Doctor Doom: An on-going series?

[GRANDPA]

do you think doctor doom should have an on- going series of his own?

[Expletive Deleted]

It's hard to build a series around a villain, long-term.

I dunno, it'd depend on the creative team.

[GRANDPA]

i know he had a few limited series and a marvel super-villian teamup in the past but since books of doom is such a hit maybe marvel should try an on-going series

[The Scribe]

It would be interesting to see.

I'd definitely buy it. :D

I'm buying the Books of Doom.
I'll probably buy the trade.

Who do you see as the creative team for an on-going Doom series?

[Economist]

Doom has had an ongoing atleast 3 times.

He shared Astonishing Tales with Ka-Zar.
Super-Villian Team-Up
Doom 2099.

I would definately buy another one, but I don't think we will get it for a while.

[The Scribe]

Those weren't entirely his books.

We want the current Dr. Doom.

I liked the 2099 book but it was a different Doom with a different costume.

[StoneGold]

Too much of a good thing is not necessarily a good thing. Too much Doom equals a watered down Doom.

[Sean Whitmore]

I liked the 2099 book but it was a different Doom with a different costume.


Wasn't it the same Doom with a different costume? I never read it, but I thought that was the book's premise.

Those who would like a Doom book should check out Mark Waid's excellent Empire series from a few years back, about a dictator with super-armor who actually succeeds in taking over the world.


SEAN

[riotgear]

I wouldn't mind limited-series or one-shots, like they've done in the past, but he is the type of character that a monthly would ruin. He is an antagonist, not a protagonist.

[The Scribe]

Those who would like a Doom book should check out Mark Waid's excellent Empire series from a few years back, about a dictator with super-armor who actually succeeds in taking over the world.


SEAN


I liked that series a lot. I have every issue and the trade. Too bad it's gone. :(


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[Neolucifer]

Not sure it would be a good idea . I'd love such serie WELL done ..but the odds are that its unlikely .
It would probably ends up being a serie where :

-He is pure evil , but since the heroes he fights are invaluable , he couldnt win , and would mostly be pitted against new villains or other villains ... thus ending being a "good guy" .

-His noble and good aspects would be shown , wich is fine , but way to much , to the point that he is mostly shown dealing with other and worse villains .

-Probably wouldnt show much of the latverian economy , politican system and social life , and would instead be Doom touring around the world , and other worlds , to battle others .

-His supporting cast would most likely be bad , or helping to make him appears softer ..

Sure a great writer like Brubaker , or Priest could most likely make it works , but without a name attached to it , i'm not confident it would be a great serie .
I'd instead love a book dealing with the politics and warfare matters of rulers such as BP , Doom and Namor , like often shown in priest's Black Panther .

[GRANDPA]

It would be interesting to see.

I'd definitely buy it. :D

I'm buying the Books of Doom.
I'll probably buy the trade.

Who do you see as the creative team for an on-going Doom series?my pick for this book would be millar and turner

[benbrass00]

do you think doctor doom should have an on- going series of his own?


Mmmm... It didn't work with Super-Villains Team-Up, so it probably won't work with an ongoing series... Better stick with some mini series...

Just my opinion... :confused:

[karik]

How come a villain series doesn't work, long-term?

I can't remember ever reading one. I missed the Thanos series (which I am going to try and collect anyway) but Books of Doom is working out well I think.

It seems like the purpose of this mini is not really to be a series though, it's just sort of a deep retelling of his origin.

[Expletive Deleted]

How come a villain series doesn't work, long-term?They're generally not all that sympathetic.

[Lord_Archive]

Image, Ugh. They really need to stop bringing in these 4-Issue hacks who write their one story and then either do nothing with them or, and this always makes me laugh, take their storylines and try forming their own publishing group which always flops on its ass and dies shortly afterwards.

Real writers make epics that span generations. IMHO.

Doom is an interesting character, but he's only interesting long term when he's working on smaller acquisitions (in respect to taking over the world) and the writers are focusing on his sense of honor and character. Doom 2099 was good up until he decided to take over America.

Doom needs to be written with his megalomaniacal side.. but it also needs to be shown in the context that he actually believes he has the earth's best interests in mind.

[Tommy]

Doom 2099 I thought was a perfect ending to the Dr. Doom mythos. You really got to see things like his love of the Latvarian People. his environmentalism. His political side.

And in the absence of Reed Richards you got to see both Doom's heroic and villainous qualities.

A Dr. Doom ongoing could work, but it would have to be one hell of a creative team. The closest I can think of is Kurt Busiek. His characterization of Moonstone (up until she got crazy Kree woman in her head) is the closest thing I can think of to how Doom should be characterized in his own series.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

You could make it a Dr Doom/Dr Strange book and call it "Strange tales of Doom".
:p
Seriously though, seeing the two together in Triumph and Torment kicked all kinds of ass.

[Neolucifer]

Doom is an interesting character, but he's only interesting long term when he's working on smaller acquisitions (in respect to taking over the world) and the writers are focusing on his sense of honor and character. Doom 2099 was good up until he decided to take over America.
I feel otherwise , imo he was far too good and generous before he took control of America , and it quickly makes me think/hope that it was an impostor .
I think he was better written in Planet Doom.

[Lord_Archive]

You could make it a Dr Doom/Dr Strange book and call it "Strange tales of Doom".
:p
Seriously though, seeing the two together in Triumph and Torment kicked all kinds of ass.

I'd start reading Exiles again if they did an arc with Dr Doom and Dr Strange as homosexual lovers.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

I can totally see Dr Strange as a middle-aged homosexual. And I'm a freaking fan...

[The Scribe]

I'd start reading Exiles again if they did an arc with Dr Doom and Dr Strange as homosexual lovers.


:eek:


No, no, Exiles is fine the way it is.

[Mister Mets]

The problem with a Doctor Doom on-going is what to do after the Fantastic 4/ New Avengers take him down.

It'd be better to have mini/ maxi-series, which can be more easily coordinated with the other books Doctor Doom's going to appear in.

[Evil-Spidey]

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I wish he would get a new ongoing he is not more of a villain than the Punisher.

[Iron Maiden]

I wish he would get a new ongoing he is not more of a villain than the Punisher.

I agree.... Punisher has had a far more ruthless and gruesome campaign against the criminal underworld than Doom has...you could say the same about Wolverine. He was a killing machine for mutant X. I'd say either of them probably has a higher body count than Doom. It's just a matter of who they get to vent their powers on. Particularly with the Punisher, he really doesn't have that much of a moral high ground. The plot always ensures the person he kills is pretty slimy. Both Doom and Punisher take the law into their own hands. Doom just has his own laws. :biggrin:

[steveg887]

I'd like to see a one-shot entitled "Dr. Doom's Day Off" where we see how he spends his time when he's not trying to take over the world or kill that infernal Reed Richards.

[Billium 3]

I thought this would be a great for some time now. I could totally see Dr.Doom getting his own ongoing solo book. If any of Marvel's villains could do it, it'd be DOOM.

[Iron Maiden]

I'd like to see a one-shot entitled "Dr. Doom's Day Off" where we see how he spends his time when he's not trying to take over the world or kill that infernal Reed Richards.

That would be Byrne's FF#258...He did spend part of the day with Kristoff, his ward at that time. Now there's a character that has almost completely dropped off Marvel's radar with the exception of House of M. But that was a Wanda-creature I'm guessing.

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I also liked a short story that Priest did called "Masks". Doom has a night out attending a concert and almost strangles his date. I think the best possible route is the limited series one. Dang , I wish Waid hadn't killed off Valeria. Marvel seems to be doing about one a year. The last one was Doctor Doom and the Masters of Evil but it wasn't an in continuity story, though it was a clever bit of fun.

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[DoomScribe]

There are writers out there who know and understand Doom, and if Marvel would let them, could probably write a pretty convincing series about Doom. He's got a huge history in the Marvel U, he doesn't have to be limited to battling the FF and the Avengers.

There have been successful Doom series and minis in the past too. I think Doom 2099 was brilliant up until the last three or four issues, which gives you 40 or so pretty good Doom stories. Doom 2099 started out with Doom very loyal to Latveria and it's restoration, and a Doom less concerned with the FF appears to be a milder, saner Doom. Warren Ellis took Doom to the Presidency and he became more ruthless than ever, although sadly it got a little weird and went too fast, probably due to all of the shake-ups in the 2099 Universe. Books of Doom was great too, and Astonishing Tales and SVTU all had good Doom stories.

Doom can even work off-world successfully, like he did in the Doom Heroes Reborn and Emperor Doom mini-series. He doesn't even need his armor ..

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