Anyone Seen Magneto?

[PercussionMasta]

Has Magneto been seen since HoM #8?

[Hi-Fi]

No, he hasn't.

[Beast]

Upcoming Solicits suggest he'll appear in Son of M #5. :)

[PercussionMasta]

Ah, good point, I remember that now. Just wondering if he's peeped up anywhere else yet.

[Flight]

I presume he's still on Genosha.

[BYC]

So Professor X and Magneto are both missing right now? I smell Onslaught!

[Flight]

So Professor X and Magneto are both missing right now? I smell Onslaught! *sticks cotton buds up your nose*

[PercussionMasta]

Hahahaha, don't like Onslaught? I thought that was a fun time...

[ibrakeforchinwe]

I've seen em! We've been hanging out in Sapien bars.

[Doc Pirahna]

I beleive they showed him in the Decimation one shot actually. He was wandering around the ruins of Genosha shoeless, with like a hospital gown thing on. He stopped to try and pick up a fork, and just started crying when he couldn't. Almost brought a tear to my eye.

[Titanium]

He's human now and the X-men just left him there when they found him. He'll appear in Son of M.

[streator]

I beleive they showed him in the Decimation one shot actually. He was wandering around the ruins of Genosha shoeless, with like a hospital gown thing on. He stopped to try and pick up a fork, and just started crying when he couldn't. Almost brought a tear to my eye.
that happened in house of m 8.

[xmanson]

If you consider how poorly done was his return of Planet X, which we got no reaction at all, nor from thinking he was dead or even that he was with Charles in Genosha. I wouldn't be surprise if some heroes find him and leave with a simple "How ya doing, Mags?? Stay cool".

[PercussionMasta]

that happened in house of m 8. Yeah, I was a little confused by that too. I don't remember that happening in the one-shot...

[Erik Lehnsherr]

The Magneto scene happened in House of M #8 and the pitiful homeless man was Quicksilver in Decimation, not Magnus.

[fireball87o]

A
Few
Quick
Questions:

What about the Scarlett witch, has she been around?
Was house of M worth picking up?
Quicksilver was the mastermind of M wasn't he?

[Kirayoshi]

A couple of years from now, I can see Magneto return to power, even without his mutant powers. Have him behind the scenes, manipulating a new 'Brotherhood of Evil Mutants' to take down the X-Men. Only now, being brought down to the level of a mere human, the thing he hates most in all the world, he has become a little insane. Now his motive is to simply eradicate all life. His attitude: "If mutants can no longer take the world as their birthright, I shall leave it to the cockroaches!"

[Haunt]

I beleive they showed him in the Decimation one shot actually. He was wandering around the ruins of Genosha shoeless, with like a hospital gown thing on. He stopped to try and pick up a fork, and just started crying when he couldn't. Almost brought a tear to my eye.


me too but it wouldn't be hard for a writer to get around that. it's not hard to believe that a Magneto who just learned that he was a creation of his insane daughter would be despondent/unable to use his powers for psychosomatic reasons. just because he didn't move the fork doesn't mean that he's no longer a mutant. just saying.

[Bearpod91]

He should just kill himself now...he's got nothing.

[fishtaco]

I want Magneto to become a good guy again. Lee Forrester should pick him up and they should go vacationing, and then Magneto can get together with Xavier again.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I'd like to think the man in Genosha known as Magneto is in fact a construct made by Wanda to be her father and care for her. The real Magneto got twisted by " kick " and became the thing he most dreaded when he killed 5,000 people in New York.

Least he can say he went out better than the piss poor job Marvel has done with him since 2004. :(

[Jkid099]

A
Few
Quick
Questions:

What about the Scarlett witch, has she been around?
Was house of M worth picking up?
Quicksilver was the mastermind of M wasn't he?

In order of asking:

- Not since House of M #8.
- Eh ... the concept was pretty good, the execution fell flat. Really up to you. I wouldn't recommend it as the story wasn't THAT incredible and it had hardly any lasting effects other than Decimation (and that creature thingy that's showing up in the new New Avengers arc).
- Yes, he was.

[Haunt]

I'd like to think the man in Genosha known as Magneto is in fact a construct made by Wanda to be her father and care for her. The real Magneto got twisted by " kick " and became the thing he most dreaded when he killed 5,000 people in New York.

Least he can say he went out better than the piss poor job Marvel has done with him since 2004. :(

you call being twisted by kick and becoming something you've dreaded 'better?' if Magneto were killed now, at least he wouldn't be the bad guy. think about it. he had everything he wanted during House of M. he was somewhat of a hero; depending on which side you fall on. and the heroes selfishly destroyed his reality just because humans weren't on the top of the heap. this is a much better way to go out than being some bacteria's b**ch. :confused:

[SUPERECWFAN1]

you call being twisted by kick and becoming something you've dreaded 'better?' if Magneto were killed now, at least he wouldn't be the bad guy. think about it. he had everything he wanted during House of M. he was somewhat of a hero; depending on which side you fall on. and the heroes selfishly destroyed his reality just because humans weren't on the top of the heap. this is a much better way to go out than being some bacteria's b**ch. :confused:


Considering what we got instead....let the " real " Magneto went out in a blaze of glory. This one is just...sad now. Plus its not like it isn't Magneto as Marvel could explain. He has the same thoughts and feelings...its just Wanda constructed him to be a better father. Thats all.

Sadly Marvel won't do this so theres nothing really we can do. Except think how cool he could have been in a return storyline had they had patience and waited about...6 to 9 months instead of throwing him back 4 months after a huge storyline in a nothing issue of Exclibur vol.3 :(

[Haunt]

Considering what we got instead....let the " real " Magneto went out in a blaze of glory. This one is just...sad now. Plus its not like it isn't Magneto as Marvel could explain. He has the same thoughts and feelings...its just Wanda constructed him to be a better father. Thats all.

Sadly Marvel won't do this so theres nothing really we can do. Except think how cool he could have been in a return storyline had they had patience and waited about...6 to 9 months instead of throwing him back 4 months after a huge storyline in a nothing issue of Exclibur vol.3 :(

yeah, the retconning was annoying. still, how can you call what happened 'going out in a blaze of glory?' blaze of glory was Magneto, surrounded by his loyal acolytes, bidding the X-Men farewell while Asteroid M blew up. Blaze of Glory would have been Magneto dying after the government handed over Genosha to him. Blaze of glory isn't being some new upstart villain's puppet and herding people into ovens. it wasn't even a fight between he and the X-Men. Wolverine just lopped his head off. if that's how you want to remember him, cool. me, i'll take the well-written storires. :)

[Tre Styles]

A
Few
Quick
Questions:

What about the Scarlett witch, has she been around?
Was house of M worth picking up?
Quicksilver was the mastermind of M wasn't he?

Wanda hasn't been around since HOM. However, she did appear in a flashback episode in the Young Avengers Special....and if indications of what's happening in that title, she might show up there again.

I'd say that HOM is worth picking up, especially as a trade. As a series, it read slow, but I bet it reads great as a trade. I liked it overall, could've used a little more action, but eh....I'd say go ahead and pick it up for your collection.

Quicksilver was indeed the mastermind of HOM. He now is appearing in his mini-SON of M, where things are getting weirder and weirder..but it's a cool series.

I think a lot of this is going to tie into this Civil War stuff coming up. The clues and the seeds are being planted in almost every major Marvel title , and mini-series.....

[Loestal]

me too but it wouldn't be hard for a writer to get around that. it's not hard to believe that a Magneto who just learned that he was a creation of his insane daughter would be despondent/unable to use his powers for psychosomatic reasons. just because he didn't move the fork doesn't mean that he's no longer a mutant. just saying.

That's not 100% correct. The Magneto we see in HoM was the real legit Magneto. So was the one that was in Genosha. That wasn't what Strange was talking about, he was speaking of Wanda turning Xorn into a warped twisted version of her father. She didn't create the current powerless Magneto, just turned Xorn into a version of him.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

He should just kill himself now...he's got nothing.

Except one of the most ingenius minds on the planet and a charisma unrivalled by any human/mutant living.

[noh-varr]

I love how everyone wants to sympathise someone who wants to kill the majority of the world. A terrorist by any other name....

Oh and I saw him at the 7-11 he was hanging out with Elvis. :P

[Erik Lehnsherr]

I love how that Morrison induced version of Magneto was a woogie from Wanda too.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

yeah, the retconning was annoying. still, how can you call what happened 'going out in a blaze of glory?' blaze of glory was Magneto, surrounded by his loyal acolytes, bidding the X-Men farewell while Asteroid M blew up. Blaze of Glory would have been Magneto dying after the government handed over Genosha to him. Blaze of glory isn't being some new upstart villain's puppet and herding people into ovens. it wasn't even a fight between he and the X-Men. Wolverine just lopped his head off. if that's how you want to remember him, cool. me, i'll take the well-written storires. :)


Its just that well...Magneto sadly wasn't written well post return in Excalibur. He didn't act like the man who a lot of X-Fans saw in the 1990's. Like Claremont had waved a magic wand and wiped it all away.

Blaze of Glory is going out to fufill his mission. To make Mutants rule. In fact Morrison didn't really go in and change much. Magneto in the 1990's pulled the adimantuim from Wolvie's bones and threatened to change the polar axis of the Earth lol. Its not like he suddenly woke up crazy in Morrison's X-Men. ;)

I love it. He was goin all out to win finally. Humanity had betrayed him in Genosha and he blamed the X-Men. The "kick " drug was driving him more insane and he finally crossed the line and hell...146# always sends a chill down my spine when I read it on how Magneto was the traiter at the school.....brrrr.

I'll choose to remember Magneto that way. And not what sadly happened to him.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

#146 was a classic issue. It's what happened after that issue that was the incredible disappointment. Magneto would GO ALL out to make humanity pay for their arrogance but kill mutantkind to do it? Unacceptable. Kick drugs or not.

[jpk]

He's started his own action figure company.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/jedijpk/ian.jpg

:eek:

[steve2275]

He's started his own action figure company.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/jedijpk/ian.jpg

:eek:
yes sir

[Brian M.]

Magneto as a good guy? But that goes against what Stan Lee and Jack Kirby first introduced. That can't be done, it's not fair, they created Magneto and only they get a say. Quick, give Stand some viagra, tell him he has a movie appearance to make and trick his ass into a chair again to write.

[Haunt]

I love how everyone wants to sympathise someone who wants to kill the majority of the world. A terrorist by any other name....

Oh and I saw him at the 7-11 he was hanging out with Elvis. :P


dude. your name is Noh-Varr. hypocritical-much?

That's not 100% correct. The Magneto we see in HoM was the real legit Magneto. So was the one that was in Genosha. That wasn't what Strange was talking about, he was speaking of Wanda turning Xorn into a warped twisted version of her father. She didn't create the current powerless Magneto, just turned Xorn into a version of him.


yeah, because that makes sense. :) what exactly did Xorn do to deserve this?

[fishtaco]

Magneto as a good guy? But that goes against what Stan Lee and Jack Kirby first introduced. That can't be done, it's not fair, they created Magneto and only they get a say. Quick, give Stand some viagra, tell him he has a movie appearance to make and trick his ass into a chair again to write.Jack is no longer living, so I don't see much of him having a say in the current manner (bless him), and Stan's villains were at best, one-dimensional. Really, they were. Magneto's (reluctant) reformation was required to establish him as a three dimensional character. Rogue as an X-Man goes against what was first introduced, but so what? Juggernaut as an X-Man goes against what Stan and Jack first introduced, but so what? Len Wein intended for Wolverine to be a teenager. So what? Storm's violent nature in the 80's went completely against what was originally established, that being her love and passion for all nature and all living beings. So?

I don't think Stan much cares anymore about what Magneto is. He admitted himself he hasn't read much of the X-Men since he left, so I doubt he knows much about the character that he himself introduced, except for the elements of Magneto that were incorporated into the movie that Claremont came up with, such as him being a Holocaust survivor, and his past friendship with Xavier. Stan did watch the X-Men movies, right?

[noh-varr]

dude. your name is Noh-Varr. hypocritical-much??

I never defended him as not being seen as a terrorist. Though when he blew up New York he made all the people leave the area :P The only time he did kill innocents was against the company virus. Otherwise he attacked those who attacked him. Magneto wants to wipe out a whole race time and time again. Never even learning a moral code above mutants must rule. He's a great villian but I don't see why he needs to be seen or made a good guy, it just doesn't work. Next it will be Thanos is just misunderstood, he just wants to please this girl by wiping everyone out, it's ok.

[Haunt]

I never defended him as not being seen as a terrorist. Though when he blew up New York he made all the people leave the area :P The only time he did kill innocents was against the company virus. Otherwise he attacked those who attacked him. Magneto wants to wipe out a whole race time and time again. Never even learning a moral code above mutants must rule. He's a great villian but I don't see why he needs to be seen or made a good guy, it just doesn't work. Next it will be Thanos is just misunderstood, he just wants to please this girl by wiping everyone out, it's ok.



yeah but the same rationale's at work. Magneto attacks those who have attacked him (sinking the Leningrad) or those who have kept his 'people' down (the rest of humanity). i like him just fine as a bad guy, btw. i see his actions as brutal but no different than any other world power. consider that EM wave he released as Magneto's version of 'shock & awe.'

p.s. it's not like all of his appearances involved 'mutants must rule.' sometimes he just wants to isolate mutantkind from humanity (Genosha). other times he wants nuclear disarmament. Nohvarr, on the other hand, just wanted revenge after they killed his crew.

[noh-varr]

yeah but the same rationale's at work. Magneto attacks those who have attacked him (sinking the Leningrad) or those who have kept his 'people' down (the rest of humanity). i like him just fine as a bad guy, btw. i see his actions as brutal but no different than any other world power. consider that EM wave he released as Magneto's version of 'shock & awe.'

p.s. it's not like all of his appearances involved 'mutants must rule.' sometimes he just wants to isolate mutantkind from humanity (Genosha). other times he wants nuclear disarmament. Nohvarr, on the other hand, just wanted revenge after they killed his crew.


The majority of what Magneto has done involved trying to kill a good portion of humanity (he rarely gets past phase one or two but still). It always cycles back to "Xavier your wrong we must get rid of the humans" speel. If what Magneto does towards humanity happened in real life (lives lost for simular hateful reasons) it would be considered terrorism. Yeah Noh-Varr was getting revenge cuz his crew was killed on a mission of peace. And he was wrong since he blamed the whole of human race for something that was an act by a conceited power mad individual and his cronies. Thus sparking a large battle between the two when he does figure out it's just the one guy. If volume two had ever come out then even more of a case would have been made that Noh-Varr is a terrorist since from his and his new girlfriend's speech at the end they were going to take down the state and form a new Kree empire. Though if you wish to put that Magneto is just like a world power the same could be said for Noh-Varr I think the line is really if the targets of attack are purposefully civilian thus not under ANY modern code of war that exists anymore (nor should it be since war is meant to be a way to deal with conflict with soliders and not civilians, like during the civil war families would pack a lunch and watch a battle) Magneto's acts of attacking humans who aren't attacking him (like destroying New York or any venue where he's going after normal every day joes and janes) would be terrorism.

[noh-varr]

Now after that rant I think I just put too much thought into a comic book character I care little to nothing about at this point in time. Please disagnolidge my comments, I'm just rambling right now I feel like ranting and rambling and apologize for taking up your time in having to read it (this is very sincere honestly). Just an odd mood I'm in. If anything I said is upsetting or just stupid just remember I'm just random nobody online :) and I'm just a big geek stating his opinion!

Noh-Varr: the reason the internet should maybe be monitered! lol

[Lord S]

He should just kill himself now...he's got nothing. Yup...he should 'kick' himself while he's down. LOL.

[noh-varr]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160

Magento and his deaths.

[BYC]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160

Magento and his deaths.
Wow, that is CLASSIC. Definitely a keeper.

[AnthonyJ]

Do we have any actual confirmation that Magneto is powerless? Sure, he let Wolverine manhandle him in HoM #8, but I don't think he got scanned, and he might have just not been resisting -- Mags has a kind of manic-depressive personality.

[Hi-Fi]

Do we have any actual confirmation that Magneto is powerless? Sure, he let Wolverine manhandle him in HoM #8, but I don't think he got scanned, and he might have just not been resisting -- Mags has a kind of manic-depressive personality.

I'm pretty sure that Emma did not find him using Cerebra.

[AnthonyJ]

I'm pretty sure that Emma did not find him using Cerebra.

Magneto not being findable with Cerebro/Cerebra is not exactly new.

[Hi-Fi]

Magneto not being findable with Cerebro/Cerebra is not exactly new.

Yeah, he was faking then. For whatever reason. Silly me...

[AnthonyJ]

It is at least a lazy and not completely implausible retcon for the future, which makes me wonder if it was left open on purpose. As for his reason, let's say you had been fighting for a cause for more than half your life, and you'd gotten everything you'd ever wanted -- and then suddenly had it torn to shreds. That seems like sufficient cause to be depressed, and when Magneto's depressed, he has a tendency to vanish. What better way to hide than to have everyone think he'd become harmless?

[Erik Lehnsherr]

The majority of what Magneto has done involved trying to kill a good portion of humanity (he rarely gets past phase one or two but still). It always cycles back to "Xavier your wrong we must get rid of the humans" speel. If what Magneto does towards humanity happened in real life (lives lost for simular hateful reasons) it would be considered terrorism. Yeah Noh-Varr was getting revenge cuz his crew was killed on a mission of peace. And he was wrong since he blamed the whole of human race for something that was an act by a conceited power mad individual and his cronies. Thus sparking a large battle between the two when he does figure out it's just the one guy. If volume two had ever come out then even more of a case would have been made that Noh-Varr is a terrorist since from his and his new girlfriend's speech at the end they were going to take down the state and form a new Kree empire. Though if you wish to put that Magneto is just like a world power the same could be said for Noh-Varr I think the line is really if the targets of attack are purposefully civilian thus not under ANY modern code of war that exists anymore (nor should it be since war is meant to be a way to deal with conflict with soliders and not civilians, like during the civil war families would pack a lunch and watch a battle) Magneto's acts of attacking humans who aren't attacking him (like destroying New York or any venue where he's going after normal every day joes and janes) would be terrorism.

Magneto didn't attack NY. Xorneto did. Magneto has always acted in the self defense of mutantkind. It's only when the humans attack him that things get extremely violent from his side and frankly, they deserve it. He's a independent power. He should never answer to humans or those too righteous to see the big picture down the road. Oh yeah..Magneto's goal is for a mutant ruled empire. It has never been about killing humans just for the hell of it. Wrong villian, my friend.