How would you like to see Stormwatch:Ta finished

[Stellar]

so the writer got fired because he lied about being in the army and never got a chance to finish the story. it was one hell of a cliffhanger, i'll tell you that.

i suppose the best thing to do would to have one of the snipers take out the guy who controls the dead. the only threat then would be the senator. and of course that Gen-active who killed everyone (asuming he survived his little run in with Flint).

after that i think Project: Entry would be either modified or shut down

[borateen]

so the writer got fired because he lied about being in the army and never got a chance to finish the story. it was one hell of a cliffhanger, i'll tell you that.

i suppose the best thing to do would to have one of the snipers take out the guy who controls the dead. the only threat then would be the senator. and of course that Gen-active who killed everyone (asuming he survived his little run in with Flint).

after that i think Project: Entry would be either modified or shut down

I would have liked to have seen it end the way Micah intended. In one of his Lying in the Gutters columns, Rich Johnston posted the script for the final issue, which was the only issue that didn't see print. I thought it was excellent.

And despite what Wright did, I thought he was an excellent writer, and I was looking forward to following his Wildstorm/DC (he was supposed to be doing a Vigilante series) work.

[Stellar]

i agree, i was fascinated by his knowledge of militairy ops. hell, the guy found a way to compare a love for guns with sex for god's sake.

[hex111]

The script for #24 is still posted on Micah's website... you can download it in Adobe format if you want... just search "Micah Ian Wright" on google and it should just take you to it...

[Kid Monster]

STORMWATCH: TA was a really good "Post-superhero" comic, the kind of dark, political, post-modern take on spandex that was Wildstorm's forte @1999-2003. I'm very disapointed to see Wildstorm move away from that niche towards very vanilla fare like CAPTAIN ATOM. Captain Motherf**cking Atom. I really don't think DC knows what they have lost yet.

I, for one, think that Wright deserves a second chance in comics. Yes, the man did appear to be a pathological liar, but his punitive blackballing from comics seemed at the time to have more to do with political hysteria than any real damage to DC or Wildstorm. I don't want to get into a big debate about the morality of what he did (It was pretty low), respect for veterans (He seemed to have none), whether he could control it or was a victim of mental illness, etc., etc., etc. I think most people would agree that the past few years of total exile from the industry have been punishment enough.

[hex111]

STORMWATCH: TA was a really good "Post-superhero" comic, the kind of dark, political, post-modern take on spandex that was Wildstorm's forte @1999-2003. I'm very disapointed to see Wildstorm move away from that niche towards very vanilla fare like CAPTAIN ATOM. Captain Motherf**cking Atom. I really don't think DC knows what they have lost yet.

Yep... that's all I have to say...

I, for one, think that Wright deserves a second chance in comics. Yes, the man did appear to be a pathological liar, but his punitive blackballing from comics seemed at the time to have more to do with political hysteria than any real damage to DC or Wildstorm. I don't want to get into a big debate about the morality of what he did (It was pretty low), respect for veterans (He seemed to have none), whether he could control it or was a victim of mental illness, etc., etc., etc. I think most people would agree that the past few years of total exile from the industry have been punishment enough.

He also has been semi-blacklisted from hollywood too... he (I believe) was fired from his NicKelodeon gigs as well... I honestly don't know if he is doing any work outside of propogranda... I think that most of his video game stuff got canned before production actually started...

[Stellar]

damn, for one lie?
i have to agree with Kid Monster, i don't know why wildstorm moved away from the post-superhero theme. i loved the way they integrated old characters like Santini into more darker stories. but then again, they might be under pressure from DC

[hex111]

damn, for one lie?

No... his issues in hollywood were on the creative side (from what I understand)... though I think I used the term "blacklisted" a bit prematurely... last I heard, he just wasn't getting much work (if any at all)... hollywood doesn't really care much about scandal (as we all know) manily because for a writer, his name appears in the credits for about 2 seconds... not stamped on the front of a book where it can be seen for all time...

[Strannik]

damn, for one lie?
i have to agree with Kid Monster, i don't know why wildstorm moved away from the post-superhero theme. i loved the way they integrated old characters like Santini into more darker stories. but then again, they might be under pressure from DC

That and the fact that, in spite of the quality of the stories, they just weren't selling very well (http://www.newsarama.com/Wildstorm2/preview/WS_Future.htm).

Personally, I wouldn't give up on Wildstorm's "post-superhero" comics just yet. Even if they did sell relatively poorly, one doesn't have to look far to see their influences of more "mainstream" comics. Besides, with Grant Morrison at the helm, I think we have a good reason to hope that the relaunch of WSU won't entail return to bland, ordinary superheroics.

As for Stormwatch:TA, I think that we can wait a couple of years until the contorversy dies down. Events of issue #24 affectively allow a writer to pick up the story whever he or she wants.

[josh straightedge]

And despite what Wright did, I thought he was an excellent writer, and I was looking forward to following his Wildstorm/DC (he was supposed to be doing a Vigilante series) work.

And while being dishonest about his life is the big negative on him, he was an excellent writer and Team Achilles was a wonderful read every month. And in an industry where companies steal characters from creators and such, this is a small wrong.

If he comes back to comics, I'd give whatever he wrote a chance.

[the goddamn batman]

it is not a small wrong. It is a huge wrong. I'm sorry your series got cancled, that sucks, but I've seen it happen for less. F#ck that guy, and his bullsh!t lies, he should NEVER be allowed back in comics. If you have knowledge enough to write the way he did, why did he need to lie about it, and continue to lie about it. F#ck that guy, soldiers give their lives for their beliefs, thats not something to take lightly, even if you disagree with the politics involved.

rant over.

it was a good series, but what he did is just an insult.

[hex111]

it is not a small wrong. It is a huge wrong. I'm sorry your series got cancled, that sucks, but I've seen it happen for less. F#ck that guy, and his bullsh!t lies, he should NEVER be allowed back in comics. If you have knowledge enough to write the way he did, why did he need to lie about it, and continue to lie about it. F#ck that guy, soldiers give their lives for their beliefs, thats not something to take lightly, even if you disagree with the politics involved.

rant over.

it was a good series, but what he did is just an insult.

I agree, but I don't think that it was right what DC did to the fans by NOT releasing issue 24... it was bad enough that they were f*cked over by a writer they trusted and really supported... and then it got worse by finding out that the book was being cancelled... and then the final insult to the fans was to just plain NOT release the final issue even though they had it in the can...

I mean, 3 wrongs don't make a right, even to prove a damn point to a writer that they got dicked over by... because in the end, it was the fans that got screwed...

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

I, for one, think that Wright deserves a second chance in comics. Yes, the man did appear to be a pathological liar, but his punitive blackballing from comics seemed at the time to have more to do with political hysteria than any real damage to DC or Wildstorm. I don't want to get into a big debate about the morality of what he did (It was pretty low), respect for veterans (He seemed to have none), whether he could control it or was a victim of mental illness, etc., etc., etc. I think most people would agree that the past few years of total exile from the industry have been punishment enough.

Or maybe because of his lies, they just don't like him or respect or really want to work with him.

I'd be happy if he never got to write another thing in his life - but then again, I disliked his attitude before he got exposed as a fraud.

[Agentum]

What did he say or pretend?

I don't know any of this so i'm a little curious why i writer gets kicked out because of a lie?

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

What did he say or pretend?

I don't know any of this so i'm a little curious why i writer gets kicked out because of a lie?

He started telling everyone he served in the marines, and saw action and such.
Thing is, he everything he wrote is military based, and the selling point to the reader (and I assume the comapnies) is that it's more authentic because he knew.
He'd talk about his service in interviews, when asked by fans, and to the people he worked with.
He even wrote about it in an intro to Queen and Country, writing about how he knew how authentic the book was due to his time in service etc.

It was his gimmick.

What made it worse, was that when he got busted, he kept on lying about when he started lying.

Before that though he was mainly famous for whinging about how stupid the companies were for not accepting his propsals.

[Stellar]

The Goddamn Batman and Hex111 have both raised interesting arguments. yes, the man lied and made a mockery of everything soldiers stand for. but does that give the publisher the right to leave the readers hanging? sure, the script was posted, but still, it's not as good as giving the readers the actual book.

[Kid Monster]

What did he say or pretend?

I don't know any of this so i'm a little curious why i writer gets kicked out because of a lie?

He had a decades-long web of lies, claiming to have been a decorated special forces Army Ranger who fought (and saw atrocities by American forces) in Panama, and to have conducted covert black ops elsewhere. He actively promoted himself as comic's "Black ops military expert". In truth, Wright's only military experience was a brief stint in college ROTC.

The whole thing was always sorta fishy-sounding, but was no big deal... until Wright came out very strongly against Bush and the invasion of Iraq, and then several conservative blogs (rightly) nailed his ass to the wall. His reaction was pathetic, first sticking to his lies even in the face of hard evidence (his black ops ninja kill squad was so secret, you see, that no record of it existed), then claiming that it was all a joke that got out of hand, and that he could not have admited the truth earlier because crazed conservative fanatics would have murdered him for it.

Many liberals also turned their backs on Wright, feeling his deceptions discredited the anti-war movement. Wright had formed a friendship with celebrated author and WWII vet Kurt Vonnegut, Jr., based around being "Fellow veterans" against the war. Vonnegut, who is a very big name in mainstream literature, had even mentioned Wright in a few of his essays, a major coup for a young writer. One can only imagine the betrayal Vonnegut, a former POW and survivor of the Dresden firebombing, felt.

All of theses accusations and Wright's bizarre response unfolded, for the most part, on internet message boards, and most if not all of it is probably still online, if you are really curious. As a result, Wright was fired and blackballed for life from DC/Wildstorm, and the completed final issue of STORMWATCH never saw print. He had also completed at least one script for a very gritty, mature-readers Wildstorm revamp of VIGILANTE that was already controversial within the DC offices due to it's political storyline (dealing with a corrupt millionaire and his unsafe steel foundry... I daresay it wouldn't have raised a single eybrow in any other president's administration). This project was immediately scrapped. The scripts for both issues used to be online, but I haven't checked lately. The VIGILANTE script was excellent, and is well worth checking out.

I still belive, however, that his firing had more to do with war hysteria than any real damage to DC/Wildstorm, and that enough time has passed for him to be "rehabilitated", so to say. Obviously, some intelligent and decent people strongly disagree, and with solid reasons. It frankly would not surprise me if Wright was working in comics right now under a pen name (Chuck Austen claims that DC offered him a "Work for us, but only under another name" contract after his unpopular ACTION COMICS run, so there is a recent precident.).

EDITED to correct lots of spelling errors. :o

[Agentum]

ah ok, worse than i thougt.
Just lie that you have been in the army doesn't matter much, you only look stupid when they find out you lied.
But to lie to people and build the relationship on this lie is much worse, i can understand people being very dissapointed with him.

He was of course not hired because he hd been in the military so i don't think it have made any diffrence at all for Wildstorm.