View Full Version : What is Ms. Marvel?
Effect
03-14-2006, 09:31 PM
Is she a mutant, alien, powers gifted from the gods, got her powers from science, etc?
How is she actually classified?
riotgear
03-14-2006, 09:40 PM
Is she a mutant, alien, powers gifted from the gods, got her powers from science, etc?
How is she actually classified?
She is a mutate. An artificially-altered human. She received her powers by being irradiated by the Kree Psyche-Magnitron device. The radiation augmented her entire genetic structure, giving her superhuman strength, the ability to fly, and a clairvoyant "seventh sense".
Effect
03-14-2006, 09:41 PM
Are there others in the the Marvel universe like her that are superheros that have gotten a focus as apart of teams or on their own?
Mariah
03-14-2006, 09:47 PM
Are there others in the the Marvel universe like her that are superheros that have gotten a focus as apart of teams or on their own?
There are tons of mutates in the marvel universe. Falcon is one of them, Incredible Hulk, She-Hulk, Spider-Man and Spider-Woman and on and on and on.
Effect
03-14-2006, 09:59 PM
I mean in the way she was changed and received her powers. Was she the only one to be irradiated by the Kree Psyche-Magnitron device?
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03-15-2006, 09:15 AM
I mean in the way she was changed and received her powers. Was she the only one to be irradiated by the Kree Psyche-Magnitron device?I'm not 100% sure, but I think so. It was destroyed almost immediately after it was used on her, at any rate.
It's worth noting that later interaction with Rogue and experimentation by the Brood muddied the waters quite a bit in terms of what powers are the result of what incident.
I mean in the way she was changed and received her powers. Was she the only one to be irradiated by the Kree Psyche-Magnitron device?
Originally, Carol Danvers received her enhanced powers by her Ms. Marvel costume; whereas, the Psyche Magnatron split her personality into the human Carol Danvers & Kree Ms. Marvel. A second exposure to the Psyche Magnatron inbued Carol's DNA with Kree characteristics. Therefore, she became a human-Kree hybrid, possessing the best aspects of both species. As a result, Ms. Marvel had the abilitiy to change from her normal clothes to her costume with her thoughts, she possessed a Seventh Sense precognative powers, flight, invulnerability, superhuman strength, & an ability to breath in space. All of these powers were torn from Carol by Rogue. Carol's augmented Kree-human DNA remained. The Brood subjected Carol to an Evolutionary Ray which activated the latent potential within her hybrid alien genes. As a result of the experiments, Carol Danvers gained the ability to tap into the primal fabric of the cosmic itself--theoretically she possesses the abilitiy to tap into a white hole--which gives Carol limitless powers of a star. Carol Danvers renamed her new identity Binary. As Binary, Carol is a mutant due to her activated hybrid Kree-human DNA. Years later, Binary returned to Earth & felt her cosmic powers waining. Eventually she renamed herself Warbird then went back to Ms. Marvel. However, as Ms. Marvel, she basically retains her Binary powers, although they are cut in half. Carol is still a formidable hero, but she does not have the absolute powers of a star when she was Binary.
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03-15-2006, 09:22 AM
As Binary, Carol is a mutant due to her activated hybrid Kree-human DNA.I'm curious as to your reasoning, here. Since her mutation was artificially induced, I'd think "mutate" would be more applicable.
I'm curious as to your reasoning, here. Since her mutation was artificially induced, I'd think "mutate" would be more applicable.
Colossus says to Binary in Uncanny X-Men #164 she is now a mutant & able to join the X-Men.
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03-15-2006, 09:50 AM
Colossus says to Binary in Uncanny X-Men #164 she is now a mutant & able to join the X-Men.He does indeed say that. I read it more as a friendly gesture than a statement of "fact," though
Shellhead
03-15-2006, 10:05 AM
Colossus says to Binary in Uncanny X-Men #164 she is now a mutant & able to join the X-Men.
Collosus is a really nice guy, but not exactly an expert on mutation like Moira or Charles.
Harlock
03-15-2006, 11:13 AM
Is she a mutant, alien, powers gifted from the gods, got her powers from science, etc?
How is she actually classified?
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=118
Everything you could want to know about Carol Danvers.
He does indeed say that. I read it more as a friendly gesture than a statement of "fact," though
Binary was going to join the X-Men to begin her life all over again until Rogue joined the team in Uncanny X-Men #171. Xavier must have confirmed Binary to be a mutant for her to join the team. But she joined the Starjammers instead because she felt so disconnected with her former life as Ms. Marvel.
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03-15-2006, 01:56 PM
Xavier must have confirmed Binary to be a mutant for her to join the team.I think that's a reach. X-Men membership has never been all that exclusive.
Slumber Hulk
03-15-2006, 02:17 PM
Clearly they are not exclusive in regards to hero/villian mutants.
What are some non-mutants who've been on the team?
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03-15-2006, 02:22 PM
Mimic, Warlock, and Longshot are the big ones.
I took Xavier's offer to be, again, more of a friendly gesture than a confirmation of mutant status.
Mimic, Warlock, and Longshot are the big ones.
I took Xavier's offer to be, again, more of a friendly gesture than a confirmation of mutant status.
Mimic blackmailed Xavier to force him on the team; otherwise, Mimic was not welcome into the X-Men as say Rogue or Gambit was.
Xavier deduced Warlock to be a mutant simply by his behavior was an anomoly for his species; therefore, yes, Warlock is indeed a mutant.
Longshot is technically not a mutant because he was force grown into an adult with a set of memories, but he is genetically engineered with special powers.
Porcelain
03-15-2006, 04:43 PM
Longshot is the most memorable off hand.
Outsider characters like Mimic, Charlotte Jones (not really more of a kinda sub), Amanda Sefton?, Cerise (support), the Sentinal bird from Excalibur, Juggarnaut etc. Think I'm missing someone relatively big but can't think who....never was a big deal but it has happened, mostly support characters but a couple of actual team mates in the core books now and again.
Longshot is the most memorable off hand.
Outsider characters like Mimic, Charlotte Jones (not really more of a kinda sub), Amanda Sefton?, Cerise (support), the Sentinal bird from Excalibur, Juggarnaut etc. Think I'm missing someone relatively big but can't think who....never was a big deal but it has happened, mostly support characters but a couple of actual team mates in the core books now and again.
Amanda Sefton has been written as simply a powerful sorceress; it was not until X-Men: Black Sun which Claremont explicitly stated Amanda Sefton is a mutant. He also said Margali Szardos is a mutant in Fantastic Four 1999 Annual when she teleported to Limbo to escape the Hellfire Club catacombs which mystically trapped Selene & Blackheart.
I'm guessing since he did not have access to Magik, he used Margali Szardos & Amanda Sefton for those stories because both women use Belasco-Limbo as their base.
riotgear
03-15-2006, 05:44 PM
Amanda Sefton has been written as simply a powerful sorceress; it was not until X-Men: Black Sun which Claremont explicitly stated Amanda Sefton is a mutant. He also said Margali Szardos is a mutant in Fantastic Four 1999 Annual when she teleported to Limbo to escape the Hellfire Club catacombs which mystically trapped Selene & Blackheart.
I'm guessing since he did not have access to Magik, he used Margali Szardos & Amanda Sefton for those stories because both women use Belasco-Limbo as their base.
Dude, Amanda was established as a mutant back as far as X-Men Classics.
Dude, Amanda was established as a mutant back as far as X-Men Classics.
No, she was established to be a demon sorceress way back in Uncanny X-Men Annual #4 when she revealed to Nightcrawler that Amanda Sefton & Jirmaine Szardos are the same woman. Amanda used magic to defeat the mystical Dire Wraiths in Uncanny X-Men #187-188; she also used magic against the Hellfire Club in Uncanny X-Men #151-152. Even when she joined the Muir Island X-Men, Amanda Sefton is written as only a sorceress--not a mutant--in Uncanny X-Men #254-255 to fight the Reavers along with other non-mutants Dr. Moira MacTaggert, Sharon Friendlander, Thomas Corsi (Friendlander & Corsi were mystically changed by the Demon Bear & have superhuman attributes) included with the mutants Forge, Banshee, Legion, & Lorna Dane.
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