Brubaker confirms Uncanny Line Up - Tan's cover coloured

[Porcelain]

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=59707
Tis Lorna

Newsarama: So Ed, now with the image on display, can you tell all who yours and Billy Tan’s full line-up is when your run begins this summer?

Ed Brubaker: Sort of, mostly. It'll be Nightcrawler, Marvel Girl, Havok, Warpath, Professor X, Polaris, and a character I can't mention yet or I'll spoil the end of Deadly Genesis.

NRAMA: Now you previously mentioned some characters being on the team that aren't necessarily in the cover image..?

EB: Yeah, just one, though, and I'm not saying who it is. Seriously…

[Cayman]

YAY!

Although "And then there’s Polaris. I don't want to say much about her, for fear of spoiling things. But she won't be exactly the Polaris that people know and love, that's for sure." is scary.

Cay

[Flight]

Wow, my last post was just telling someone it definitely wasn't Polaris... lol

Aww, I just made this avatar! Should I change it to colour?

[charx23]

i told everyone it was and people where like nononono, i'm glad she lives but it maybe a clone of her after the apoc arc.

[Beast]

Very tasty. And nice to see Polaris will indeed be on the team.
But hmm, who could be the mystery character from the end of Deadly Genesis? :)

[Cayman]

Very tasty. And nice to see Polaris will indeed be on the team.
But hmm, who could be the mystery character from the end of Deadly Genesis? :)

Darwin. That's what he does, survive things.

Cay

[The Fury]

Wow, my last post was just telling someone it definitely wasn't Polaris... lol

Aww, I just made this avatar! Should I change it to colour?
Irony at it's best. :D

I still think it's Scarlet Witch.

[Keith_Martineau]

Sounds like he's gonna tell a story pretty much exactly like the kind I wished for in my "Too Many X-Books!" thread.

Bad color job, IMHO. It's already a very busy cover, but all the colors, and the dark reds in the background kind of make it all blend together. Not a lot to really help the eye seperate things.

[Beast]

Darwin. That's what he does, survive things.

Cay
But Kid Vulcan has his powers, so I doubt he's alive. :)

[Porcelain]

YAY!

Although "And then there’s Polaris. I don't want to say much about her, for fear of spoiling things. But she won't be exactly the Polaris that people know and love, that's for sure." is scary.

Cay
I'm hoping it's just him ignoring the mad, crazy better off dead Lorna and not an Arch-Polaris. Who knows whatever happens I may wind up liking her :D

Nice pick with Nightcrawler over Havok for team leader (simply because it makes it more interesting, not going for the obvious).

I'm wondering more about who the unconfirmed last & 7th member of the team is, all we know is:
a) They're not on that cover
b) If we know it will spoil DG ending
possibly another member of that team survived? Or maybe Banshee did, or eh could speculate all year (though I would love Brubaker long time if it was Moira).

[Cayman]

But Kid Vulcan has his powers, so I doubt he's alive. :)

Has he used Darwin's powers yet though?

Cay

[Beast]

I love that he's going to do it more like the old classic Claremont stuff, where there's multiple story lines but as part of one big whole. We haven't seen that in so long, what with the 'Write for Trade' flavor we've been getting so much of lately. Good for Brubaker. It makes me even more excited for the run. :)

And yes Mr. Brubaker, we love the Brood!! Let's see them again!! :D

[Porcelain]

Definately agree on the story layering - it will make a nice change up.
Darwin. That's what he does, survive things.

Cay
Isn't there one that can stop time too? Always wanted to see that ability explored (I know one of the NYX kids had it but beyond that not really seen it utilised it much).

Has it been specifically stated that somone has to be dead for Vulcan (stilll waaaaay too trekkie) to have them - or that he does?

[Beast]

Has he used Darwin's powers yet though?

Cay
You tell me, he was alive in the vacuum of space. ;) :D

[Keith_Martineau]

I ain't positive, but I think his demonstration of mental abilities such as taking over Rachel's power is his use of Darwin's power. Having mental abilities when he needs it.

[Mitsaso]

So, Polaris will be around for the Apocalypse arc then. :)
I wonder what happens with Doop. :D

[Beast]

Definately agree on the story layering - it will make a nice change up.

Isn't there one that can stop time too? Always wanted to see that ability explored (I know one of the NYX kids had it but beyond that not really seen it utilised it much).

Has it been specifically stated that somone has to be dead for Vulcan (stilll waaaaay too trekkie) to have them - or that he does?
Kid Vulcan is using that ability also, to make people relive past trauma.
The 'Ghostly Memories' that Kurt and others have witnessed were part of her abilities. :)

[Cayman]

Maybe Darwin needed Kid Vulcan to survive in order to allow him to do so as well.

Cay

[Sentinel K]

A 12 issue arc? Old school style?


*Soils self*

[Porcelain]

Kid Vulcan is using that ability also, to make people relive past trauma.
The 'Ghostly Memories' that Kurt and others have witnessed were part of her abilities. :)
Yep, which is why I was wondering about whether someone would have to be dead for Vulcan to use their powers, or whether it is him possessing the powers at all.

(I know I know, I just want girl with freeze time powers :( )

[Beast]

A 12 issue arc? Old school style?


*Soils self*
Yes, it does sound fabulous doesn't it. Brubaker's really going for that classic Claremont feel. Yay for him. :)

[Tennoarashi]

Polaris being in this book in that outfit sealed the deal for me. I'm in.

[Beast]

Yep, which is why I was wondering about whether someone would have to be dead for Vulcan to use their powers, or whether it is him possessing the powers at all.

(I know I know, I just want girl with freeze time powers :( )
There was one in X-Statix also, Lacuna I think was her name. :)

[rilokyle]

naturally, i am so ecstatic that lorna is in this lineup with havok!!!! that totally makes my day. however, i didn't like that comment about her being drastically different from the lorna we love. so does that mean we're going to not love her??? not cool. but we'll see what happens, and hopefully she and alex might get back together??? i can only hope.

[Beast]

Hopefully she's sane, that's all I care about right now.

You know what would be great, if the 7th member turned out to be Magneto. :D
Sadly it won't happen, due to the fact he's depowered and appearing elsewhere. But it would be cool.

[Midnite]

I'm hoping that maybe Petra takes the name Polaris.

[rilokyle]

i forgot to add one more thing. can it be true? does lorna have her powers back then, as she's clearly floating in that picture???? egads that's excellent.

[BlackKnight]

This is great, not only do we get Brubaker (one of the best new writers around) but we also get some old time story telling and a X comic without wolverine.

I am so there.

[Weapon Ick]

Beautiful cover. Brilliant writer. Dynamic team roster. This should be great.

My personal feelings about this, though, is that I have never liked the X-Men in space. It bothers that they will be off the planet during Civil War. I am enjoying the decimation effect through out the X-books. To me, it seems like things are just getting interresting on the ground and now the X-Men have to leave Earth? I just can never accept the idea of mutants being galactic fighters. Being a mutant means nothing in space. The X-men are just super-powered earthlings in regard to anyone they encounter in space. I'm sure the story will be wonderful anyway. Looking foreward to it.

EB: Do fans like the Brood, even?

NRAMA: No doubt they’ll tell us…

I don't like the Brood.

[Twigglet]

I can't wait.

Me and BlackKnight just agreed, I think this may be the first sign of the Apocalypse :p

[Beast]

I'm hoping that maybe Petra takes the name Polaris.
Petra's likely dead. I would think everyone of X-Men 1.5 are. If they weren't, Xavier would have just wiped their minds and probably handed them back over to Moira. :)

[Porcelain]

There was one in X-Statix also, Lacuna I think was her name. :)
Never could bring myself to try that

Anyone got a clue what he was reffering to with Warpath & Vulcan being similar? Is it just the brother thing?

...if the 7th member turned out to be Magneto
~grins~ Shame that coulnd't be worked in (Wanda would make more sense coming from the end of DG - if it was her fault).

[Keith_Martineau]

Hopefully she's sane, that's all I care about right now.

You know what would be great, if the 7th member turned out to be Magneto. :D
Sadly it won't happen, due to the fact he's depowered and appearing elsewhere. But it would be cool.

Thats kind of what I was thinking.
Son of M will have finished by the time this starts. And all he has to do at the end of Deadly Genesis is appear, doesn't have to be powered or anything.

[MasterOdin]

The part that I liked to was Ed's mention that some issues would be stand-alone's. Nice to see Marvel starting to break from the 6-issue arc mindset.

[Flameworthy]

I'm so glad Polaris is still an X-Man, and I love her new costume. She always looks best in green.;)

Too bad Rachel's still in this book, and I'm still PO'ed at Brubaker for killing Banshee, otherwise I'd be picking this book up.

[Crimson]

While I'm not big on cosmic stuff, I do like Sci Fi (Star Wars, Firefly etc.)... after reading this though and Deadly Genesis I can't wait! This should hopefully rock!

I wonder who's going to be leader, Nightcrawler or Havok? From the interview I'd guess Nightcrawler but if their fighting Vulcan, Havok may make more sense.

Never could bring myself to try that

Anyone got a clue what he was reffering to with Warpath & Vulcan being similar? Is it just the brother thing?


~grins~ Shame that coulnd't be worked in (Wanda would make more sense coming from the end of DG - if it was her fault).

Xavier lead his brother Thunderbird off to die... I'd assume that's the connevtion.

[Porcelain]

The interview specified Nightcrawler would be the leader (which I'm looking forward too as he's been skirting round it so long after Excalibur and it's nice to not see the obvious).

Petra's likely dead. I would think everyone of X-Men 1.5 are. If they weren't, Xavier would have just wiped their minds and probably handed them back over to Moira. :)
I doubt he knew of Vulcan's survival..welll resurrection really (maybe the potential of it depending on the nature of his powers but not the actuality), not like it would be a first bringing back people from the dead - if Vulcan, why not more of them?

Xavier lead his brother Thunderbird off to die... I'd assume that's the connevtion.
Cheers, wasn't sure if there was more to it, as I don't know much about Thunderbird.

[Beast]

I doubt he knew of Vulcan's survival..welll resurrection really (maybe the potential of it depending on the nature of his powers but not the actuality), not like it would be a first bringing back people from the dead - if Vulcan, why not more of them?
Cause their corpses were all part of a big floating hunk of Krakoa poop. Vulcan only came back to life because of the HoM Mutant Energies. And the only reason he survived in the vacuum of space, was because of Darwin's Powerset. And since Vulcan was original an Energy Manipulator, exposure to the Energy even dead or dormant must have re-awoken him. :)

[Porcelain]

Man, you're gonna make me go look for issues now aren't you :(

(I honestly don't remember floating corpses but then again if one was awakened by Wanda I don't see why others couldn't be & why Bru couldn't just be playing us - it's possible. Narratively more dramatic if just he is resurrected yes, but still possible.)

[Beast]

Man, you're gonna make me go look for issues now aren't you :(

(I honestly don't remember floating corpses but then again if one was awakened by Wanda I don't see why others couldn't be & why Bru couldn't just be playing us - it's possible. Narratively more dramatic if just he is resurrected yes, but still possible.)
There's at least one or two corpses visible in the chunk of Krakoa waste. :)

[BlackKnight]

I can't wait.

Me and BlackKnight just agreed, I think this may be the first sign of the Apocalypse :p

Nope, you will find that you and I probably agree on a lot once you get away from NA and Bendis.. :D

[Paploo the Ewok]

Goofy thought, but mabye the 7th member is Doop, and Brubaker's just messing with us?
I like Cay's theory of Darwin though..... also, mabye Banshee? Who knows. Lots of possibilities...

[Dizzy D]

YAY!

Although "And then there’s Polaris. I don't want to say much about her, for fear of spoiling things. But she won't be exactly the Polaris that people know and love, that's for sure." is scary.

Cay

Ah well, she hasn't been the Polaris I know and love for the last 10 years so how bad can it be? Anyway, I'll join the other people who said it was going to be Polaris so we can be smug and superior.

And yes Mr. Brubaker, we love the Brood!! Let's see them again!!

Go read Ms. Marvel if you want Brood.

So his Proudstar will not be flying.. Ah well, didn't expect that change to stick. Quite liked it though, James simply thinking that he had the exact same powers as his brother and never thinking that he may have some other power as well.

And there is a secret in Annihilation? Or Brubaker playing mindgames?

[Babylon23]

Although I'm a fan of Brubaker's, Tan's artwork doesn't impress me in the slightest. However, this interview was interesting. I was planning on dropping the book, but after reading this, I might check out the first issue or two.

Good to see he'll continue Rachel's feud with the Shiar.

[Beast]

No thanks, I very rarely sneak out of the X-Books to read something else.
As for the Secret of Annihilation, it's probably all tied back into the Mutant Energies of HoM. :p

[Twigglet]

Nope, you will find that you and I probably agree on a lot once you get away from NA and Bendis.. :D

Bendis certainly does polarize a lot of readership.

But as long as you like Nextwave, you're ok with me :p

BTW, about Uncanny, why would he not be able to announce the character because of DG spoilers.

I find that really confusing, it wouldn't be a person allready on a X-team else it wouldn''t make sense on that comment.

I can't see how any of the DG team can join the X-men again...

[Jake V]

Wow. That color image in the newsarama article is now my new wallpaper.

I'm all over this new run. Can't wait.

[Brian M.]

I jaw dropped when I saw that colored cover. Holy crap, it's beautiful.

[Doom Hammer]

Yes, it does sound fabulous doesn't it. Brubaker's really going for that classic Claremont feel. Yay for him. :)

Yeah, sounds awesome, doesn't it? Something for old fans and new fans alike.

I guess the question is, can he out-Claremont Claremont?

*Spontaneously combusts*

:D

[Cayman]

Maybe it's Krakoa. Any team could benefit from an island that walks like a man.

Or perhaps Foggy Nelson

Cay

[Jake V]

Maybe it's Krakoa. Any team could benefit from an island that walks like a man.

Or perhaps Foggy Nelson

Cay
No way.


It's the Winter Soldier.

Or Henry Bendix.

Or Rose Tattoo.

[streator]

everything sounds good, i'm glad this interview finally went up. the 475 cover looks good colored as well.
i'm glad that's polaris. i was bummed she was depowered in the first place. i'm guessing she gets powers from apocalypse or something, which is why brubaker couldn't say things.
i'm also glad to hear that it sounds like kurt will be the team leader.

[Beast]

Agreed, given that Havok's been turned into a major screw-up thanks to the last few years of bad writing. :p

[Holland]

Wow, that looks awesome!
Only confirms that this is gonna be a great arc.

[Cowlander]

man I was almost away from collecting any x books. Then this article dropped.

Curse you brubaker.......::holds empty wallet::

[Neolucifer]

Vulcan (stilll waaaaay too trekkie)

ehh i was going to say that with Tan's design and the coloring , he looks like Spock :p

Anyway time for some madness (remember the day Havok was confirmed in the line up) :




YYYYYYYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH !! FRICKIIIIN YEAAAAH BABY !!!! POLARIS IS STILL ALIVE AND PART OF THE TEAM !!! BRUBAKER FOREVER !!!

[DDM]

I'm glad to see the X-Men go into Shi'ar space with Lilandra, Dethbird, & the Imperial Guard make an appearance. I just hope Brubaker doesn't play the mysterious villain angle; this gets old real quick.

[Neolucifer]

I aint feeling he is . If Vulcan is still the main villain after DG , if anything we are due for some good old fashioned hunting (like also currently in exiles) .
I also long a bit , for the days were villains werent posing mysteriously in a shadow for 2 or 3 issues :D

[DHX]

I aint feeling he is . If Vulcan is still the main villain after DG , if anything we are due for some good old fashioned hunting (like also currently in exiles) .
I also long a bit for the days were villains arent posing mysteriously in a shadow for 2 or 3 issues :D

God i miss those days...

[Faded]

I'm glad!!! I do hope Petra, Sway, or Darwin are on the team. It'd be interesting to have one of them be opposing Kid Vulcan.

[Babylon23]

I aint feeling he is . If Vulcan is still the main villain after DG , if anything we are due for some good old fashioned hunting (like also currently in exiles) .
I also long a bit , for the days were villains werent posing mysteriously in a shadow for 2 or 3 issues :D

Hey, I remember those days. They were good times.

[PerfectBrak]

Yay, I was right about Polaris!

It looks like Ed knows what he's doing. I like the epic "X-Men in space" stories too, at least one reader will be happy :D

[fishtaco]

I'm sold, kind of.
EB: He's got enhanced strength, speed, and senses, according to my sources. He's a badass, too, when he needs to be, and there'll be plenty of occasions for him to show that in our run. He apparently didn't read Warren Ellis's run on X-Force. Warpath can fly, too. And then there’s Polaris. I don't want to say much about her, for fear of spoiling things. But she won't be exactly the Polaris that people know and love, that's for sure.Not sure I'm liking that... that would touch on old Uncanny X-Men glory days a bitI hope he means the second half of Claremont's run. Whedon's glory days are the Claremont/Byrne run, and it doesn't appear that he really read much else. In my opinion, THE glory days started from John Romita Jr.'s first run on Uncanny X-Men and ending with when Claremont left, along with Claremont and Simonson's runs on New Mutants, Simonson's X-Factor, Claremont's Excalibur, Dazzler, Classic X-Men, Claremont PAD and Archie Goodwin's Wolverine, Byrne's Alpha Flight, Mantlo's Alpha Flight, plus glorious minis like Kitty Pryde and Wolverine, Longshot, Firestar, Beauty and The Beast, Iceman, Havok and Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Magik, etc etc. The Wilderness era was the best ever. Right now, the big arc is going to go 12 issues, which will be a bunch of standalone issues that build on each other, old-school style, basically. By the end of the 12th issue, though, there'll have been big changes in the X-verse... And big ramifications to come…Keith Martineau mentioned the writing style that he saw on the "too many X-books" thread, and this is the impression I've got as well. Keith is referring mostly to the Wilderness Era. We've got Storm on the run from Jacob Reisz and the Shadow King not to mention Nanny II and Orphan Maker, the New Mutants homeless and roadtripping, Wolverine Jubilee and Psylocke wandering around Madripoor, Muir Islanders all huddled up together being corrupted by the Shadow King, Banshee and Forge finding the X-Men, Callisto in New York, Colossus as a famous painter, Dazzler as a singer again, Rogue on the run from Ms. Marvel and her teamup with Magneto, the Reavers hunts, X-Factor thought to be dead, Mystique vs the Shadow King, Gateway captured, Excalibur lost on the Cross-Time Caper, Lila Cheney on the run from the Sh'iar, mansion destroyed, Zaladane's machinations, Polaris powerless, the adventures of Gambit and Storm, the corruption of Lian Shen, Genoshan violence. One issue can be devoted to one thing, and then the next issue can be something completely different. The whole X-universe was being written all at the same time back then. Keith Martineu can explain it better.

[Neolucifer]

He apparently didn't read Warren Ellis's run on X-Force. Warpath can fly, too.

Or he did and might be either ignoring it , or right from the start removing from him , somehow , that power .

[fishtaco]

Or he did and might be either ignoring it , or right from the start removing from him , somehow , that power .Well, I hope he doesn't ignore it, but I wouldn't mind him somehow removing it. I guess that was a little harsh of me, yeah. I just want it to be coherent.

[Neolucifer]

Didnt mean you were harsh , i just thought some powers restrictions or removal might be a possibility .
And yeah while i wouldnt loose sleep over X force being ignored , it would be better the other way .

[AnthonyJ]

I'm sold, kind of.
He apparently didn't read Warren Ellis's run on X-Force. Warpath can fly, too.

Based on his statements on Millarworld, he knew about that, he just thought it was stupid and discarded it (he didn't specify whether he was going to explain this, or just conveniently forget about it).

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Ohhh yeahh...you rock Brubaker. If ya bring crazy Lorna Dane back and have her walkin the edge again you will be my favorite. And if Havok actually leads a tam without bein b-tch slapped...be awesome.


Ya know...call me Chuck Austen but why not hook up Alex and Rachel ? Be a unique twist on the Cyclops/Jean Grey deal. Plus it would throw some sparks into the fire baby. :D

[Hi-Fi]

Great interview. I'm so on board for this!

[Affinity]

Would you date your uncle, man? But I must admit, they are kind of cute. Tee hee.

Great cover by the way. I think I enjoyed it better when it wasn't colored, though.

[Keith_Martineau]

Keith Martineau mentioned the writing style that he saw on the "too many X-books" thread, and this is the impression I've got as well. Keith is referring mostly to the Wilderness Era.

If thats what I'm referring to, it's by accident. My X-knowledge starts at the very tail end of that. My earliest issue is the one with Rogue vs. Carol Danvers, where Mags shows up at the end. The X-tinction Agenda begins right after that. And when that ends, we have an issue with Rogue and Mags in the Savage Land, then 275 (which is among my favorite all time issues) and then the rest for a few issues deals with them taking on Warskrulls amongst the Shi'Ar.

So I guess if this "Wilderness" era is like that, then sure. Still this is sort of what I had a feeling Brubaker was gonna do. The reason for this is infact Deadly Genesis. It has a classic feel to it, but with modern sensibilities. It feels like X-Men SHOULD.

So yeah. Good times.

[Titan76]

With Xavier back does this mean he will take over the school again? And how will this play into Whedon's Astonishing I wonder. I have never counted Xavier as one of the X-men mainly because he is their main leader and was always in both books and teams, so I am wondering if Brubaker is going to be using him as a actual team-member(I kind of hope not).

The cover looks very nice, here's hoping the art is as good as the cover.

I hope he makes Havok the team leader rather then Nightcralwer, never could stand him as the team leader. I also hope he does a better job with Rachel and her powers. Claremont would make her all powerful in one issue and then the next she is getting mind control and getting her ass kick. I hope Brubaker makes her more constistent.

And finally I really hope he doesn't screw up with Polaris, but then again she already is screw up thanks to Austen and Millgian so I don't think he could make her any worse then they did. *knocks on wood*

[rilokyle]

Yeah, I'm confused at which Polaris he is talking about. The one we've had to deal with for the last few years was definately not the one everyone remembers and loves. Maybe, just maybe, she'll regain her sanity completely and return to her X-Factor-esque personality.

[Will.S]

Wow, Frank D'Armata colored the piece.

Looks much, much better and reading Ed's interview there got me really excited for his run. Now for the Mike Carey X-Men art....

[AnthonyJ]

I hope he makes Havok the team leader rather then Nightcralwer, never could stand him as the team leader.
Interview sounds otherwise.
Claremont would make her all powerful in one issue and then the next she is getting mind control and getting her ass kick.

Nah, Claremont is more consistent than that; she remains all powerful even when being mind controlled.

[Mariah]

Interview sounds otherwise.


Nah, Claremont is more consistent than that; she remains all powerful even when being mind controlled.
Agreed. She was super bad when she was being controlled by Malice. I wonder if he's gonna touch on the Polaris-Zaladane-Malice thing? I hope so, cause that's a plot that needs to be cleared up. Okay, it doesn't but i'd like it to be.

[TinMan]

With Xavier back does this mean he will take over the school again? And how will this play into Whedon's Astonishing I wonder. I have never counted Xavier as one of the X-men mainly because he is their main leader and was always in both books and teams, so I am wondering if Brubaker is going to be using him as a actual team-member(I kind of hope not).

I completely disagree. I think some fallout and dissent, especially with Cyclops, is appropriate. I would like to see Xavier w/ his legs back (via Wanda woogie) and his telepathy, then send his old ass out on missions. Scott should stay in control of the school, he's always been more pure of heart in "Xavier's dream" than Xavier himself, so he needs to keep the reigns and Xavier needs to do the running for a change. I think that would be totally appropriate and kickass at the same time.

As for the interview and cover art; HOLY FARKING SHNIT!!!!! This is shaping up to be one of the best runs ever, I'm already drooling! Between Civil War, Annihlation, Astonishing comin back, Moonknight, and the new creative teams on the other X-books, this year is shaping up to be shear badassery of epic proportions!

[steve2275]

i think this is when astonishing year 2 starts

[Keith_Martineau]

With Xavier back does this mean he will take over the school again? And how will this play into Whedon's Astonishing I wonder. I have never counted Xavier as one of the X-men mainly because he is their main leader and was always in both books and teams, so I am wondering if Brubaker is going to be using him as a actual team-member(I kind of hope not).

Seeing as how they'll be in Space? Kinda doubting that means Xavier'll be taking over the school again.

I hope he makes Havok the team leader rather then Nightcralwer, never could stand him as the team leader.

Yeah...but he said that Nightcrawler is team leader, and Havok is going along cause he's a Summers. Quite frankly, I prefer that. Just cause a cat is a Summers doesn't mean they HAVE to be a team leader. Infact, it wasn't until X-Factor that Havok WAS a team leader.

And finally I really hope he doesn't screw up with Polaris, but then again she already is screw up thanks to Austen and Millgian so I don't think he could make her any worse then they did. *knocks on wood*

Yeah, I have more faith in Bru than that. Not like she can get much worse.
Maybe she's a crazy Lorna/Apocalypse Horseman/Doop hybrid! Wouldn't THAT be utterly ridiculous.

[Sandy Hausler]

Darwin. That's what he does, survive things.

Cay

Uh, looks more like Vulcan to me. The guy with the glowing eyes. I think, sadly, Darwin is dead.

Sandy Hausler

[Titan76]

I completely disagree.
With what?

[Titan76]

Seeing as how they'll be in Space? Kinda doubting that means Xavier'll be taking over the school again.
But when he comes back(if he comes back, he may stay with the Shi'ar) then what?

Yeah...but he said that Nightcrawler is team leader, and Havok is going along cause he's a Summers. Quite frankly, I prefer that. Just cause a cat is a Summers doesn't mean they HAVE to be a team leader. Infact, it wasn't until X-Factor that Havok WAS a team leader.
True, Nightcrawler is team leader but that could change at anytime. And its not becuase Havok is a Summers that I want him to be leader(I could care less if he was or wasn't), during his time with X-Factor and under Peter David he was shown to be a great leader and even when Austen brought him back he took over the Uncanny team right away, I think he makes a better leader then Nightcrawler does.

[TinMan]

With what?

LOL, didn't you read the rest of my post?

I disagree with how you think Xavier should be handled, I responded with how I thought he should be handled.

[TinMan]

Uh, looks more like Vulcan to me. The guy with the glowing eyes. I think, sadly, Darwin is dead.

Sandy Hausler

Theres no way, its already been stated that the villian to come out of Deadly Genesis was being created so the X-Men would have another veritable threat for years to come. So I see no possible way that Vulcan could become an X-Man.

As for Cayman's response; it makes sense, Darwin adapts, so out of all of the 1.5 team he would be the one most likely to survive because he could adapt to the vacuum of space and adapt to not needing food to live. That was his point, but of course we have no idea yet if thats true; its just speculation.

[Titan76]

LOL, didn't you read the rest of my post?

I disagree with how you think Xavier should be handled, I responded with how I thought he should be handled.
Didn't you read mine?

I wasn't saying this is how Xavier should be handle when he is back, I was wondering and asking how he would be handle when he is brought back and wondering what it will do to the Astonishing team.

[Cayman]

Uh, looks more like Vulcan to me. The guy with the glowing eyes. I think, sadly, Darwin is dead.

Sandy Hausler

Vulcan's already on the cover though, so he's out of contention.

Cay

[Keith_Martineau]

But when he comes back(if he comes back, he may stay with the Shi'ar) then what?

Presumably when that happens, Whedon's run on Astonishing will be over or wrapping up. At least I hope so.


True, Nightcrawler is team leader but that could change at anytime. And its not becuase Havok is a Summers that I want him to be leader(I could care less if he was or wasn't), during his time with X-Factor and under Peter David he was shown to be a great leader and even when Austen brought him back he took over the Uncanny team right away, I think he makes a better leader then Nightcrawler does.

I wasn't suggesting you wanted him to be leader cause he's a Summers, but it definately feels like writers do it for that reason. So I'm pleased with the choice.

[TinMan]

Didn't you read mine?

I wasn't saying this is how Xavier should be handle when he is back, I was wondering and asking how he would be handle when he is brought back and wondering what it will do to the Astonishing team.

Ya, sorry, I just looked back. I didn't pay attention to the "I wonder..." part, I was thinking it was more "I want..." on your part. Misinterpretation, thats all.

[Titan76]

Presumably when that happens, Whedon's run on Astonishing will be over or wrapping up. At least I hope so.
I think we are all hoping that Whedon's run will be over on time before Brubaker's first 12 issues are over.



I wasn't suggesting you wanted him to be leader cause he's a Summers, but it definately feels like writers do it for that reason. So I'm pleased with the choice.
Havok was only leader of the X-men(not X-Factor) under Austen and Millgian, so that really isn't a lot of writers. Nightcrawler always bother me as a leader and to me never really acted like a good one. But will see what Brubaker can do about that.

[Titan76]

Ya, sorry, I just looked back. I didn't pay attention to the "I wonder..." part, I was thinking it was more "I want..." on your part. Misinterpretation, thats all.
No problem, I done it before so its cool. :)

[steve2275]

Uh, looks more like Vulcan to me. The guy with the glowing eyes. I think, sadly, Darwin is dead.

Sandy Hausler
maybe vulcan stole em

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Too many "Summers"...


..if Forced-Grown Vulcan joins...


Let the guy disappear for a moment, and return.


That means that Xavier's image will be redeemed at the end of "DG".


Hmm...

Looks like Gambit, Bishop, Cannonball, and Psylocke are available for..

[Jake V]

Cannonball is gonna be in Carey's X-Men team.

Gambit is RUMORED to be one of the horsemen.

But yeah, Bishop and Psylocke are free.



But Vulcan isn't going to join. He's the villain.

[G.O.K.I.]

Wait, when was it revealed that Vulcan is using the powers of his dead teammates?

[Beast]

Wait, when was it revealed that Vulcan is using the powers of his dead teammates?
Several times in Deadly Genesis, when he makes use of their powers. :)

[Keith_Martineau]

Cannonball is gonna be in Carey's X-Men team.

Gambit is RUMORED to be one of the horsemen.

But yeah, Bishop and Psylocke are free.



But Vulcan isn't going to join. He's the villain.

This will be considered a spoiler. Ignore me as I dunno how to do spoiler tags.



Gambit isn't rumored to be a horseman, it's fact.
Check out the released covers.

[Brian M.]

Me get sooooooooooooooooo horny when looking at colored cover. I love it looooooooooooooooong time.

[Dizzy D]

This will be considered a spoiler. Ignore me as I dunno how to do spoiler tags.



Gambit isn't rumored to be a horseman, it's fact.
Check out the released covers.

<spoil>text here</spoil> with [] instead of <>

[Sandy Hausler]

Theres no way, its already been stated that the villian to come out of Deadly Genesis was being created so the X-Men would have another veritable threat for years to come. So I see no possible way that Vulcan could become an X-Man.

As for Cayman's response; it makes sense, Darwin adapts, so out of all of the 1.5 team he would be the one most likely to survive because he could adapt to the vacuum of space and adapt to not needing food to live. That was his point, but of course we have no idea yet if thats true; its just speculation.

Maybe the villain is Professor Xavier.<g>

Sandy Hausler

[TinMan]

Maybe the villain is Professor Xavier.<g>

Sandy Hausler

Considering that Brubaker has confirmed him as a MEMBER of his Uncanny X-Men team, I find it unlikely that he would be the "NEW villian to threaten the X-Men for years to come".

[streator]

This will be considered a spoiler. Ignore me as I dunno how to do spoiler tags.



Gambit isn't rumored to be a horseman, it's fact.
Check out the released covers.
it's likely to be the case, but it isn't fact. marvel has not said "gambit is a horseman". they've released an image of a guy with gambit-esque qualities choking rogue, but they haven't said "yeah, that's gambit".

[Joe Zool]

I SO called it on Lorna. :D

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2587056&postcount=27

[Carl Orr]

I wonder why Tan has drawn Warpath with such a severe loss of muscle mass in his arms?

[StarsAndGarters]

I wonder why Tan has drawn Warpath with such a severe loss of muscle mass in his arms?Probably because he was ridiculously big to begin with. ;)

Seriously, I'd attribute it to Billy Tan being a much stronger artist with women than men. All his men end up looking feminine.

[xmanson]

Is that Deathbird?

[fishtaco]

Is that Deathbird?Deathbird is on that cover, yes. For some reason, Billy Tan is choosing not to use the better and improved costume of Deathbird that Jim Lee designed, first seen in Uncanny X-Men 274.

[Brian M.]

Deathbird is on that cover, yes. For some reason, Billy Tan is choosing not to use the better and improved costume of Deathbird that Jim Lee designed, first seen in Uncanny X-Men 274.

Yea God forbid someone wants to add there own lil twist to somethings.

[Carl Orr]

Yea God forbid someone wants to add there own lil twist to somethings.

fishtaco is right about Jim Lee's costume being much cooler looking, but it is also much more time consuming to draw because of the extra detail.

[Beast]

Yea God forbid someone wants to add there own lil twist to somethings.
How is simply using an earlier costume design, adding their own twist?

[fishtaco]

Yea God forbid someone wants to add there own lil twist to somethings.A little twist is fine, but when you used the word "own", then it's not. Billy Tan is not Jim Lee, nor is he the artist who designed Deathbird's original costume (was that Cockrum?). Furthermore, Deathbird is dead. If Deathbird actually does appear in Uncanny X-Men soon, then the editors apparently did not do their homework, because she died in Bishop: The Last X-Man 15.

[Beast]

A little twist is fine, but when you used the word "own", then it's not. Billy Tan is not Jim Lee, nor is he the artist who designed Deathbird's original costume (was that Cockrum?). Furthermore, Deathbird is dead. If Deathbird actually does appear in Uncanny X-Men soon, then the editors apparently did not do their homework, because she died in Bishop: The Last X-Man 15.
No, she got sucked out of an airlock. That doesn't mean she's dead. :p

[Affinity]

I was wondering why Deathbird seemed so retro looking. The Jim Lee designed one is a thousand fold better, and even a twist would be cool. Unfortunately, Tan goes for neither.

[fishtaco]

No, she got sucked out of an airlock. That doesn't mean she's dead. :pWell, you can't exactly breathe without oxygen. Not the Aerie, at least. Right?

[Beast]

Well, you can't exactly breathe without oxygen. Not the Aerie, at least. Right?
Doesn't mean she wasn't recovered before death. Or was cloned, or something. :)

Hell, maybe the spaceship 'Heart of Gold' saved her. :D

[Frank]

I wonder why Tan has drawn Warpath with such a severe loss of muscle mass in his arms?

Maybe because the character was much cooler before Liefeld made him a steroid freak...? :rolleyes:

[Will.S]

Deathbird is on that cover, yes. For some reason, Billy Tan is choosing not to use the better and improved costume of Deathbird that Jim Lee designed, first seen in Uncanny X-Men 274.
While I do like her more "teched out" Jim Lee designed Deathbird costume, it is extremely busy so I was hoping that they would just streamline it.

But I don't mind Deathbird's newer more birdlike look since it's pretty close to her original look.

[Stagier]

this just occured to me,
Where is Bishop? does anyone know? maybe he'll be galovanting with betsy, jubes and gateway......

[xmanson]

While I do like her more "teched out" Jim Lee designed Deathbird costume, it is extremely busy so I was hoping that they would just streamline it.

But I don't mind Deathbird's newer more birdlike look since it's pretty close to her original look.


Streamline is one thing, revert her to the old looks (that I think is quite ugly).

[Carl Orr]

Maybe because the character was much cooler before Liefeld made him a steroid freak...? :rolleyes:

Not saying his arms have to be of Liefeld proportions, but they should be bigger than they are drawn on this cover. James is a very big fellow, non-armored Colossus big as a matter of fact.

[Gaveedra 6]

Anybody besides me think a James/Rachel romance would be pretty cool?

He, like her, is a survivor who's outlived his whole family. And he likes redheads.

She's been around the MU for like 20 years and hasnt' had a date since Future Franklin got sizzled.

[Herald of Asgard]

Warpath?!?!?! I'm soooo frickin' there! lol, like I wasn't before. Ed, I think I love you...in a very normal way ( you did get the flowers right?).

[fishtaco]

Anybody besides me think a James/Rachel romance would be pretty cool?

He, like her, is a survivor who's outlived his whole family. And he likes redheads.

She's been around the MU for like 20 years and hasnt' had a date since Future Franklin got sizzled.I didn't realize the similarities between the two. I still don't like the idea because I like the Warpath/Siryn(/Deadpool) thing better, but you have a good point.

[xmanson]

Not saying his arms have to be of Liefeld proportions, but they should be bigger than they are drawn on this cover. James is a very big fellow, non-armored Colossus big as a matter of fact.


He's the resident angry one in the cover - smaller like Logan and with blades!!!

[Affinity]

He does seem kind of big, though, no? Look at Corsair, and then look at him? They seem to be on the same "distance-from-the-reader" level.

And Corsair looks awesome. I love that space pirate feel he has.

[kcekada]

Polaris being in this book in that outfit sealed the deal for me. I'm in.

Same here. Although I would have also settled for the Genoshan costume (kind of a mix of her first costume and the Shi'ar costume). I love the Shi'ar costume -- there's a nice pic of it on the "Draw me a Polairs" thread drawn by Bakla.

But I am wondering just how different this Polaris is going to be. I'll crap my pants if it's Doop possessing Lorna's dead body. :eek:

Cay, what is the reference for that picture of Lorna you're using as an avatar?

[kcekada]

Yeah, I'm confused at which Polaris he is talking about. The one we've had to deal with for the last few years was definately not the one everyone remembers and loves. Maybe, just maybe, she'll regain her sanity completely and return to her X-Factor-esque personality.

And isn't that what we all want?

I'd like to think so!