WWE RAW Review: " The Road to Wrestlemania 22 ! "

[SUPERECWFAN1]

This is a 1st for me. 2 weeks without a RAW Review . So freshly back I will post some news and notes quickly and move onto RAW as usual.
NEWS

The links at WWE.com to WWE Byte This were removed leading to the apparent cancelation of that show. The fact that the Heart Throbs situation and rowdy fans calling in led to this it appears.

At todays RAW House Show , Tazz introduced Paul Heyman who told fans that ECW will return to PPV June 11th . ECW:One Night Stand II will take place at the Hammerstien Ballroom in New York.

WWE RAW scored a 3.3 Cable Rating in Its Thursday Night spot. The WWE is happy considering they didn't really promote it as heavy.

At the World Legends PPV , Scott Steiner vs Buff Bagwell was added. Its gonna be interesting to see how Steiner looks since he has really did anything since his release in 2004.

TNA has started charging $ 14.99 to stream PPV's online to fans.

Onto RAW

The Good: The show starts off with a replay of Thursday's RAW. In it Edge gets screwed over by Foley. His words as he beats up Mick at the end. Cena celebrates his GOD level it appears. Love how the company booked Edge to sh-t in this. :rolleyes:

The Diva's kick off RAW as were gonna see a 6 woman match to see the 1# contender at Wrestlemania. Candace pulls off the upset and cuts a hot promo. Ok...Candace is a damn hotty but can she even work decent to face the always fantastic Trish Stratus ? Because Trish as Whitney Housten once said " Is Every Woman ! "

Candace gets cut off as a pissed , angry Edge walks down. She gets ripped on as Edge mocks her mic work " Nails on a chalkboard " and he starts up about Foley. Edge is gonna send a damn message tonight to Mick Foley. Tonight Hacksaw Jim Duggen suffers his wraith. Yeah....I pity poor Edge but thats what politics do when your pushed down the card to wrestle guys that cleary you shouldn't at this time. Little wonder people are making jokes about this Wrestlemania sucking.

Good match with Duggen and Edge. I have to say Edge and Duggen know how to have fun out there as fans hate on Edge for rippin on Hacksaw. After Edge wins he lays a small beatdown and dares Mick to a match at Wrestlemania .

We see Big Show cutting a promo on what it means to him to make it to Wrestlemania. He's Headlined in 2000 and wants to do it again. He also wants to stop HHH from going this year. That would please him to stop HHH. I'd think he'd please everyone at home who wanna see a good Wrestlemania personally because right now...nothing appeals. Not even Edge/Foley in a brutal TLC match sad to say.

Benjimen vs Flair for the IC Title. It doesn't shock me how this came out. Benjimen however should have beat Ric cleanly but I'm thinkin they'll stretch the Benjimen/Flair program to Saturday Night's Main Event.

We see a Rob Van Dam backstage interview like Show's. Rob says that a Title shot means everything and he's never done it. But HHH and Show has. He wants to take his place among the immortals. Its his time...because he's R-V-D ! Nice promo....to bad thier doin lip service so HHH can get another run.

I just wanna say...those Spirit Squad guys can really work good. I think Mike , Danny , Mitch , Kenny and the last one can work very good. The end saw a Rockers Reunion as Marty Jannety showed up and saved his old partner from a beatdown.

Looks like Marty is back in the company like Tanaka lol.

Carlito decides to bring back the old Money in the Bank concept from last year. He beats down a jobber and slowly talks about it. I found this funny and I have to say....this guy has stepped it up. That move he pulled 2 weeks ago on Rob Van Dam looked great.

We see a clip of the next Introduction into the WWE Hall of Fame. Its Eddie Guerrero ! Ohh yeahh , least this is some kinda cosmic justice to satisfy the Guerrero family.

Vince cuts a promo saying he isn't mad at Marty Jannety for helping out his old friend Shawn . Instead he's gonna give him a WWE contract since he's fallen on bad times. Then Vince says the only way he gets one is if he joins the "Vince McMahon Kiss My Ass Club ".

HHH cuts a promo that as usual , he's the King of Kings . He goes back on his Throne as usual. Yep...nothing changes. We all can figure how this goes.

The match starts pretty fast and I have to say ..the crowd is hot for Rob Van Dam . They pop pretty loud and stay behind him so watchin the WWE spit on em as usual is always funny to see. You'd have to question it by now but hell...this is the same company that won't give us Shawn Micheals vs Rob Van Dam so what can ya say. ;)

Damn...those shots by Rob was f-ckin hardcore on Show! You could hear them ! HHH and Rob teamin up to chop down Big Show was funny and unique . I honestly laughed watching those 2 look at each other and bail each other out.

Yep and as usual HHH logic plays out. No one can get over. He sure as hell can't let Rob Van Dam go over even if the fans are cleary DEMANDING IT. Don't ya love politics in this company lol.

Cena comes out to do a staredown with HHH as fans boo. Yep....its that damn bad . I wonder if anyone has as least excitement as I do. I wish Edge and Foley luck...jesus thier gonna need it.

The Bad : Jesus....how bad and annoying are the Spirit Squad. Great talents from what I saw with Shawn Micheals ! Kenny using the freakin trampoline to clotheline Micheals was a great spot outside the ring.

Its just thier gimmick is dying a slow death . The cheers are so bad and lame you question them. If your gonna do a SNL sketch brought to WWE land , bring the best part. The music . Do the boombox part Vince....and the Spirit Squad will get over. Trust me.

Good to see that Dave Batista is starting to make his return. He should be fully back by May. Of course you know its bad whern ya clip down No Way Out to a few quick segments. I still don't see anything appealing at Wrestlemania. Maybe next year....I guess.

Overall: **1/2 outta 5. The show pretty much had a bad IC Title match with Benjimen/Flair. At least the Spirit Squad went over. Whats sad is the WWE won't push anyone besides Cena and its gettin damn bad. The Jersey fans were cleary behind Rob Van Dam but as usual . Nice to see....Rob go TNA. It worked for Christian. Least he's getting pushed and isn't being held down by politics as usual.


( New to RAW Review) How long Shawn Micheals vs Rob Van Dam in a program hasn't happened: 3 years & 5 months.

[Ray192]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DAMN YOU HHH!


I'm pissed now! :mad:

Can WWE even afford to pay me to watch WM now? I DON'T KNOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!

[sgt.candy]

is rob's contract up anytime soon?

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Raw was half and half with me. It basically had Shelton and Flair have a screwjob match where Shelton would get the title. I have no problem with that as it was time for Shelton to be put back in his true position on Raw. I have no problem with Candice getting pushed in a match..because we all know that Mickie/Trish is the WM main event of note. But Candice in the spotlight is ALWAYS a get thing for this fan in particular. I mark for her. Can't help it. The Eddie induction was EASILY the best moment of the night and the POP and HUGE Eddie chants for the annoucement was perfect. Eddie was the MVP of the business in '05 and now that he's gone, after all his exceptional work over his career that spans continents and other great wrestling cultures, he gets the HOF nod. He deserves it. Eddie's rise to the top is one of the greatest wrestling stories of all time. Thank you, Eddie indeed.

The main event? What can I say? RVD was the most over wrestler tonight next to Eddie and Flair and what happens? What happens? Exactly what I knew would happen. HHH would win and he would have the EXTREMELY predictable staredown with Cena. RVD kept the crowd in that lackluster triple threat? But what does he get for his troubles? False finishes, fake promises made to fans from his standpoint, and being apart of HHH's push. I feel sorry for the guy. No matter how many bash RVD for being a spot worker on this forum or any other, I figured he would be the most over face on Raw by WM time and just as predicted? He is. Did he get rewarded for the fans loving him so much? Of course not. Remember..it's all about the Game and you how you play it, right?

Raw gets a 6/10 for Eddie's induction, Shelton winning the belt, Candice being Candice, and RVD sacrificing for a WEAK...and I mean WEAK Wrestlemaina Raw main event. Yuck. :rolleyes:

[noh-varr]

I saw the last match and did HHH even do anything in the match beside the chair shot and the two pedegrees? It was mostly Big Show and RVD. The crowd was hugely behind RVD, I even caught a real quick ECW chant lol.
And that interview before hand with HHH sucked big time. I really wanted him to shut up! Sigh ah well, there was no way I'd watch Wrestlemania anyways so what's it matter?

[marshal99]

As should be expected , the money in the bank ladder match should be the highlight at wrestlemania.
I fully expect to see Carlito , Masters, RVD , Shelton to be in it leaving 2 spots still open. I don't expect Big Show & Kane to participate since they should have a tag team titles to defend though it is a very distinct possibility as Kane apparently have a feud with Masters & Big Show was in the race for the no.1 contenders.
No idea who will win this time round , last time's winner was pretty much expected. I expect RVD & Shelton to start off their feud in this match though.

[Ray192]

I want this MITB match to be interpromotional.

[marshal99]

I want this MITB match to be interpromotional.

It could work - 4 from each side but it would make the rest of the cards at wrestlemania damn weak.

I can see Carlito , Masters , RVD & Shelton for RAW and Benoit , Booker, Lashley & JBL for Smackdown. It would be total chaos. :)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Wrestlemania doesn't have a draw. Its sad when the Hall of Fame induction Ceremony is better than the Wrestlemania lol. You'd wonder how a company that had tons of momentum rolling after New Years Revolution could tank a product in record time....blame WWE Creative.

Jesus....least theres TNA. :D

[handOFfate]

It could work - 4 from each side but it would make the rest of the cards at wrestlemania damn weak.

I can see Carlito , Masters , RVD & Shelton for RAW and Benoit , Booker, Lashley & JBL for Smackdown. It would be total chaos. :)

This would be awesome, and there's not even a clear favorite to win, either.

[marshal99]

Doubt they will go that route though , since Wrestlemania is usually 4 hours long, they really need to pad out their matches and maximise their wrestlers to spread over the rest of the cards so that they have enough matches to fill out the hours.

[titanfan]

I know a lot of people are saying that they need a draw for Wrestlemania--but imho, they should tough this one out and not bring back an old face. Time to build the stars of tomorrow. HHH-Cena won't have the slow burn that Batista-HHH has, but they gotta do something with it.

Whoever booking the women's division is doing a good job, considering they really have only 3 workers. The Trish-Micki storyline is at the forefront, in slow burn mode--but now we have a little sub plot going between Candice and Torrie/Victoria. Feels like a real division. Did you see the paramdeics run over when Ashley fell out of the ring? Looks like she got hurt. Either ankle or knee.

Shelton-Flair didn't work as well as I thought. I actually thought the ring psychology was a bit bad and the spots were too predictable.

I still like the Spirit Squad, and was glad to see them finally get some ring action. I thought they looked good! The appearance of Jannety adds some much needed life to this horribly drab "feud".

RVD looked great in the #1 Contenders match, definitely the best he's looked since he's been back. Still, everyone and their uncle knew that HHH was going to win it! Rather than waste everyone's time with a tournament that everyone knew HHH was going to win--why not spend the time building a storyline? (Wrestlemania is right around the corner) HHH is the Cerebral Assassin, but he really hasn't done anything Cerebral lately. This would have been a great time to have him play some mind games on everyone all over again.

[marshal99]

HHH is now calling himself the king of kings , he should wrestle jesus for that title at wrestlemania. :D

[SUPERECWFAN1]

HHH is now calling himself the king of kings , he should wrestle jesus for that title at wrestlemania. :D


Once the Buyrate comes in for Wrestlemania and it tanks lower than expected Cena will get the blame. He should wrestle Jesus I suppose.

Its a shame though. The company obviously has cut the legs out from under anyone that gets over remotely so they can program guys. Edge gets over: Gotta end that. Rey Mysterio starts to get over: Gotta end that. Rob Van Dam starts to get over: Gotta end that too!

You'd think that with guys getting over you'd push the ones fans cleary wanna see. And not make them look like jokes or lower card them. WCW went thru this period. The backlash is when the fans respond angry to the Cena/HHH matchup as well as lower than expected PPV Buyrates.

[marshal99]

Let's be honest , this title match is just as lukewarm as last year's Cena vs JBL , a boring match that nobody wants to see.
It's going to be the undercard that is going to be the highlights at wrestlemania like last year. The money in the bank is sure to be a great match , have to see what else is installed for wrestlemania , still gottime to make matches. The Kurt/Shawn match was only implemented a month or so before wrestlemania.

[Dennis K]

I tuned in for about the last half hour of last night's broadcast and when HHH won I actually started laughing out loud knowing how much you guys would be pissed off about it.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

I know a lot of people are saying that they need a draw for Wrestlemania--but imho, they should tough this one out and not bring back an old face. Time to build the stars of tomorrow. HHH-Cena won't have the slow burn that Batista-HHH has, but they gotta do something with it.

Whoever booking the women's division is doing a good job, considering they really have only 3 workers. The Trish-Micki storyline is at the forefront, in slow burn mode--but now we have a little sub plot going between Candice and Torrie/Victoria. Feels like a real division. Did you see the paramdeics run over when Ashley fell out of the ring? Looks like she got hurt. Either ankle or knee.

Shelton-Flair didn't work as well as I thought. I actually thought the ring psychology was a bit bad and the spots were too predictable.



What was on Raw was a screwjob match between Flair and Shelton..if you want to see a REAL match between the two, check out Backlash '04.

And yes Trish/Mickie is the best story on Raw today. And the Raw main event is nothing short of HORRIBLE. Cena vs HHH will be a JOKE of a match at WM. The boos returned for Cena during his entrance and will likely be even louder next week and every week after. It's SAD when fans want to see Cripple H be champion over you. I pity the kid.

[Shade]

I think at this point it doesn't matter to much what they do, folks will just bitch about it. I mean, HHH has laid low from the main event for quite a while allowing other guys to shine, and worked strong programs with other folks on the card and no one is satisfied. It makes sense he would want to get back to where he was. He SHOULD be hungry to get the title back and I look forward to where the fued with Cena will go. I'm sorry it just makes more sense to me then inserting someone who JUST got back off a LENGTHY injury sit into the main event of the biggest show of the year. Does he get big pops? Hell yes, but oddly enough I've been to a few live shows and Bob Holly gets some INSANE pops at times (why I have no clue). HHH has worked his ass off this year, and this is his return on investment and in my opinion any match the guys is in has the pontential to tell a good story. I know that's not a popular opinion but I don't really care.

Man's in the main event and people complain, he puts over guys like SHelton and people complain, he backs down out of the main event and people complain because they know he's just coming back. The guy can't win. Maybe HE should go to TNA just to get everyone to STOP crying. Geesh.



Also if they have a MiTB II they need to get Haas back on TV in time to be involved in this.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I tuned in for about the last half hour of last night's broadcast and when HHH won I actually started laughing out loud knowing how much you guys would be pissed off about it.


It wasn't a shock. No one was suprised. Back in Jan. he sorta telegraphed this whole deal by short changing Edge's heel run so...we all knew he was gonna get his Wrestlemania title shot. Its just in doing so he cut the legs out from under 2 or 3 guys to do it as usual.

The only good match on the card is Foley/Edge and those guys are gonna have to work thier asses off to make this a memborable Wrestlemania. ;)

[Dennis K]

It wasn't a shock. No one was suprised.

And yet there was outrage when it actually happened. Weird.

[Convoy]

I still think Edge should've gone into Wrestlemania as champ whether he was liked or not. Now he's becoming another Randy Orton with this storyline with Foley.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

And yet there was outrage when it actually happened. Weird.

A lot of people hoped that Vince would throw curve into Wrestlemania. It sadly need it. This is why many hoped RVD being added to the Main Event or a big name from the past could really make this Main Event stand up. As it is now...Cena's gettin booed worse and HHH will come out as a face . ;)

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Why the hell isn't Mickie fighting Trish at WM? It makes no sense to just hotshot Candace into it all of a sudden.

[marshal99]

one word - PLAYBOY.

Simple really , Candice Michelle will be in the playboy issue for April 2006. Wrestlemania is in April.

[Rom]

Time to boycott WWE. I've had it with its lame storylines and HHH crapping over everyone. I can't even be bothered anymore.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

I think at this point it doesn't matter to much what they do, folks will just bitch about it. I mean, HHH has laid low from the main event for quite a while allowing other guys to shine, and worked strong programs with other folks on the card and no one is satisfied. It makes sense he would want to get back to where he was. He SHOULD be hungry to get the title back and I look forward to where the fued with Cena will go. I'm sorry it just makes more sense to me then inserting someone who JUST got back off a LENGTHY injury sit into the main event of the biggest show of the year. Does he get big pops? Hell yes, but oddly enough I've been to a few live shows and Bob Holly gets some INSANE pops at times (why I have no clue). HHH has worked his ass off this year, and this is his return on investment and in my opinion any match the guys is in has the pontential to tell a good story. I know that's not a popular opinion but I don't really care.

Man's in the main event and people complain, he puts over guys like SHelton and people complain, he backs down out of the main event and people complain because they know he's just coming back. The guy can't win. Maybe HE should go to TNA just to get everyone to STOP crying. Geesh.



Also if they have a MiTB II they need to get Haas back on TV in time to be involved in this.



you have to understand this stuff with hhh has been going on for YEARS now. people have grown so tired of him it's incredible, he's a heel that always wins and alot of the time cleanly beats the most over faces, nobody else gets that kind of treatment and it's hard to believe that it's just a coincidence that he happens to be married to vinces daughter.

[Forefinger]

you have to understand this stuff with hhh has been going on for YEARS now. people have grown so tired of him it's incredible, he's a heel that always wins and alot of the time cleanly beats the most over faces, nobody else gets that kind of treatment and it's hard to believe that it's just a coincidence that he happens to be married to vinces daughter.
I agree with both Shade and you. HHH has taken a back seat for over a year and helped create one of the most popular faces, Batista.

Edge didn't get a fair shake as champion, but Cena has made the fans hate him as the champ at times. A lot of people hate Edge, and not in a good "heel hate" way. Cena's got that damn spinner thing too.....

If HHH will get rid of the spinner, I'm all for him having another title reign.

I'm pissed that it's not RVD, but as of right now, I'm thinking that a match with HHH and Cena would be more entertaining than with RVD. He's still not performing like he did before he left. Plus, WWE almost always has to have a face vs. heel story going. Undertaker vs. Angle recently is the only face vs. face thing that I can remember. Even Batista vs Eddie was hinted at that Eddie was going to turn on Batista at some point. Since so many people hate Cena, I'm guessing that they would have turned him if he and RVD were to fued, but he has been their monster face and I don't see that. Turning RVD right now would probably hurt him since he's very popular since his return.

[Arune Singh]

So will we see Bret Hart at Wrestlemania?

[Calamas]

Whoever booking the women's division is doing a good job, considering they really have only 3 workers. The Trish-Micki storyline is at the forefront, in slow burn mode--but now we have a little sub plot going between Candice and Torrie/Victoria. Feels like a real division. Did you see the paramdeics run over when Ashley fell out of the ring? Looks like she got hurt. Either ankle or knee. I would have missed that if I hadn’t read your comments first. I tape WWE when I remember to (it’s not that important to me) because I can’t watch a whole show without some serious editing. Ashley did a good job protecting her head on the way down. It was her knee she landed on. Once on the ground she started to pull it towards her, but that hurt and she stopped; she lay there holding it until help came.

BTW, I only see to workers. How do you reach three?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

So will we see Bret Hart at Wrestlemania?


Right now Bret Hart is saying he just wants to do the Induction Ceremony and be at Wrestlemania. He's doing it for free but maybe they'll talk him into doing a run in and beat down Vince McMahon lol.

They've proposed storylines with him as GM or a manager for awhile and he's rejected it. Due to the fact he doesn't wanna hurt his legacy. I can understand why.

[Arune Singh]

Right now Bret Hart is saying he just wants to do the Induction Ceremony and be at Wrestlemania. He's doing it for free but maybe they'll talk him into doing a run in and beat down Vince McMahon lol.

They've proposed storylines with him as GM or a manager for awhile and he's rejected it. Due to the fact he doesn't wanna hurt his legacy. I can understand why.

So if I order Wrestlemania, I get to see the Hitman? SWEEEEEEEET.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

So if I order Wrestlemania, I get to see the Hitman? SWEEEEEEEET.


Maybe....thats a big maybe. Theres still no word if he'll show up on the show lol. ;)

[marshal99]

So if I order Wrestlemania, I get to see the Hitman? SWEEEEEEEET.

Does the wrestlemania package include the hall of fame induction ?

I can't imagine what this bret hart mark's reaction would be if he first heard the news that Bret Hart is going to be at Wrestlemania ... :D
http://www.youtube.com/?v=sd5stIN-Uxc

[Melbourne Mew Mew]

Right now Bret Hart is saying he just wants to do the Induction Ceremony and be at Wrestlemania. He's doing it for free but maybe they'll talk him into doing a run in and beat down Vince McMahon lol.


But he'd have to beat down Michaels as well, or it would make no sense...

...wait, this is WWE we're talking about. Forget I said anything.

[Karl]

I don't believe as of right now the induction ceremony will be televised, but now that the Hitman is being inducted Vince may try to work something out.

Also any ideas on who else might be inducted?

[Howard Allan]

I don't believe as of right now the induction ceremony will be televised, but now that the Hitman is being inducted Vince may try to work something out.

Also any ideas on who else might be inducted?


It won't happen. Bret is paying his own way there and he isn't accepting any sort of money from Vince for Hotel or anything. Bret has said he refuses to take anything from Vince because he will never work for him or the WWE again, so any money that Vince offers as far as paying for any of this stuff is being refused. That all being said, I think it's fair to say that you are not going to see him do anything in the ring for Vince again in his life. Don't expect it. If you do you will always be dissappointed.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

It won't happen. Bret is paying his own way there and he isn't accepting any sort of money from Vince for Hotel or anything. Bret has said he refuses to take anything from Vince because he will never work for him or the WWE again, so any money that Vince offers as far as paying for any of this stuff is being refused. That all being said, I think it's fair to say that you are not going to see him do anything in the ring for Vince again in his life. Don't expect it. If you do you will always be dissappointed.


As the old quote goes and what Joey Styles and Bret Hart have proved wrong thus far: Never Say Never...in Wrestling. ;)


Bret's not taking the $ 5,000 appearance fee but he's at Wrestlemania on Vince's dime. ( Motel , dining ect ect...)

[lboinyamouf4sho]

BTW, I only see to workers. How do you reach three?


trish, victoria, and mickie.

[Calamas]

It’s is Victoria I question. Granted, what she does very well--better than 95% of wrestlers, man or woman--is take her bumps. And I don’t just mean her signature ass-first through the ropes fall to the floor. She doesn’t hesitate to give up her body in any way. Look at how she was eliminated from the battle royal. She was hanging from the ropes, trying to keep her feet from touching the floor. For anybody else in that match, her opponents would have stomped her fingers and she would have landed feet first outside. Not Victoria. They kick her high and she flops flat on the unprotected floor.

But otherwise her timing is atrocious. After receiving a move, she often hops back up too fast, before her opponent is ready for the follow-up, and she has to stand there “dazed,” waiting. And her attacks are often uncoordinated, again due to timing. Although I will give her credit for the adjustment she made when Maria was out of position for her clothesline in that battle royal. But that’s the exception. On offensive she just appears awkward. Not Chris Masters bad by no means. He has nothing to offer.

There’s no denying Victoria is great when taking big hits, one of the best. But she’s hardly a complete wrestler.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

It’s is Victoria I question. Granted, what she does very well--better than 95% of wrestlers, man or woman--is take her bumps. And I don’t just mean her signature ass-first through the ropes fall to the floor. She doesn’t hesitate to give up her body in any way. Look at how she was eliminated from the battle royal. She was hanging from the ropes, trying to keep her feet from touching the floor. For anybody else in that match, her opponents would have stomped her fingers and she would have landed feet first outside. Not Victoria. They kick her high and she flops flat on the unprotected floor.

But otherwise her timing is atrocious. After receiving a move, she often hops back up too fast, before her opponent is ready for the follow-up, and she has to stand there “dazed,” waiting. And her attacks are often uncoordinated, again due to timing. Although I will give her credit for the adjustment she made when Maria was out of position for her clothesline in that battle royal. But that’s the exception. On offensive she just appears awkward. Not Chris Masters bad by no means. He has nothing to offer.

There’s no denying Victoria is great when taking big hits, one of the best. But she’s hardly a complete wrestler.


i disagree, i see mickie botch more moves than victoria, she misses that spining back kick to the midsection more often than she lands it. imo victoria is quite good but usually works with a crappy opponent.

[Gaz]

Is no-one else terrified at the prospect of Vince and Shane vs The Rockers?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Is no-one else terrified at the prospect of Vince and Shane vs The Rockers?


Vince has done f-cked up Wrestlemania to such a huge degree the odds he can make it worse isn't scaring people. Its a shock...a damn shock how he had a lot of momentum after New Years Revolution and pissed it all away .

[Erik Lehnsherr]

YOU know it's a sad sight when a good worker like Victoria is bashed over the likes of mediocre wrestlers Carlito, Masters, or Cena these days. Disgusting.

[Calamas]

Is no-one else terrified at the prospect of Vince and Shane vs The Rockers?
I laughed.

Though if it comes to pass, I might cry.

[clayholio]

YOU know it's a sad sight when a good worker like Victoria is bashed over the likes of mediocre wrestlers Carlito, Masters, or Cena these days. Disgusting.
When Victoria was wrestling Trish Stratus or Molly Holly, those matches were about as good as women's wrestling will ever be in the WWE. But let's be fair to Victoria, she hasn't had a lot to work in the last year or so. I'm just glad that she's managed to avoid getting fired so far.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

YOU know it's a sad sight when a good worker like Victoria is bashed over the likes of mediocre wrestlers Carlito, Masters, or Cena these days. Disgusting.

carlito is not mediocre imo, he's a the best new heel i've seen in years, and masters and cena get bashed constantly, how much more bashing do you want??

[Gaz]

I laughed.

Though if it comes to pass, I might cry.
It could be worse. Technically, the Rockers are the only other tag team on Raw apart from BigRedShowMachine...

(Not that Shawn and Marty can't still "go", but the potential of Vinny Mac as tag champ? :eek: )

[marshal99]

Still about a month to go before wrestlemania , is having Marty appearing just before wrestlemania going to be an annual event or what ? :D He also appeared last year just before wrestlemania and dissapeared after.

Hopefully they can do a rockers reunion and then have Marty turned on Shawn and join Vince's side and then they can do a Shawn vs Marty match at Wrestlemania instead of the dreaded Vince vs Shawn match. I would rather watch a Shawn vs Marty match. :)

[Gaz]

Still about a month to go before wrestlemania , is having Marty appearing just before wrestlemania going to be an annual event or what ? :D He also appeared last year just before wrestlemania and dissapeared after.

Hopefully they can do a rockers reunion and then have Marty turned on Shawn and join Vince's side and then they can do a Shawn vs Marty match at Wrestlemania instead of the dreaded Vince vs Shawn match. I would rather watch a Shawn vs Marty match. :)
Can you say "Best case scenario"?

(And they signed him last year, but his "personal demons" caught up to him and he couldn't work. I'm pretty sure that Christian's joke about him being in jail was based on truth.)

[Donald Stone]

I don't get the bitching that HHH is killing RVD's spot personally. The guy just came back from a year off, they need to build him up some.

In fact, I'm betting he wins the MitB shot at WM and goes for the title at SummerSlam.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

carlito is not mediocre imo, he's a the best new heel i've seen in years, and masters and cena get bashed constantly, how much more bashing do you want??

The guy in the earlier post basically dissected Victoria like she SUCKS beyond belief compared to those two. Masters is a joke and Cena is not improving at all and they aren't really bashed around here consistently. Hell, some even like defending a nobody like Masters at times in a effort to say something "different than the pack".

And Carlito is VERY mediocre. Once he turns face, he'll have just as big a backlash as Cena is getting today once he reaches the main event level and change the aspects of his character that generated laughs and face heat to begin with. Oh yeah..Carlito doing a somersault swanton against RVD doesn't mean he's a SuperCrazy or anything. It was just one spot and his story execution was still as poor as ever.

[Convoy]

Can you say "Best case scenario"?

(And they signed him last year, but his "personal demons" caught up to him and he couldn't work. I'm pretty sure that Christian's joke about him being in jail was based on truth.)

Yeah, Janetty was in jail last year. I forget what for though.

[Gaz]

Yeah, Janetty was in jail last year. I forget what for though.
DUI, I think.