Basic Instinct 2 and other horrible sequels to brilliant originals

[Nikita]

*sigh* I just watched the trailer for this.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/basicinstinct2/


It looks horrible. Too little, too late. They waited waaay too long to make this sequel so now we don't care.

I have to say I am so disappointed with how Sharon turned out. I was such a HUGE fan when Basic Instinct and Casino came out. She was awesome in both of those. Then she starts to show her "emotionally unstable" side in interviews over the years. We hear stories of how she cries at the drop of a hat, yells at people on sets, etc. (I swear she is bipolar)

She was one of those actresses that had so much potential to break boundries and be so much more. Just like Sigourney Weaver broke the stereotype that only men could be action heros, Sharon could have done the same thing if she just wasn't cookoo.

She's just not "believable" as Catherine Tramell anymore because we've seen too much of her "nutbar" side in real life.

Some movies should NEVER have sequels made. It should be against the law!

[Totoro Man]

'Matrix Reloaded' and 'Matrix Revolutions' were bad sequels
oh yeah and...

'Bambi II'

all I could think was WTF!?!? :evilangry

[CaptainAwesome]

Did anyone hear of "Ghostbusters go to Hell"? The third GB movie is being shopped around by Dan Akroyd. Bill Murray has said that he wont do another movie, so this cant help but suck Im sure. Its not in the can yet, but lets hope we cant add this to the list of "horrible sequels".

[Leslie Lee III]

*sigh* I just watched the trailer for this.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/basicinstinct2/


It looks horrible. Too little, too late. They waited waaay too long to make this sequel so now we don't care.

I have to say I am so disappointed with how Sharon turned out. I was such a HUGE fan when Basic Instinct and Casino came out. She was awesome in both of those. Then she starts to show her "emotionally unstable" side in interviews over the years. We hear stories of how she cries at the drop of a hat, yells at people on sets, etc. (I swear she is bipolar)

She was one of those actresses that had so much potential to break boundries and be so much more. Just like Sigourney Weaver broke the stereotype that only men could be action heros, Sharon could have done the same thing if she just wasn't cookoo.

She's just not "believable" as Catherine Tramell anymore because we've seen too much of her "nutbar" side in real life.

Some movies should NEVER have sequels made. It should be against the law!

Is this the "bad sequels" thread or the "attack Sharon Stone" thread? It seems like it's meant to be one moreso than the other. I also think it's a little odd to say she's too "crazy" in real life to be believed as a murderous psycho on screen.

[DHX]

good lord.

they actually made a sequel?

why?

[Demonicuss Krinn]

they actually made a sequel? why?

Trying to make a fast buck off a established name, I assume. If only they had a better product...

[DHX]

Trying to make a fast buck off a established name, I assume. If only they had a better product...

but isnt this going to be like granny porn or something? i mean stone is in her late forties right?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

T2 is a culteral classic. The type of film , mixed with a musical score by Guns n Roses that just screams...CLASSIC. The battle scenes and everything rocked . You honestly walked away thinking if Terminator ends right here...its beautiful.

T3 however is everything T2 wasn't. It was a popcorn flick and its so disastorous you just feel sad at the end. This movie tried to have a hot musical score but its too little too late. T3 is a movie Termintor fans hope n pray never gets a return.

[DDM]

I liked Sharon Stone better when she played the younger woman in Irreconcilable Differences, but this is before Stone became a star...

After she became a star, her head began to grow in size. It's most unbecoming to be an arrogant, egotistical witch. However, I see Basic Instict 2 as a concession that Stone's star is in decline...

[blackdragon6]

the sequel to basic instinct came late because well,it was in development hell for a good decade.

[Donald M.]

the sequel to basic instinct came late because well,it was in development hell for a good decade.

Doesn't change the rule that very few exceptions, any sequel made a decade or more after the original can't help but suck.

[Dennis K]

Trying to make a fast buck off a established name, I assume. If only they had a better product...


How can you make a fast buck off of a sequel that's about 10 years too late? :D

[Donald M.]

Trying to make a fast buck off a established name, I assume. If only they had a better product...

Which established name is that, the 14 year old movie or the actress stuck in a 14 year career slump?

[meethraa]

I wound't call Basic Instinct a brilliant movie, though.

Or even a good one, for that matter.

Actually, I believe the sequel can turn out to be better.

[Donald M.]

I wound't call Basic Instinct a brilliant movie, though.

Or even a good one, for that matter.

Actually, I believe the sequel can turn out to be better.

But probably won't. It looks to be a retread of the original set in England.

[Nikita]

'Matrix Reloaded' and 'Matrix Revolutions' were bad sequels
oh yeah and...




Ditto.

.........

[Nikita]

Is this the "bad sequels" thread or the "attack Sharon Stone" thread? It seems like it's meant to be one moreso than the other. I also think it's a little odd to say she's too "crazy" in real life to be believed as a murderous psycho on screen.


It's a bad sequels thread but I just personally am bummed about Basic Instinct and Sharon Stone's ongoing insanity. :D

[SUPERECWFAN1]

the sequel to basic instinct came late because well,it was in development hell for a good decade.


And this was partly due to Sharon Stone and her unique demands. The people behind Catwoman met her demands and thier pretty damn wild. I saw on VH1 what she requests for herself and if her son comes by.

[DDM]

Watch Basic Instict 2 get several Razzie Awards next year...

[GozertheGozarian]

Highlander 2. Who the hell gave that the greenlight.

[Gargus]

The first BI was a piece of crap and had horrible acting and the storyline was almost nonexsistant. If it wasnt for stone flashing her snooze during the leg crossing scene (the only scene anyone remembers or associates to the movie) then it wouldnt have been paid any attention. I never liked her much anyway except she was great in casino and pretty good in sphere.

[Erebus]

Batman and Robin.

[DHX]

Highlander 2. Who the hell gave that the greenlight.

i can trump that:

Highlander Endgame.

it makes me pee blood every time i think about it... BLOOD!!!

[GozertheGozarian]

i can trump that:

Highlander Endgame.

it makes me pee blood every time i think about it... BLOOD!!!
Endgame was far, far better than two. Zardoz was better for Connery's career than that piece of shit.

[kalorama]

I wound't call Basic Instinct a brilliant movie, though.

Or even a good one, for that matter.

The fact that this thread didn't make it onto a second page before someone said this almost restores my faith in humanity.

Basic Instict was a laughably ill-conceived, ham-fistedly executed exercise in ego gratification, mostly Michael Douglas's and Joe Esterhas's. (The fact that I own it on DVD and happened to watch it last night, notwithstanding. I said it was bad, not that it wasn't entertaining.)

Actually, I believe the sequel can turn out to be better.

A vanilla latte enema could be better than Basic Instinct. That said, I have to admit that the trailer made the movie look several degrees less horrific than I expected it to be. (But then, that's what trailers are supposed to do.)

[xnef1025]

I third the Matrix sequels. It isn't that they are horrible movies, they just don't in any way live up to the original.

I agree with Highlander 2 as well. It completly screwed up the mythology what with the alien exiles premise crap. The Highlander 2: Renegade Edition DVD fixed some of the problems by having the bad guys time travel instead. Of course, that doesn't explain where the one guy's jetpack came from :p

[kalorama]

I third the Matrix sequels. It isn't that they are horrible movies, they just don't in any way live up to the original.

I thought the real sin of the Matrix sequels was that they were utterly superfluous. They puported to tell the rest of the story, but the rest of the story didn't really need to be told. At the end of the Matrix we knew everything we needed to know.

[Sandoz]

Basic Instinct never needed a sequel, and it's become pretty irrelevant over the years. I saw the uncensored promo reel, and it's completely indistinguishable from the "kinky" softcore flicks you can catch on Cinemax. It's a safe bet that the producers are banking on the "unrated" DVD to bring in the cash.

As far as other unnecessary sequels go...one that comes to mind is Grease 2, which had the same exact plot as Grease, only with the genders reversed and cars replaced with motorcycles. Yet, strangely, I prefer that cheesefest over the original.

[Headhunter]

No word of a lie, I thought the Basic Instinct II trailer was a hoax the first time around. Sure, I saw it as a low resolution file and wasn't 100% sure that was Sharon Stone, but still.

Some softcore movies at 3am have better plots, I can't believe this got made...

[Cam63]

Son of the Mask
Jaws 2-4
Superman 3 and 4
all the Police Academy sequels
all the Rocky sequels
Stayin' Alive
Star Trek 5-onwards
Robocop 2 and 3
Crocodile Dundee 2 and 3
and Grease 2

[Justin D.]

The title of this thread confuses me because it means someone thinks Basic Instinct is a brilliant movie.

[marshal99]

C'mon a few more years and Sharon Stone would be suitable for a remake of the golden girls. Basic Instinct II is remake 14 years too late. She's middle aged now and way too old.
If you feel something in your loins watching middle age stone getting it on , i would suggest you go watch the reruns of the golden girls marathon to get your jollies. :D

[Magneto_X]

Star Trek 5-onwards

It has some good movies like Wrath of Kahn & First Contact.

Robocop 2 and 3


2 was great. 3 had potential but ended up being a joke. It had ninja frickin androids with katanas---and still sucked. :eek:

[Prohibition]

In comparison to the outstanding orifinal, Battle Royale II was absolutely abysmal.

[Leslie Lee III]

I'd be willing to bet money that Stone looks better in the film than anyone saying she's "too old."

[Michael P]

I'd be willing to bet money that Stone looks better in the film than anyone saying she's "too old."
I don't think she's actually in it.

As for the original: I agree with Bill Hicks's opinion.

[kalorama]

I don't think she's actually in it.

Then digital/CGI technology has taken a major advance recently, because that sure looks like her in the trailer.

[the_big_billbowski]

Any sequel that is direct to DVD shoudl be on the list. Starship Troopers was a fun movie (no master piece or anything but good) but did we need Starship Troopers 2? or American Pie - Band Camp? American Wedding was weak at best, so they felt the need to do a direct to DVD ?

[Mia]

Sharon looks pretty good for her age, and her sexiness doesn't seem forced.

At least David Morrissey looks like her contemporary as opposed to 'watch me hang on to my youth' Michael Douglas. Also Morissey looks like the typical stiff upper lip cool Englishman. It'll be fun to watch her melt that ice.

Looks like a great treat. 14 years too late, but at least it's something worth seeing until the summer movie season kicks in.

Ironically watching the trailer made me think of Emma Frost and Cyclops.

[Magneto_X]

Any sequel that is direct to DVD shoudl be on the list. Starship Troopers was a fun movie (no master piece or anything but good) but did we need Starship Troopers 2? or American Pie - Band Camp? American Wedding was weak at best, so they felt the need to do a direct to DVD ?

ST 2 was actually *good*. I enjoyed it anyway.

American Pie should have ended with 2.

[GreenHornet]

Ms Stone = puptents and DVD sales. She stills looks great!
When it hits DVD you watch for a 2 pack w/ the 1st one and I'll bet it will do very well in sales. I don't have the 1st yet on DVD so I'll wait for that.

[Nate Grey]

I wonder if they're trying to do a trilogy?

[mgs]

I wonder if they're trying to do a trilogy?
gah! the humanity!!

anyways, here's a good look at a full trailer:
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/basicinstinct2/index.html

while I think the original was good and I don't care enough about the actresses' real life, this kind of movie does not warrant a sequel. Maybe a new book, but not movie. It just doesn't make any sense, like trying to sequel Kramer v. Kramer or The Graduate.

Maybe because this is being made by Sony, and they have the string of Spider-Man movies and sequels seem to be doing better in theatres than many 1st time movies are the reasons why this is coming out. Oh, that and, someone probably got Sharon a buttload of cosmetic surgery and wanted to put this out before she gets ancient.

[Neil]

this kind of movie does not warrant a sequel. Maybe a new book, but not movie. It just doesn't make any sense, like trying to sequel Kramer v. Kramer or The Graduate.
I'm not sure I understand the connection. Aside from all three being bad ideas... but I don't see why those two, of all possibilities, were used as examples.

[Deathstroke]

The trailer doesn't make Basic Instinct 2 look all that good, but it's not like there won't be people checking it out.

[Deathstroke]

Oh and Karate Kid III was horrible.

[Loren]

Most of the Disney DTV animated sequels have apparently been pretty bad. But the one that takes the cake is undoubtedly:

Cinderella (http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC05/DC/Vertigo/SDCCTestament.html) II (http://www.ultimatedisney.com/cinderella2.html)

I particularly like the review from Filmcritic.com:

"The stories are trite. The songs are forgettable. And worst of all, the animation is atrocious. The film looks like it was put together on a dare, as a joke, or both. Which is the truth doesn't matter, the verdict is the same: Do not see this film, and don't tell your kids it even exists."

[ChrisIII]

I'm suprised we're into page 3 and nobody's brought up the Star Wars prequels yet (Or at least TPM).

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

i honestly don't think it would mater if the movie was actually good.the movie industry is verry weiredly unpredictable right now (more so than usual i mean) .the movie could have been light years better than the original and still bombed.

[kalorama]

I'm suprised we're into page 3 and nobody's brought up the Star Wars prequels yet (Or at least TPM).

Some things are simply understood without being said.

[Legato]

Oh and Karate Kid III was horrible.

It wasn't that bad. To me it was a decent way to close the series. That is until The Next Karate Kid came along.

Nobody even mentioned The Crow sequals? They was an abomination of what made the original Crow film so great.

The Godfather Part 3. I think they should have stopped at part two.

[OverMaster]

I second Cinderella II and Son of the Mask.

[Magneto_X]

It just doesn't make any sense, like trying to sequel Kramer v. Kramer or The Graduate.


Wasn't Rumour Has It an indirect sequel to The Graduate? :confused:

[kalorama]

Wasn't Rumour Has It an indirect sequel to The Graduate? :confused:

No. It used the Graduate's story as a backdrop, but it wasn't a sequel to the actual film.