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DCKar2nist
02-23-2006, 06:00 PM
Who are they, where've they been and why weren't they effected by the Legion of Super Heroes retcon?

FanboyStranger
02-23-2006, 08:07 PM
Who are they, where've they been and why weren't they effected by the Legion of Super Heroes retcon?

They are an intergalactic law enforcement agency led by Vril Dox, ancestor of the Legion of Super-Heroes' Brainiac 5. They had their own series in the late 1980s-early 1990s, and had strong links to the 5-Year Gap/Giffen Legion, including members in common Valor (Mon-El) and Phase (Apparition/Phantom Girl lost in time) and Durlan shapeshifter who if I remember correctly turned out to be RJ Brande, orginal backer of the future Legion. The links between the titles sort of fell by the wayside after Zero Hour, when the future Legion underwent a revamp. L.E.G.I.O.N in the wake of Zero Hour restarted as R.E.B.E.L.S., which lasted a little over a year before cancellation.

No connections have been explained between L.E.G.I.O.N. and the Waid-Kitson Legion, but I think we can assume that Brainiac 5 is still the ancestor of Vril Dox.

DCKar2nist
02-23-2006, 08:08 PM
is this the first weve seen of them since REBELS?

Zero Hunter
02-23-2006, 08:15 PM
The LEGION are a private protection agency. If a planet choses to they hire LEGION to help them out when needed and stuff like that. They have been around since right after the Invasion mini series in 1989. They were founded by Vril Dox II who is the son of Brainiac, and for the most part a real bastard most of the time. Lobo was a member for most of the run although not by choice.

They had a series which ran for 70 issues and then became the book REBELS for 17 more issues. LEGION was a great series especially the first 50 or so issues.

LEGION had some ties to the Legion of Super Heroes but none were ever that binding. It wasn't effected by the reboots because the ties are not that strong and can be twisted up some to still make everything work without having to rewrite it. Plus the current Legion of Super Heroes book is just another alternate version and the last one still exists out there somewhere so any ties LEGION had to that one would not have been changed anyway since that timeline was not destroyed. I think the only thing that really changed alot was the Durlan after all the Legion boots.

Zero Hunter
02-23-2006, 08:20 PM
They were seen a few times since then. Showcase 96 issues 11 and 12 had a fun two parter where Brainiac 5 met up with Vril Dox II and Brainiac 1. And when they took care of the whole Phase/Apparation mess around Legion of Super Heroes 90something

Paul Newell
02-23-2006, 08:21 PM
is this the first weve seen of them since REBELS?
Vril Dox appeared in the last four issues of the Adam Strange mini. You can pick it up as a TPB called Adam Strange: Planet Heist and its a great story.

DCKar2nist
02-23-2006, 08:24 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. But I thought The old LSH was retconned out of existence becasue of the Teen Titans/Legion crossover thing. Just to be clear the current LSH title is the future of the DCU right? Not on eof those possible futures?

Zero Hunter
02-23-2006, 08:29 PM
No none of the Legions are the one true future of the DCU. They are all possible futures. The timeline from the Titans/Legion special was not destroyed at the end of that story. The version of the Legion from that timeline was lost in the timestream (except for Shikari who is somwhere in the Waid version), but there timeline still exists.

gmacch
02-24-2006, 11:38 PM
Just to be clear the current LSH title is the future of the DCU right? Not on eof those possible futures?


Unless something new is revealed in the next few issues, the current series is not the future of the DCU at all, it has nothing to do with the DCU. To the legionaires, the DCU is an imaginary world that exists only in comic books.

Of course, if that is true, how can Supergirl show up....

Anyways, as far as I can tell, and I may be wrong, the current LoSH is doing everything possible to show it has no connection to the DCU.

Paul Newell
02-25-2006, 04:00 AM
Heh...The latest issue of Wizard provides the connection.

Here's the relevant info:
Teen Titans/Legion Special #1 (September 2004)

Johns: The banging against the walls of the timestream is Superboy Prime.

Mark Waid: We knew when we were writing this that we'd eventually reveal the Legion that people had been reading about was an alternate universe version. It's been our best-kept secret all along-that the restart of Legion of Super-Heroes in Issue #1 of the new series was, in fact, our first glimpse into post -Infinite Crisis DCU.

Johns: We discussed the possibility that the Legion you had been reading, the Legion written by Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning, would be the Earth-2 Legion. If Earth-2 had survived the original Crisis, that would have been their Legion. The current Legion is the future of our Earth.

DCKar2nist
02-25-2006, 09:55 PM
Oh thanks for clearing that up for us Paul!