacht. While the lack of explanation could be considered similar to the chemical/radiation origins of old, it didn't seem like a silver age-style implausible origin tale as much as one that is as yet unrevealed. There was certainly no chemical involved, at least not as they've represented it.

15 bucks says the Bermuda Triangle is somehow involved.

Tony Starkz

03-26-2006, 07:26 PM

I like the line-up as is.If we do see new YA,I hope they're brand new creations by Heinberg.

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03-26-2006, 08:27 PM

RonnieThunderbolts

03-27-2006, 12:05 AM

15 bucks says the Bermuda Triangle is somehow involved.

Not unless it moved to the midwest. He was a Great Lakes kid, no Bermuda Triangle involved at all...

PretenderNX01

03-27-2006, 04:51 PM

Not unless it moved to the midwest. He was a Great Lakes kid, no Bermuda Triangle involved at all...

Maybe he was in Lake Eerie.

I apologize for that lame joke. :rolleyes:

Asian Knight

03-28-2006, 02:02 AM

Ideally, nobody.

If there has to be an addition, it should be either a new character or a relatively inexperienced one. Bringing in a former New Warrior (or the equivalent) would add yet another mentor figure to a team that already has plenty. Plus, it looks like they're sticking to a Young Avengers formula in terms of additions to the cast. That would make the next characters up Hercules, Black Panther, and Black Knight, and I can't really think of existing characters to fit those archetypes (without some modifications, of course).

I'm sticking with my Young Ares theory, personally.

I know that he's on A-Next. But is there a Coal Tiger in our current universe or the man who grows up to be Coal Tiger? Because if he was in our universe as well, he'd fit on this one I'm thinking. Or do we have a person with good reflexes?

Maybe give the team a back up team member. Not really there but around like Jarvis is for the Avengers team. Maybe give the YA a costume designer just incase the Avengers take their equipment again ya know. I mean after all, who does design their costumes?

I do have another idea. Why not bring in I think the character's name was SilverClaw of A-Next. That ultimate warrior chick with the ability to transform. I mean she would be a good combatant or combat instructor for the team. Or would she be too hard on them?

zinderel

03-28-2006, 08:11 PM

I've heard a rumor that Alexander, from the Ares mini, was going to be joining up...fills in the "god as a team member" role...

RonnieThunderbolts

03-28-2006, 08:45 PM

I've heard a rumor that Alexander, from the Ares mini, was going to be joining up...fills in the "god as a team member" role...

I'm pretty sure you've taken some things wrong, I'm almost 100% certain that I am aware of what you are refering to, but it wasn't exactly a rumor. Ares (not Alexander) is reported to join a Marvel team book. Someone suggested they thought it'd be cool for Alex to join the Young Avengers. That is not a rumor, that is an idea.

Young Avenger

03-28-2006, 08:48 PM

Maybe give the YA a costume designer just incase the Avengers take their equipment again ya know. I mean after all, who does design their costumes?

In Young Avengers #6, Kate said she knows people in the fashion industry and they designed the new costumes for the team. Whoever is her fashion contacts is the YA costume designer.

Ogrebear

04-11-2006, 06:35 AM

Hows about Lyja the Skrull from the FF- she could join to keep an eye on Hulkling......

Plus it would be cool to see what shes been up to all this time...

FrogMan

04-11-2006, 07:28 AM

Ollie Osnick, the Steel Spider!!!!

PAHLEAASSSSEEE!!

Gaz

04-11-2006, 01:52 PM

In Young Avengers #6, Kate said she knows people in the fashion industry and they designed the new costumes for the team. Whoever is her fashion contacts is the YA costume designer.
Janet Van Dyne. Has to be. Do you really think Jan could resist the chance to create "hip" costumes based off of the classic Avengers duds? :D

Zombienorthstar

04-11-2006, 01:53 PM

Id love it if Janet came on in a mentor capacity shes such a hoot.

Red State Cap

04-11-2006, 02:18 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing TIMMY from southpark.

RSC

Hawkingbird82

04-11-2006, 04:50 PM

If they do add a character I hope its a new one from the vision protocalls. There were more than just what comprises the group now in there, so it would be ok to add some more. I just don't want them to add existing characters unless they can find some relation to the avengers. Thats what made this group special.

As an aside, I don't think the group needs another gay character, but having another one wouldn't hurt either. Or at least it shouldn't if the writings good. Just don't add a gay character to be a gay character. I hardly consider teddy or wiccan to be "gay characters", just awsome heros that happen to be gay.

Asian Knight

04-15-2006, 10:20 PM

Yeah, I'm sure Janet could fit on the team. But what is Hulkling's true link is it Ms. Marvel. Before we found out his origin, I was hoping it was Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel. I mean they did have a fling.

But getting back to the new chracters. If Amara were to join this team, does this mean that Miguel would join them also? I'm thinking this though, since Richard Rider was given a nova costume from the Xandarians or whatever that race was. I'm sure Rich has the old nova threads.

I'm sure that Captain Universe would be a good ally to the team. I mean the Uni-Power has been known to take on someone who needed it. So I have an idea. Why not have a teen Captain Universe. In other words, when Captain Univese takes over a teen, have them aid the Young Avengers. If I'm looking at the comics correctly after all. Didn't the Uni Power select a teenager who was in a wheel chair? If they did, what ever happened to him.

StoneGold

04-16-2006, 12:54 AM

I'm pretty sure you've taken some things wrong, I'm almost 100% certain that I am aware of what you are refering to, but it wasn't exactly a rumor. Ares (not Alexander) is reported to join a Marvel team book. Someone suggested they thought it'd be cool for Alex to join the Young Avengers. That is not a rumor, that is an idea.
Keep in mind, in the mini, the Japanese gods' evil plot is to have Alex kill his father and become the new Ares.

RonnieThunderbolts

04-16-2006, 01:13 AM

Keep in mind, in the mini, the Japanese gods' evil plot is to have Alex kill his father and become the new Ares.

Well, they've said they want him to replace Ares, yes, but they also clearly want to kill all other pantheons of gods, so they may just want to use him to kill his dad (a big threat to them potentially) and then get rid of him too.

I can see it as a possibility, maybe down the road, maybe sooner than later. But Heinberg already had till issue 15 plotted MONTHS ago, and he has one more issue before the title goes on hiatus for some time, I don't think the "Ares is joining a major Marvel team" was meant as Alex joining a team that will not be around. I DEFININATELY don't see Heinberg having another writer, like Zeb Wells, adding a new cast member in the YA/Runaways crossover mini, so I just can't see HOW Alex would join anytime soon.

I could be wrong though, its been known to happen!

StoneGold

04-16-2006, 01:15 AM

Well, they've said they want him to replace Ares, yes, but they also clearly want to kill all other pantheons of gods, so they may just want to use him to kill his dad (a big threat to them potentially) and then get rid of him too.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, I'm just guessing that's why the rumor seemed more valid than, say, Ares joining New X-Men.

Faded

04-16-2006, 01:17 AM

Silverclaw and/or Living Lightning would be cool established characters to add IMO.

StoneGold

04-16-2006, 01:18 AM

Silverclaw and/or Living Lightning would be cool established characters to add IMO.
A little old. Although Living Lightning would fit in fine, if you catch my drift.

sschroeder

04-16-2006, 01:33 AM

Is Namorita still in this age group?

Young Avenger

04-16-2006, 01:37 AM

Is Namorita still in this age group?

Even if she was she won't be able to join. Being dead and all.

sschroeder

04-16-2006, 01:41 AM

Even if she was she won't be able to join. Being dead and all.

She's dead? Are you citing those Civil War pages in Illuminati? The outcome of that is hardly definite at this point though I agree it looks bad.

Young Avenger

04-16-2006, 01:55 AM

She's dead? Are you citing those Civil War pages in Illuminati? The outcome of that is hardly definite at this point though I agree it looks bad.

She was at the heart of the explosion. It has to be a miracle if she managed to survive that.

StoneGold

04-16-2006, 02:33 AM

Seems to me, we're missing a Wonderman analogue. So there's only one answer.

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/shunter/td3.gif

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power?
Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck man?

widdershins

04-16-2006, 06:57 AM

Can't believe noone mentioned Victor Mancha,Ultron's son from the Runaways.

o1pickleboy

04-16-2006, 03:24 PM

Janet Van Dyne. Has to be. Do you really think Jan could resist the chance to create "hip" costumes based off of the classic Avengers duds? :D

No way those costumes are a Van Dyne. They look to cool.

As for who I want to join I like some of the Young Allies. Namely Jolt.

Young Avenger

04-16-2006, 03:53 PM

Can't believe noone mentioned Victor Mancha,Ultron's son from the Runaways.

He's better off with the Runaways then the Young Avengers.

DDM

04-16-2006, 04:27 PM

Since Wolverine is in all the X-Men books, his solo title, related limited series, New Avengers, I'm waiting for Wolverine to join the Young Avengers too...

RonnieThunderbolts

04-16-2006, 05:17 PM

Perhaps it'd be cool to continue the tradition of a general adherence to the original Avengers formation, just for fun.

The original Avengers membership went:

Thor, Iron Man, Giant-Man, Wasp, Hulk and Rick Jones

With the additions of Cap, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch and then Swordsman. After the additions of Hercules and Black Panther came the Vision.

They are covered almost all the way through that point, with Wiccan playing first Thor, and then Scarlet Witch's part, Iron Lad taking on the role of Iron Man, Stature as Giant-Man and Wasp, Hulkling takes up the Hulk of course, as well as Captain Marvel, and also Rick Jones after a fashion. Patriot of course acts as Cap, Kate for Hawkeye, Swordsman, and the later addition of Mockingbird as well, and Tommy works as Quicksilver. Of course, Vision skips ahead two recruits as he appears as a member alongside Tommy, and also kind of founded the group.

The skipped recruits next in line, were Hercules, and then the Black Panther, and they have some natural pre-existing candidates for Young Avengers membership.

Ares' son Alex, as we've talked about for a while on this very thread, is Herc's nephew, and a natural stand-in for him. Also, Herc's sister appointed Trey Rollins, the still High-School (and Young Avengers) aged former New Warrior and New York resident Aegis, as her guardian on Earth. He even met Herc in an issue and gained his approval. If not Alex, or Aegis, maybe Herc's own appointed bearer of Olympian power, as an original character.

Also, Queen Divine Justice would be a perfect addition for the Black Panther strand-in, plus she has a real Hulk connection (she was developing a relationship like Kitty Pryde or Jubilee to Hulk's Wolverine). She was a lady in waiting of the King T'Challa's in Priest's Black Panther run and a Chicago native as well. Her dichotomy of a royal Wakandan immigrant past and an urban upbringing in the US could give her an interesting starting point when relating to the cast of YA. She is really a natural to me, and would be a wonderful way to increase the double X portion of the female to male ratio on the team. I'm so into the idea of her as a member, I've added her into my current pic of the Young Avengers group to show how cool I think she'd be as a new YA recruit. You can find that pic here (http://jjinbeat.com/YoungAvengers-Idea.jpg).

I don't think they HAVE to stick to generally following the Avengers timeline, but it could be interesting to see how long they could do it as well and as naturally as they have been introduced so far.

StoneGold

04-16-2006, 06:33 PM

Also, Queen Divine Justice would be a perfect addition for the Black Panther strand-in,
Assuming she still exists. Sigh.

RonnieThunderbolts

04-16-2006, 06:51 PM

Assuming she still exists. Sigh.

Watch me ignore Hudlin's continuity gaffes! Watch, here I go! :)

CMBMOOL

04-16-2006, 06:53 PM

X-23, ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!! :D

And if not Gravity, or Anyna, or maybe Luna, no wait that Power Pack ...:o, or how about Alex.

Just how many superhero kids are there in the Marvel Universe that can be a part Young Avengers ? :confused:

StoneGold

04-16-2006, 07:19 PM

Watch me ignore Hudlin's continuity gaffes! Watch, here I go! :)
In fairness, they aren't gaffes. Gaffes are unintentional. Say what you will about Hudlin, but he knew what he was doing. Whatever the hell that was.

stormphoenix

04-17-2006, 11:46 AM

sticking with the Vision protocols:

Rage: former avenger, still youngs, but with Teddy's status as resident strongman, unlikely.

Firestar: good choice, Another former avenger. Leadership would butt heads with Kate ( tension), but with her role in civil war will have her joining a avenger team or retiring. unlikely

Living Lightning: see above, alongside a possible repetitive sexual orientaton storyline.

Vibraxis: Black Panther link- would give the team it's wakandain link.

who else?

RonnieThunderbolts

04-17-2006, 12:14 PM

Vibraxis: Black Panther link- would give the team it's wakandain link.

who else?

Ahhh, Vibraxis is the boyfriend of my choice for a Black Panther stand-in, Queen Divine Justice. She is more interesting to me, and also adds another female to the mix. All of the former members wouldn't be on the Failsafe Program though, because they were the NEXT generation of potential Avengers, not young members, associates or former members. It seemed to me that Living Lightning, and the others only have the age factor in common with the YA, and this wasn't a list of "young Avengers related people" but of currently not-Avenger potential replacement/members. For example, we know Josiah X, Eli's uncle, WAS on the list, and he's over 50.