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Sir Tim Drake
02-28-2006, 08:31 PM
This is just to get an idea of the general consensus regarding this series.

EDIT: I was going to post a poll, but I accidentally screwed it up, so I'll turn this into a survey instead.

1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

If there are any more questions you think ought to be included on this poll, please suggest them.

Chris Thomas
02-28-2006, 09:17 PM
1. I have only read the tpb. will get the 2nd tbp. will start getting the series regularly now. the first tpb was amazing--so I can't imagine not following this for as long as waid writes it.

2. not a legion fan before. but I am one now. starting my archives collection--jumped into archives six for the start of the shooter era. now. I. am. hooked. my wallet hates thee legion!

3. neutral about their philosophy. the government that they kick against isnt' perfect either.

4. don't care about the 4rth wall breakage

to extrapolate on number one--I feel waid truly love the LOSH and writes these as new stories.. but also as sort of a tribute to nostalgia. after reading the first tbp, I went out and found the 2 single LOSH issues that waid attributes to starting his love of comics and states influenced every story he wrote afterwards. they are absolutely amazing--way before their time.. stratch that--they are timeless.

Bat-Mite
02-28-2006, 09:18 PM
1) Yes, I quite like it.

2) No, it's not the first Legion series I have read.

3) That Earth is too square and needs to be unsquarified? Sure.

4) Mark never breaks the fourth wall in his stories, only in the mail section, and I think that's a nice way of answering the mail.

AllisterH
02-28-2006, 09:18 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

If there are any more questions you think ought to be included on this poll, please suggest them.

1) The mystery behind Dream-girl & Brainiac plus the addition of Supergirl means I'm hoked for the forseeable future.

2) Became of fan during the post ZH Legion but left before the series ended as my favourite characters were getting any screen time since the legion had become a little bit too big.

3) *Shrug*, I just hope eventually we get to see what the adults have to give up being parents. For example, I would love to see say Invisible Kid's dad history being a high flying adventurer but because he became a dad, he decided to start thinking about his son's future.

4) Since it only happens around the letters page, or like the recent, "Meet the legionnaires", nope.

Bored at 3:00AM
02-28-2006, 09:37 PM
1) Aside from Kitson sometimes bland or stiff art, I'm really enjoying LSH. The various heroes are distinct and interesting, but the villains have been a bit lame thus far though.

2) I've checked out almost every LSH series and never really got the appeal. This is the first time a LSH book has hooked me.

3) Eat it Grampa! That's damn funny.

4) The fourth wall-breaking letter columns are one of my favorite parts of the comic.

Shellhead
02-28-2006, 09:52 PM
"1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?"

I intend to keep reading it for the forseeable future, although I am not looking forward to Supergirl, and the last few issues have been less enjoyable than the first few issues of this run.

"2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?"

I have tried Legion a few times before. I had a b/w reprint paperback-sized book of some old Legion adventures from way back, then I tried a few issues during the Disco Era, plus a couple of issues that tied in with one of the post-Crisis crossovers in the late 80's. I sort of enjoyed each era, but found it difficult to get hooked due to the large cast of characters.

Btw, I wonder where I could find a copy of that paperback collection again. It had a great cover, showing lots of Legionnaires in flight. I think it was published around 1976. I traded my copy in 1977 for several Doc Savage paperbacks, which was the common trading currency in my group of friends back then.

"3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?"

I guess so. And I really enjoy saying, "Eat it, Grandpa!" I swear that I'll still be using that one in the retirement home someday. I would like to see them tone down the youth movement angle somewhat and look at some other issues in their era.

"4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?"

I only really notice it in the letter pages, and it's fun there. I suppose there has been some commentary on the nature of fans at times, and I don't mind that either.

Killer Frost
02-28-2006, 10:12 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

If there are any more questions you think ought to be included on this poll, please suggest them.
1) I plan to continue reading it as long as it's published unless a really crappy creative team follows Waid and Kitson. Even then, I'd give it a fair chance because the characters are so irresistable.

2) I've been a fan since the early/mid 1970s but I dropped it in disgust during the Giffen-Bierbuam run and only started reading again about 5-6 years ago. I've read everything written since 1958 with the exception of a few stories published outside the regular series. I was upset at first when it was rebooted in 2004 but it turned out to be well worth it.

3) If I lived in the 31st century, I'm pretty sure I'd be hanging out in Legion Plaza regardless of my age. Hell, they just saved the whole freaking universe.

4) It's used to brilliant effect in the letter column but I'd probably object if he ever did it in a story.

You could add a question or two about the artwork maybe. I think Kitson's doing a fine job and now that the series is going to standard 22-page format, there'll probably be fewer fill-in artists. It hasn't been too bad though. Ken Lashley and Patrick Ollife did some nice work in the last few issues. The coloring in the preview looks terrific. Much better than the muddy stuff in the early issues.

As for Supergirl joining the Legion, I'm all for it because I think it's going to rachet up the fun, and listening to the enthusiastic comments of new readers is a lot more pleasant than listening to the complaints of some the grumpy old grandpas who won't let go of the ancient past.

Babylon23
02-28-2006, 10:52 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I've enjoyed the series so far, and intend to continue. However, the series isn't perfect, and I'd like Waid to get deeper into the personalities of the members.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

I read some Legion reprints of the disco era. I really got into the series during the "5 Years Later" Giffen period, which I consider to be one of the most under-rated runs in comics history. Once Giffen left, I dropped the book. I've tried it a few times, but this is the first time that I've gotten into the book since Giffen.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

It's an interesting philosophy that works well in the context of the series. I haven't really thought about whether I agree or disagree with it.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

Doesn't bother me at all.

Core
02-28-2006, 11:14 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I'm going to keep reading LEGION after it becomes SUPERGIRL AND THE LEGION, but I'm afraid. Very afraid, but trying to have faith.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

First dance for me.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

To be honest, the political philosophy in the book seems pretty amorphous to me. The "Don't trust the Man" message is pretty clear, as is the distrust of age, but other than that, I'm drawing blanks when trying to come up with tenents of their beliefs.

That said, I have a pretty strong distrust of the Man myself, so generally I would say I agree with their philosophy.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

Breaking the fourth wall on the letters page is fine with me; I really kind of like it. I haven't noticed too much of that kind of thing in the stories being told, unless the embedded comentary on comic culture counts. But I like that aspect of the book, so I'm cool with it either way. :)

Ryan K
03-01-2006, 08:32 AM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I'm onboard longterm. Its one of my favorite series currently.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

I was a moderate Legion fan. I'd read a lot of the first Reboot stuff when I was a teenager. I dropped LoSH and Legionnaires when I quit reading comics and when I came back I was too behind to jump back in. This new reboot sparked my interest again and I've been going back to complete my collections.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

Tough question. In general I'd say I disagree. I like some of their points but as a whole I'm not a fan. I really dislike the "eat it grandpa" slogan. But the philosophy doesn't bother me, for some reason most of it just goes in one ear and out the other (so to speak) when I read it. I'm much more interested in the characters, team dynamics, and other storylines.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

The letter's page is one of the best things in comics currently IMO. Its such a brilliant idea I'm shocked its never been done before on a regular basis (has it?). I look forward to every one.

Matt Algren
03-01-2006, 09:35 AM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?
I dropped it after the issue where I-Kid convinced Cos to come back. It was going to be one of two remaining DC books (along with Jonah Hex) after "Infinite Crisis purge '05", but I realized that I just don't like anybody in the book and don't give a fig what happens to them. I don't want Legion to be this in-fighting heavy.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?
My first issue was Legionnaires #1. I quickly hunted down all the LOSH issues from the five-year gap on.
3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?No. It seems to be grounded in childishness, which to me proves the adults' point. "We're bored, so let's make trouble" is not a philosophy I can get behind. Also, I -love- Mark Waid when he's not doing thinly-veiled political commentary. Legion is just painful to me.
4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?I actually enjoyed that part. If they're doing it every issue, it might be a bit much, but I haven't seen it so I can't comment too much. (Not that that's ever stopped me before!)

Ontir
03-01-2006, 04:28 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I'm giving it a few more issues, to see what they actually do with Supergirl, but I'm not promising anything!

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

No, I've been buying the Legion books for nearly 33 years.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

The Legion doesn't have a real political philosophy. It's a muddled combination of various dystopias, but then pretends NOT to be dystopic.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

Breaking the 4th Wall isn't among the things that annoy me about this current version. The characters are nearly unrecognizeable, the stories are disjointed, and TPTB don't bother to identify villains from issue to issue. If they don't care about these characters, why should we?

I try to be nice, because I want the book to be good, and I've been fortunate enough to have gotten several e-mails from Barry, all of which have been quite nice. I also really like his work on the book. Far more, infact, that I'd anticipated. Still, I miss the Legion!

hondobrode
03-01-2006, 04:58 PM
This is just to get an idea of the general consensus regarding this series.

EDIT: I was going to post a poll, but I accidentally screwed it up, so I'll turn this into a survey instead.

1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I started reading comics in the mid 70's and read LSH on and off as I could get it, along with all the titles back then in the stone age of newsstand distribution. I always liked them but it wasn't until Superboy departed and the rest of the Legion was really left to develop more that I really grew to love them. I liked the fact that Superboy (Superman as a boy - kinda overexposed for my taste) was out of the picture and the others could find their way. They really hit their stride when Levitz and Broderick were on the title, but when Keith Giffen came aboard, well, nothing was ever the same after that ! The Great Darkness Saga made me a hardcore Legion fan and that got amped up even more when Giffen and the Bierbaums redid everything with the original "jump ahead" kitsch. I have enjoyed every version of the Legion since Superboy left but especially enjoyed v4 and thought the LSH / Legionnaires dual titles was brilliant but oh well. Yes, Waid and Kitson are doing a nice version here that nicely satisfies and I am definitely going to stay around and am esp intrigued with Supergirl coming on board.


2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

see above


3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

It's the essence of going through puberty and "Question Authority". We all want to change the world. Instead of "why", why not ask, "why not ?" It's an interesting idea and really the Legion acts as kind of the best of the best of each of their representative worlds in this super elite ultimate political activisit army / defenders of freedom movement. I like it. You could even take it a step further and say it's the essence of progressivism (rethinking the landscape) and conservatism (it was good enough for my father and his father).


4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

As everyone else has pointed out, it's only in the letter's page, and was not uncommon in those letter's pages of the Silver Age. Marvel even had Hulk answering letters pages, in text only, back in the day. It's a nudge-nudge-wink-wink homage to a lighter time that was more innocent and fun that Mark Waid is referencing and is not for some of us older readers who remember some of those old nostalgic columns when people actually * gasp * wrote and snail mailed letters of comment to the publisher and sometimes they were even published in print :eek:

stealthwise
03-01-2006, 05:32 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I gave it six issues, it intrigued me, but then I dropped it due to lack of interest and funds. There are about a dozen DCU titles that I'm more interested in at the moment and would have to drop before I'd add it back to my pull list.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

I've read some older Legion stuff from the 70s/80s, but was never really a fan overall.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?
I'm not aware of it... is it "Suck it Grandpa!" ?

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?
Never noticed it.

Adem
03-01-2006, 05:48 PM
1) I am reading it and will continue to do so until it stops entertaining me which doesn't seem to be anytime soon.

2) This was my first taste of the Legion.

3) Yes,most of the time.

4) It doesn't really bother me.

Black Atom
03-01-2006, 05:50 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I'm giving it a few more issues, but it edges ever closer to my drop list.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

I'm a pretty big fan of the Legion, especially the last version, which is really the only reason I'm still buying the book.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

This is what really hurts the book for me. Despite the nobility of their actions, this Legion seems more interested in shaking up the status quo and sticking it to authority than the altruism of the heroes that inspired them. This is reinforced by their childish motto "Eat it, grandpa". They rather blanketed bigotry against "old people" kinda undermines their whole mission and makes them come off as self-righteous and unlikeable.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

I actually enjoy that bit.

Ultraman Max
03-01-2006, 05:51 PM
1) It's on "wait it out" status, especially with the line wide price increases coming. There are some funny moments that give the title a messure of enjoyability but there doesn't seem to be that much else going for it.


2) Was already a fan

3) I don't mind it, though it's motivations seem fairly muddled as to almost not be there.

4) Those moments, particularly in the letter column, are usually the best part of a given issue.

Zero Hunter
03-01-2006, 06:00 PM
1 - It has one more issue. I have been really disapointed with it so far, and think that with nearly a year and half under it belt the characters might be fleashed out a little more, and not just sterotypes. That and the fact that so many of the characters are really just so unlikable. Brainy, Cos, Ultra Boy, Invisable Kid, Atom Girl, and others are just not really people I want to read about. It seems like the more time Waid gives to certain characters the more unlikable they become. About the only one who has gotten alot of attention that I like is Lightning Boy and that is propably only becaue he hasn't been used as much as the others. Seriously if issue 16 does not knock me out it will be my last issue, and by the preview pages I saw I don't hold out alot of hope.

2 - No I have been reading Legion books since Superboy/Legion 198 and have all the Archives of the stuff before that.

3 - It just seems to vague for me. It all comes across as so heavyhanded most of the time time and reads like a what it is. A middleaged guys views of the 60's transplanted into the future. Waid has never really given a reason why society has become like it has in his universe, and like others have said it just goes to far against basic human nature to work. If everyone is so repressed and antisocial how do they even mange to meet and have kids in the first place? It all is just to much a stretch for the most part.

4 - I think the letter pages are wasted space in this book. With over 20 characters it could be much better used giving us some insights into who they are and not wasted with goofy filler. If Waid wanted to see how to do a letter page in a funny way without wasting page after page he should look at how they do it in Cable/Deadpool. It is 5 times as good and only takes on page.


Honestly I think this new series is for new readers. Which is great if it worked, but judging by the numbers it didn't work nearly as well as they thought it would. They thought they could get both the new and the old, and maybe they could if Waid had come in with a better opening arc. A first arc that took over a year was by far the dumbest move he could have made, and the fact that the arc it self was not really that great only worsened the problem.

This is all just my opinion by the way so no need to flame me if you do not agree.

WAYNIAC5
03-01-2006, 11:13 PM
I love teh legion always have. Have read iot sold through a lot worse patches than this. I think the new direction is solid and I feel like waid is/will distance himslef from the agism storyline . I look at this as his YEAR ONE not the overall direction of the book but a means to that end. I think the LSH getting UP snactioning recently is a sign of where he's going...

Gingold
03-02-2006, 08:44 AM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I've liked it quite a bit so far, though I wasn't thrilled with the latest issue. (Probably more because I really,really wanted Tyroc, Blok, and Dawnstar back as regulars than because of the quality of the issue).

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?
I was a casual fan. My favorite run of Legion was the Giffen 5 Years Later version, though I can understand why many hardcore Legion fans don't like it. It's a pretty radical departure from the core concept of the series, but it's good comix regardless.

I read issues of the previous reboot off and on. It was hit and miss. I liked the new characters, particularly XS and Kid Quantum, though I hated the kewl new codenames. "Lightning Lad" is more elegant than "Live Wire" in my book.



3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

You betcha. The kids're alright.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

The letters columns are cute, but I don't want to see them in every issue. Maybe 3 or 4 times a year, max.

Quislet
05-08-2006, 11:00 AM
This is just to get an idea of the general consensus regarding this series.

EDIT: I was going to post a poll, but I accidentally screwed it up, so I'll turn this into a survey instead.

1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

If there are any more questions you think ought to be included on this poll, please suggest them.


1. I have read all the issues from 1 thru 17 and I am enjoying it. I will continue for the forseeable future.

2. I've been reading it regularly since the late 60's

3. I doesn't bother me at all. It's all pure fiction man.

4. I love the way they do the letters column in the legion book. I wish more DC books did it this way.

NotSuper
05-08-2006, 01:28 PM
1) I'll keep reading it for as long as it's published. Waid and Kitson have gotten me really interested in the team.

2) This is the first Legion series I've actually collected. But I have read the older stories.

3) I tend to agree (to an extent).

4) He doesn't break the fourth wall except in the letter columns.

ApexPredator
05-08-2006, 02:58 PM
1)Yes, this is the one book that I have been on the lookout for and have been so impressd with.

2) I managed to get into the legion just before this reboot. At a time when I didnt even know a reboot was coming. I just started picking up all the old back issues I could find and then going online to find out more, which really got me interested. When I found out about the reboot I was sooo excited and I havent been disappointed yet. Because yes it seems like a long time to take 12 issues to tell a story, you have to look a little further in the future and realize that the wait is only uring the time of publishing. Once you own them all, you can blaze through 17 issues in one day, like I just did last friday...Whew! It was good.

3) I like that they are youth, and they are a little backward in their philosophy. I mean "Eat it Granpa" won't be so easy to say with a straight face when cosmic boy is eating his nutra-pap through a straw. But like teens...they are not perfect. I think now that they are sanctioned, this attitude will ease off.

4) Seriously, the letters stuff has been some of the best parts about the book. I think this entire series is a metaphor for collecting comics and not enough people have picked up on that. Once they do though, it will be recognized as the quality book it is. Still I am very curious about that one back-up they had where the scenes of havoc after their HQ fell, were being mirrored by Silver Age comic bok covers...that was interesting and it just seemed that there was an avenue they were exploring which hasn't been quite revealed yet.

LONG LIVE LEGION!!!!

Sharkerbob
05-09-2006, 04:41 AM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?
After finding and reading it several times at the local Barnes and Nobles, I finally caved in a bought the first TPB, because I really liked the characters and the art. Currently waiting for the next TPB to come out later this month, and plan to buy it. I guess I'll basically just collect it on a book to book basis until it no longer interests me. Which means I'll be way, way behind on the actual schedual of the stories, but, that's the price I pay for stick to trades, I guess. I just don't have the means or motive to get the individual issues.


2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?
I read the Legionnaire: Foundations book before, and I saw their guest appearances in Amalgam Comics and Superman: The Animated Series. And Marvel's Imperial Guard if you want to count that. I have since read the Great Darkness Saga, and that's pretty much the extent of my Pre-Waid/Kitson experience. That said, I have to say that while I have for quite a while been a fan of the idea of a "Legion of Superheroes", I never really got into the actual title until this current run. Great Darkness Saga was at once amazing for its villain and sense of epic danger, but also very dated to me for its dialogue. Foundations was interesting, but there was no character focus, so I couldn't get into it. So... I guess this is my first exposure to the Legion starting from scratch, and so far, I like it.


3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?
I have little to no tolerance for people who feel the need to "damn the man" and disrespect their government and elders simply because they feel the need to whine and bitch: you'll notice that often times the people that bitch the most are also the most privilaged. Revolution is serious, culture-shattering business, not some fad kids should be a part of because its "cool". So I find "Eat it Grandpa" to be a pretty annoying philosophy when its constantly pounded into you. That said, I don't let it get to me, and considering the "perfect utopia" dystopian setting, I can accept it within its context. But if it keeps up, without giving a reasonable balance of both sides (I want to see good logic and motive for both sides) I may be forced to drop the book out of annoyance.


4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?
Having never read the magazine format, I haven't seen the letter columns and their 4th wall breakage. If I find a store that has them, I'll look through it, sounds like fun.

Tennoarashi
05-09-2006, 06:02 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I definitely intend to continue reading it. Absolutely.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

My first. I had a generic overview of what the series and characters were sort of like, but the Zero Reboot never did it for me.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?This was.... something peculiar since the kids seem to be involved with absolute upheaval of a current status quo. It's as though they recognize the problems one can critique but can't seem to articulate them.

I agree with their political philosophy, but I'm not sure that many of them fully comprehend what their own message means.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

I really enjoy it. I adore those letter pages and.... they're just so fun.
I just wish Nura had (will?) gotten one...

Erwin Heinek
05-09-2006, 08:21 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

1) Gonna keep reading for a while since the Supergirl storyline actually has me intrigued when I was initially leery.
2) Very longtime Legion fan.
3) Not really sure what yo mean by political stance. The generation gap stuff comes across a bit forced to me. But the stuff about forcing society to be more open could be interesting.
4) I don't recall much 4th wall breaking in the actual stories but the lettercolumn stuff doesn't bother me.

Velvis
05-10-2006, 01:28 PM
I think that with Empire, Waid entered a purple patch, a new level of sophistication that I hope continues. I think that this Legion is one of the best things Waid has ever done, and that it's on par with the best Legion runs ever.

I hope they continue with doing the letters section in comics form.

Yoda
05-11-2006, 07:51 AM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I've been enjoying it since the relaunch, and plan on sticking with it for the foreseeable future. I think the recent Supergirl issues have been a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to where its' going.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

This is the first Legion series i've read. But since i started with this, i've been picking up back issues of the DnA Legion.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

I like "Eat it Grandpa" and i can agree with the philosophy in the context of the world the Legion occupies.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

Are you talking about the mail colums? I've really enjoyed those, has he been breaking the 4th wall in the book and i'm just not picking up on it? haha?

Stanlos
05-12-2006, 09:32 AM
This is just to get an idea of the general consensus regarding this series.

EDIT: I was going to post a poll, but I accidentally screwed it up, so I'll turn this into a survey instead.

1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

If there are any more questions you think ought to be included on this poll, please suggest them.


I dropped it after I think 4 issues because I was a little disenchanted with the sameness of the vision of the future. However, I picked it up when Supergirl became a member and I find it very entertaining. With crisp, detailed art that is not exploitative.

Which is to say, it rocks. I may even hunt down the back issues.

The Sentry
05-12-2006, 09:54 AM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I'm definitely on board for the foreseeable future.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

Long time Legion fan.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

Doesn't bother me so long as the stories are good.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?


I am enjoying it.

redlantern2051
05-14-2006, 05:29 AM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I love it. I am not thinking about cancelling, for me, its a really good title.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

I have a complete collection of DNA Legion, but because I came in halfway thru, my details on it are a bit sketchy. I want to sit down and read it again. However, I do find Waid's version superior, and waaaaaay more accesible.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?

In that context, I agree with it.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?

Couldn't care less, altho it is funny. I probably would prefer if they did two stories like they have done on occasion, and just confine the letters to one page, or at most 2. More than that seems like a waste. Its not really THAT funny! :-)

Overall its a 4 star comic for me!

CaptainAwesome
05-14-2006, 07:31 AM
I didnt like the first year. It was just too much. Too long, too big, too dark. But since Supergirl came to the team it seems to be a more lighthearted and fun book to read. I know some people find it less mature since she came, but it seems like when she came all the annoying "teen angst" is gone.

Rokk
05-14-2006, 01:08 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it?

I will always read the Legion because I have a complete run of the Legion all the way back to the Adventure comics. So, I'm a completeist and will still get it no matter how terrible the title may get.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand?

Die hard Legion fan all the way back to when I was just 6 years old.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy?.

I think that the kids versus adults storyline has gotten old very fast. I don't think that it adds much to the title.

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it?.

I have no problem with it. I absolutely love the reader letter column with the characters answering them. Good stuff.

My only real complaint with the title at this point is Supergirl hijacking the title from the Legion.

Ontir
05-14-2006, 02:32 PM
The arrival of the Dominators is the only thing making me consider sticking around past #18!

brenticles
05-14-2006, 10:43 PM
1) If you ever read the Waid/Kitson Legion, do you intend to keep reading it for the foreseeable future, are you going to give it a few more issues to see if it improves, or have you already dropped it? I have read every issue and I like it quite a lot. I will continue to buy in the foreseeable future.

2) Is it the first Legion series you have read, or were you already a Legion fan beforehand? I have read bits and pieces of other Legion series, but this is the first complete series that I have collected.

3) In general, do you agree or disagree with the Legion's political philosophy? Ummm...

4) Are you annoyed by Mark's constant breaking of the fourth wall, or do you enjoy it, or are you ambivalent about it? The letters section is a lot of fun. At least we are getting answers to reader questions in the book.