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fishtaco
03-19-2006, 12:00 AM
http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA06/Marvel/X_Menchanges.htm

# On Wolverine Origins, Quesada said, “Daniel Way and Steve Dillon are going to take you on a tour of Wolverine’s memory… remembering everything can also be a curse. The first arc covers something very vital and interesting to Wolverine’s life.”Barf city. Uncanny X-Men Annual #1 (June 2006) deals with Storm and the X-Men being back together for the first time since she returned to Africa, a sort of sequel to “Lifedeath”. It’s Claremont’s last Uncanny work before Ed Brubaker takes over.Whoa! Quesada has heard of Lifedeath? I would imagine it being a depressing read (Storm/Black Panther sucks!!!!), but I'll still be glad if Claremont can resolve some of his Storm danglers. I doubt the magical abilities would fly, but the violent atttitude since X-Treme X-Men #'s 36-39 likely will. Also, this is Annual 19. Not Annual 1. Quesada is restarting annual numbers too? :rolleyes: Black Tom Cassidy is coming back in New Excalibur.He is? :rolleyes: Talking about New X-Men, Craig Kyle said, “What we’re trying to do is really sink the kids into the X-Universe…it’s time to grow up, they can’t stay in the safety of the house any longer…we’re going to make them X-Men.”I'm loving the book, but I still don't like how they are being referred to as "New X-Men". They are potential X-Men, but they are not X-Men. Some of them may be X-Men, but it today's industry where "hot writers" roster's consist of Cyclops, Emma Frost, Beast, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Colossus, Wolverine, Wolverine, and Wolverine, I doubt any of these kids will last as cast members of one of the core titles for more than a year, if they even get that lucky. That's a shame, too. I like all of them, except for Rockslide. Cebulski talked about this upcoming X-Men Fairy Tales series. “I’m a huge fan of X-Men from way back in the day, and one of my favorites was X-Men #153, when Kitty Pryde told Illyana a bedtime story in the form of a fairy tale.”"Back in the day". Why does Claremont only get credit for the first half of his original run on Uncanny X-Men? The second half was so much better. The first issue features a Japanese fairy tale drawn by Sana Takeda, issue #2 an African fairy tale by Kyle Baker, issue #3 features a Grimm fairy tales retold as the “Dark Phoenix Saga” by Bill SienkiewiczHm? Dark Phoenix Saga fairy tale, Bill Sienkewicz? Bill Sienkewicz? I'm tempted to pick this up now...“World Tour” is Tony Bedard’s last major Exiles storyline before he leaves the book, and Chris Claremont takes over with the 616 Psylocke joining the team. Paul Pelletier will stay on as penciler.Seriously? :rolleyes: Civil War: X-Men by David Hine and Yannick Paquette was discussed, with Paquette announced as a Marvel exclusive artist. Editor Nick Lowe revealed, “Archangel will be making a major, major appearance in this book.”Crossovers=Pointless Major Character Deaths For Hype and Shock Value. Let's hope they don't kill off Warren. Civil War: X-Men by David Hine and Yannick Paquette was discussed, with Paquette announced as a Marvel exclusive artist. Editor Nick Lowe revealed, “Archangel will be making a major, major appearance in this book.”Whatever. I want to see those living sentinels that the Genoshans were going to use from Warlock's "ashes". Asked if Mr. Sinister will appearing any time soon, Lowe said Colossus: Bloodline left him in a precarious place, but readers will be seeing him in late this year or early next year, most likely be popping up somewhere.This could be either very good, or very bad. I hope he shows up in CDP. he New X-Men will have some - but not a lot - of involvement in Civil War.Moan! Keep them away from Civil War! Crossovers are for zombies!!!Salvador Larroca’s next project won’t be X-Men-related, and will be announced soon.Hmp. Lowe revealed three core Exile members will stick around when Psylocke joins the team – including Blink, Sabretooth, and Morph.Phew!! I was afraid that Sabretooth was going to be killed off. But now I fear for Longshot. I doubt Claremont would write Longshot, because when I asked him if he ever wants to write Longshot again, he said he would never write her without Nocenti's permission. I don't think they've been in touch for a long time. Also, judging by the cover of that upcoming issue of Exiles, Blink is mourning someone. Can Blink be mourning Longshot? I have seen very minor, subtle hints of attraction between the two of them. Long air Longshot!!!There are no current plans to team the New X-Men with the Young Avengers or Runaways.Good. Crossovers are for zombies!Asked about Chamber’s status, Marvel said it’s not going to be dealt with very soon, but that they’re certain they’re going to revisit Chamber at some point.I want him back on his feet again kicking @$$. Asked if Wolverine’s healing factor will ever evolve, the reader was told to “Read Wolverine Origins,” as the first story arc will deal with that issue.I believe this question was answered about fifteen years ago, now. Sigh. Continuity blunder waiting to happen...sked if the Mimic in Exiles is from the “616” Marvel Universe, it was revealed he comes from a, “Slightly different world where they embraced mutants.”Um, old news? Waste of article space. here are no plans to bring Jean Grey back.Best news in a long time. here are no plans to bring Jean Grey back.I love Synch, but he's really dead, and I don't think there's much more that he can add. I could be wrong about that last bit, of course. Quesada said there is, “No chance to get their powers back again,” asked about mutants depowered in House of M. Quesada reiterated earlier explanations as to why the depowering happened.Is Quesada actually trying to annoy fans on purpose? God, I hate him. Fans can expect changes to Polaris in the current Apocalypse X-Men arc and in Uncanny X-MenI'm just going to hope this is Brubaker's idea and not Milligan's. He's done enough damage already. The panel ended with Quesada joking that he thinks Doop will eventually kill Wolverine”Barf city.

Brian M.
03-19-2006, 12:10 AM
I agree w/ just about everything you said except the Jean Grey stuff and the Civil War/Crossover comments. Other than that this was kinda of a pointless panel.

Faded
03-19-2006, 12:19 AM
I'm loving the book, but I still don't like how they are being referred to as "New X-Men". They are potential X-Men, but they are not X-Men. Some of them may be X-Men, but it today's industry where "hot writers" roster's consist of Cyclops, Emma Frost, Beast, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Colossus, Wolverine, Wolverine, and Wolverine, I doubt any of these kids will last as cast members of one of the core titles for more than a year, if they even get that lucky. That's a shame, too. I like all of them, except for Rockslide.

Agreed.

I like the thought of them being in training to be X-Men rather than full blow members.

Re: Chamber I want him back on his feet again kicking @$$.

:D

Good man, fishtaco.

Um, old news? Waste of article space.

Yeah, thought it was odd they'd bring that up.

Is Quesada actually trying to annoy fans on purpose?

I can relate--I don't like how some of his comments come across. But I don't know the man personally, so I'll leave it at that.

Oh and long live Jean, Synch, and the forever cute Daap. I just had to say it.

Faded
03-19-2006, 12:41 AM
I just noticed something--Tommy and Billy from Young Avengers are the only otherwise non-Xrelated characters mentioned in the article. Coincidence? I think NOT! :evilsmile (The very talented but scaring me Mr. Heinberg better not kill off Billy or Teddy :mad: :()

lament
03-19-2006, 01:14 AM
Crossovers=Pointless Major Character Deaths For Hype and Shock Value. Let's hope they don't kill off Warren.

I don't think he's going to die, but I have a feeling they're going to do something I'm not going to like with Warren.

The Lucky One
03-19-2006, 01:42 AM
Phew!! I was afraid that Sabretooth was going to be killed off. But now I fear for Longshot. I doubt Claremont would write Longshot, because when I asked him if he ever wants to write Longshot again, he said he would never write him without Nocenti's permission. I don't think they've been in touch for a long time. Also, judging by the cover of that upcoming issue of Exiles, Blink is mourning someone. Can Blink be mourning Longshot? I have seen very minor, subtle hints of attraction between the two of them. Long air Longshot!!!

She's mourning Mimic, I think- Bedard mentioned that after World Tour, the team would have a downtime issue to mourn their losses, and since we now know Sabretooth survives, it's probably them giving a funeral for Cal. I doubt they'd definitively kill Longshot, they're more likely to just send him back to limbo... dammit, I was really hoping for a longer tenure for him, and even though I didn't love what Claremont did with him last time, I'd be happy to give him another shot. But if what you say is true, taco, doesn't sound like that'll happen. So much for Miggy, too.
:mad:

-D

Faded
03-19-2006, 02:01 AM
Not that I'm a fan, but I don't think Longshot fans should give up hope just yet. :)

Kal
03-19-2006, 02:03 AM
Let's hope they don't kill off Warren.

I hope they do. Banshee style.

Bryan Rios
03-19-2006, 02:04 AM
"Back in the day". Why does Claremont only get credit for the first half of his original run on Uncanny X-Men? The second half was so much better.
Kitty's Fairy Tale alone is better than his entire second half. =/

UniqueFrequency
03-19-2006, 02:27 AM
I hope they do. Banshee style.

i hope they don't! The original x-men have already lost jean (again). i'd be most sad if they killed off another original member

Novaya Havoc
03-19-2006, 07:45 AM
For someone who can't stand Claremont-bashing you sure do love to nitpick every. minute. detail. of a Quesada press release. Jeez. Complaining about the numbering of the annuals? Sweet mother of Gloria Estefan.

Anyhoot... of course the mutants will get their powers back at some point. Joe Q lost me at breaching "dead is dead."

Affinity
03-19-2006, 08:00 AM
Eh. Whatever. Nothing that really interests me in this article.

lonesomefool
03-19-2006, 08:15 AM
I love how you say you HATE Joe Quesada....like you know him personally or something. There is a difference in hating Joe Quesada's WORK and Joe Quesada the MAN.

Titan76
03-19-2006, 08:59 AM
I'm not liking the direction Marvel is taking the X-men after reading this.

I hope some good stories are on their way soon with the new creative teams because I'm about ready just to drop my X-books because I am tried of waiting.

Marty4Magik
03-19-2006, 09:01 AM
I'm not liking the direction Marvel is taking the X-men after reading this.

I hope some good stories are on their way soon with the new creative teams because I'm about ready just to drop my X-books because I am tried of waiting.
Hmm, sounds familiar. ;)
I dropped all my Marvel books except the ones written by CC and PAD.
For the first time, I started reading DC, and I am HOOKED!! :cool:

Brian M.
03-19-2006, 09:21 AM
Let Brubaker handle Jean's return. They are going into space soon and you have a ton of her relatives up there, it's a space adventure why not have Kid Vulcan go up against Phoenix. I mean, Alex, Rachel and Corsair are already there, toss in Scott and I'll have some sticky pages in my Uncanny comics.

lonesomefool
03-19-2006, 09:54 AM
I would prefer to see Brubaker tell his own stories that he wants to instead of fixing continuity. If he wants to bring back Jean, that's fine, but I dont it to be an editorial mandate or anything. Editorial mandates are part of the reason any creator not named Claremont ran away from the x-books for years.

Tennoarashi
03-19-2006, 10:19 AM
That Uncanny Annual just..... Yes.

YES!!!!

Now if only Barry Windsor-Smith were pencilling, but still - YES.

jeangreydp
03-19-2006, 10:35 AM
I'm sick of this Jean-less existence. :(

SUPERECWFAN1
03-19-2006, 11:47 AM
Nothing interesting to me really. I'd like to see Chamber and Jubilee brought back . But I'm not caring about Wolverine:Origin 2k6 ( version 2 now) because in another 5 years Quesada will change it again. ;)

The only things I'm happy and excited for are Uncanny , X-Men , New X-Men and Astonishing!

Porcelain
03-19-2006, 12:15 PM
Asked if Wolverine’s healing factor will ever evolve, the reader was told to “Read Wolverine Origins,” as the first story arc will deal with that issue.
If that involves self canibalism of any sort, I may be driven to severe anality and actuallly....[shock horror]...write in a 3pg essay on the finer points of idiocy.
Also no plans for Synch from Generation X.
Does this mean he's re er...alive in the here & now courtesy of 616? Or is it uncofirmed and just fan speculation at this point?
Quesada said there is, “No chance to get their powers back again,” asked about mutants depowered in House of M.
Er...he's seen the cover to Brubakers Uncanny right? Or are we going to get an Iceman-esque explanation?

Bit disappointing overall - from the new news viewpoint.

Brian M.
03-19-2006, 12:26 PM
I'm sick of this Jean-less existence. :(

STRIKE!? It really is, how a character with so much history and battle experience is just gone. I mean she's one of the Original's, she should be part of this team. She's such a better teacher than slutbag horse faced Emma.

Novaya Havoc
03-19-2006, 12:47 PM
She's such a better teacher than slutbag horse faced Emma.

... but we love our Emma Frost. :( We must reconcile the Jean-Emma rift. Hate Psylocke instead.

Affinity
03-19-2006, 12:53 PM
The thing about not a CHANCE (not a sliver, not an ounce) of possibility that the mutants will be getting their powers back...

Son of M? Wicked, Freakshow, Callisto, Quicksilver have all recieved their powers back...albeit amplified, but they are working, aren't they?

Faded
03-19-2006, 01:07 PM
WAIT!??!?!?!

Wicked and Freakshow too!?!??!?!??!? :D :D

Brian M.
03-19-2006, 01:10 PM
WAIT!??!?!?!

Wicked and Freakshow too!?!??!?!??!? :D :D

Go read the Son of M#5 thread

Absolut_Fresh
03-19-2006, 02:33 PM
I'm sick of this Jean-less existence. :(

me too...im about ready to jump ship on the x-books. i just have little to no interest without her in them in some shape or fashion. ive already cut back on x-related stuff...much longer and im gonna have to say byebye X-men after collecting them for over 15yrs. :(

Nyssane
03-19-2006, 03:24 PM
... but we love our Emma Frost. :( We must reconcile the Jean-Emma rift. Hate Psylocke instead.

*HISS* Benjamin, I lost all love for you.

TrickyDisco
03-19-2006, 03:59 PM
...I doubt Claremont would write Longshot, because when I asked him if he ever wants to write Longshot again, he said he would never write him without Nocenti's permission. I don't think they've been in touch for a long time...


I have to agree, I don't think anyone should write him, or any of the Mojoverse characters for that matter, without her permission. I still don't see why Longshot and the characters in his original miniseries became X-men canon for that matter. :confused: It's akin to how the original Matrix movie would have been much better on it's own than a trilogy-thing....

Oh, and don't even get me started on Shatterstar >_<

DDM
03-19-2006, 04:29 PM
I have to agree, I don't think anyone should write him, or any of the Mojoverse characters for that matter, without her permission. I still don't see why Longshot and the characters in his original miniseries became X-men canon for that matter. :confused: It's akin to how the original Matrix movie would have been much better on it's own than a trilogy-thing....

Oh, and don't even get me started on Shatterstar >_<

Ann Nocenti did not stop editing the X-books until late in 1988. Chris Claremont apparently likes Mojo, Spiral, & Longshot & gave them further exposure in Uncanny X-Men & The New Mutants. Claremont made Spiral a member of Freedom Force to play off Longshot in the X-Men. Longshot, being an X-Man, gave him a wider audience. Besides, Longshot, Spiral & Mojo are not creator owned; Marvel owns the characters. Therefore, any writer can write these characters so long he is being paid by Marvel.

Vegetarian Goat
03-19-2006, 04:39 PM
Marvel owns the characters. Therefore, any writer can write these characters so long he is being paid by Marvel.

Any writer can... but what i think they were getting at is if any writer should.

Bart Simpson
03-19-2006, 07:05 PM
How utterly disappointing. BRING HER BACK ALREADY DAMMIT :mad: :evilangry

Affinity
03-19-2006, 07:15 PM
What are you in such a rush for? :P

jawbreaker
03-19-2006, 08:27 PM
Asked about Chamber’s status, Marvel said it’s not going to be dealt with very soon, but that they’re certain they’re going to revisit Chamber at some point.
my hope- when Vaughan takes over Astonishing after Whedom leaves. Oh wouldnt that be sweet.... :D

Affinity
03-19-2006, 08:30 PM
That's the one writer I wouldn't mind taking over the title. In fact, he should. I wanna see him write Emma!

jawbreaker
03-19-2006, 08:56 PM
Comixfans info regarding Chamber is slightly different :

Fans of Chamber were informed that the character will be touched upon in the future, and he won't be left as a vegetable.

so...at least he's getting out of that hospital....

Faded
03-19-2006, 09:03 PM
Comixfans info regarding Chamber is slightly different :

Fans of Chamber were informed that the character will be touched upon in the future, and he won't be left as a vegetable.

so...at least he's getting out of that hospital....

I'm pessimistic regarding Gen X.

I'm guessing they're pulling the plug. :(

Beast
03-19-2006, 09:03 PM
Comixfans info regarding Chamber is slightly different :

Fans of Chamber were informed that the character will be touched upon in the future, and he won't be left as a vegetable.

so...at least he's getting out of that hospital....
Well, killing him is one way to avoid leaving him as a vegetable. :(

Faded
03-19-2006, 09:04 PM
That's the one writer I wouldn't mind taking over the title. In fact, he should. I wanna see him write Emma!

Oh my gooshness, I'm enjoying Whedon but I constantly think about the possibilities of a good replacement. Unfortunately, I don't think most of my wishes could materialize.

Brian M.
03-19-2006, 10:47 PM
Oh my gooshness, I'm enjoying Whedon but I constantly think about the possibilities of a good replacement. Unfortunately, I don't think most of my wishes could materialize.

Well unless they have a new superstar writer signed or another TV writer lined up it might be Loeb or another big big name writer. I honestly wish it would just end and merge the casts through out. Cyclops and Beast go w/ Iceman and Angel, wherever Angel goes, Emma as a revolving cast member like Wolverine and Kitty and Colossus somewhere together.

lonesomefool
03-20-2006, 05:39 AM
Yeah, I have to agree about ending the series, it's Joss Whedon and John Cassadys baby, I understand WHY it would continue, it makes a ton of money, but it would have to be one hell of a team to make me stay past Whedon and Cassady.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-20-2006, 05:45 AM
Yeah, I have to agree about ending the series, it's Joss Whedon and John Cassadys baby, I understand WHY it would continue, it makes a ton of money, but it would have to be one hell of a team to make me stay past Whedon and Cassady.

True, money is the arguament. But if the book doesn't get as high a hyped person as Whedon as a replacement it will soon drop off from the financial high it has enjoyed so far.

fishtaco
03-20-2006, 06:22 AM
Yeah, I have to agree about ending the series, it's Joss Whedon and John Cassadys baby, I understand WHY it would continue, it makes a ton of money, but it would have to be one hell of a team to make me stay past Whedon and Cassady.So does that mean that X-Men (1st Series) should have been cancelled when Stan Lee left the book at issue 19? Should X-Factor (1st Series) have been cancelled when Bob Layton left the book at issue 4?

The Sword Is Drawn
03-20-2006, 06:37 AM
So does that mean that X-Men (1st Series) should have been cancelled when Stan Lee left the book at issue 19? Should X-Factor (1st Series) have been cancelled when Bob Layton left the book at issue 4?

No, but Astonishing is very different to the other X-Books.

It's the book that pulled in people from outside Comics, because it was written by I high profile name from TV and Film.

Unless Marvel can find somebody else who fits that kind of brief it will just be another X-Book. Whedon is the title's chief selling point.

LordGorto
03-20-2006, 08:42 AM
Unless Marvel can find somebody else who fits that kind of brief it will just be another X-Book. Whedon is the title's chief selling point.

Maybe... Whedon is a draw, but the story, not the name is what pulls me in. If there's a writer/artist combo that can consistently tell a great story like Whedon/Cassaday can, then keep it going.
Otherwise, end it, and let it stand as a brief moment of glory in the X-Men's history that other creative teams will have to live up to.

bfrank
03-20-2006, 12:14 PM
. Complaining about the numbering of the annuals? Sweet mother of Gloria Estefan.


i was thinking "that's as stupid as crying about pink hair".....

Beast
03-20-2006, 12:23 PM
i was thinking "that's as stupid as crying about pink hair".....
Zing! Point for bfrank. :)

zonzorp
03-20-2006, 12:32 PM
Maybe... Whedon is a draw, but the story, not the name is what pulls me in. If there's a writer/artist combo that can consistently tell a great story like Whedon/Cassaday can, then keep it going.
Otherwise, end it, and let it stand as a brief moment of glory in the X-Men's history that other creative teams will have to live up to.
Astonishing is a "brief moment of glory"?
Glory isn't what it used to be.

jarrod
03-20-2006, 12:50 PM
Astonishing is a "brief moment of glory"?
Glory isn't what it used to be.
No kidding. I wouldn't exactly call 3 storylines stretched over nearly as many years "brief" either...

jawbreaker
03-20-2006, 08:31 PM
Well, killing him is one way to avoid leaving him as a vegetable. :(

I'm pessimistic regarding Gen X.

I'm guessing they're pulling the plug.

oh they wouldnt, THEY WOULDNT!!! they just killed off Banshee...forcryinoutloud!

:(

they BETTER not! :mad: