Authority Revolution: Both trades are out.

[Keith_Martineau]

And I have now finished reading them all.

Utterly brilliant. I thought it was note perfect. It had the same crass attitude and big action, but everything was more personal than just "world threat of the week."
I loved how it basically tied together everything, from Stormwatch on up. It was filled with continuity, but still blazed a new story, the threats were real and credible, and it brought the Authority back to what they were originally at the outset of Ellis' run. Bravo.
I'll read anything you write now Mr. Brubaker. Bring on Uncanny X-Men.

[aukevin]

I read the first Authority trade (Relentless) today. I enjoyed it. I'll get to the Revolution trades soon :)

[Stellar]

wait...Brubaker's on X-men?

dear god...

i knew this would happen. those bitches at marvel are trying kill WS by taking away all the talent, and/or trying to duplicate the formula. why the hell do you think they put Ellis on X-man.

[hex111]

wait...Brubaker's on X-men?

dear god...

i knew this would happen. those bitches at marvel are trying kill WS by taking away all the talent, and/or trying to duplicate the formula. why the hell do you think they put Ellis on X-man.

Ellis had a history of working for Marvel before he became Warren "The Authority" Ellis... he really started getting a name from his work on Excalibur...

as for Brubaker on X-Men... he is now the regular writer on Daredevil, Captain America and Uncanny X-Men for Marvel... he has been Marvel "exclusive" for about the past 6 months now... hence why he left Gotham Central as well... and honestly, I don't blame him... if DC didn't see what kind of talent they had with Brubaker to give him the "exclusive" that his talent demands, that's their fault...

[Jake V]

wait...Brubaker's on X-men?

dear god...

i knew this would happen. those bitches at marvel are trying kill WS by taking away all the talent, and/or trying to duplicate the formula. why the hell do you think they put Ellis on X-man.
Haven't you heard who the new Authority writer is?

Grant freakin' Morrison.

No shortage of talent over at Wildstorm.

[Apathy Boy]

wait...Brubaker's on X-men?

dear god...

i knew this would happen. those bitches at marvel are trying kill WS by taking away all the talent, and/or trying to duplicate the formula. why the hell do you think they put Ellis on X-man.
Ellis had a history of working for Marvel before he became Warren "The Authority" Ellis... he really started getting a name from his work on Excalibur...

as for Brubaker on X-Men... he is now the regular writer on Daredevil, Captain America and Uncanny X-Men for Marvel... he has been Marvel "exclusive" for about the past 6 months now... hence why he left Gotham Central as well... and honestly, I don't blame him... if DC didn't see what kind of talent they had with Brubaker to give him the "exclusive" that his talent demands, that's their fault...Brubaker was exclusive to DC for 1-2 years. When it expired, DC offered to re-up, but Brubaker declined because he wanted to freelance for a while. After a few months of seeing what DC and Marvel had to offer him in the future, he decided to sign an exclusive with Marvel.

So can we stop trying to assign "blame" to companies and stop accusing companies of "stealing" talent? Maybe we should just recognize that comics creators may actually choose to move from company to company because they like some variety in the projects they work on and in the people they work with. And maybe we should be happy we live in an era in which creators have the freedom to do so and are able to make a decent living out of it.

[Stellar]

okay, okay, i see your point, Apathy boy. it's just that in recent marvel comics i've been noticing a trend of marvel trying to copy WS. hell, the entire Ultimate line was probably inspired by WS. critics have compared Ultimate Avengers to the Authority, for god's sake. now i agree creators should have the freedom to come and go where they please, but marvel is intentionally using them to simply rip off other people's ideas instead of coming up with something creative.

[hex111]

okay, okay, i see your point, Apathy boy. it's just that in recent marvel comics i've been noticing a trend of marvel trying to copy WS. hell, the entire Ultimate line was probably inspired by WS. critics have compared Ultimate Avengers to the Authority, for god's sake. now i agree creators should have the freedom to come and go where they please, but marvel is intentionally using them to simply rip off other people's ideas instead of coming up with something creative.

The Ultimates and Authority comparison couldn't happen to have anything to do with the fact that both creators got the name recognition that they presently have because of their work on The Authority?

and really, the only comparisons that the 2 have are the political intrigue and the "widescreen" style that Hitch is so talented at...

I don't think that they are trying to "rip off WS with the Ultimate Line"... I think the Ultimate line just does what it's supposed to do... update the characters and reboot them with modern sensibilities and so that a younger audience could get a chance to try the books and characters from the beginning..

[sgt.candy]

i loved the potential future with the midnighter conquering earth

yea i know, but it was cool

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

I loved Brubaker's Jenny Quantum at the end of the run. She was freakin' awesome.

[Stellar]

albeit with a very dirty mouth :D

[borateen]

Okay...the few comments actually about the TPBs in this thread have convinced me to pick up the TPBs when I'm at my LCS next month. Heck, it's gotta be better than R. Morrison's Authority.

[Keith_Martineau]

okay, okay, i see your point, Apathy boy. it's just that in recent marvel comics i've been noticing a trend of marvel trying to copy WS. hell, the entire Ultimate line was probably inspired by WS. critics have compared Ultimate Avengers to the Authority, for god's sake. now i agree creators should have the freedom to come and go where they please, but marvel is intentionally using them to simply rip off other people's ideas instead of coming up with something creative.

This would be a valid argument, if not for the fact that the people who wrote the creative stuff in WS are the same people who created the Ultimate Univesre.
And you can't bloody well rip off yourself.
Did Marvel say "damn, I like what they're doing over there!"? Yup. Did they hire OTHER writers to just emulate it? No. They hired those writers, and let them do their thing in their playground.
Nothing wrong with that.

[Jeff F]

This would be a valid argument, if not for the fact that the people who wrote the creative stuff in WS are the same people who created the Ultimate Univesre.


Bendis wrote for Wildstorm?

Cause as it stands Bendis created Spider-Man, Team Up and Fantastic Four and Millar created Ultimates, X-Men, and Fantastic Four.

[Strannik]

Bendis wrote for Wildstorm?

Cause as it stands Bendis created Spider-Man, Team Up and Fantastic Four and Millar created Ultimates, X-Men, and Fantastic Four.

Don't be a smart-ass, mate.

Of course, if you are serious, all I can say is - Good God! ;)

[Jeff F]

Don't be a smart-ass, mate.

Of course, if you are serious, all I can say is - Good God! ;)

I didn't mean to be a smart-ass.

I haven't read as much Wildstorm as I would have liked. It was an honest question. If Bendis hasn't written for Wildstorm then that means only half of the Ultimate Universe was made by WS poster boys. With Millar leaving the Ultimateverse (I believe he's dropping UFF from his duties) that would only leave Ellis (and honestly I think Ultimate Nightmare is going to be finished before Ultimates 2).

So the new Ultimate U will be written, by Kirkman, Bendis, and Loeb three men who have zippo to do with WS as far as I know.

Granted, if Marvel DID hand the Ultimate U over to Millar, Ellis, and Casey I would buy every issue forever.

I'm going to go read some Wildcats v. 1 now :D

[TJ Shoun]

Topping the Ellis/Millar era of The Authority is tantamount to beating the Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four run.

It ain't gonna happen.

That said, Brubaker's Revolution is excellent. For someone who used to be a huge Indie writer, he uses continuity as good as or better than the self-proclaimed life-long superhero writers.

Everything Brubaker's written in the mainstream so far has been golden.

I loved his explanation for Bendix's return and all the various Jennys in Infinite City. Awesome stuff.

Ngyuen's art was very nice too.

And let's be honest -- the only reason Robbie Morrison's run was given so much crap was because the Ellis and Millar runs are held in such high regard. Yeah, R.M.'s run was a little heavy-handed in places, but there were some very original ideas in it. (C'mon... an alternate reality-spanning corporation?! That's comicbook cool.)

Despite his reputation as the greatest thing since Alan Moore, Grant Morrison still has to prove himself on this title.

[Strannik]

I didn't mean to be a smart-ass.

I haven't read as much Wildstorm as I would have liked. It was an honest question. If Bendis hasn't written for Wildstorm then that means only half of the Ultimate Universe was made by WS poster boys. With Millar leaving the Ultimateverse (I believe he's dropping UFF from his duties) that would only leave Ellis (and honestly I think Ultimate Nightmare is going to be finished before Ultimates 2).

So the new Ultimate U will be written, by Kirkman, Bendis, and Loeb three men who have zippo to do with WS as far as I know.

Granted, if Marvel DID hand the Ultimate U over to Millar, Ellis, and Casey I would buy every issue forever.

I'm going to go read some Wildcats v. 1 now :D

Sorry, mate, I didn't realize you honestly didn't know.

BTW, Ultimate Nightmare has been finished over a year ago. Ultimate Extinction on the other hand....

[Jeff F]

Sorry, mate, I didn't realize you honestly didn't know.

BTW, Ultimate Nightmare has been finished over a year ago. Ultimate Extinction on the other hand....

It's cool. Heck, up until a little while ago I didn't realize that the Morrison that I was reading on Authority wasn't Grant :eek:

I meant Extinction... heck it's all the same thing.

[UniqueFrequency]

Topping the Ellis/Millar era of The Authority is tantamount to beating the Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four run.

It ain't gonna happen.

That said, Brubaker's Revolution is excellent. For someone who used to be a huge Indie writer, he uses continuity as good as or better than the self-proclaimed life-long superhero writers.

Everything Brubaker's written in the mainstream so far has been golden.

I loved his explanation for Bendix's return and all the various Jennys in Infinite City. Awesome stuff.

Ngyuen's art was very nice too.

And let's be honest -- the only reason Robbie Morrison's run was given so much crap was because the Ellis and Millar runs are held in such high regard. Yeah, R.M.'s run was a little heavy-handed in places, but there were some very original ideas in it. (C'mon... an alternate reality-spanning corporation?! That's comicbook cool.)

Despite his reputation as the greatest thing since Alan Moore, Grant Morrison still has to prove himself on this title.

the closest run to Ellis/Millar run is definitely Brubaker's by a longshot

[Keith_Martineau]

Bendis wrote for Wildstorm?

Cause as it stands Bendis created Spider-Man, Team Up and Fantastic Four and Millar created Ultimates, X-Men, and Fantastic Four.

Bendis is the only one who didn't. Millar, Ellis. As they expand out now with Carey and Loeb that will be more true, but that will also means the Ultimate verse will change a bit to reflect those particular creators visions.

It's not stealing any style. It's letting their writers write what they want.

[Antonio B.]

Just read The Authority: Transfer of Power. Twas good.

[Agentum]

And let's be honest -- the only reason Robbie Morrison's run was given so much crap was because the Ellis and Millar runs are held in such high regard. Yeah, R.M.'s run was a little heavy-handed in places, but there were some very original ideas in it. (C'mon... an alternate reality-spanning corporation?! That's comicbook cool.)

Well i have only recently read the Stormwatch v1, v2 and The Authority by Ellis and then that Robbie Morrison books, it really is the worst of them, but as you say only compared with this books, a lot of worse books is around.