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blackdragon6
02-15-2006, 02:16 AM
what do you wanna see return from the tv series?






http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Miami_Vice_Teaser_Poster.jpg

BigJayStudd
02-15-2006, 02:25 AM
what do you wanna see return from the tv series?

Three things....

1.Explosions
2.Boats
3.Pink shirts

Tish-the-Scorpion
02-15-2006, 02:30 AM
i will be pissed if "in the air tonight" by phil collins isn't played over a montage of tubbs,and crockett driving at night on the mean streets of miami in a ferrari drop top.i can actually picture it now


Closeup of Crocketts front quarter panel driving at night. The street lights reflect quickly off the black paint as he speeds down an empty well lit street. "In the air tonight" plays prodomently (sp) and there are no sound effects or ambient engine recordings. We see the 2 of them in the car from each of there perspectives and watch Tubbs load his sawed off with shells. The only time you hear anything aside of the song is when Crocket asks "How much time we have" and Tubbs responds after a few calm seconds... "25 minuets" The scene intensifies gradually


bad ass just bad ass

blackdragon6
02-15-2006, 02:35 AM
Three things....

1.Explosions
2.Boats
3.Pink shirtshell yes,lots of pastel colors,action,gritty crime drama,action,speed boats,action and the whole nine.

plus lots of big explosions.


i will be pissed if "in the air tonight" by phil collins isn't played over a montage of tubbs,and crockett driving at night on the mean streets of miami in a ferrari drop top.i can actually picture it now


Closeup of Crocketts front quarter panel driving at night. The street lights reflect quickly off the black paint as he speeds down an empty well lit street. "In the air tonight" plays prodomently (sp) and there are no sound effects or ambient engine recordings. We see the 2 of them in the car from each of there perspectives and watch Tubbs load his sawed off with shells. The only time you hear anything aside of the song is when Crocket asks "How much time we have" and Tubbs responds after a few calm seconds... "25 minuets" The scene intensifies gradually


bad ass just bad assOH HELL YES!!!!!!! but what about the song "you belong to the city?",that song is bad ass too.

traxler
02-15-2006, 02:48 AM
Is it just me or does Farrell look like George Clooney in that pic?

I'd like to see the same attention to detail in costume, set, location etc,
but an improvement in plot please.

blackdragon6
02-15-2006, 02:56 AM
Is it just me or does Farrell look like George Clooney in that pic?

I'd like to see the same attention to detail in costume, set, location etc,
but an improvement in plot please.
their vice cops,theres not too much of a plot you can get out of that.besides the typical sex,drugs,extreme violence,and stereotypical urban mellow drama..

BigJayStudd
02-15-2006, 03:20 AM
Is it just me or does Farrell look like George Clooney in that pic?

I'd like to see the same attention to detail in costume, set, location etc,
but an improvement in plot please.

Damn, he DOES look like Clooney. No papparazzi at the premiere!

Steve
02-15-2006, 03:24 AM
I'm really looking forward to this film. The trailer looks quite good. Mann is da man!

traxler
02-15-2006, 04:42 AM
their vice cops,theres not too much of a plot you can get out of that.besides the typical sex,drugs,extreme violence,and stereotypical urban mellow drama..
The ancient greeks managed it.

It happens every so often that a director is able to "re-invent" a genre;
I'd like this to be one of those times, that's all.
Here there's the strong advantage that we're all familiar with the basic set-up,
so they can dispense with the usual character introduction scenes.
That gives more time for a genuine plot, rather than a device for showing us
general nekkidness, gymungus explosions and groovy roadsters.

Grant
02-15-2006, 04:49 AM
their vice cops,theres not too much of a plot you can get out of that.besides the typical sex,drugs,extreme violence,and stereotypical urban mellow drama..

"Mellow Drama" I know it's a typo but I like it. It sounds like a Pavement song.

KenK
02-15-2006, 06:49 AM
Wicker loafers and NO SOCKS, BABY! NO SOCKS!!

DubipR
02-15-2006, 06:57 AM
Soundtrack by Glen Frey and Phil Collins, harking back to the great music on the series.

Shellhead
02-15-2006, 08:31 AM
Hollywood is in a downspiral. It seems like most of the new movies these days are sequels, remakes, and even remakes of old tv shows. Can't they at least find some fresh books to adapt, or even some brand new original ideas?

Phil Clark
02-15-2006, 08:44 AM
Tons of itsy bitsy teeny weeny bikinis covering firm succulent flesh.

traxler
02-15-2006, 08:45 AM
Tons of itsy bitsy teeny weeny bikinis covering firm succulent flesh.
Girl-flesh.

Bikinis look silly on boys.

blackdragon6
02-15-2006, 03:34 PM
Tons of itsy bitsy teeny weeny bikinis covering firm succulent flesh.
co-sign i deffinately want scantly clad girls

blackdragon6
02-15-2006, 03:35 PM
Hollywood is in a downspiral. It seems like most of the new movies these days are sequels, remakes, and even remakes of old tv shows. Can't they at least find some fresh books to adapt, or even some brand new original ideas?
i mean its mann's baby if anybody deserves to remake it its him.

Leslie Lee III
02-15-2006, 06:02 PM
Hollywood is in a downspiral. It seems like most of the new movies these days are sequels, remakes, and even remakes of old tv shows.

By your definition that downward spiral has been going on for longer than any of us have been alive, and yet plenty of great movies have been made. This movie might be great, it doesn't matter whatsoever if it's a "remake."

Tish-the-Scorpion
02-15-2006, 11:36 PM
This movie might be great, it doesn't matter whatsoever if it's a "remake."
john carpenters "the thing" prooved that.

Kirayoshi
02-16-2006, 12:30 AM
Is G. Gordon Liddy in it?

Seriously, what would Miami Vice be without Captain Real Estate?

Steve
02-16-2006, 12:56 AM
Is G. Gordon Liddy in it?

Seriously, what would Miami Vice be without Captain Real Estate?
Yep, he'll be there in the flesh enjoying the sun and drinking some ice tea.

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6616/gordan7cs.jpghttp://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5981/gorddy5if.jpg

Tish-the-Scorpion
02-16-2006, 02:53 AM
Yep, he'll be there in the flesh enjoying the sun and drinking some ice tea.

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6616/gordan7cs.jpghttp://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5981/gorddy5if.jpgvomits violently.

KenK
02-16-2006, 06:01 AM
i mean its mann's baby if anybody deserves to remake it its him.

That's how I see it? People piss and moan about remakes, when there have been plenty of films that were remakes and still enjoyable. And Black's right, if anyone's gonna do it, why not the creator of the damn series!

Bored at 3:00AM
02-16-2006, 12:17 PM
I want Don Freakin' Johnson, dammit. He's not too old! He's still cool! Really he is! The chicks dig him on the Nash Bridges, don't they?

EZMOHR
02-16-2006, 12:18 PM
I don't want this to bare any resemblence to Bad Boys II. Which, the previews and the plot sound like.

KenK
02-16-2006, 02:56 PM
I don't want this to bare any resemblence to Bad Boys II. Which, the previews and the plot sound like.

Aside from it taking place in Miami, I see nothing about it resembling Bad Boys II. The cinematography and overall tone of the film are completely different. This movie isn't going to revolved around a multitude of overblown action sequences. The pacing looks like it'll be a lot slower than Bad Boys as well.

EZMOHR
02-16-2006, 03:09 PM
Aside from it taking place in Miami, I see nothing about it resembling Bad Boys II. The cinematography and overall tone of the film are completely different. This movie isn't going to revolved around a multitude of overblown action sequences. The pacing looks like it'll be a lot slower than Bad Boys as well.


I don't know, they show the lights and glitz of Miami just like Bad Boys II. They filmed in the Dominican Republic. I mean, were Bad Boys II turned from bad movie, to bad movie on an epic scale was when Miami cops went to Cuba. I just don't want Miami Cops to go to the Dominican Republic in this. I believe in Mann to make a great film.

Calamas
02-16-2006, 09:31 PM
Hollywood is in a downspiral. It seems like most of the new movies these days are sequels, remakes, and even remakes of old tv shows. Can't they at least find some fresh books to adapt, or even some brand new original ideas?
But this is an original idea. Director Michael Mann created the series. It’s his idea, his baby. Artist in other medium are allowed to go back and update or re-imagine their work. Why not Mann. He’s learned a lot in the years since. Allow him a chance to apply it. With the talent involved, this should be good.

I’m optimistic.

Royal
02-17-2006, 04:46 PM
i will be pissed if "in the air tonight" by phil collins isn't played over a montage of tubbs,and crockett driving at night on the mean streets of miami in a ferrari drop top.i can actually picture it now


Closeup of Crocketts front quarter panel driving at night. The street lights reflect quickly off the black paint as he speeds down an empty well lit street. "In the air tonight" plays prodomently (sp) and there are no sound effects or ambient engine recordings. We see the 2 of them in the car from each of there perspectives and watch Tubbs load his sawed off with shells. The only time you hear anything aside of the song is when Crocket asks "How much time we have" and Tubbs responds after a few calm seconds... "25 minuets" The scene intensifies gradually


bad ass just bad ass

Don't forget the scene where Tibbs meets Calderone. Talk about the air being thick.

"Only in Miami does home seem so far away!!"

blackdragon6
02-17-2006, 05:21 PM
Don't forget the scene where Tibbs meets Calderone. Talk about the air being thick.

"Only in Miami does home seem so far away!!"
what song played during this scene?

Tish-the-Scorpion
07-27-2006, 06:56 PM
so who's gonna watch this tommorow?

Royal
07-27-2006, 07:26 PM
what song played during this scene?

I think it was a cover of Lionel Richie's "All Night Long".

Royal
07-27-2006, 07:28 PM
i will be pissed if "in the air tonight" by phil collins isn't played over a montage of tubbs,and crockett driving at night on the mean streets of miami in a ferrari drop top.i can actually picture it now


Closeup of Crocketts front quarter panel driving at night. The street lights reflect quickly off the black paint as he speeds down an empty well lit street. "In the air tonight" plays prodomently (sp) and there are no sound effects or ambient engine recordings. We see the 2 of them in the car from each of there perspectives and watch Tubbs load his sawed off with shells. The only time you hear anything aside of the song is when Crocket asks "How much time we have" and Tubbs responds after a few calm seconds... "25 minuets" The scene intensifies gradually


bad ass just bad ass


Check it out! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tnyp9tRXRo)

DWEarhart
07-27-2006, 09:20 PM
Michael Mann is probably the only director I'll still go to a theater to see a movie from.

I get a wicked adrenaline chubby every time I watch the trailer, and I'm not the biggest fan of either actor.

What I want is some drama, and...

"Explosions, boobs, explosions. It used to be boobs, explosions, boobs, but women have advanced so far these days." - Buddy Hackett.

Truthfully, I can't wait.

Any Bad Boys 2 comparisons will stir my ire, indeed.

Tish-the-Scorpion
07-27-2006, 10:33 PM
Check it out! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tnyp9tRXRo)*tear rolls down* HELL MUTHAFUCKIN YEAH!!!

DWEarhart
07-27-2006, 10:37 PM
Check it out! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tnyp9tRXRo)

I've heard the Lost Prophets version in the trailer for the movie, and I cried "Heresy."

You don't ufck, with Phil Collins, especially when it comes to Miami Vice.

Royal
07-27-2006, 10:45 PM
big fan of Calderone's Demise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-To3kWSzS8) myself.

CaptainAwesome
07-27-2006, 11:51 PM
Michael Mann is probably the only director I'll still go to a theater to see a movie from.

I get a wicked adrenaline chubby every time I watch the trailer, and I'm not the biggest fan of either actor.

What I want is some drama, and...

"Explosions, boobs, explosions. It used to be boobs, explosions, boobs, but women have advanced so far these days." - Buddy Hackett.

Truthfully, I can't wait.

Any Bad Boys 2 comparisons will stir my ire, indeed.
It is so rare that someone can express my feelings so aptly that not even I could do a better job, yet here you go and do it.

DWEarhart
07-27-2006, 11:54 PM
It is so rare that someone can express my feelings so aptly that not even I could do a better job, yet here you go and do it.

It's just one of those days.
Hope you enjoy the flick.

Mon-el
07-28-2006, 12:47 AM
Just got back from seeing it.

I'm not really a big Miami Vice fan either. I have probably watched less than 20 episodes. I went because I was bored, and it was a Thursday night and my friend was showing it at his theater.

This is a cop drama movie. If your trying to compare this to a big summer action film’s or compare it to Pirates, Superman Returns, or X-Men 3, then this isn't the movie for you. It felt like a 2hr and 20 minute episode of Miami Vice which to me was perfect on how it should have been handled.

There isn't any itsy, teeny, bikini’s. though a couple of butt and boob shots though. Mostly the skin you see is really just a couple of club scenes.

Bombs, Guns, Drugs, Planes, Cars, Boats, Mansions, Clubs are definitely in there though.

Well I found it entertaining, and that’s all I was asking for was just to be entertained.

As to Pink Shirts and White suits, you get White suits, but no pink shirts, and as to the loafers with no socks, I don’t believe or I don’t recall they even showed any foot ware in the movie.

P.S. You don’t get “In the Air Tonight” by Phil Collins while Sonny and Tubbs are driving, but it is the first song at the beginning of the credits, some new remixed version.

CaptainAwesome
07-28-2006, 01:24 AM
This is a cop drama movie. If your trying to compare this to a big summer action film’s or compare it to Pirates, Superman Returns, or X-Men 3, then this isn't the movie for you. It felt like a 2hr and 20 minute episode of Miami Vice which to me was perfect on how it should have been handled.


Ive heard that there is supposed to be a giant gun fight that rivals the one in Heat. Is this true? Does it live up to the hype?

Mon-el
07-28-2006, 01:54 AM
Ive heard that there is supposed to be a giant gun fight that rivals the one in Heat. Is this true? Does it live up to the hype?


There is a giant gun fight. In this movie it's more than just Crockett and Tubbs, their are 5 members of the unit(6 if you count Tubb's girlfriend). I would give the edge to Heat because it's broad daylight and about twice as many people they are fighting with, but that's just me.


real spoilers below: so don't read if you want know.


Their Captain and a sniper take out 2 snipers and the 5 of them have a huge gun fight with about a dozen guys, with only 1 of the Vice unit getting shot in the leg before s.w.a.t. arrives. Sunny makes this last ditch effort to save his "girlfriend" who see's his badge while fighting, She runs to Sunny and starts hitting him while the gun fight is going on then Sunny grabs her falls down back first shoots out the legs of the bad guy in between the cars and then right when bad guy is about to shoot them both, Sunny while on the ground shoots him twice in the head.

I found the scene before the dock scene to be more intense, involving the trailer park.

SteelTownr
07-28-2006, 05:19 AM
Hollywood is in a downspiral. It seems like most of the new movies these days are sequels, remakes, and even remakes of old tv shows. Can't they at least find some fresh books to adapt, or even some brand new original ideas?

Umm, sure here are the movies currently out that are original Ideas.

Nacho Libre
You, Me and Dupree
The Lady in the Water
My Super Ex-Girlfriend
Monster House
The Devil Wears Prada
Little Man
Cars
Click


It is OK to rehash old ideas because sometimes people like them.

Mark B.

Lord of Denial
07-28-2006, 06:30 AM
Umm, sure here are the movies currently out that are original Ideas.

Nacho Libre
You, Me and Dupree
The Lady in the Water
My Super Ex-Girlfriend
Monster House
The Devil Wears Prada
Little Man
Cars
Click


It is OK to rehash old ideas because sometimes people like them.

Mark B.

Little Man is actually inspired by a Bugs Bunny cartoon. And My Super-Ex Girlfriend is basically a pissed off crazy female version of Superman they have the same exact powerset.

But good list otherwise.

KenK
07-28-2006, 06:40 AM
Devil Wears Prada is based on a book.

Lord of Denial
07-28-2006, 06:50 AM
Devil Wears Prada is based on a book.


Oops missed one! My bad.

the film freak
07-28-2006, 10:36 AM
I want Don Freakin' Johnson, dammit. He's not too old! He's still cool! Really he is! The chicks dig him on the Nash Bridges, don't they?

If by chicks you mean my grandmother then yes they still do.

the film freak
07-28-2006, 10:38 AM
The lack of Jan Hammer and Vangelis is rather suspect. Remember back in the day when Vangelis and Tangerine Dream scored every action movie.

kalorama
07-28-2006, 10:50 AM
Little Man is actually inspired by a Bugs Bunny cartoon. And My Super-Ex Girlfriend is basically a pissed off crazy female version of Superman they have the same exact powerset.

Except Superman's not a woman or a violent stalker out for revenge. It's an original story idea that uses a twist on a familiar character archetype.

Donald M.
07-28-2006, 02:36 PM
Originality's overrated anyway. Like Roger Ebert said, it's not what a movie is about but how it is about it. Basic concepts don't matter worth a damn compared to the final execution.

That said, the final execution of Miami Vice was merely okay, though there were some nice moments packed in there.

Shellhead
07-28-2006, 02:53 PM
This new Miami Vice looked okay when I saw some previews the other night on network tv, along with some backstage stuff and the entire pilot for the original Miami Vice show. It sounds like Mann went to a lot of trouble to get the details right for this new movie, though I'm troubled that half the movie doesn't even take place in Florida, let alone Miami. The one thing I didn't like in the previews was that it looks like Foxx decided to play the Tubbs role with some seriously annoying overacting.

Donald M.
07-28-2006, 02:56 PM
This new Miami Vice looked okay when I saw some previews the other night on network tv, along with some backstage stuff and the entire pilot for the original Miami Vice show. It sounds like Mann went to a lot of trouble to get the details right for this new movie, though I'm troubled that half the movie doesn't even take place in Florida, let alone Miami. The one thing I didn't like in the previews was that it looks like Foxx decided to play the Tubbs role with some seriously annoying overacting.

Actually, I'd call it underacting myself. I don't think he or Farrell exhibited a single discernible emotion through 95% of the film. Definately not a film either will be remembered for.

Shellhead
07-28-2006, 03:25 PM
Actually, I'd call it underacting myself. I don't think he or Farrell exhibited a single discernible emotion through 95% of the film. Definately not a film either will be remembered for.

Hmm. The show that I saw on Saturday night on tv was mostly the original Miami Vice pilot, bracketed by behind the scenes looks and previews of the new movie. At several points, Foxx was laughing loudly or shouting, which gave me the impression that it was overacting. But now that I think about it, that could have been backstage horseplay, not samples of his actual performance in this movie.

CaptainAwesome
07-28-2006, 03:31 PM
Actually, I'd call it underacting myself. I don't think he or Farrell exhibited a single discernible emotion through 95% of the film. Definately not a film either will be remembered for.
So its not exactly Heat or Collateral is what your're saying right?

Donald M.
07-28-2006, 03:32 PM
So its not exactly Heat or Collateral is what your're saying right?

Yeah, but did anyone expect it to be?

CaptainAwesome
07-28-2006, 05:24 PM
Yeah, but did anyone expect it to be?
Its just that they are using those movies to sell this one. "From the director of Heat and Collateral..."blah blah blah. I still want to see it because I like Michael Mann's pseudo-neo-noir style of directing and that I've actually had to live through the filming living in South Florida.

Donald M.
07-28-2006, 05:28 PM
Its just that they are using those movies to sell this one.

You say that like it's an unexpected approach for them to take.

Rule of thumb: The harder they try to sell a film by invoking a director's past triumphs, the less likely it is to resemble those triumphs.

DDM
07-28-2006, 05:59 PM
Soundtrack by Glen Frey and Phil Collins, harking back to the great music on the series.


You'll get none of that in the film. The creator even snubbed the original Miami Vice theme for the film. Phil Collins' "In the Air Tonight" is a cover by some unknown artist.

Miami Vice is going to bomb this weekend.

Donald M.
07-28-2006, 06:16 PM
Miami Vice is going to bomb this weekend.

We'll see, but you could be right.

It certainly isn't, "The summer movie people have been waiting for," as the ads put it.

Patman
07-28-2006, 08:43 PM
One word review: Droll.

Some scenes felt like COPS on a big budget, while other sequences overstayed their welcome (mainly Sonny's subplot in the 2nd act). Perhaps it was just too lowkey for my expectations, it needed a little more excitement throughout the film, not just for its climax. The characterizations felt thin to me as well. Afterwards, I overheard one viewer expressing his disappointment over the lack of "juice" (adrenaline) and fast cars, chase scenes, the "coolness" factor. Maybe it was played just too flat, too realistic for some viewer's expectations.

I give it 2.5 stars, or a grade of C+.

Tish-the-Scorpion
07-28-2006, 08:47 PM
I overheard one viewer expressing his disappointment over the lack of "juice" (adrenaline) and fast cars, chase scenes, the "coolness" factor. Maybe it was played just too flat, too realistic for some viewer's expectations.if anything's gonna hurt it is this.

CaptainAwesome
07-29-2006, 12:39 AM
This is a long shot, but does anyone know if the original show is re-airing in syndication? I remember a few months ago that it was on both TV Land and Spike, but now I cant seem to find it anywhere. Is there some reason why it wouldnt be airing when the movie is just coming out? It seems like the producers would jump at that opportunity.

blackdragon6
07-30-2006, 07:38 PM
This is a long shot, but does anyone know if the original show is re-airing in syndication? I remember a few months ago that it was on both TV Land and Spike, but now I cant seem to find it anywhere. Is there some reason why it wouldnt be airing when the movie is just coming out? It seems like the producers would jump at that opportunity.they now air on the slueth network

CaptainAwesome
07-30-2006, 08:40 PM
they now air on the slueth network
Crud. I dont get that one.

blackdragon6
07-30-2006, 09:42 PM
Crud. I dont get that one.apparently i do its channel one hundred something or the other.i just happened to be clicking threw the channels and there it was.

Tish-the-Scorpion
07-30-2006, 09:54 PM
it bombed :(

Domestic Total as of Jul. 30, 2006: $25,195,000 (Estimate)


poor mann

CaptainAwesome
07-30-2006, 10:00 PM
it bombed :(

Domestic Total as of Jul. 30, 2006: $25,195,000 (Estimate)


poor mann
What was the budget? I think this was one of those movies where the budget just got out of hand. I know 25 mil isnt great, but it did knock Pirates out of the top spot.

Tish-the-Scorpion
07-30-2006, 10:26 PM
What was the budget? I think this was one of those movies where the budget just got out of hand. I know 25 mil isnt great, but it did knock Pirates out of the top spot.the budget was like 125 i think.it'll deffinatly need good dvd sales.

CaptainAwesome
07-30-2006, 10:40 PM
the budget was like 125 i think.it'll deffinatly need good dvd sales.
Yeah, that got way out of hand. I bet that Mann could have done it for a lot less if he had just stayed in Miami for the filming. Oh well, the reviews arent terrible. I think this is the kind of movie that will be better recieved in a few years when people who arent familiar with the series start to watch it.

Nikita
07-31-2006, 12:54 AM
I keep hearing that this movie is dark and serious. I want to see it but I'm kind of surprised because the TV show had a lot of humor in it which helped to make it great. I thought the movie would have some of that as well but apparently not. I haven't seen it yet but if I probably will soon.

KenK
07-31-2006, 06:41 AM
I keep hearing that this movie is dark and serious. I want to see it but I'm kind of surprised because the TV show had a lot of humor in it which helped to make it great. I thought the movie would have some of that as well but apparently not. I haven't seen it yet but if I probably will soon.

But for all its humor, the show did have a rather serious edge. It did get pretty ugly sometimes, and I think too many people look back on that show from a vague perspective. We remember the music and clothes and whatnot being so indicative of the 80s that we forget other elements of the show.

CaptainAwesome
07-31-2006, 02:51 PM
I keep hearing that this movie is dark and serious. I want to see it but I'm kind of surprised because the TV show had a lot of humor in it which helped to make it great. I thought the movie would have some of that as well but apparently not. I haven't seen it yet but if I probably will soon.
1) Breast...er...best avatar ever.;)

2) Michael Mann, who was the creator of the original show and also the director of the new movie has displayed that he is pretty embarassed by the show or at least the later seasons. Im not too familiar with the show so the changes dont bother me like they would some, but this movie I think was supposed to be more along the lines of Mann's recent movies.

CaptainAwesome
07-31-2006, 02:53 PM
delete this

Nikita
07-31-2006, 06:21 PM
1) Breast...er...best avatar ever.;)

2) Michael Mann, who was the creator of the original show and also the director of the new movie has displayed that he is pretty embarassed by the show or at least the later seasons. Im not too familiar with the show so the changes dont bother me like they would some, but this movie I think was supposed to be more along the lines of Mann's recent movies.


Well that's quite the bummer because the show was great.

blackdragon6
07-31-2006, 06:58 PM
1) Breast...er...best avatar ever.;)

2) Michael Mann, who was the creator of the original show and also the director of the new movie has displayed that he is pretty embarassed by the show or at least the later seasons. .wasn't that the time when dick wolf took over?

CaptainAwesome
07-31-2006, 08:28 PM
wasn't that the time when dick wolf took over?
I couldnt say for sure, but I do think it was when the show was changing hands. Like Ive said i'm not really that familiar with the show and most of my info comes from E! True Hollywood Story or Entertainment Weekly.