Beast, Gambit NOT DEAD!!

[Ultimate X-Man]

Think about it , these are the two of the most popular marvel characters. They will probably come back as one of Apocalypse's henchmen (he told Sinister that he had to get 10 mutants)

[Purple Kitty]

Aww you totally got my hopes up :/

Beast was a Bendis death which means he was a cheap attempt at an emotional jab/forced character development for other characters, so I don't think he thought that far ahead.

I think his death will be revealed to be another illusion though. Ultimate Mastermind anyone? As for Gambit, we're not sure. We never actually saw him being buried. It's possible his kinetic powers could do something weird with stopping/starting his heart every once in a while.

I wouldn't have anyone dead in UXM right now. It's only issue 67! Maybe sometime after issue 100. Right now, only the more minor characters should be killed.

The Apocalypse idea was one too, though. But what Sinister was "talking" about was some transformation that he would undergo, presumably into a more powerful and intelligent 616-like state, as a new take on how he got his "Powers".

[Ultimate X-Man]

I thought Apocalspe wanted 10 mutants to have like 10 horsemen ,which would be too kool, but you could be right too

[Maleficentogre]

I'm mighty sure beast and gambit and dead. gambit has more of a shot at returning that beast does without some miraculous hokey retcon action.

[Beast]

No fair getting people's hopes up. And the theories that Beast and Gambit would return as Horsemen of Apocalypse at some point is long running one. Beast would even make sense, given he could be 'Dark Beast'. :)

[Sandoz]

Both characters should stay dead. It sucks when a fan's favorite character dies (believe me, I know: seven of my favorite X-Characters are dead in 616, and only one has a chance of ever returning) but I'd really like it if Ultimate could avoid the constant resurrections that have made death a joke in the regular Marvel universe. (Plus, the Gambit/Rogue relationship has never been as interesting as it is right now in Ultimate. Let's explore how Rogue is coping with her dead lover's voice in her head before thinking about bringing him back.)


I thought Apocalspe wanted 10 mutants to have like 10 horsemen ,which would be too kool, but you could be right too
I doubt that, since having more than four horsemen would screw up the entire reference to the Book of Revelation.

[zinderel]

I still think Hank is alive, out there trying to live a 'normal' life. Xavier knew he was unhappy as a 'hero' and since this Xavier is more manipulative, though not necessarily an utter bastard, he telepathically projected an image of Hank being crushed, letting Hannk go and live free of the X-Men. Perhaps with a SHIELD image inducer or something to hide his appearance.

Just a thought.

[Purple Kitty]

I'm mighty sure beast and gambit and dead. gambit has more of a shot at returning that beast does without some miraculous hokey retcon action.

Beast was a Bendis death, and thus can be safely reversed. I mean, what could you accuse bringing Beast back from the dead of, being disrespectful of the author who killed him off? That'd be kind of funny.

[Ultimate X-Man]

Since apocalyse wanted ten mutants he now has 7, the four sinister killed and Beast and Gambit

[Ultimate X-Man]

I mean six

[Toboe]

I think it is possible that Beast's dying may be one of those wehre Xavier fakes it just to be left alone and annoy Storm. Although...


Beast was a Bendis death which means he was a cheap attempt at an emotional jab/forced character development for other characters, so I don't think he thought that far ahead.

I totally agree with that, he did that on Ultimate Spdier-Man with Gwen and then he had no idea of what to do next, so he took the chance to kill Beast on UXM since he was leaving on the next issue so he wouldn't have to deal with it.

Gambit's death was weird, and since Rogue has his concioussness there are ways in which he might come back.
I'm not fond of the Apocalypse theory though, but anything is possible.

[Volk1]

I still think Hank is alive, out there trying to live a 'normal' life. Xavier knew he was unhappy as a 'hero' and since this Xavier is more manipulative, though not necessarily an utter bastard, he telepathically projected an image of Hank being crushed, letting Hannk go and live free of the X-Men. Perhaps with a SHIELD image inducer or something to hide his appearance.

Just a thought.

Man, that's actually a good one. Ult. Prof X is still such an unexplored character, as are all of them. Who knows what he has up his sleeve?

This is actually the best idea I've seen for Ult Beast's revival, better than the Horseman theory since that is really, stinkin' old.

[Crash-Man]

I hate speculative threads with titles that sound like news.

[Chou Blaster]

Both characters should stay dead. It sucks when a fan's favorite character dies (believe me, I know: seven of my favorite X-Characters are dead in 616, and only one has a chance of ever returning) but I'd really like it if Ultimate could avoid the constant resurrections that have made death a joke in the regular Marvel universe. (Plus, the Gambit/Rogue relationship has never been as interesting as it is right now in Ultimate. Let's explore how Rogue is coping with her dead lover's voice in her head before thinking about bringing him back.)


I doubt that, since having more than four horsemen would screw up the entire reference to the Book of Revelation.


Funny note;

There were orignaly 5.

The 5th being Conquest.

And my guess is the othe rmutants were to be used as body parts fo Apocalpyse or soemthing. (Be a funky Frankenstein's Creature style bad guy.)

[effang]

Both characters should stay dead. It sucks when a fan's favorite character dies (believe me, I know: seven of my favorite X-Characters are dead in 616, and only one has a chance of ever returning) but I'd really like it if Ultimate could avoid the constant resurrections that have made death a joke in the regular Marvel universe. (Plus, the Gambit/Rogue relationship has never been as interesting as it is right now in Ultimate. Let's explore how Rogue is coping with her dead lover's voice in her head before thinking about bringing him back.)


I doubt that, since having more than four horsemen would screw up the entire reference to the Book of Revelation.

agreed. i'm glad they died. i don't want anybody coming back. keep them dead

[Korinthian]

My sources tell me the next x-man to die will trip, hit his (or her) head, and drown in a puddle.

[Beast]

agreed. i'm glad they died. i don't want anybody coming back. keep them dead
Too late. Already several resurrections/returns in Ultimate. :)

[Huree]

The death of Beast was just plain retarded and pointless. The Death of Gambit as least served a cool purpose of having Rouge feeling him inside her head, but it was still too early in the run of the book for us to never see him again. Gambit is a cool character and i wouldv'e liked to see more stories with him in them i hope he returns at some point.

Admittedly i don't miss beast so much right now but there was no reason to kill him off so that he never shows up in the UU again. I'd vote to bring them both back at some point.

[Toboe]

Yes the death of Beast was a really stupid move, He hasn't been explored porperly, you don't fell bad for him, it just amkes you angry that they killed him so soon. But his death did serve a purpose. It turned Storm into one of the collest Ultimate X-Men, and I'm no Beast fan so I can do without him.

Gambit's death is very interesting, leaving the door open to see how Rogue deals with him in her head and there are ways in which he could return and have more storiees with him, beacuse he is a character that many people like and it would be just stupid to kill him after apperaing in only, like, five issues.
Mybe the can do something like the Betsy Braddock revival, with his conciousness being transferred to a comatose guy or to his own body if S.H.I.E.L.D. does has it and it hasn't decomposed yet or something...

[Darkjoe1990]

Since apocalyse wanted ten mutants he now has 7, the four sinister killed and Beast and Gambit


Has anyone considered that Mr.Sinister could just find ANY random mutant who died? If he has to kill them then O.K. he has 4, I just dont see why everyone counts Gambit and Beast but dont think any other dead mutants are out there, common somebody had to fall down a staircase while in glass form. - Dark joe

[WoodenDummy]

I mean six

7 if you count that kid Logan killed in the cave.

[Darkjoe1990]

Or 8 if you count the guy who got steped on in UXM 1, I'm sure he could easily find 10. The guy just needs some initiative and a clue. - Dark joe

[Gargus]

Even though its not technically true yet your thread title has to many spoilers. I didnt read your post or anyones replies for fear of learning something about the comic.

Dont ruin anything for anyone, if you indeed have that is.

[wingsofdamnation]

7 if you count that kid Logan killed in the cave.
anyone else think that that kid would make a great horseman. either death or famine would be great

[geordiesteve]

I hope gambit is dead. They have too many characters and don't know what to do with them anyway to fill an X-book, so you get the constant reshuffling as each new writer brings in their favourite batch of X-men, so I say kill off a few, clear the decks a bit. Anyway, the ultimate version seems a bit weak, I'm glad Juggernaut squished him.

[seaflower]

I think it is possible that Beast's dying may be one of those wehre Xavier fakes it just to be left alone and annoy Storm. Although...



I totally agree with that, he did that on Ultimate Spdier-Man with Gwen and then he had no idea of what to do next, so he took the chance to kill Beast on UXM since he was leaving on the next issue so he wouldn't have to deal with it.

Gambit's death was weird, and since Rogue has his concioussness there are ways in which he might come back.
I'm not fond of the Apocalypse theory though, but anything is possible.

I also think that Rogue having Gambit's conciousness is going to lead to some future story with him coming back. Reminds me of the Star Trek move, Search for Spock, where McCoy starts to go insane with the Vulcan playing with his mind.

[Wannabe]

How many times has the idea of Beast & Gambit being brought back as horsemen been brought up? I'm pretty sure it ranks between Alot and A whole lot.

[malephoenix]

I hate speculative threads with titles that sound like news.

Quoth for truth.

[rwsmith]

Beast's death could be easily reversed. Just "pull a Changeling" and say that it wasn't Beast who died, but rather the Ultimate version of the Changeling, a shapeshifter who died while impersonating Professor X in the regular Marvel U.

Why would he do this? Well, Fury might've felt that Beast was too valuable to be used as a field operative because of his extremely high intelligence level, particularly his proclivity towards the field of genetics. I think it would be cool if Beast eventually shows up and has been alive all this time working for either SHIELD or the White House on mutant research of some kind.

[Korinthian]

Beast's death could be easily reversed. Just "pull a Changeling" and say that it wasn't Beast who died, but rather the Ultimate version of the Changeling, a shapeshifter who died while impersonating Professor X in the regular Marvel U.

Bleh.

But you are right, bad writing is probably what will bring Beast back to life.

[Beast]

Bleh.

But you are right, bad writing is probably what will bring Beast back to life.
It's only fitting. It was bad writing that killed him. :p

[malephoenix]

Beast's death could be easily reversed. Just "pull a Changeling" and say that it wasn't Beast who died, but rather the Ultimate version of the Changeling, a shapeshifter who died while impersonating Professor X in the regular Marvel U.

Why would he do this? Well, Fury might've felt that Beast was too valuable to be used as a field operative because of his extremely high intelligence level, particularly his proclivity towards the field of genetics. I think it would be cool if Beast eventually shows up and has been alive all this time working for either SHIELD or the White House on mutant research of some kind.

And when Ororo finds out, five continents end up sunk from sudden flash floods of Atlantic proportions.

[DivineMalice]

My theory is that the death of beast was staged allowing S.H.E.I.L.D to recruit him.

and as for Gambit...since he was only in a couple issues, I assume he's permanently gone..saddly

[Froggy]

the kid that got killed in the caves would be a GREAT horseman