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Drifter
02-08-2006, 08:11 AM
**possible spoilers lie ahead**

Just a fun thread to remember those moments when reading a comic made you almost drop the book and say "OH S***" :eek: and I mean the good kind of S***! not the... "they just ruined my favorite comic S***"

One I can think of right now would be The Invasion in the latest Ultimates title. An entire Countries defences torn down and taken over in a matter of 5 pages.

OR

More recently, the conclusion to the Night Hawk Series with the WhiteFace confrontation. Grappling hook through the chest!? Oh S***! :p

BigJayStudd
02-08-2006, 08:15 AM
It wasn't my favorite comic, but when I flipped the page and Mealstrom had cut off Quasar's hands..........that was crazy.

Expletive Deleted
02-08-2006, 08:17 AM
I'll second Jay's choice. That was pretty crazy.

Incidentally, I changed the thread title because, while I appreciate the effort to disguise the expletive, it's not really something I want to see on the front page.

mattbib
02-08-2006, 08:18 AM
When the haze briefly cleared within the coccoon that the Avengers had retrieved from Jamaica Bay, assumed at that point to have been one of the Hive's experiments, to reveal Jean Grey.

agrich
02-08-2006, 08:21 AM
The most recent one that leaps to mind is when Scott Lang appeared to have been murdered in Jessica Jones' bed at the end of Alias (I believe) #26.

Iron Lad running a sharp pointy object through Kang's chest at the end of Young Avengers - 5? - was another recent one. As was Magneto getting torn apart in Marvel Zombies 1.

Going back a ways, there's not much that can top Bullseye skewering Elektra on her own Sai back in DD 181.

BigJayStudd
02-08-2006, 08:24 AM
I'll second Jay's choice. That was pretty crazy.

Incidentally, I changed the thread title because, while I appreciate the effort to disguise the expletive, it's not really something I want to see on the front page.

I guess you could say the.........................Expletive was deleted.

dingo
02-08-2006, 08:26 AM
I guess you could say the.........................Expletive was deleted.
Dude....you have just been waiting for an opportunity to use that joke for ages, haven't you? :p

BigJayStudd
02-08-2006, 08:27 AM
Dude....you have just been waiting for an opportunity to use that joke for ages, haven't you? :p

Since the day I seen his screen name. :D

agrich
02-08-2006, 08:28 AM
Have to add one more...from Marvel's original Epic line, Dreadstar #14, where the Lord Papal grabs hold of Vanth Dreadstar's sword ("Why should I bother to deflect your ridiculous sword when I can simply....seize it?!!") and shatters the thing, leaving the book's title character an old man near death. Pretty cool at the time.

Chiasm
02-08-2006, 08:29 AM
In a Marvel book - When Wolverine tried to murder Phoenix (Rachel Summers version).

In a non Marvel book - so many moments from Preacher (my favorite ever series by any company).

When the Rottweiler bites off Herr Starr's balls.
When the cannibals eat Herr Starrs leg.
When one of the sex detectives gets hold of Herr Starr in the alley.
When Jesse comes across Herr Starr's toy and we finally see what it is.
So many scenes involving the further mutilation or degredation of Starr. :D

But the biggest one has to be at the end of the 2nd to last issue after Tulip has killed Starr and see Jesse's lifeless body on the ground.

BigJayStudd
02-08-2006, 08:30 AM
I'll add another one too. The entire issue of Infinity Gauntlet #4. Outside of an X-men elseworlds, stuff like that just didn't happen back then.

Drifter
02-08-2006, 08:31 AM
I'll second Jay's choice. That was pretty crazy.

Incidentally, I changed the thread title because, while I appreciate the effort to disguise the expletive, it's not really something I want to see on the front page.

my bad! I would have never thought of crap :)

Another big one from me was the end of the first Ultimate X-men arc, both when magneto had the white house burning and a naked gravling president at his feet, Wolverines "resignation" stab through the chest and the final betrayle of Pietro, stealing his helmet...

Expletive Deleted
02-08-2006, 08:36 AM
S'allright.

dingo
02-08-2006, 08:45 AM
I'll add another one too. The entire issue of Infinity Gauntlet #4. Outside of an X-men elseworlds, stuff like that just didn't happen back then.

That was awesome, but I think I noticed straight away that the retcon was already built in.

I think the biggest response from a comic I ever had was the stillbirth of Reed and Sues second child. That one panel on a black page was incredible.

malephoenix
02-08-2006, 08:54 AM
That was awesome, but I think I noticed straight away that the retcon was already built in.

I think the biggest response from a comic I ever had was the stillbirth of Reed and Sues second child. That one panel on a black page was incredible.

That sounds pretty well done, artistically. Anyone have a link/scan of that?

DDM
02-08-2006, 09:00 AM
When Wolverine stabbed Rachel Summers, Phoenix II, in the heart & lungs to prevent her from murdering Selene, the Hellfire Club's Black Queen in Uncanny X-Men #207 in the heat of passion.

Angel of Death
02-08-2006, 09:11 AM
Colossus' suicide in Xmen 390 for sure!

Keith_Martineau
02-08-2006, 09:27 AM
I'll add another one too. The entire issue of Infinity Gauntlet #4. Outside of an X-men elseworlds, stuff like that just didn't happen back then.

Oh yeah man. Especially the scene with Teraxia and Iron Man. That was just twisted!

Hi-Fi
02-08-2006, 09:30 AM
One more vote for Infinity Gauntlet 4. It blew me away.

Violently Apathetic
02-08-2006, 09:39 AM
That sounds pretty well done, artistically. Anyone have a link/scan of that?

Here's a part of it, Link, link, follow the link (http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jun30/badnews.jpg)

Zero Hunter
02-08-2006, 09:54 AM
Alpha Flight 12 (original series). After getting severly beaten Guardians suit is about to overload and explode. He starts to power it down and then his wife bursts in the door just in time to see him blow up and be reduced to a pile of smoldering ash on the floor. To take the the character who was obviously the main star of the book and kill them like that so soon was just awesome and told you that anyting could happen in this series.

StoneGold
02-08-2006, 09:56 AM
Holy crap! All of the heroes are dead, and they've been replaced with the Masters of Evil!!!

agrich
02-08-2006, 10:05 AM
To take the the character who was obviously the main star of the book and kill them like that so soon was just awesome and told you that anyting could happen in this series.

While I agree with you, and remember being stunned at the time, I'd also argue that doing that basically killed the series, and the team, along with it. I stuck with the book up into the 30s or 40s but never thought it was particularly good after they killed Guardian. I wonder if anyone at Marvel later felt that making that statement - "anything can happen" - was worth it.

Dark Soul # 7
02-08-2006, 10:09 AM
The return of Norman Osborn.
It blew me away so friggin much that had to hitch-hike back to the comic.

agrich
02-08-2006, 10:26 AM
The return of Norman Osborn.


That was a really crappy moment.

MrBeebs37
02-08-2006, 11:04 AM
The last 3 or 4 pages of Grant Morrison's 1st issue of New X-men. I couldn't believe what was happening and that it was happening 22 pages into the begining of someone's run.

Wannabe
02-08-2006, 11:12 AM
I remember an Avengers comic, I don't recall which issue, but it was set in the future. There weren't very many Avengers left, and during a battle, Hulk comes in and rips Tigra in half. That blew me away.

Lord S
02-08-2006, 11:38 AM
I'll add another one too. The entire issue of Infinity Gauntlet #4. Outside of an X-men elseworlds, stuff like that just didn't happen back then. I agree...more specifically when Dr. Doom tried to grab the Gauntlet and was nearly fried by Thanos.

Masterson Thor pounding Gladiator in the head with his hammer during 'Operation: Galactic Storm' was pretty shocking as well.

Plus I'm sure a lot of people were yelling "oh crap" at the time when Magneto ripped Wolverine's adamantium out of his body...a classic moment.

Mideon
02-08-2006, 12:15 PM
For me, be they crappy or not, here are my craziest moments. Keep in mind I was a huge fanboy kid.

-Wolverine getting his adamantium ripped out, followed by Xavier mind-wiping Mags.
-the return of the Spider-Clone
-Peter being revealed as the clone
-Spider-Carnage
-Osborn's return
-Aunt May finding out Peter's Spider-Man
-Colossus' death

Honestly, that's about it since I mostly only read Spidey as a kid, and it was during his worst era ever basically heh

bosshog7169
02-08-2006, 12:26 PM
Marvel has had a lot of great oh crap moments over the years. The most recent one that really stands out for me was the last issue of Daredevil, the final Bendis issue.

If you haven't read it then don't read these spoilers i'm about to mention, but I said "Oh crap" or something of that nature more times in this book than in any other book I can remember:

1) When Daredevil breaks out of the courtroom to go runaway with his lover
2) When Bullseye appears and kills her
3) When Daredevil kills Bullseye
4) When Daredevil meets up with Elektra and they get freaky
5) When the story flashes back to the courtroom and you realize none of that actually happened
6) When kingpin and Daredevil get sent to prison

That's five awesome oh crap moments in one issue. I don't even like Daredevil that much but this book was the pinacle of "oh crap"!

bosshog7169
02-08-2006, 12:28 PM
actually thats six... i said five... i failed math in high school, sorry

Shem the Penman
02-08-2006, 12:59 PM
The last 3 or 4 pages of Grant Morrison's 1st issue of New X-men. I couldn't believe what was happening and that it was happening 22 pages into the begining of someone's run.

And don't forget one famous scene from later in Morrison's run:

"Mister Xorn ... why is that map upside down?"

Plus, the end of Thunderbolts #1.

DDM
02-08-2006, 01:05 PM
Psylocke defeats Wolverine in Uncanny X-Men #257 with her psychic knife; he is taken by surprise to find Lady Mandarin is his former team mate, Betsy Braddock.

Mojo gives Betsy her bionic eyes in The New Mutants Annual #2.

Spiral transforms Lady Deathstrike into a cyborg & gives her adamantium claws similar to Wolverine's in Uncanny X-Men #205.

Spiral renders Rachel Summers amnesiac in Uncanny X-Men #209 then takes her to Mojo World to be Mojo's slave.

Most of the Morlocks are killed by the Marauders in Uncanny X-Men #211-214, X-Factor #10-11.

Malice possesses Lorna Dane in Uncanny X-Men #219 to lead the Marauders as Alex Summers goes back to Xavier's school & the X-Men to wonder why his memories are wrong.

Accroître
02-08-2006, 01:24 PM
My most vivid wow moment in comics was in one of the X-Men titles when Jean Grey was shopping at the Gap? when Onslaught came to pay a visit. And Jean held her own. Then when she went back to see Scott holding the bags, I was like...yeah she is awesome and can pretty much kick anyones butt :evilsmile

Drifter
02-08-2006, 01:25 PM
And don't forget one famous scene from later in Morrison's run:

"Mister Xorn ... why is that map upside down?"

Plus, the end of Thunderbolts #1.

I've never seen how this big reveal was handled? does anyone have a link to a full description of what happened during this run? with pictures would be even better!

Kirayoshi
02-08-2006, 01:26 PM
The last five pages of Astonishing X-Men #4. Not only the fact that Colossus was back, but how it was handled. Piotr collapsing and weeping in Kitty's arms. Talk about a gut-check moment!

Lord S
02-08-2006, 01:29 PM
Marrow stabs Wolverine square in the neck, nearly killing him. A moment later he pounces on her, and the tables are turned!

The Lucky One
02-08-2006, 02:01 PM
Can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet, but the end of X-Factor #71. Here you've had a really lighthearted issue, jokes all the way through, setting up the team and introducing everybody... only to end with Madrox answering the door and immediately taking a shotgun blast to the chest, falling through a plate glass window, and slamming into the ground from several stories up, clearly dead. That's the kind of thing you see in gangster movies, not Marvel comics, and it shocked the hell out of me at the time.

-D

devil_may_care
02-08-2006, 02:29 PM
When Jean and Scott got married and nothing really bad happened. It'd be a different story if they lived in Melrose Place.

On the serious side, I'd guess when Colossus joined Magneto after his sister died was pretty neat. I can't remember how old I was but up until that point I didn't realize good guys changed sides like that. that story also led to another "OH CRAP" moment in Wolverine getting his adamantium getting sucked out through his pores.

I find that nowadays we don't get as much "Oh Crap" moments. Especially with the internet around. Hawkeye dying could have been a huge even if everyone didn't already see it coming.

Also, it's not like I experienced reading the issue when it came out, but Gwen Stacy dying is prolly on a top ten list of all time Comic book "oh crap" moments. *snap*

Roquefort Raider
02-08-2006, 03:11 PM
Mmmh...

I was amazed when, in the first Secret Wars series, Doctor Doom went after the Beyonder's power and actually managed to steal it all for himself, after being literally torn to pieces. We had been told for almost a year how the Beyonder was on a God-Almighty level of power, and Doomsie showed an amazing amount of chutzpah in attempting what was almost certain suicide.


I also quite liked the second return of Baron Karza in the original Micronauts series. In a nutshell, the baron (the series über-bad guy, for those unfamiliar with him) had been living as a parasite in the body of one of the good guys whom he had slowly corrupted. Somewhere around issue #50, as he had all the series' cast conveniently surrounded in an arena, Karza burst out of his shell. He then proceeded to kill half of the cast without half trying, and none of these characters came back. Talk about a badass vilain...

Ivan Isaacs
02-08-2006, 03:19 PM
Ultimates #7 when Hawkeye and Widow started to go Matrix... woah!
the Collector getting killed by Michael Korvac
Alicia Masters being revealed as a Skrull (sweet Lyja!)
Reverend Stryker getting shot by... a cop!
Scourge revealed as Nomad
Mockingbird killing Ghost/Nightrider
Hawkeye returning from Paris and Mockingbird hits him in the face [priceless!]
more or less every issue of Young Avengers
Colossus' return in AXM
AXM #7 or #8 the final page with the dead mutant in the Danger Room *shivers*

DDM
02-08-2006, 03:20 PM
Phoenix's psionic duel with the Emma Frost, the White Queen of the Hellfire Club seemingly ends in her suicide in Uncanny X-Men #131, but months later, Emma Frost is very much alive & takes over Storm's body & powers with her psychic enchange gun while Sebastian Shaw releases his Sentinels on the X-Men in Uncanny X-Men #151-152. I love how Kitty is not quite certain Ororo is herself in Emma's body. And how the Hellfire Club used Emma's telepathy to change Kitty's parents' minds about Frost's Massachusettes Academy.

CaptainAwesome
02-08-2006, 06:19 PM
The whole end half of Ultimates 1, but specifically: "Do you think the A stands for France?"

Also, 2001's Captain America relaunch, issue #3, where Cap breaks the guy's neck.

Ultimates 2, when Hawkey's family buys it. And when the villains take over in issue 9.

jaguarshark
02-08-2006, 11:04 PM
I grew up during the much-hated Clone Saga, so like an earlier poster, my all-time favourite "OH CRAP" marvel moment would have to be the reveal of Norman Osborn as the big bad at the end of the third part of 'Revelations'. Having said that, the last part of the story, in Spiderman #75, was pretty much a cover-to-cover "OH CRAP" moment for my young and easily impressed mind, but nothing quite matched that moment. "Call me Norman"....

ednemo
02-08-2006, 11:18 PM
Most recent:
(Astonishing X-Men) When Ord turns around and gets a face full of fire, courtesy of Lockheed.

Older:
(Captain America) When Cap chops the head off of Baron Blood with his shield. Only fitting end for a pansy gutter-goth like him.

Maximum_Carnage
02-08-2006, 11:28 PM
Only two times come to mind in recent memory, but they aren't necessarily my favorite comic moments.

A few months back, Captain America #1: Red Skull shoots the Russian version of Captain America (not sure what his name was) in the head with a handgun.

Most recently in House of M #7 I think: Hawkeye shoots Scarlett Witch in the back out of nowhere. Didn't even know he was in the room at the time.

tangentman
02-08-2006, 11:30 PM
She-Hulk replacing the Thing in the Fantastic Four stands out as a positive "OH SHIT" Marvel moment for me.

Guardian's death and Sue's miscarriage stood out that year as true shocks.

The X-Men's murders by the Sentinels in the post-apocalypse of "Days Of Future Past".

Phoenix's suicide in the Blue Area of the moon.

Captain America discovered by the Avengers in issue #4, volume 1.

Mantis knocking Thor unconscious with a single nerve punch! Here was the powerhouse of the Avengers, facing a petite woman who leaps up and hits him with in just the right spot to put him down for the count! Not something you saw often at the time. Then, she did it again less than 12 issues later! :cool:

Scourge's murders; you didn't know which B, C, and D-list villains were safe that year!

Warbird's alcoholism revealed and the subsequent court-martial.

Spider-Woman foiling Wolverine's ambush, tossing him on his butt, and stabbing him in the neck with his own claws! A golden scene for Wolverine haters and/or Spider-Woman lovers! :D

Taskmaster
02-09-2006, 12:53 AM
the reveal of the Thunderbolts at the end of issue #1

Ivan Isaacs
02-09-2006, 02:30 AM
(not sure what his name was)

Red Guardian

Scourge's murders; you didn't know which B, C, and D-list villains were safe that year!

Ah, this reminds me of the Sin-Eater.
Captain Jean DeWolffe's death and later, when Stan was aiming at the cops with an empty gun just to be killed.

Another masterpiece was "Spectacular Spider-Man #118" were this little kids with superpowers was killed by SHIELD agents after he accidentally killed his dad.

Uncensored
02-09-2006, 03:24 AM
The first time I saw the "F word" in a Marvel comic book (Alias #1), I was pretty surprised.

DDM
02-09-2006, 08:13 AM
When Susan Storm Richards said an expletive in The Fantastic Four. I wrote a negative letter about it to Marvel saying Susan Richards does not curse like a sailor under any circumstance.

DDM
02-09-2006, 08:15 AM
Phoenix's dramatic, unexpected transformation into Dark Phoenix from Uncanny X-Men #134:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.134.GIF

streator
02-09-2006, 08:23 AM
xorn revealed to be magneto (new x-men 146) was the last big surprise for me, i think. even though it's been retconned.

dingo
02-09-2006, 09:41 AM
When Susan Storm Richards said an expletive in The Fantastic Four. I wrote a negative letter about it to Marvel saying Susan Richards does not curse like a sailor under any circumstance.


Are you refering to when she said "knock Doom on his ass" (or something similar)?

If so, why? It is a perfectly reasonable thing for someone to say and i was suprised it caused a reaction. She is an adult. If not, what where you refering to?

DDM
02-09-2006, 12:46 PM
Are you refering to when she said "knock Doom on his ass" (or something similar)?

If so, why? It is a perfectly reasonable thing for someone to say and i was suprised it caused a reaction. She is an adult. If not, what where you refering to?

Susan Storm has been through a lot in her years as part of the Fantastic Four. Suddenly to start cursing is wrong for her character. I just think it ruined her for me. Yes, she has a temper & she is an adult. All the more reason why she should not have said any expletives in the first place because she is an adult.

The Lucky One
02-09-2006, 01:45 PM
xorn revealed to be magneto (new x-men 146) was the last big surprise for me, i think. even though it's been retconned.

While I fall only in the mid-ground on Grant's X-Men -- liked parts of it, didn't either love or despise it -- I'll wholeheartedly agree with that. I was one of those three guys who weren't spoiled on it ahead of time, and it knocked my socks off. Sweet.

The first time I saw the "F word" in a Marvel comic book (Alias #1), I was pretty surprised.

Never read it, but wasn't that issue also the first instance of anal sex being depicted in a Marvel comic? Now that's what I'd categorize as an "OH CRAP" moment, no pun intended.

-D

ultimatespyder20
02-09-2006, 01:59 PM
Mine OH CRAP moment was in Ultimate Spider-man #85 when we see Captin Jean DeWolfe was with the Kingpin the whole time. I like threw the book across the room.

My second was in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man #3 when Spidey died.

Hulk_Is
02-09-2006, 04:59 PM
I'd say in New Avengers when Spider Woman almost killed Captain freakin' America ! And, when the U-Foes Vector burned a massive amount of the Hulk's flesh off and the Hulk took it and still smashed 'im ! Good times.

Steffen
02-09-2006, 07:13 PM
Mine would be 2 moments in the Kraven's Last Hunt storyline. The first when Kraven shot Spidey point blank in the chest, seemingly "killing" him. The second was Kraven's suicide. I never thought Marvel had the guts to show a major character offing himself like that.

overcomebyfumes
02-09-2006, 08:35 PM
The death of the Red Skull in Brubakers Captain America #1. Not what I was expecting at all... and then the reveal in #14 (I won't spoil it for any who haven't read it.)

Capt USA
02-09-2006, 08:49 PM
Spidey beating the tar out of wolvie, including plowing him through headstones, then being tricked into killing wolverines girlfriend in Wolverine vs Spiderman.

Cap chopping off baron bloods head.

Captain Marvel actually dying.

The first Scourge kill.(maybe not first, but first I remember Death Adder)

The Masters of Evil beating up Jarvis.

I believe Eddie Brock showing up for dinner at Aunt Mays house.

(greatest oh crap moment of all time was either Watchmen or animal man when he sees his wife dead--it later got retconned)


I know I'm missing a lot of course but age sapps the memory

Hi-Fi
02-09-2006, 09:09 PM
When Green Lantern finds his girfriend dead inside the fridge.

Ops, that's DC....

moebius
02-09-2006, 09:36 PM
Since Powers is Marvel now...the last issue of Powers is a great build up to completely changing the dynamic of the series. Deena Pilgrim probably murdering a major villain early in the series was also a great Oh Crap moment.

Just about all of "E for Extinction."

I'd also have to say that both Colossus' suicide and ressurrection were complete surprises.

"Wait...did they just kill Colossus?"

jcp011c
02-09-2006, 11:06 PM
I don't read anything besides X-Men and Avengers related, so I'm sure there is more out of there than this, but here's my top 5 (6 by default I suppose)
5. Uncanny X-Men #390, the death of Colossus.
4. West Coast Avengers #100, when Mockingbird is killed.
3. Magneto returning at the end of Exacalibur (v.3) #1. While creating probably the most headache-ridden situation that no amount of retcons can ever explain, that is none the less a page that I had to set the comic down and really think about (I didn't hurt that I had to set the comic down because I was at the end of the issue!)
2. Avengers The Crossing, can't remember the specific issue but when the murderer of several minor characters is revealed to be Tony Stark.
1. Xavier being revealed to be Onslaught in X-Men #54. Okay, the entire crossover was actually crap in a bad way, but that reveal was "oh crap" in an entirely unforseen way. Tied with this is X-Men/Onslaught opening when you find out that the tape of Jean Grey reporting the X-men's "demise" that Bishop had seen in the future is actually being recorded at that moment.

chicainery
02-09-2006, 11:39 PM
Mmmh...

I was amazed when, in the first Secret Wars series, Doctor Doom went after the Beyonder's power and actually managed to steal it all for himself, after being literally torn to pieces. We had been told for almost a year how the Beyonder was on a God-Almighty level of power, and Doomsie showed an amazing amount of chutzpah in attempting what was almost certain suicide.


Absolutely. I used to read Secret Wars quite a lot when I was younger because of Dr. Doom.


http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/72795747460.10.GIF

jaguarshark
02-10-2006, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by Capt USA
(greatest oh crap moment of all time was either Watchmen or animal man when he sees his wife dead--it later got retconned)
To get off-topic for a minute, which moment in Watchmen exactly? There's probably a bunch I'm forgetting, but mine would have to be the capture and unmasking of Rorschach, the entire Dr. Manhattan flashback issue, or, of course, "I did it 35 minutes ago."
As far as Marvel moments, reading back over this thread... wow, there have been a lot, haven't there? I still stand by the resurrection of Norman Osborn :o

Capt USA
02-10-2006, 07:27 AM
To get off-topic for a minute, which moment in Watchmen exactly? There's probably a bunch I'm forgetting, but mine would have to be the capture and unmasking of Rorschach, the entire Dr. Manhattan flashback issue, or, of course, "I did it 35 minutes ago."
As far as Marvel moments, reading back over this thread... wow, there have been a lot, haven't there? I still stand by the resurrection of Norman Osborn :o


the reveal of the plan at the end, followed by the death of rorscach. Secret Wars had a couple, Cap getting blasted and returning over and over, Caps shield being destroyed, Spidey pretty much taking on the x-men with his eyes closed(well that wasn't an oh crap, it was just satisfying) and the bolt from the blue.

Jomero
02-10-2006, 01:57 PM
When Magneto ripped out all the adamantium from Wolverine's body. That was awesome put into it's purest form.

But then the writers crapped their pants saying, "Well, how are we going to keep the fans happy? He's just a regular guy with a healing factor and a 'tude." "Oh, I know! Let's say he always had the claws, and they're made of bone! Even though they have nothing to do with his actual mutant power!" "Brilliant!"

More like "extremely lame." But hey, people accepted it. And even liked it. I was definitely not one of them.

I used to like Wolverine. But then I graduated from Junior High. ;)

DDM
02-10-2006, 02:35 PM
Magneto kills Zaladane in cold blood as a tearful, crying Rogue pleads with Magnus not to leave the X-Men as he renounces his ties to Xavier's school--the X-Men, the New Mutants--& the Hellfire Club from Uncanny X-Men #275:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.275.GIF

Roquefort Raider
02-10-2006, 02:46 PM
But then the writers crapped their pants saying, "Well, how are we going to keep the fans happy? He's just a regular guy with a healing factor and a 'tude." "Oh, I know! Let's say he always had the claws, and they're made of bone! Even though they have nothing to do with his actual mutant power!" "Brilliant!"


Although I agree that the idea of Wolvie's claws being "natural" and not added with the metal is pretty lame, I should mention that it had been around since the Weapon X miniseries. Wolvie apparently "grew" his claws in reaction to what was being done to him while he percolated in his tank. Marvel also tried to tie them to his mutant power!

Because, you know, since an immune system is supposed to defend someone against bugs, perhaps a super immune system would also defend someone against more macroscopic threats, for example by allowing big claws to grow from someone's radius and ulna.

As you said... "Brilliant!"

Jagernaut
02-10-2006, 05:04 PM
New Avengers

Sentry ripping Carnage in half like he was a piece of bread. Keep in mind I had JUST read Mamimum Carnage in it's entirety a week before.

KhorneBloodGod
02-10-2006, 05:11 PM
Secret Wars

"The Beyonder is dead. Now, the most powerful being in the universe is...

DOOM!"

webcrawler81
02-12-2006, 06:44 PM
The Hulk tearing Wolvie in half in Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk.

Forefinger
02-13-2006, 11:46 AM
When Frank cut that guys intestines out and hung them from the tree, while he was still alive! He did that to get him to talk.

G. Wayne
02-13-2006, 12:38 PM
Off the top of my head.

Yeah, I know the whole thing was kinda crappy, but there were two moments I'll always remember fondly from a recent crossover.

When classic Juggernaut was shown unconscious in a crater in like New York in one of the X-Men books. Comes to, and says he should be in northern Canada. Then he reveals the last thing he remembers was being punched by this guy calling himself Onslaught.

During the big fight, and Hulk asks Jean Grey to shut off Banner. She does, and Hulk proceeds to go ape$&%# on Onslaught.

In Supreme Power, Hyperion's seismic blast warning note to the government

Ultimate Gwen Stacy's death

I didn't really read it, but I overheard a summary of the lead in to Planet Hulk. Nick Fury sends the Hulk into space to destroy a super-satellite. The Illuminati; Professor X, Namor, Tony Stark, Doctor Strange, Black Bolt and Mister Fantastic take the oppurtunity to redirect the Hulk's return ship to a ne planet filled with vegetation and game, but no civilzation. This is so Bruce can live in peace and never harm anyone again. This message plays on a monitor in Hulk's ship. He knows what they did. But the ship get's re-directed to an advanced alien planet with gladiatorial games, as well as the new Death's Head.

Yeah, that's all well and good, but it's REALLY gonna hit the fan when he get's BACK. :D

LordEd1976
02-13-2006, 02:15 PM
Doom going Godzilla-size and looming over the heroes at the end of #10 of Secret Wars 1.

Starhawk outing korvac to the Avengers by revealing he can't see who everyone is talking to.

Thanos wiping out half of the universe by snapping his fingers

John Walker as Captain America leaving his former friends to die in an explosion.

Spider-Man and Daredevil finding the crosses that contain the bodies of the Avengers and Fanstastic Four in The End.

divinebrown
02-14-2006, 01:27 PM
At the end of "The Golden Age" arc in Daredevil when the original kingpin (before Wilson Fisk) is beating to the death a chained Murdock. The guy is high on MGH and sweating profusely before he collapses. DD: "Your heart just exploded. Die."
And a million other things in Bendis/ Maleev DD.

The ending of Ultimates 2 #9.

All of the Punisher: The Cell one-shot.

icctrombone
02-14-2006, 07:52 PM
Thw Wasp saying she's going to marry Yellowjacket after he said that he killed hank pym ( way back in avengers # 59).

Crystal found "nursing " Quicksilver to health after The Torch went throught heck to find her .

Adam Warlock dieing as was foretold at the end of the Thanos avengers clash.

Dr. light raping sue .

meethraa
02-14-2006, 08:00 PM
Early issue of Milligan/Allred X-Force, when the main character died.
That was unexpected.

Beamish
02-14-2006, 10:35 PM
Vision and Scarlet Witch mini. Magneto reveals that he's Wanda ad Pietro's daddy.

1st Daredevil run, during Onslaught. Black Widow, during her "avenge the Avengers" kick, coldly shoots DD in the chest when he confronts her.

Avengers, pre-Disassembled. A very small Hank Pym emerges from a full grown Wasp when they were in Vegas and declares "it's your turn now," or something like that.

Thunderbolts Annual. Hellcat is rescued from hell, not Mockingbird as expected.

Lord_Archive
02-15-2006, 12:17 AM
Saw a bunch of these moments in the 2099 universe after two years.

In no particular order:

1. Venom 2099. They had a perfectly good twisted version of the character called Flipside and they just HAD to bring this overused plotblob into the mix.

2. Venom 2099 turning out to be Kron Stone. What were they trying to say here? That Tyler Stone had another son named Kron whose ashes he flushed down the toilet in Spider-man 2099 #1?

3. Tyler Stone turning out to be Miguel O'hara's illegitimate father.

4. Marvel editors changing their mind and making Goblin 2099 Miguel's brother, Gabe, instead of the original candidate, Father Jennifer.

5. Killing off Miguel O'Hara's fiancee.

6. Doom 2099 taking over North America.

7. Allowing Ashley Woods to draw for Doom 2099 in the waning issues.

8. Killing off everybody in Hulk 2099 right before the series was cancelled.

9. The elimination of the entire GR2099 crew after #12. The hacks that replaced them were terrible. It took me months to figure out that L/cypher was supposed to be a play on Lucifer (they couldn't have created a better name?).

10. The killing of Serpentina in the third issue of X-men 2099.

11. The killing and resurrection of Skullfire in X-men 2099.

12. Apocalypse 2099 (where they killed off the Hulk, The Punisher, Metalscream, and Galahad)

13. Genesis 2099 - a pitiful attempt to introduce a Daredevil 2099.

14. The flooding of the earth and relocating all superheroes to the Savage Land for a few final issues of nothingness.

15. The Spider-Man 2099/Spider-Man crossover. Hands down the most useless excuse for a plotline since the Marvel/Top Cow crossover Devil's Reign.

sherlockbones
02-15-2006, 03:02 AM
Iron Man dying in a nuclar blast. I really thought they killed him but he was later seen rolling around

Uncensored
02-15-2006, 03:56 AM
Never read it, but wasn't that issue also the first instance of anal sex being depicted in a Marvel comic? Now that's what I'd categorize as an "OH CRAP" moment, no pun intended.

It's not really explicit; all we see is Jessica saying she wanted to "Feel something different", then an image of her laying on her stomach, in bed with Luke Cage, with a look of pain on her face.

Tequilamokinbrd
02-15-2006, 05:04 AM
Hands down, when Spider-Man's parents who had seemingly never died after all and came back into his life were revealed to be shape-shifting robots working for the Chemeleon.



Now granted, it's not the kind of "oh crap" moment that everyone is imagining, but I was really suprised, suprised that Marvel would insult my intellegence with a story like that. I couldn't believe how stupid it was, I was just totally stunned.



There was a part in the Maximum Carnage storyline where Peter's "dad" seemed to kind of lose it a little, and I thought it would have been awesome if his parents were jerks or maybe didn't exactly see eye to eye with him in terms of justice or the law. Maybe not even evil, but like if they believed that people like carnage should be flat out murdered, like a Punisher-type mentality or something, something that would make peter think and perhaps even affect how he performs as spider-man.


It's like, "my god my parents are alive and I'm happy for that, but what they were in my heads all these years isn't exactly who they are"





But we never got that.




We got shape-shifting evil purple robots.




And I said, "Oh Crap."

Crimson
02-15-2006, 05:47 AM
It's not really explicit; all we see is Jessica saying she wanted to "Feel something different", then an image of her laying on her stomach, in bed with Luke Cage, with a look of pain on her face.

Anyone have a scan of the page or two this appeared?

Everyone makes it out like it's huge deal but it also seems alot of people haven't seen it from themselves and are going on hearsay.