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The Master Meglomaniac
03-18-2006, 09:35 PM
What is the most drawn out story in fiction?
Guts/Batman
03-18-2006, 09:41 PM
Infinite Crisis!!!
Chocolove
03-18-2006, 09:45 PM
What is the most drawn out story in fiction?
X-Men: The End
Dalak
03-18-2006, 09:55 PM
The Wheel of TIme, I like it but I mean COME ON!!!!!
Fallman
03-18-2006, 09:55 PM
Well, what do you expect? Do you know how long it takes to kill even one X-man, permanently?
Altraferne
03-18-2006, 09:57 PM
Inuyasha. Rumiko-san, there're these things called endings. You need them, badly.
Guts/Batman
03-18-2006, 09:58 PM
I think we need to have two different settings here:
A) Drawn out badly (Crappily told story that shouldn't have taken this long to tell)
B) Drawn out well (Well told story that takes awhile)
The Dog
03-18-2006, 10:06 PM
The Full Metal Alchemist anime. I mean 51 whole episodes! :p
But seriously, I've got to say that the most drawn-out stories belong to Dragon Ball Z anime. I like the show, but DAMN they take a long-assed time to get anything done.
The Z movies get things over with in less than an hour most of the time, giving us a plot, giving us action, and giving us a conclusion.
The movies do in under an hour what it takes the show several dozen episodes to do.
Guts/Batman
03-18-2006, 10:08 PM
But seriously, I've got to say that the most drawn-out stories belong to Dragon Ball Z anime. I like the show, but DAMN they take a long-assed time to get anything done.
Yup.
Post-Cell Games sagas last about 8 volumes in the manga. In the anime it goes at least 75 episodes.
Altraferne
03-18-2006, 10:11 PM
Yup.
Post-Cell Games sagas last about 8 volumes in the manga. In the anime it goes at least 75 episodes.
Yeah, the Buu saga some a little over 100 episodes long. Granted it told a lot of story but there are things that can be cut for time's sake. I'm with everybody who thinks it takes too long to power up.
nihil_domini
03-18-2006, 10:19 PM
I know everyone will kill me for these but:
Gungrave
The Lord Of The Rings
4 chapters! 4 friggin' chapters of running over fields chasing after the Uruk Hai that took the hobbits! Ok, I haven't read it in a while so I'm not sure if it was actually 4 chapters, but it DID take a pretty ridiculous amount of time.
Guts/Batman
03-18-2006, 10:25 PM
With the Lord of the Rings that there is so much character work that the plot in and of itself is not very important when compared to the characters. The characters make the story, not the other way around. *glares at DC*
For the Lord of the Rings, it is necessary for the books to be as long as they are. If you didn't you wouldn't have the depth of character that you do in the book.
For example, if you only watched the movie, you would never get the sense from exactly how much of a toll that the One Ring was having on Frodo. In the book, he makes in painfully clear.
And it's not that bad. It's only like 30 pages a chapter. It could be a lot worse than it was.
90'sCartoonMan
03-18-2006, 10:39 PM
I think we need to have two different settings here:
A) Drawn out badly (Crappily told story that shouldn't have taken this long to tell)
B) Drawn out well (Well told story that takes awhile)
A) Spider-Man's Clone Saga (that thing JUST. WOULDN'T. END!)
B) "The Why of Fry" on Futurama, set up in the pilot, explained four seasons later
JonathanMS
03-18-2006, 11:18 PM
Sledgehammer. The last episode of it said that it was to be continued next season. That was during the late '80s :D !
Darth Joker
03-18-2006, 11:42 PM
With the Lord of the Rings that there is so much character work that the plot in and of itself is not very important when compared to the characters. The characters make the story, not the other way around. *glares at DC*
For the Lord of the Rings, it is necessary for the books to be as long as they are. If you didn't you wouldn't have the depth of character that you do in the book.
For example, if you only watched the movie, you would never get the sense from exactly how much of a toll that the One Ring was having on Frodo. In the book, he makes in painfully clear.
And it's not that bad. It's only like 30 pages a chapter. It could be a lot worse than it was.
Agreed. I would consider LotR to be an example of something that is drawn out well. And yes, the characters make the story, and yes, DC could learn something from Tolkien. ;)
Alpha to Omega
03-19-2006, 12:27 AM
All-Star Batman & Robin. Three issues and there still in the freaking car.
The Real Nemo
03-19-2006, 12:33 AM
The Mibu Clan storyline in Samurai Deeper Kyo is up there. I like it for the most part, but 28 volumes spent on just one story is pretty extreme...
There is a series of novels called "Earth's Children," that follows the exploits of a paleolithic woman called Ayla. Believe it or not, the series hasn't ended yet, not even after a decade. The author is actually quite old, ad so the story may never end. *cue Kansai univrse-a-splode:evilsmile *
MKTerra
03-19-2006, 12:49 AM
Was the Thousand and One Nights all one ongoing tale? :)
Btw, does "most drawn out story in fiction" mean the criteria is a story from a fictional universe, as opposed to a real-world work of fiction?
Smokeyjay
03-19-2006, 01:09 AM
Lol DBZ anime.
I remember I was 14 and me and my friends loved that show.
But looking back, I just had to laugh. When Goku was training in his space ship headed to Frieza, it took like a 100 episodes.
It was basically a 100 episodes of Goku lifting weights, grunting, and sweating. But me and my friends never missed that show. I would rush home from school, only to be disappointed to see Goku still working out in his spaceship. And this went on for months.
And when Goku finally landed on the planet, it was like having sex for the first time. It was like we were there working out with Goku, and all that hard training finally paid off.
They should have ended after the Frieza saga.
I heard "The Wheel of Time" was also never-ending.
KnockBlock
03-19-2006, 01:26 AM
Can you spell N-A-R-U-T-O? It like goes on forever. I hate the way its drag out. When they do flashbacks after another and how the characters go on about their melodramatic bs gets pretty ho-hum. Naruto at times is showing that isn't even worth going as long as it is.
Kraah
03-19-2006, 01:38 AM
Chiyo and Sakura vs Sasori,
God.
"I'm going to attack you... in the next chapter.. maybe..."
"Oh? Well I will pull out a surprising move that will counter your attack.. in a few chapters... maybe.."
"Hah! I still have some more surprising moves that will counter yours! In you know..."
"Yeah, a few chapters... maybe..."
Smokeyjay
03-19-2006, 01:56 AM
Deathnote.
I gave up on that manga after the appearance of M and N. It would be like 30 pages of dialogue analyzing every possible move that the guys arch rival could make.
It was good until L died. Afterwards, I felt like it was just repeating itself now.
Darth Joker
03-19-2006, 06:22 AM
Lol DBZ anime.
I remember I was 14 and me and my friends loved that show.
But looking back, I just had to laugh. When Goku was training in his space ship headed to Frieza, it took like a 100 episodes.
It was basically a 100 episodes of Goku lifting weights, grunting, and sweating. But me and my friends never missed that show. I would rush home from school, only to be disappointed to see Goku still working out in his spaceship. And this went on for months.
And when Goku finally landed on the planet, it was like having sex for the first time. It was like we were there working out with Goku, and all that hard training finally paid off.
They should have ended after the Frieza saga.
I heard "The Wheel of Time" was also never-ending.
You wouldn't believe how rewarding it was to see Goku absolutely smoke Racoome in one episode after all that training. The fact that you saw it coming made it that much better. One of the true 'badass' moments of DBZ.
Kid Kamikaze10
03-19-2006, 06:40 AM
A) hmm... Drawn out badly....... DBZ. I love the show and all, but each important event had 2-7 episodes of build up. One of two reasons why I like the movies more. Faster pace, and Brolli.
B) Infinite Crisis has been one of the greatest stories I have ever read. Though it has lasted for 2 years, they have been enjoyable years. DC is really stepping their game up, and they will step it up even more when 52 arrives.
Cleric of Hell's Brigade
03-19-2006, 06:48 AM
The Wheel of TIme, I like it but I mean COME ON!!!!!
I see your Wheel of Time series and I raise you the Sword of Truth series.
Richard, just kill everyone's ass already, okay?
Eternal Torment
03-19-2006, 06:55 AM
There is a series of novels called "Earth's Children," that follows the exploits of a paleolithic woman called Ayla. Believe it or not, the series hasn't ended yet, not even after a decade. The author is actually quite old, ad so the story may never end. *cue Kansai univrse-a-splode:evilsmile *
I remember that series.It was written by Jean Auel.I own one of the books,and let me tell you,there is a LOT of "action",if you get what I am saying ;)
The Dog
03-19-2006, 06:56 AM
Lol DBZ anime.
I remember I was 14 and me and my friends loved that show.
But looking back, I just had to laugh. When Goku was training in his space ship headed to Frieza, it took like a 100 episodes.
It was basically a 100 episodes of Goku lifting weights, grunting, and sweating. But me and my friends never missed that show. I would rush home from school, only to be disappointed to see Goku still working out in his spaceship. And this went on for months.
And when Goku finally landed on the planet, it was like having sex for the first time. It was like we were there working out with Goku, and all that hard training finally paid off.
They should have ended after the Frieza saga.
I heard "The Wheel of Time" was also never-ending.
You people exaggerate the amount of episodes it took to do something in DBZ. It didn't take him anywhere near 100 episodes to get there. No, it took 5, maybe 6 episodes. Which is still too damn long.
But its nowhere near 100.
Darth Joker
03-19-2006, 07:02 AM
You people exaggerate the amount of episodes it took to do something in DBZ. It didn't take him anywhere near 100 episodes to get there. No, it took 5, maybe 6 episodes. Which is still too damn long.
But its nowhere near 100.
Well, the Goku vs. Frieza fight (the actual fight) genuinely was a solid 20 episodes or more, I'm sure.
The whole saga certainly seemed like 100 episodes.
The Buu saga was the worst, though. Thank Heaven Hercule was there for sheer comedic relief... and I mean RELIEF. :D
The Dog
03-19-2006, 07:11 AM
Well, the Goku vs. Frieza fight (the actual fight) genuinely was a solid 20 episodes or more, I'm sure.
The whole saga certainly seemed like 100 episodes.
The Buu saga was the worst, though. Thank Heaven Hercule was there for sheer comedic relief... and I mean RELIEF. :D
The trip to Namek and battle between Frieza and his minions vs. everyone else was around 60 or so episodes.
The Cell and Buu sagas were around 80-90 each. And yes, the Buu Saga just. Wouldn't. END. I quit watching around the time they killed off all the other Z Fighters but Piccolo both the full-blooded Saiyans and their half-Saiyan groin spawns. Oh, and Mr. Satan and Dende I believe.
But yeah, I just stopped giving a fuck when Buu wiped out all the other Z-Fighters with one swoop, telling us EXACTLY how Toriyama or the company that created DBZ feels about them. Idiot cannon fodder.
Though they may have a bit of Krillin Love, seeing as how he attempted to fight Buu to protect his family and friends. Fat load of good it did'em.
Naraku
03-19-2006, 07:15 AM
Well, the Goku vs. Frieza fight (the actual fight) genuinely was a solid 20 episodes or more, I'm sure.
The whole saga certainly seemed like 100 episodes.
The Buu saga was the worst, though. Thank Heaven Hercule was there for sheer comedic relief... and I mean RELIEF. :D
The fight of Z-Fighters against Freeza was 30 episodes.
Darth Joker
03-19-2006, 07:18 AM
The fight against Freeza was 30 episodes.
You see, that's just wrong.
I don't care if you have the best one-on-one fight in existence... 30 episodes is just too long.
Still, I suppose in fairness, it made a lot of business sense for DBZ. More episodes equals more cash. I find Goku to be a very appealling protagonist, and most of his antagonists are genuinely guys that you love to hate.
Cleric of Hell's Brigade
03-19-2006, 07:19 AM
Though I do enjoy reading it, I feel the Ranma 1/2 story line drug on and on.
Sorry, but over 1/2 of the entire manga was small, often times silly storylines that didn't have any sort of bearing on the actual plot at all. I mean, is there a reason in the over all plot for a mirror image of Ranma's female half to fall in love with his true male half?
The answer: No, not really.
Ranma is packed with excess storylines and packaging that sometimes, to me, made the actuall story less fun.
Now, certain side stories are pretty good and funny. I liked the one where Mousse was dating that animated statue that he thought was Shampoo. I liked it becuase it also showed Mousse gettng some training and becoming stronger, which can then reflect lalter in the main plot.
In the end, I fell like Rumiko Takahashi didn't quite know what she wanted out of Ranma 1/2 altogether, and just kind of shot from the hip on part of it. Especially the ending.
Darth Joker
03-19-2006, 07:26 AM
Though I do enjoy reading it, I feel the Ranma 1/2 story line drug on and on.
Sorry, but over 1/2 of the entire manga was small, often times silly storylines that didn't have any sort of bearing on the actual plot at all. I mean, is there a reason in the over all plot for a mirror image of Ranma's female half to fall in love with his true male half?
I actually liked that episode. I liked the psychological potential of it. My only disappointment is that they never followed up on it which did make it kind of useless, yeah. The idea of Ranma's male half fantasizing about his female half, and his female half having 'hot flashes' over his male half... a really good writer could make gold out of that.
Ranma is packed with excess storylines and packaging that sometimes, to me, made the actuall story less fun.
It was fairly heavy on 'filler episodes', yeah. Ranma was exceptionally good for a show with virtually no notable villians. Ranma had antagonists, but nobody who was a genuine villian (Kuno and his dad came close, but not quite).
Now, certain side stories are pretty good and funny. I liked the one where Mousse was dating that animated statue that he thought was Shampoo. I liked it becuase it also showed Mousse gettng some training and becoming stronger, which can then reflect lalter in the main plot.
In the end, I fell like Rumiko Takahashi didn't quite know what she wanted out of Ranma 1/2 altogether, and just kind of shot from the hip on part of it. Especially the ending.
My main disappointment (with the TV show) is that they didn't resolve a signal one of the romantic plots, or subplots. They just left them all hanging. I would of perferred a bit more of a resolution.
Cleric of Hell's Brigade
03-19-2006, 07:33 AM
I actually liked that episode. I liked the psychological potential of it. My only disappointment is that they never followed up on it which did make it kind of useless, yeah. The idea of Ranma's male half fantasizing about his female half, and his female half having 'hot flashes' over his male half... a really good writer could make gold out of that.
It was fairly heavy on 'filler episodes', yeah. Ranma was exceptionally good for a show with virtually no notable villians. Ranma had antagonists, but nobody who was a genuine villian (Kuno and his dad came close, but not quite).
My main disappointment (with the TV show) is that they didn't resolve a signal one of the romantic plots, or subplots. They just left them all hanging. I would of perferred a bit more of a resolution.
Oh, I agree. A talented writer could have done something with that.
But Takahashi didn't. It was like she just randomly threw it out there, did 50 pages on it, and forgot it ever happened. See, no real bearing to the over all plot, huh?
Now, if for some reason Ranma's mirrored curse half was a permanent thing, THAT could have lead somewhere interesting, you know?
Naraku
03-19-2006, 07:38 AM
Takahashi like to go on and on in her series. Ranma and Inuyasha are good examples of this.
Cleric of Hell's Brigade
03-19-2006, 07:43 AM
Takahashi like to go on and on in her series. Ranma and Inuyasha are good examples of this.
True.
I watch Inuyasha rather sporadically, but the sad thing is, even when I miss about 10 to 15 episodes in a row, I can then watch the next episode and know pretty much exactly what's going on, over all plot wise. Because things, plot wise, haven't changed since I watched it last.
Why? Becuase Inuyasha, while I do love it, takes forever to get anything done in the major plot department it seems.
Altraferne
03-19-2006, 07:53 AM
True.
I watch Inuyasha rather sporadically, but the sad thing is, even when I miss about 10 to 15 episodes in a row, I can then watch the next episode and know pretty much exactly what's going on, over all plot wise. Because things, plot wise, haven't changed since I watched it last.
Why? Becuase Inuyasha, while I do love it, takes forever to get anything done in the major plot department it seems.
See my earlier comment about Rumiko-san and endings. I think she's got some sort of pathological aversion to them.
Naraku
03-19-2006, 08:04 AM
See my earlier comment about Rumiko-san and endings. I think she's got some sort of pathological aversion to them.
I am very afraid of this. I like Inuyasha and i don't want the manga to have a crap ending.
lonewolf23k
03-19-2006, 05:12 PM
Captain SNES.
...Go on, prove me wrong..
Gilda Dent
03-19-2006, 05:25 PM
On television, perhaps Babylon 5. It was concieved and executed, or so I'm told, as a single, five-season, 100-hour story. Not having seen it all (I bailed out after the first five or six episodes), I can't confirm this, that it's one big story, but if so, I'd say that it's up there.
In sci-fi, L. Ron Hubbard's Mission Earth series, ten large novel length books to tell a single story, about six to seven thousand pages would be up there.
If you join together Asimov's Robots/Galactic Empire/Foundation stories, you're looking at a huge continuous universe, but they're reall a bunch of connected stories, not one big one.
Gilda
Spike-X
03-19-2006, 05:27 PM
Cerebus, anyone?
Noah Johnson
03-19-2006, 06:33 PM
Buncha damn geeks around here...
Remembrance of Things Past? Umpteen thousand pages to eat a damn cookie?
Michael P
03-19-2006, 07:33 PM
Captain SNES.
...Go on, prove me wrong..
It's not so much drawn out as he only updates it when the stars are in alignment.
David O Burcham
03-19-2006, 08:04 PM
The movie Stepmom. My ex forced me to watch it five years ago and I still don't think the flick has ended.
Guts/Batman
03-19-2006, 08:09 PM
B) Infinite Crisis has been one of the greatest stories I have ever read. Though it has lasted for 2 years, they have been enjoyable years. DC is really stepping their game up, and they will step it up even more when 52 arrives.
Infinite Crisis is just a lot of filler with meaningless death and character assassination. There's almost nothing meaningful going on. And they lied about it, which makes it even more special...
They just look like they are doing something.
I don't think they are stepping their game up. They are bringing it back down by trying too hard.
Mike Smith
03-19-2006, 08:17 PM
You see, that's just wrong.
I don't care if you have the best one-on-one fight in existence... 30 episodes is just too long.
Still, I suppose in fairness, it made a lot of business sense for DBZ. More episodes equals more cash. I find Goku to be a very appealling protagonist, and most of his antagonists are genuinely guys that you love to hate.
Well, what is a fight unless you stare at each other and grunt, in one hour intervals, measuring each other powelevels and using internal monologue.
What is a fight if after this, you dont' reflect back to a time when you were training when you were "dead" for a second time followed by being shocked when the guy across from you shoots an energy ball while you were daydreaming and grunting.
The energy should properly take an episode to build up and make it across the screen, as you monologue about "how can a guy of his limited power create such a move."
Of course, the guy shooting said energy ball must monologue about he is not even at full power and this should finish you off. Finally, he releases said energy shot only to find..."He's still standing there!!!" How could this be. Ohh, the other guy was hiding his power levels too.
Back to gruntint and staring....
Honestly, after about a few months of this, in addition to the fact that cartoon network would randomly repeat episodes or parts of other seasons for no good reason (in the middle of a grunting arc) I had it with this show as a yount teen.
Guts/Batman
03-19-2006, 08:27 PM
Well, what is a fight unless you stare at each other and grunt, in one hour intervals, measuring each other powelevels and using internal monologue.
This sounds like me...vs. the toilet.
Sabrinaset
03-19-2006, 08:42 PM
When I read Moby Dick, I thought that book would never end...
StoneGold
03-19-2006, 08:44 PM
The moon landing.
JolietJake
03-20-2006, 01:18 PM
4 pages in and no one's mentioned Stephen King's Dark Tower series?
An average of 4-5 years between publications... maybe not the most drawn-out but certainly worthy of mention.
Chiasm
03-20-2006, 03:38 PM
Anything written by Bendis.
Recent Ultimate Spidey for example.
It took four pages for Peter to walk up to his school while Mary Jane stared at him and he ignored her. Panel after panel after panel of the same effect. Then Kitty shows up and we get more pages of the staring / walking up to the school stuff. Could have been done just as effectively in three panels.
tricksterpup
03-20-2006, 03:53 PM
The moon landing.
Hmmm.. for me it was about this guy who had a crush on this Cute Russian girl who worked at subway. That story just went on for ever... how people gave him advice and well, you know how that goes, its a gift always given but never taken.
Melchior
03-20-2006, 04:40 PM
There is a series of novels called "Earth's Children," that follows the exploits of a paleolithic woman called Ayla. Believe it or not, the series hasn't ended yet, not even after a decade. The author is actually quite old, ad so the story may never end. *cue Kansai univrse-a-splode:evilsmile *
Actually, I checked. The first book came out in 1980, which puts it 26-years-old, so far. The author is presumably still writing.
Wannabe
03-20-2006, 05:18 PM
I'm sure somebody has said this, but Bone. That guy took ten years to get back home. He should gone google maps.
Justin D.
03-20-2006, 05:24 PM
If we're just talking about comics, then I nominate the identity of the third Summers brother. I've read very few X-Men comics, but I know that this has been a drawn-out mystery for some time now.
In prose fiction, I'll have to say Frankenstein. I remember really not liking that book and wondering often how much longer I had to go before it was over.
Corrina
03-20-2006, 07:06 PM
Pick any long-running American soap opera.
I think "Days of Our Lives," for instance, goes way back to the black & white days of television.
GammaPro
03-20-2006, 07:11 PM
I see your Wheel of Time series and I raise you the Sword of Truth series.
Richard, just kill everyone's ass already, okay?
No kidding. I still like the WoT, at least. But, SoT? It's become nothing more than a platform for Goodkind's beliefs.
Kid Kamikaze10
03-20-2006, 07:20 PM
Infinite Crisis is just a lot of filler with meaningless death and character assassination. There's almost nothing meaningful going on. And they lied about it, which makes it even more special...
They just look like they are doing something.
I don't think they are stepping their game up. They are bringing it back down by trying too hard.
Your opinion man. Your jaded opinion...........
Nercm
10-01-2008, 12:56 PM
and the answer is .....any dragon ball Z show and naruto. I've lost patience with those shows. People power up for 20 minutes while there enemies stand there in awe...
Kid Kamikaze10
10-01-2008, 12:59 PM
Your opinion man. Your jaded opinion...........
Wow...
I used to sound like an idiot...
howyadoin
10-01-2008, 01:03 PM
and the answer is .....any dragon ball Z show and naruto.What a relief. I've been anxiously awaiting this answer for 2 years.
StoneGold
10-01-2008, 01:42 PM
Wow...
I used to sound like an idiot...
The obvious reply here being: Used to?
Pól Rua
10-01-2008, 03:54 PM
Buncha damn geeks around here...
Remembrance of Things Past? Umpteen thousand pages to eat a damn cookie?
I'll see your Remembrance of Things Past and raise you a Tristram Shandy.
Pól Rua
10-01-2008, 03:58 PM
Plus, seriously, y'all are talking comics and nobody has mentioned 'Tales of the Beanworld'?
Seriously.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_the_Beanworld
However, unlike Naruto, or Inu Yasha, or The Wheel of Time... Beanworld is worth waiting for.
Hoka Hoka Hey!
Ronald Bryan
10-01-2008, 04:29 PM
What a relief. I've been anxiously awaiting this answer for 2 years.
I can finally exhale that breath I've been holding.
howyadoin
10-01-2008, 04:31 PM
I can finally exhale that breath I've been holding.This must be the most drawn out thread in posting history.
Gilda Dent
10-01-2008, 05:58 PM
Ah, this one again.
Gasoline Alley has been running as a serialized, real time comic strip since the 1920's and is still going strong.
That's a story that's been running daily for closing in on ninety years now, more than 20,000 strips.
Alex Scott
10-01-2008, 07:32 PM
No one's mentioned Bleach's damn Soul Society arc? Made me stop reading Bleach, it did. Did we really need development for everyone in the damn Soul Society? Yeesh.
Really, it's the curse of Shonen Jump series. They start off great, but then the editors have it dragged out longer and longer to sell more volumes.
(In fairness to DBZ, though, it actually does flow much better in the manga. I read Shonen Jump US through the end of the Cell saga, and, I kid you not, thought "Wow, that just flew by." Still, you can tell there's a reason Akira Toriyama mostly does shorter series nowadays)
Now, what about drawn-out in a good way? Discworld, maybe? And in more fairness to Rumiko Takahashi, Maison Ikkoku is just about the right length (15 volumes).
And what about Akira and Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind? Didn't both take about a decade to finish? By which time, both had already been adapted into highly successful films that defined their creators' careers? Which reminds me, when the heck in Yoshiyuki Sadamoto supposed to finish Neon Genesis Evangelion? It was supposed to tie into the anime, ended up starting before the first episode aired, outlasted the entire series, the director's cut, the movies, and now the remake movies... but a new chapter of the manga only comes out every so often, so we're still waiting for v.'s 11 or 12.
howyadoin
10-01-2008, 07:37 PM
No one's mentioned Bleach's damn Soul Society arc? Made me stop reading Bleach, it did. Did we really need development for everyone in the damn Soul Society? Yeesh.
Really, it's the curse of Shonen Jump series. They start off great, but then the editors have it dragged out longer and longer to sell more volumes.
(In fairness to DBZ, though, it actually does flow much better in the manga. I read Shonen Jump US through the end of the Cell saga, and, I kid you not, thought "Wow, that just flew by." Still, you can tell there's a reason Akira Toriyama mostly does shorter series nowadays)
Now, what about drawn-out in a good way? Discworld, maybe? And in more fairness to Rumiko Takahashi, Maison Ikkoku is just about the right length (15 volumes).
And what about Akira and Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind? Didn't both take about a decade to finish? By which time, both had already been adapted into highly successful films that defined their creators' careers? Which reminds me, when the heck in Yoshiyuki Sadamoto supposed to finish Neon Genesis Evangelion? It was supposed to tie into the anime, ended up starting before the first episode aired, outlasted the entire series, the director's cut, the movies, and now the remake movies... but a new chapter of the manga only comes out every so often, so we're still waiting for v.'s 11 or 12.Just outta curiosity, why is it that manga fans always seem to assume that everybody else is a manga fan as well?
mattx110
10-01-2008, 07:37 PM
The Torah... we're still waiting on the Messiah.
Pól Rua
10-01-2008, 07:55 PM
Just outta curiosity, why is it that manga fans always seem to assume that everybody else is a manga fan as well?
I think the assumption that nothing else exists outside of manga is more annoying.
The Torah... we're still waiting on the Messiah.
That's fucking funny.
I can see God (played by Mel Brooks) backstage looking out through the curtain.
"Oy, they're starting to get moody. Where IS that messiah?"
"No word yet, boss. He's still on his way."
"This, I need like a hole in the head. Hey, you, hippie! Understudy! Go out and stall 'em for a bit."
mikekerr3
10-01-2008, 09:12 PM
EC Tubb's Dumarest of Terra: 50+ books over twenty plus years that never did reach an end, just faded into well deserved oblivion.
Kid Kamikaze10
10-01-2008, 09:17 PM
The obvious reply here being: Used to?
I walked into that one...
howyadoin
10-01-2008, 09:34 PM
I think the assumption that nothing else exists outside of manga is more annoying.I'd guess the two phenomena are not unrelated.
MacQuarrie
10-01-2008, 11:39 PM
I'm gonna say Harry Potter.
Rowling could really do with an editor. The last three books could have easily ditched about 30% of their pages without giving up anything of importance. Maybe she figured that as long as kids were reading them, she'd make the books big and heavy and get them to exercise a little while they were at it.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
10-02-2008, 12:33 AM
I can see God (played by Mel Brooks) backstage looking out through the curtain.
"Oy, they're starting to get moody. Where IS that messiah?"
"No word yet, boss. He's still on his way."
"This, I need like a hole in the head. Hey, you, hippie! Understudy! Go out and stall 'em for a bit."
And that's the true story behind how the Klaus Kinski Jesus Tour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBDEQe9CjOU) came about.
pariah-1972
10-02-2008, 04:54 AM
The Long Halloween -Batman
I would also say all the Star Wars movies since it took them 30 plus years to tell one story.
JDogindy
10-02-2008, 10:42 AM
Yup.
Post-Cell Games sagas last about 8 volumes in the manga. In the anime it goes at least 75 episodes.
That's what-you-call "filler". I do agree with the DBZ movies getting things done in the span of an hour, which works out well (I liked Garlic Jr. in "Dead Zone", but I sure didn't want to see him in the actual series in a filler storyline).
I especially hate it when you got a story that goes on damn long, only to lead to a rushed ending. That's beyond bull.
And, howyadoin, I'm not sure about the whole "manga readers believe everyone reads manga" thing. I read some manga (preferably comedy, although I will read some like Gundam for concept suggestions in artwork, like machines), but I wouldn't advise everyone to do so.
how long's Star Wars been going on for? Longest? I'm not sure, but it's been a while now...
Guapo Méndez
10-02-2008, 03:34 PM
Planetary.
Did they release the last issue?
Froggy
10-02-2008, 03:46 PM
Planetary.
Did they release the last issue?
I think so
i think they did
Guapo Méndez
10-02-2008, 03:47 PM
I think so
i think they did
There was one where they say Planetary cured cancer and was offering all of the Four's discoveries to the world.
Is that one it?
Froggy
10-02-2008, 03:52 PM
There was one where they say Planetary cured cancer and was offering all of the Four's discoveries to the world.
Is that one it?
yeah, pretty much
27 right?
cause that's the one i got
i like how the four were 'dleat' with at the end.dowling lmao
Guapo Méndez
10-02-2008, 04:04 PM
yeah, pretty much
27 right?
cause that's the one i got
i like how the four were 'dleat' with at the end.dowling lmao
No, that's #26.
#27 is still MIA.
Froggy
10-02-2008, 04:10 PM
No, that's #26.
#27 is still MIA.
oh
*goes to check issue #* you're right
how many years has it been?
Guapo Méndez
10-02-2008, 04:25 PM
oh
*goes to check issue #* you're right
how many years has it been?
Well, the series started in April 1999, so we're past the 9 year mark.
Pól Rua
10-02-2008, 06:10 PM
And, howyadoin, I'm not sure about the whole "manga readers believe everyone reads manga" thing. I read some manga (preferably comedy, although I will read some like Gundam for concept suggestions in artwork, like machines), but I wouldn't advise everyone to do so.
It's something I run into a LOT in the store where I work.
You get a LOT of anime/manga fans who:
(a) can't believe you don't watch/read (Insert Title Here).
(b) refuse to admit that there is a world outside (Insert Title Here).
These are also people who try and tell my (Japanese Speaking) boss what Japanese words and terms mean based SOLELY on what they've seen/read in manga/anime.
Spike-X
10-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Planetary.
Did they release the last issue?
According to Ellis, Cassaday's half way through drawing it.
So probably around Christmas.
2009.
Super Hero Guy
10-03-2008, 04:41 PM
The Woman in White. I had to read it for a first year college english class. Egads, does it take its sweet time to getting to the point (which isn't that exciting either). The only good thing is hte badass Count Fosco and Miss Mariane Halcombe, who were both 10 times more interesting than the actual leads.
Sean Walsh
10-03-2008, 06:09 PM
The Wheel of TIme, I like it but I mean COME ON!!!!!
And Jordan died before he could finish it.
Even Death couldn't wait for Wheel of Time to end!
JDogindy
10-04-2008, 08:28 AM
It's something I run into a LOT in the store where I work.
You get a LOT of anime/manga fans who:
(a) can't believe you don't watch/read (Insert Title Here).
(b) refuse to admit that there is a world outside (Insert Title Here).
These are also people who try and tell my (Japanese Speaking) boss what Japanese words and terms mean based SOLELY on what they've seen/read in manga/anime.
I knew a guy who kept telling me that Neon Genesis Evangelion was the best anime ever!
I hate Evangelion, and not just because of Shinji's emo whining: I consider the action to be subpar, the characters to be one-dimensional, and I find it weird that people like this depressing stuff.
But, since I'm such a nice guy, I just went along, and kept my views hidden.
And, still on the manga topic, I find it weird that some people just go around and complain that some people can't stand people who don't like certain manga or anime. So? We all don't have universal tastes, otakus.
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