Is Faith No More Under Rated? [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

Core

03-13-2006, 10:56 PM

I love Faith No More, but with the exception of the short-lived single off of The Real Thing, they haven't gotten much mainstream attention.

Mike Patton, in particular, is one of my favorite frontmen in rock history. Years ago, I saw FNM on tour with Metallica and Guns-N-Roses, and FNM's live show blew both the other bands away, largely due to Patton's insanely energetic stage presence.

Chip Whitley

03-13-2006, 11:20 PM

Mike Patton, in particular, is one of my favorite frontmen in rock history. Years ago, I saw FNM on tour with Metallica and Guns-N-Roses, and FNM's live show blew both the other bands away, largely due to Patton's insanely energetic stage presence.
Never had the pleasure of seeing them in person, but I remember him being all over the stage for their SNL performance.

I love The Real Thing and Angel Dust. Album of the Year is great too. Haven't heard much from King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime. Is it as good as the rest?

Hiromi

03-14-2006, 12:57 AM

Last i checked Epic still got a fair deal of radio play on alternative stations. That said last I checked in this case translates to two or so years.

Harry

03-14-2006, 01:57 AM

I wouldn't call them underrated. They have much more than a modest following, verging on the legendary. Epic was a massive song and Last Cup Of Sorrow and Midlife Crisis got moderate play as well.

Biggbuttmcgruff!!!!

03-14-2006, 09:01 AM

I guess the thing that's weird to me is thatevery time you mention their name, all anybody ever says is "Oh Yeah, Epic. Thats a really good song." Beyond that nothing.

Shellhead

03-14-2006, 09:34 AM

I used to think of them as one-hit wonders, until I heard the song "Evidence." It had a low-key, funky vibe that I really liked.

Core

03-14-2006, 09:58 AM

Haven't heard much from King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime. Is it as good as the rest?

I like King for a Day better than Angel Dust and The Real Thing. It's a great showcase of the band's range and versatility.

Tully

03-14-2006, 10:00 AM

I wouldn't call them underrated. They have much more than a modest following, verging on the legendary. Epic was a massive song and Last Cup Of Sorrow and Midlife Crisis got moderate play as well.

Yea, while I don't like them very much, they are pretty much Legends.

nonhosonno

03-15-2006, 12:45 AM

In their heyday, all of FNM's videos got a fair amount of rotation: "Epic," "From Out Of Nowhere," "Midlife Crisis," "Digging The Grave," etc.

Angel Dust is an awesome album, leaps and bounds ahead of The Real Thing and, for me, more consistent than KFAD,FFAL. I tried to get into Album Of The Year but it didn't happen. It has some solid tunes, though. It just sounds like a band's final album, recorded during a time when everybody knew it would be their last. And Trey Spruance is no doubt a "better" guitarist than Jim Martin, but the line-up with Jim was far and away the best. Patton sounds amazing on Angel Dust!

Harry

03-15-2006, 01:03 AM

I like King for a Day better than Angel Dust and The Real Thing.
Ditto. That one's my favourite. It has such a bizarre variation to it without wandering into convoluted Bungle territory. Angel Dust probably comes in third with me actually, with Album of the Year my second favourite. I love their mellower, more atmospheric stuff and there isn't too much of that on Angel Dust.

Yea, while I don't like them very much, they are pretty much Legends.
Exactly. I'm not the biggest fan in the world, although I quite like them, but regardless they're a band that demands respect.

Sanagi

03-15-2006, 02:21 AM

My boss played The Real Thing for me the other day, and the whole album was greta.
Greta, perhaps, but was it jake? (http://local.aaca.org/bntc/slang/slang.htm#J)

Biggbuttmcgruff!!!!

03-15-2006, 08:50 AM

I have to hand it to you...that's funny. Or acording to my logic, funyn.
Anyway, This band has a very weird history. They have had a rotating cast, Courtney Love fronted then for a year. My comic shop dude said that one of their guitarists had a whole buncha degrees yet chose to play music.Is that true?

Noir_Dark

03-15-2006, 11:30 PM

On my top ten fav albums of all time, FNM has 2 spots. ‘King for a day…’, and ‘Album of the year”.

And nobody covers a song better that them. ‘Songs to make love too’ has a couple GREAT examples of this.

If I start thinking about my fav songs of all time- FNM would dominate.

Lubichev

03-16-2006, 06:12 AM

I remember something about Anthony Keidis and Mike Patton having a little friction between them? Something about one stealing the other's style or something like that........
Mike Patton was in Mr. Bungle too, is that right?

Harry

03-16-2006, 03:03 PM

Mike Patton was in Mr. Bungle too, is that right?
Right you are.

Tish-the-Scorpion

03-16-2006, 07:22 PM

not really....they do get overlooked when it comes to songs outside of "epic" though.how can you over look these traks?

faling to peices

eveything's ruined

evedence

midlife crises

DWEarhart

03-16-2006, 11:58 PM

Mike Patton was in Mr. Bungle too, is that right?

You can also find him in Lovage, and Fantomas with Dave Lombardo and Buzz Osbourne (King Buzzo) of the Melvins, and Trevor Dunn

His new main project is Tomahawk now that Mr. Bungle is no more.

You can go here for more info.
http://www.etl.hu/~csego/patton/[/URL]

Meanwhile, Mike Bordin is drumming for Ozzy Osbourne now.

NathanielEssex

03-18-2006, 12:07 PM

bert

03-18-2006, 12:21 PM

Faith No More are one of the best bands in existence. King for A Day is one of my favorite albums. They've influenced almost every modern metal band that you can think of....and other types of bands.

When I first heard Enjoy Incubus, I was like, "Why does this guy sound like Mike Patton?"

HELL YEAH, they're underrated!! One of the most underrated bands out there.

Too bad they aren't in "existence" any more.

They've been broken up for quite a while now (technically, ever since Big Sick Jim decided to retire. . .since he was the major songwriter in the band).

Patton went on to Mr. Bungle (which is now no more as well. . it was news to me that he's in the band Tomahawk (I've heard OF them, but not heard them).

Roddy Bottom, went full time to his side project (and one of my favorite bands of all time), Imperial Teen-- who's biggest "hit" is probably "Yoo-hoo" which is in the film Jawbreaker (played during the opening credits). Great, great band. . . highly recommended.

the drummer, is now playing for Ozzy, I believe.

No idea what the bass player is doing these days.

FNM's first album "Introduce Yourself" is also fantastic. . even tho Patton is not the singer on it. When they first started, FNM was more similar to the Chilli Peppers "funk", but after they booted the lead singer, and replaced him w/ Patton, they got more "metal/rock" sounding. In fact, I saw them open for The Chili Peppers on the "Fight Like a Brave" tour (That would be the Uplift Mofo Party Plan tour).

Still. . that first album includes the early MTV hit, "We Care a Lot", and also the classic "Anne's Song" (which is was a favorite live, w/ the audience call and response during the lyrics "Hey! Hey! Hey!. . .WHAT!. . , oh nothing")

NathanielEssex

03-18-2006, 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=bert]Too bad they aren't in "existence" any more.

They've been broken up for quite a while now (technically, ever since Big Sick Jim decided to retire. . .since he was the major songwriter in the band).

Patton went on to Mr. Bungle (which is now no more as well. . it was news to me that he's in the band Tomahawk (I've heard OF them, but not heard them).

Roddy Bottom, went full time to his side project (and one of my favorite bands of all time), Imperial Teen-- who's biggest "hit" is probably "Yoo-hoo" which is in the film Jawbreaker (played during the opening credits). Great, great band. . . highly recommended.

the drummer, is now playing for Ozzy, I believe.

No idea what the bass player is doing these days."

Oh yeah, I'm well aware that they've broken up. Poor choice of words, on my part. I've been a fan since 1991. The first Bungle album is one of my favorite of all time. The other two...not so much. Wasn't impressed with Loveage, either. But what little I've heard of Tomahawk sounded good. :cool:

Sadyv

03-20-2006, 09:02 PM

They've been broken up for quite a while now (technically, ever since Big Sick Jim decided to retire. . .since he was the major songwriter in the band).

If you are referring to Jim Martin, you should know that Angle Dust was written largely without his input, despite him still being a band member. MOst of the guitar parts were written by the other members of the band.

PunkMC

03-21-2006, 08:11 AM

Tomahawk is awsome. Worth checking out.

Also on a side note Jim Martin is now a world record pumpkin grower.. who'd a thought it.

bert

03-21-2006, 07:11 PM

If you are referring to Jim Martin, you should know that Angle Dust was written largely without his input, despite him still being a band member. MOst of the guitar parts were written by the other members of the band.

yep. . and that was the first FNM album that didn't "sound" consistent the entire way thru.

If I'm not mistaken (and I don't believe I am), Jim started the band.

"Introduce Yourself" and "The Real Thing". . are classic albums. . the rest?. . not so much.

s'ok tho :) . . there are great parts of all the CDs.

(have you ever heard Roddy's band, Imperial Teen?. . I LOVE them).

Sadyv

03-22-2006, 08:24 PM

I actually think Angel Dust is the best record they ever did, and I like King for a Day almost as much. Album of the Year is ok, although I skip many songs on that when I listen through it.

I honestly don't care much for the Real Thing, it sounds very dated.

THe earlier albums I can't listen to, because of Chuck Mosely. HIs singing is terrible, although Anne's Song is a fun one.

I know Jim Martin was one of the original founders of the band.

I heard Imperial Teen once years ago, but it was in the background at a party, and I can't say I remember much about it, other than that it seemed to be pretty straight forward sounding pop music. But I could be confusing that with some

bert

03-22-2006, 09:33 PM

I heard Imperial Teen once years ago, but it was in the background at a party, and I can't say I remember much about it, other than that it seemed to be pretty straight forward sounding pop music. But I could be confusing that with some

I'd say a little more "punk" then pop, but yeah, some of thier songs are more "Archies" than "Sonic Youth" :)

they are great live. . and tend to swap the instruments among themselves during the set. . .

Pinball

03-23-2006, 08:09 PM

Bert, i thought "We Care A Lot" was their first album?

david r

03-24-2006, 08:59 PM

The Real Thing truly was a great rock record. Faith No More were ahead of their time, and Mike Patton could have become an iconic lead singer.

Unfortunately, their potential never really went anywhere. Patton seemed to change his vocal style after The Real Thing , and the band seemed to lose focus. The follow-up LP, Angel Dust was good, but no classic like it's predecessor. They eventually lost their lead guitarist and faded away.

Faith No More could have been one of the defining rock bands of the 1990s, but it didn't happen.

Dennis K

03-24-2006, 09:40 PM

No, Faith No More is not underrated.

Adam Crocker

03-24-2006, 09:46 PM

Patton went on to Mr. Bungle (which is now no more as well. . it was news to me that he's in the band Tomahawk (I've heard OF them, but not heard them).

Not really "went on" since Bungle was running con-currently with Faith No More. He formed the band before he joined FNM and would only join them if was allowed to work with Mr. Bungle as well.

bert

03-25-2006, 04:21 PM

Bert, i thought "We Care A Lot" was their first album?

yep, you are correct -- I suppose I should have been more specific, and said "Major Label" first album (sort of like the "first" Nirvana album is almost never refered to as "Bleach". . since it was on a tiny indie label).

as I said, you are correct. The truth is, I almost NEVER listen to "We Care Alot". . and the band pretty much scrapped the whole album when they recorded "Introduce Yourself". . .the title track is the only one that survived the recording of the "first" album.

here's a link to a discography from the "Official" website. (w/ some interesting comments, particularly when it gets to the "Angel Dust" record re: Jim's solos).

http://www.fnm.com/discography/FNMDiscog1.txt

Noir_Dark

03-26-2006, 11:29 PM

[B] Faith No More could have been one of the defining rock bands of the 1990s, but it didn't happen.
Many think that FNM was a defining rock band of the 90's
And many more think that they fot better after 'The Real Thing'

Primalicon

04-08-2006, 05:12 PM

i think faith no more is under rated and only because they arent around anymore. if they were still together they would be in the charts consistently.
Although i do have to say maike patton was one of the reasons why they were so great.
for your info if your are a big mike patton fan, you can fill a 20 gig ipod with nothing but mike patton if you include all his recorded works (b-sides, side projects etc) and the few covers he does live, such as portishead's glorybox, and a few g.g allin covers. i know 3 people that have that.

oh and buy The General Patton vrs The Executioners!!

Noir_Dark

04-08-2006, 09:01 PM

And there is a pre-release of Mike Patton’s newest project, Peeping Tom.
It Rocks!

Its kindda like Loveage but better.

DonC

04-09-2006, 10:51 AM

Out of sight, out of mind. Most people considered them a one-hit wonder. Even now, the only song of theirs I ever hear on the radio is "Epic."

I guess that makes my answer "Yes."

david r

04-09-2006, 07:27 PM

Many think that FNM was a defining rock band of the 90's
And many more think that they fot better after 'The Real Thing'

They were a popular band during the 1990-92 period. After that, they faded from view. Expect maybe for some of their hardcore fans. But the main rock scene all but dismissed Faith No More after '92s Angel Dust CD.

After The Real Thing, they're music became more hard-rock, and far less mainstream. I wouldn't say that it was better. By the late 90s, they had lost their lead guitarist and were completely off the chart in most music fans lives. Their new albums sold horribly and they quit.

Noir_Dark

04-10-2006, 12:44 AM

They were a popular band during the 1990-92 period. After that, they faded from view. Expect maybe for some of their hardcore fans. But the main rock scene all but dismissed Faith No More after '92s Angel Dust CD.

After The Real Thing, they're music became more hard-rock, and far less mainstream. I wouldn't say that it was better. By the late 90s, they had lost their lead guitarist and were completely off the chart in most music fans lives. Their new albums sold horribly and they quit.

Faded from whose view? Head Bangers Ball? Top 40 radio?

‘Grunge’ was the mainstream at the time, FNM didn’t fit so they were pushed aside. But they were still successful. Angel Dust received great reviews and is still considered one of the most innovative albums of the 90’s. Actually their last studio release (Album of the Year) sold more than any of their other albums, including The Real Thing. They split up because Patton (or his ego) felt limited.

And I would say Martin (original guitar player) leaving FNM made for (IMO) the best album to come out of the 90’s: King for a Day…
Replacing Martin’s riffs with Srpuance’s jazzy licks completely blew my mind. As well as the minds of all the kids just discovering Nu-Metal. Many consider FNM one the founding fathers of Nu-Metal.

So in FNM never failed. They quit while they were at their most successful.

David, please don’t measure music by what the mainstream shits out and shoves down our throats. I hate the thought of people looking back and calling Nickelback and Fall Out Boy as the “defining” music of their time.

Primalicon

04-19-2006, 05:17 AM

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