Doctor Doom Respect Thread

[DoctorDoom]

Hey Richards got a respect thread thread so why can;t Doom?

Feel free to list Doom's greatest moments....as well as some misfires. After all those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it....

[Violently Apathetic]

I know, I'll sing the Doom song! Doomdoomdoomddoomdoomdoomdooooom!

Sorry, I was watching Zim. Anyway, I'm having a brainfart and all I can come up with is how much I am loving the 'Books of Doom.' So much love, I couldn't wait for it to come out in trades...

That, and I hate the movie version.

[dingo]

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/sqlgrl3.gif

Respect.....suuuuuuree :p

[Violently Apathetic]

Hey, Squirrels can be quite vicious! Do not underestimate Doom for being overcome by such fearsome rodents!

[Expletive Deleted]

On what freaky alternate internet does Doom not get enough respect?

[DoctorDoom]

On what freaky alternate internet does Doom not get enough respect?
There can NEVER be enough respect for Doom....

[NathanielEssex]

Doom rules us all. It's best to not fight it and just learn to accept it. ;)

[Haunt]

this should be a Mother Doom respect thread. check out how she encouraged Victor to betray the throne and then sold his @$$ out when he failed. hopefully that will get him over his mommy fixation and he'll do something memorable, villainy-wise, this year.

[dingo]

this should be a Mother Doom respect thread. check out how she encouraged Victor to betray the throne and then sold his @$$ out when he failed. hopefully that will get him over his mommy fixation and he'll do something memorable, villainy-wise, this year.

I submit to you there is nothing scarier than a man with his own army and a "mommy fixation" as you put it.

[Nefarius]

Dr Doom is an icon.He is one of my favourite villains and he's worthy to be called the greatest villain of Marvel Universe.Man,it's too bad that he always lose from 4 jerks. :mad:

[Mean Mr Mustard]

He played EVERYONE in Dr Strange and Dr Doom: Triumph and Torment.
Dr Strange is my favorite comic book character but damn, that was awesome.

[Tommy]

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/sqlgrl3.gif

Respect.....suuuuuuree :p
Dr. Doom came out of a confrontation with THE ALLMIGHTY SQUIRREL GIRL better than MODOCK or Thanos.

that shows how Bad-ass he is.

[XPac]

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/sqlgrl3.gif

Respect.....suuuuuuree :p

Considering Squirrel Girl owned Thanos, I'd argue that was actually a fairly respectable showing by Doom.

[DoctorDoom]

Doom rules us all. It's best to not fight it and just learn to accept it. ;)
*sniffle*...so **** true my main man...

[Dalak]

Anyone have any scans of Doom making whatever he did to take out Magneto? Building that device that nulled his powers and such.

[Magneto Rocks]

DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! DOOM! DOOM!

Doctor Doom is simply the best character in the history of comicdom. The third person speaking, the cape, the attitude, the honour... Doom rocks! Doom's imperial person should not be disturbed!

My favourite moments?

Well obviously him stealing the Power Cosmic!

I also loved it when he delivered his speech to Reed about how Reed was so incredibly arrogant in 'Unthinkable.' Plus in the same story where he told Johnny, Ben and Sue that Reed knew Doom would make a great king and was simply preventing an ascension which would benefit everyone.

[Wind-Breaker]

Comic Book Laws of Owning:

Rule No.1: Any villian that refers to himself in the third person owns.

Rule No.2: Any villian who calls himself "Doctor" without having a advanced college degree owns.

Rule No.3: Any villian who can carry a crappy FF movie owns



With all that said, I still think that Magneto is a cooler villian, along with Sinister. :p

[marshal99]

;)
http://www.ncsoftware.com/images/VonDoomSuperman.jpg

[darkhawk76]

;)
http://www.ncsoftware.com/images/VonDoomSuperman.jpg

genius, all heil Doom :D

[icctrombone]

genius, all heil Doom :D


The original dialogue was just as badass. Doom says something like " Bah ! are you not sworn to uphold the laws of man , Alien ? "

Doom when written right rules.

[Lord S]

I like Doom because he has consistently shown an ability to accomplish goals, or come close to accomplishing goals, well beyond his means...even his failures are worthy of respect. As opposed to more powerful, yet under-acheiving, villains like Apocalypse.

One story that sticks out for me is 'Infinity War', where Doom was heavily involved in a cosmic tale that he had no business being in, in the first place. But he is Doom, and he will not be denied. He and Kang lurked in the shadows as the wildcards in the entire crossover, and he came oh so close to grabbing the IG...punking Adam Warlock, Kang, and the Magus before doing so. It was sweet...if you're a Doom fan.

[RidleyX]

Doom is awesome for several of billions of reasons but I shall just name a few:

1. Secret War 10 thats all I have to say. (I'm talking about the first secret war not the nick fury one)

2. his quotes>Everyone except Deadpools

3. The abilty to say DOOM like that I mean come on can you speak in bold and captailzations I don't think so.

4. He has 3 goals:

A. Rescue his mother from the grip of mephisto which he did in Doom and starnge: Triumph and Torment

B. Rule the world which he has done on more then 1 occasion.

C. Destroy Reed Richards

the fact that he has accomplished 2 of them is awesome in itself but now the main thing driving him to do what he does is to DESTROY RICHARDS.

and finally

5. HE IS DOOM.

[Micro]

Dr. Droom is truely one of the more iconic villians in all of fictional literature.

[Agentum]

But overused, how many times can he come back and still fail?

I think a lot of storys when they couldn't come up with anything good they throwed in Doom to make it intresting.

[Nefarius]

Doom for ever.I can't say something more about Doom.Doom is the top Marvel character and the reason why i read F4.(of course only the issues with Doom:D ).

[Titan76]

;)
http://www.ncsoftware.com/images/VonDoomSuperman.jpg
Hahahahahahah!!:D God that is just great. Doom figures out something that Lex could never figure out. All hail Doom!!!

[BYC]

http://daredevil.dreamhost.com/miscpics/rr/rrdoom02.jpg

What a ridiculously good line from Doom.

[Haunt]

http://daredevil.dreamhost.com/miscpics/rr/rrdoom02.jpg

What a ridiculously good line from Doom.


actually, it looks like he's trying to romance Daredevil. i'm sure that he normally uses roofies but i guess a punch would work too.

[the invincible ironfran-cis]

No other character but perhaps Cap and Spidey would have the shear will power to defeat the Beyonder, obtain the power cosmic, almost steal the infinity gauntlet and Thor's hammer.

But mostly: I love Doom because he has always been a snappy dresser.

[Haunt]

No other character but perhaps Cap and Spidey would have the shear will power to defeat the Beyonder, obtain the power cosmic, almost steal the infinity gauntlet and Thor's hammer.

But mostly: I love Doom because he has always been a snappy dresser.

he never defeated the Beyonder. the latter was toying with him. and any idiot could fail to steal the infinity gauntlet or Thor's hammer.

[the invincible ironfran-cis]

he never defeated the Beyonder. the latter was toying with him. and any idiot could fail to steal the infinity gauntlet or Thor's hammer.

I doubt anyone would have the will to try.

It has been a while; but I didn't think the Beyonder was playing with him. I understood that he had somehow tricked the Beyonder into forfeiting his power.

[Sam T.]

Dr. Doom demands respect and power!!

[Haunt]

I doubt anyone would have the will to try.
.

haven't been reading FF lately, then? there were lines of average people attempting to lift Thor's fallen hammer. that's when the mystery figure (probably Donald Blake) budged to the front of the line and lifted it.


Dr. Doom demands respect and power!!


as do most comic book villains; Stilt-man for instance.

[Sam T.]

Stilt man is a nothing, a joke to Doom!

[Haunt]

Stilt man is a nothing, a joke to Doom!


Stilt-man hasn't lost to Squirrel Girl, yet.

[Deadpooligan]

...as do most comic book villains; Stilt-man for instance.

Stilt Man has moved up now. He's just faought Ms. Marvel and he'll be taking on the Punisher soon.

He's still better than Paste-Pot-Pete... or Trapster now, right?

But I digress, Doom has done what all villains dream of achieving on a cosmic scale. And has a popular rapper spin-off. And the honor of being drawn iconically by Jim Lee in Heroes Reborn. And having his own Origin miniseries. Yeah.

[the invincible ironfran-cis]

haven't been reading FF lately, then? there were lines of average people attempting to lift Thor's fallen hammer. that's when the mystery figure (probably Donald Blake) budged to the front of the line and lifted it.

as do most comic book villains; Stilt-man for instance.

I was referring to stealing the Beyonder's power. The rest of them merely competed in the game, and wanted to go home, or have their wish granted.
Doom actually had the audacity to take on the Beyonder--and even with missing limbs, and on the verge of death--almost willed himself to succeed.

[Haunt]

Stilt Man has moved up now. He's just faought Ms. Marvel and he'll be taking on the Punisher soon.

He's still better than Paste-Pot-Pete... or Trapster now, right?

But I digress, Doom has done what all villains dream of achieving on a cosmic scale. And has a popular rapper spin-off. And the honor of being drawn iconically by Jim Lee in Heroes Reborn. And having his own Origin miniseries. Yeah.


Magneto was drawn by Jim Lee. Magneto's origin has been retold in college essay form. Magneto's got his own protocols via the United Nations. Magneto was played by a classicly-trained actor. Magneto might have his own movie. Magneto has a t-shirt line. Magneto had his own company-wide crossover.

p.s. Trapster actually beat and captured Mr.Fantastic. i wonder if Doom knows this.

[Leebenhouse]

Dude, Doom convinced a chick to put a bag over her head and sleep with him, and she did. Let's see Ian McKellan do that shtuff.

DOOM!!!!

I just got that classic FF issue by Byrne where it's a day in Latveria. Good stuff.

The only thing that keeps Doom from destroying Richards is the fact that Doom needs someone lesser than him to battle. Man, the Books of Doom mini was good, too bad he had to kill Valeria in FF.

And where are people getting the idea that Doom is a eunich? If he wanted to he could bear a kid with every woman in Latveria.

[dingo]

Dude, Doom convinced a chick to put a bag over her head and sleep with him, and she did. Let's see Ian McKellan do that shtuff.


Dude, Ian McKellan is a homosexual.

[Haunt]

Dude, Doom convinced a chick to put a bag over her head and sleep with him, and she did. Let's see Ian McKellan do that shtuff.

DOOM!!!!

I just got that classic FF issue by Byrne where it's a day in Latveria. Good stuff.

The only thing that keeps Doom from destroying Richards is the fact that Doom needs someone lesser than him to battle. Man, the Books of Doom mini was good, too bad he had to kill Valeria in FF.

And where are people getting the idea that Doom is a eunich? If he wanted to he could bear a kid with every woman in Latveria.

yes, every unshaven goat-herding uni-toothed woman in Latveria.


Dude, Ian McKellan is a homosexual.


he was also the Carver, so that's one more up on Doom.

[Leebenhouse]

Dude, Ian McKellan is a homosexual.
Exactly, so he can only do that with... a dude... (EEWW!!!)

And wait, wasn't that the bi-guy on Nip/Tuck? The Carver that is.

Although unfortunantly Doom got f-ed in the A by the Carver...

"Revenge!!!"

[DoctorDoom]

Doom is going to be on the cover for an upcoming Heroes FOr Hire....interesting. Perhaps Doom will destroy those upstarts!

[Magneto_X]

He's still better than Paste-Pot-Pete... or Trapster now, right?


Trapster's under-rated. He defeated both Reed Richards (Claremont's FF) and Spiderman (he had him cornered until Norman canceled the contract then left).

[Magneto_X]

Magneto was drawn by Jim Lee.

As was Doom. Heroes Reborn ring a bell?

Magneto's got his own protocols via the United Nations.


You know *why* the U.N. doesn't have any protocols for Doom? Because they know there's absolutely nothing they can do to Victor.

In Claremont's run the FF and S.H.I.E.L.D ran several holographic scenarios where Doom used Latveria's resources to conquer the world. And Doom won them *all*!

Reed was unnerved watching this. Btw, the scenarios included S.H.I.E.L.D, FF and the Avengers working together.

[Magneto Rocks]

A thread long overdue. Doctor Doom = Greatest character in fiction.

What we really need is a World War Doom where DOOM takes on everyone. United.

And of course, wins. Sentry? Hulk? Pah. They'll be licking Doom's metal boots.

[Magneto_X]

And where are people getting the idea that Doom is a eunich?

The only time I can think of Doom having sex or relationship with a woman was with the Valeria flashbacks in Waid's run.

Other than that he's turned down *the Enchantress* in Secret Wars. Who was on her knees *begging* him to be her consort.

In the first arc he appeared post-Heroes Reborn one of his allies, a sexy Atlantean queen from HR-Earth who tried to seduce him so she could kill him once he took off his armour.

He told her point blank he never takes off his armour under any circumstance---and that she didn't interest him sexually. At all.

If he wanted to he could bear a kid with every woman in Latveria.

While true Doom considers sex beneath him. He prefers to use that energy to furthur his goals. Like Batman. Only Bruce sleeps and has relationships with more women.

[Magneto Rocks]

Magneto X has it down pat. The problem is, Doom would only have a sexual relationship with an equal or near equal. But there ARE none. (Well, there was Valeria.) Such are the problems of being perfect by law.

[Magneto_X]

Valeria was pre-Doom. That's why he found her "worthy". He was still a normal guy (or as close to one as he could get to be).

Post-Doom is a different story. That Doom still loved her but viewed her only as a means to an end: to get power. He didn't hesitate to kill her at that stage.

[david r]

I live to serve Doom !

[Taskmaster]

I live to serve Doom !

We ALL live to serve DOOM!

[Alan2099]

Proof that is really is Richards fault.
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000940y7bt2.jpg

[Dark Soul # 7]

Of course Doom rules.
How many villains can say that they managed to take control of the world and then give it up because he found it boring?

[MAK15]

I think that the best thing about Doom is how he returns.
he dies, he comes back in a fashion that knocks the unstable socks offa the fantastic team.

other than that, the only time I really liked doom was when he had Latverias protection as a major goal.

[DoctorDoom]

A thread long overdue. Doctor Doom = Greatest character in fiction.

What we really need is a World War Doom where DOOM takes on everyone. United.

And of course, wins. Sentry? Hulk? Pah. They'll be licking Doom's metal boots.
Indeed. I like the way you think. long live MagnetoRocks!

[david r]

To all who haven't read it, I strongly recommend Essential Super-Villain Team-Up. It's basically Essential Doctor Doom and has many surprisingly good tales focusing on Doctor Doom.

And yes...Doom conquers the world in this tome also !!

[will_butler]

I fully admit that I've not read all that much Doom (Triumph and Torment and his part in Secret Wars were awesome, though). And the only reason for that is because he doesn't have his own book. I'll be damned if I'm going to read the Fantastic Fops on the off chance that Doom appears. How in God's name is it that the greatest villain (or hero, depending on how you look at things) in all of comic-dom has consistently lost to a complete loser whose only ability is to stretch and act pompous?

I'm currently working at becoming a professional writer (like every other oxygen-breathing mammal on the planet, I know). I swear before all of my fellow internet nerds that if I'm ever given the opportunity, there will be an alternate (at least) Earth in the Marvel Universe in which Doom rules something very like a utopia. It would center around his repeated triumphs at thwarting Reed Richards' terroristic plots to overthrow his one world government centered in Latveria.

Will

[BYC]

Anybody else find it a little weird that Magneto_Rocks and Magneto_X both are praising Doom? :)

[DoctorDoom]

Anybody else find it a little weird that Magneto_Rocks and Magneto_X both are praising Doom? :)
Indeed "King".

ANd that's okay. Doom love is good love.

[david r]

So, Doctor Doom vs. Darth Vader.
Who wins?

[Alan2099]

Personally, I'd really love to see more of the alternate Dr. Doom's world that was shown in A-Next.

I mean, Dr. Doom being raised by Red Skull, then taken control of the world and forcing every superhuman in it to either join is "team" or be executed has tons of potential. Pity we didn't get the chance to actually see the Avengers fight Doom's Thunderguard.

[Expletive Deleted]

So, Doctor Doom vs. Darth Vader.
Who wins?The Rumbles board.

Hint, hint.

[DoctorDoom]

Yes...Keep this Richards Hate flowing...

Oh and nice pic Expletive Deleted. love the Hulk and his bride.

[Just a Shadow]

I honestly never understood why people claim that Reed is smarter than Doom when Reed clearly is not.

Doom tends to lose more often than not because he has problems controlling his emotions which causes him to act rashly. Reed wouldn't be nearly as effective as he is if he had Ben's temper control. But the real reason why Doom loses is very simple. It's because if he ever completely wins, the Fantastic Four is gone and so are all the other heroes. By virtue of being the bad guy, he cannot win.

Everyone talks about how Reed saw a mistake in Doom's calculations. So what? It's not like Reed has never made a mistake. His powers are the result of one of those mistakes. And how can we be sure that Doom would have had the same results if not for Reed? Doom has a tremendous ego. The second Reed said there was a mistake, Doom's pride took away the chance of his ever double checking the figures. If not for Reed, maybe Doom would have checked those figures again on his own.

Plus in the past, Doom has accomplished things that Reed never did. In FF 350 he cured Ben. Reed had been trying for years, but Doom actually did it!

Doom's failures are due to his need for recognition. He's the smartest person on Earth (well tied for it), but that's not enough for him. He needs people to recognize it and laud him for it. His ego also precludes him from being able to admit that there is actually someone else out there that is that good, although once in awhile he does show respect for Reed's mind.

The other reason why I think Doom fails is because I think he doesn't want to win. In the past he's taken over the planet and given it up because he was bored. Doom likes the conflict. Sure he'd be the greatest ruler in all of history, but at the end of the day he'd be bored to tears. Furthermore, if Reed dies, he'll be alone. Reed is the only person in the world who can comprehend the things that Doom sees. The only one who can really ever have an idea what it is like to be Doom. Finally, he can't defeat Reed because he doesn't actually want to kill him. He wants to humble and break Reed, but Reed, like Doom himself, is almost impossible to break. Reed's will never give in, and without his being humbled, the victory is worthless to Doom.

[StoneGold]

The Rumbles board.

Hint, hint.

No, they lose.