Green Arrow silver age?

[Agentum]

Ok, now i have read the Showcase witch ends with Showcase #85 when Neal Adams gives Ollie the new look, it's here it began imho.

But i have a question about the silverage GA, when did his backup strips start in Adventure Comics and Wolds finest Comics?
The Showcase begins with AC 250 and WFC 95, but it must have been some years that was lost before this?
Why did they deside to not publish those? are they much worse than the ones in this book?

[Jukka Laine of Finland]

GA began in More Fun Comics # 73, 1941. In 1946, he moved from there to Adventure Comics. From 1942, also World's Finest Comics had Green Arrow in it.

He appeared in a lot of stories before the stories in the Showcase edition. There was no difference between the Golden Age or Silver Age Green Arrow until Neal Adams's new look.

[Agentum]

Yes thank you, but that would be Golden Age GA then or is there no difference really?
Was he an ongoing all the time in the late 40s and in the 50s?

[prince hal]

Why did they deside to not publish those? are they much worse than the ones in this book?

We kicked this around in another thread and the consensus seems to be that because there was a significant change in the art style with those issues, it must have seemed like a good demarcation point. Jack Kirby did a few stories, including an updated origin, and then Lee Elias, whose work smacks of Toth and Caniff (and looks great in black and white). Both look much different from George Papp, who was the regular artist up until then. (At least one of his stories is in that Showcase book: you'll see the contrast right away.)

[Slam_Bradley]

Yes thank you, but that would be Golden Age GA then or is there no difference really?
Was he an ongoing all the time in the late 40s and in the 50s?


An ongoing backup.

Like the other "continuing" features (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman) there isn't a clear dividing line between the GA and the SA Green Arrow like there is with say, Flash or Green Lantern. So comic historians have looked for certain changes in the way the strip is presented. In GA's case it is usually when Kirby took over the strip.

[Agentum]

Ok, i understand then, i guess they don't want to publish golden age stuff in Showcase format only silverage and newer.
Yes i understand that he always was an backup hero untill Grells run in the 80s-90s.

Thank you, Kiitos, for your answers :D

[Captain Jim]

Ok, i understand then, i guess they don't want to publish golden age stuff in Showcase format only silverage and newer.

I believe that's correct.

Yes i understand that he always was an backup hero untill Grells run in the 80s-90s.

Well, yes and no. He received Neal Adams' "new look" in Brave & Bold #85 (not Showcase #85, as you say in your original post). That was in August, 1969. From there, his story continues when the Green Lantern book is re-titled "Green Lantern/ Green Arrow" (#76) in April, 1970. For the duration of this title's run, he shares top billing with GL. (This is where Denny O'Neil really crafted the personality that we associate with Ollie today. And the art, of course, was by Adams.)

[Captain Jim]

There was no difference between the Golden Age or Silver Age Green Arrow until Neal Adams's new look.

Well, I think that might be a bit of an overstatement. If nothing else, I think GA & Speedy might have gotten different origins over time but, all and all, it was still pretty insignificant. And the cut-off point would still be pretty arbitrary.