Boycotting Bond

[Haydn C]

I've just read this article on the BBC and well, I don't really know what to say. I mean these people need to get out more.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4738536.stm

Do they really think that this is going to stop people going to watch Casino Royale. Hell I'll being going to see a Bond film at the cinema for the first time in ages because of Daniel Craig.

[JohnPopa]

You're using the 'they need to get out more' argument on a comic book message board?

[Haydn C]

Ok fair point, but you know what I mean.

We don't like change, change is bad. That's all this is change, lets give the fella a fair crack of the whip I say.

[cactusmaac]

I wonder if any of these "fans" has actually read a Bond novel.

[Scorpion13]

Seriously.

Any of those fans read anything about what Flemming said about how Bond looked? He said he looked alot like Hoagie Carmichael (he was an old timey band leader), and lemme tell ya, that guy lookes like Hoagie Carmichael.

Yeah, maybe Bond was a little taller, but hey, Tom Cruise is in movies all the time, and he's 3 inches tall.

[BoosterBronze]

The thing about these things that annoy me is the use of the word 'boycott.'

If you don't like an actor, and chose not to see a film because of it, that's not a boycott. That's called, 'chosing not to see a film because of an actor in it.'

It's like these people think they're starting some kind of revolution.

[Tobias March]

The thing about these things that annoy me is the use of the word 'boycott.'

If you don't like an actor, and chose not to see a film because of it, that's not a boycott. That's called, 'chosing not to see a film because of an actor in it.'

It's like these people think they're starting some kind of revolution.

It's like when parent groups decide to take a stand against a movie, which somehow translates into meaning we will force you to not see this movie! Jumped up little people with too much time and power.

But I digress.

I might actual go see a Bond film with Craig in the role. Haven't seen one since Goldeneye.

[Basara]

"How can a short, blond actor with the rough face of a professional boxer and a penchant for playing killers, cranks, cads and gigolos pull off the role of a tall, dark, handsome and suave secret agent?" the site demands.

This quote from that article is the one the stands out the most. Have these idiots even seen a Bond movie?

I mean, movie Bond's have only the modern day male slut complete with a license to kill.

Killer. Check.
Cad. Check.
Gigolo. Check.

Sounds to me like this guy is perfect. But hey, what do I know?

[The Wayner]

It's not the actor I have a problem with it. If the masterminds behind the series (and yes, we know who you are) don't know 007 better than what they're gearing up to offer (and the poker substitute upsets my stomach, too), then they just need to scrap the whole damned thing.

[davids]

Some were in that time frame. The Bond movies only used the Bond book titles not the stories. :evilangry

[Greg Hatcher]

Well, of course it's ludicrous. But I have seen just as many enraged fans on this very board bitching about and occasionally threatening similar boycotts of (in no particular order) DC cartoons, Marvel movie adaptations, Buffy, Angel, Star Trek, Star Wars, LucasFilm, Paramount Studios, the Fox Network, the Cartoon Network, the WB... I mean, this is what fans do. If there was a way to tap into this free-floating seething fan fury that seems to permeate the internet you could solve the world's energy crisis at a stroke. It's like a perpetual motion machine.

All that being said... I'm a big fan of the original Fleming novels. I've been saying for years that I'd like to see a real James Bond Cold War period piece set in the late 50's, early 60's. And I like Daniel Craig. So anything that gets Eon closer to the books, I'm in favor of. But then, I liked Timothy Dalton's Bond and hated Roger Moore's, too, so what the hell do I know?

[StoneGold]

All that's really stupid about this is somehow the news picked up on it. Seriously, there are dumbass internet "boycotts" on pretty much damn near every entertainment property it seems like. Just this one got semi-legitamized with a news story.

[Cam63]

Seriously.

Any of those fans read anything about what Flemming said about how Bond looked? He said he looked alot like Hoagie Carmichael (he was an old timey band leader), and lemme tell ya, that guy lookes like Hoagie Carmichael.

That'd be this guy, then.

http://www.hoagy.com/images/pics/early_headshot_sm.jpg

[StoneGold]

And hell, it's not as if Connery was all that pretty.

http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/007/dn-1-0823-james-bond.jpg

I always felt that

[ragnarok_2012]

I hated the Roger Moore era. Timothy Dalton's License to Kill was a great little revenge story. It didn't feel like Bond to me, but it was a good movie in and of itself.

I'd love to see Quentin Tarantino FINALLY tapped to write and direct a Bond movie. I suspect he'd be extremely faithful to the books over the movies, but whichever route he took I'd go see it.

[Freelyx]

My only problem with the Bond franchise is the firing of Pierce Brosnan. I liked all his films as bond. His acting brought together some of the best of all the Bonds and he really did have a look most movie goers asociate with Bond.

Maybe thats not what the earlier Flemming books were trying to get across, but Bond has broken out of those... er... bonds... heh. He's more than the book, he has become a cultural icon for MI6 and action film lovers everywhere. His look to me is a part of that. Now all that said I am not "boycotting" a film just because a bunch of people are upset with the color of a guys hair. If I do go see it, I'll give it a fair chance for what it is. But I still believe they really messed up getting rid of Brosnan. Their belief that he was "getting to old" for the part was just stupid. You find a guy that fits a role that well, I say you stick with him till the box office doesn't pull enough to rationalise it any more.

But hey there have been lots of Bond's, throwing another on there doesn't surprise me. And Peirce will always have that in his resume now.

Timothy Dalton, Roger Moore, George Lazenby, Sean Connery, and now Peirce Brosnan.

[Captain Sarcasm]

That'd be this guy, then.

http://www.hoagy.com/images/pics/early_headshot_sm.jpg

Testing:

http://www.nndb.com/people/301/000104986/daniel-craig-1-sized.jpg

[Valmore]

I'd love to see Quentin Tarantino FINALLY tapped to write and direct a Bond movie. I suspect he'd be extremely faithful to the books over the movies, but whichever route he took I'd go see it.

Good gravy have you no soul? There's already enough bad Bond flicks, the last thing we need is Bond swinging a sword around to The Strawberry Alarm Clock. Tarantino sucks.

[Jared]

When Brosnan was first announced, I was kinda skeptical, as I thought he seemed like too much of a dandy Brit to play Bond. However, the first Goldeneye trailer I saw had me going "hot damn, that movie looks awesome", so I'll at least wait until we see *something* of the actual movie before I judge. That said, consider how much the second half of Die Another Day sucked, it's a shame that it's the note Brosnan has to bow out on.

[The Batman]

the only Bond that's never really had any appeal for me was Roger Moore and i guess George Lazenby as i never saw his Bond film. Brosnan, Dalton, Connery have all been good in one way or another and each have brought something unique to the role in my opinion.

i think that Craig has the potential to be a good Bond too though i can understand why some people might be a little skeptical about the idea of updating Bond for the 21st century. part of Bond's appeal might just be in the arachisms.

still with so little real information out there it seems kind of silly to be planning a boycott of the movie at this stage.

[StoneGold]

My two favorite Bonds were Connery, for the obvious reasons, and Dalton in Living Daylights, who was basically doing a Connery impersonation.

[Scorpion13]

Testing:

http://www.nndb.com/people/301/000104986/daniel-craig-1-sized.jpg


Well jeez, clean him up a little first. He looks like a homeless person, there.


Plus, that Hoagie picture is of him when he was really young.

Even so, it does look like him, doesnt it?

[sgt.candy]

i never saw it but i heard george lazenby nailed bond down back then

[Mia]

That'd be this guy, then.

http://www.hoagy.com/images/pics/early_headshot_sm.jpg


When I see that picture, I am glad that they actually cast (he-man) Sean Connery for the role. When he was asked who he thought would be good for the role. Flemming mentioned David Niven.


still with so little real information out there it seems kind of silly to be planning a boycott of the movie at this stage.

I agree. What I find puzzling is that the news is only coming out right now. The film has already started filming. So why come up with this right now?

The British press seems to have their knives out of for Craig, for what reason I'm not sure. I was told that it was because Craig was flippant/un-enthusiastic at the first news conference and refused to answer some questions posed by a nosey reported, in regards to his affair with Sienna Miller. However I can see that being the reason for a few papers, not a wide array.

Though I strongly suspect that it’s due to something else. James Bond has always been a great (unofficial) mascot for Britain. I think he is their pride and joy. And all the other 5 actors were tall dark and handsome, sophisticated and virile. Whereas Craig is short blond and ugly and really scruffy. Craig appears to be more appropriate to playing The Punisher or Wolverine.

I hope the film does so badly that Sony puts their foot down, buys out Craig’s contract and the part is given to someone more appropriate.

[EZMOHR]

I was born in the 70's, and I've never gone to the movie theatre to see a James Bond movie. Hell, I've tried to watch them, and I just can't. Then I read the novels, and thought they were entertaining. It's good to see they want to try something different with Bond. Make him a little more hard edge, a little less boozy. I don't know much about Daniel Craig, but I liked him in the few movies I've seen him in (Road to Perdition, Munich, The Jacket.) I hope he does good. All I do know is this...I will go to the movies to see Casino Royale, because at least it looks interesting.

[BlairH]

I'm boycotting the new Bond.


I have my reasons...

[meethraa]

I'll probably boycott this movie as I've boycotted every other one. I'm not exaclty a Bond fan...
At least the original version had Woody Allen in it. :D

[Freelyx]

Does anyone here besides me know where the Bond stories fist actually showed up?
Playboy magazine had the first stories, they were short fictions written WAAAAAAAAY back in the day. I don't recall the exact date. <--- If you want the answer highlight the text here.

I think the rough and tumble boozing and woman wooing character has been played well by at least three of the actors. Brosnan, Connery, and Moore. Dalton went too action and not enough playfulness. and I can't say anything about Lazenby as I never saw his one Bond film. Hopefully they can keep the cool gadgets, action and playfulness even if they are loosing the face of Bond. I'll let the film speak for itself when it comes out and then the box-office will say the whether they made a mistake or not.

[bodie_3_7_ci5]

Moore is certainly my favourite but that doesn't mean I dislike the other actors who portrayed Bond. I liked all the actors that played Bond. I think what has made the series so successful is that each actor was able to interpret Bond in their own way. I'm very interested in what Daniel Craig can bring to the role.

[Cam63]

I presume the books torture scene will be altered somewhat from Bond's wedding tackle copping the abuse.

[Scorpion13]

I presume the books torture scene will be altered somewhat from Bond's wedding tackle copping the abuse.


Weirdest, torture scene, ever.

[SMKSPY]

how can anyone boycott a movie? you cannot boycott some that only comes out twice.


Also, it seems the press is doing to Craig what they to lazenby back in the day.
I can never understand why fans get into such a fuss over things like this. I mean, if he does a horrible job as Bond, they will get a new one. Bronson was getting to old to play Bond. Look at Moore in Octopussy, he looks like he needs a wheelchair in some of the scenes. Besides Casino Royale or Daniel Craig cannot possibly be as bad as the actual first guy to play Bond and the half-ass television version they put out in the 50s.

[Michael P]

Does anyone here besides me know where the Bond stories fist actually showed up?
Playboy magazine had the first stories, they were short fictions written WAAAAAAAAY back in the day. I don't recall the exact date. <--- If you want the answer highlight the text here.

Men of Tomorrow put the date at the mid-to-late '50s.

[Perry Holley]

Earlier this week, veteran actor Christopher Lee called on critics to give the new Bond star a chance.

"People should not pass judgment until they have seen the film," said Lee, a former Bond villain and a distant cousin of 007 creator Ian Fleming.

Lee and Fleming were related? Damn, I did not know that.

[Perry Holley]

I'm boycotting the new Bond.


I have my reasons...Because the actor isn't properly Scottish, right?

[Greg Hatcher]

Because the actor isn't properly Scottish, right?

Hm. Bond was, according to Ian Fleming, only half-Scottish. On his father's side; his mother was Swiss.




...sorry, compulsive nerd footnoting. Sometimes I can't help myself. It's a kind of OCD.

[Stony]

I'm boycotting the new Bond.


I have my reasons...
Daniel Craig is a liberal...?

[Perry Holley]

Hm. Bond was, according to Ian Fleming, only half-Scottish. On his father's side; his mother was Swiss. I know. I just couldn't pass on the oppurtunity to rib Blair a little about the Scottish thing...

...sorry, compulsive nerd footnoting. Sometimes I can't help myself. It's a kind of OCD.Wait, you mean everyone doesn't do that?

[Gargus]

I dont care who bond is paticullary or what he looks like. I care about good stories and interesting charcters. Saldy goldeneye was the last good bond film.

Ever since goldeneye the movie have had lame charcters, boring storylines and more or less been giant commercials for BMW, rolex watches, ericsson phones and such.

Its like they take the underlying spects of the older films and jack them up so much all you left with is sex with beautiful women and copious amounts of action, expensive looking suits, expensive cars and gadgets.

Unless they drastically change it all around I couldnt care less if I ever saw a bond movie again. Not because they updated things but just because they dumbed it down.