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venomslash
02-07-2006, 11:12 PM
out of all the marvel characters who do you think is the worst or least popular character marvel has made

venomslash
02-07-2006, 11:14 PM
i say slapstick. i have 1 comic card of him. ive looked up they hardly made any comics of him. and he doesnt look like a character with any powers or nothing. he looks like some guy off of cartoon network or something.

Jake V
02-07-2006, 11:14 PM
Venom.

Or Forbush Man.


No, probably Venom.

tangentman
02-07-2006, 11:15 PM
Deathcry, anyone?

venomslash
02-07-2006, 11:16 PM
Venom.

Or Forbush Man.


No, probably Venom. your so funny

StoneGold
02-07-2006, 11:17 PM
Paul Jenkins. Jenkins gets no love. All he does is faint.

Capt USA
02-07-2006, 11:45 PM
worse character ever made? (who has had some popularity) easily Carnage.

Least popular? Cyclops. (maybe not least popular, and arguably falls into worse category) but least popular of all the characters who has appeared in over 100 issues of comics. I have rarely met a person who is a fan of his (actually my best friend in the military was a big fan, but beyond that I don't know anybody that thinks "Scott is cool")

Nick Kal
02-08-2006, 12:13 AM
worse character ever made? (who has had some popularity) easily Carnage.

Least popular? Cyclops. (maybe not least popular, and arguably falls into worse category) but least popular of all the characters who has appeared in over 100 issues of comics. I have rarely met a person who is a fan of his (actually my best friend in the military was a big fan, but beyond that I don't know anybody that thinks "Scott is cool")

A lot of people...

Ikaris
02-08-2006, 12:30 AM
Wolverine ;-)

milhouse123321
02-08-2006, 12:40 AM
Speedball!!!

Beast
02-08-2006, 12:48 AM
Xorn II. :)

StoneGold
02-08-2006, 12:53 AM
Truth is, least popular character would be one that 99% of even readers would have no idea who it is.


Woodgod?

Sharcque
02-08-2006, 01:22 AM
Truth is, least popular character would be one that 99% of even readers would have no idea who it is.


Woodgod?
I like Woodgod! I loved the Hulk story he and his clan were in...

Maximum_Carnage
02-08-2006, 01:23 AM
worse character ever made? (who has had some popularity) easily Carnage.



Ahem...

The ultimate insanity is much better than multiple, multiple villains thrown out there, across all names and universes.

Why do people hate him so much?? Is it the way he talks? Well get someone from today's Marvel to do him right! I agree, the way he was used back when just utterly sucked. But c'mon, the way comics were written sucked anyway.

I know that was a huge blow to many people, but do this. Read very recent comics like New Avengers or Amazing Spider-Man, and then go read something from the 80's or 90's. Do we really need a play-by-play on every turn they make? Are we too stupid to guess at what the transition from panel to panel was, or what the hell they're doing in this panel or that? They all talk to themselves out loud too much as well. Comics of today are so much better, let alone better drawn (for the most part).

Have someone who knows what they're doing use Carnage correctly, and you will see how great he is. Damn Bendis killed him though so whatever. The symbiote will survive and fall back to Earth, reform, and desire the insanity of Kassidy again, and end up finding someone even more psychotic, and then you will see. You will all see! *Maniacal laugh* ALL OF YOU *deep voice and rage* CARNAGE IS THE ULTIMATE INSANITY! LIVE WITH IT!

Ahem...sorry.

Carnage Rules. :)

As for least popular character...I'm going to guess that is impossible to answer. For a character to be the least popular, then no one must no about them, and if no one knows about them, how can we answer the question? :p

As for worst character? Hmm. As far as Spider-Man's world goes, probably The Spectacular Spider-Kid.

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,spiderman_amazing,263.jpg

tkitna
02-08-2006, 03:12 AM
I thought Omega and Machine Man were pretty bad.

The Fury
02-08-2006, 03:20 AM
I thought ... Machine Man were pretty bad.
Some of us like him.


X-23. :D

milhouse123321
02-08-2006, 03:36 AM
Yeah Machine Man rocks

Bashful Benjamin
02-08-2006, 04:10 AM
Bendis :D

Rich L
02-08-2006, 04:13 AM
Speedball!!!

You take that back!

Tragix
02-08-2006, 05:09 AM
Avengers: Gilgamesh

others: Sleepwalker

streator
02-08-2006, 07:46 AM
nightwatch
annex
other crap 90's characters most don't remember/haven't been used since

Ryan K
02-08-2006, 07:55 AM
What was the year all the annuals introduced a new character (and you got a shiny collectable card with the character too)? All the characters were really . . . 90's-esque with names that usually just combined two kewl nouns like Deathblade or Blood Tempest or something like that.

One of those characters wins.

Neolucifer
02-08-2006, 07:56 AM
Carnage is quite bad , but popular so its a no ..
Imo the worst are easily in the X series : Marrow and Maggot .

About the least popular i agree about , Woodgod and Gilgamesh .
To that i'll add Dr Druid , Cardiac , Zuras (leader of the Earth eternals) ,Yellow Claw(some kind of cyborg fu manchu) , Kubik (yet only less powerful than the Living Tribunal and Eternity) , and Porcupine (once member of the batroc brigad) ..

I could probably dig up worse , but for that you'd need to remember them :p

Rahul
02-08-2006, 08:11 AM
I thought Machine Man was pretty bad.


But...but....he can organize sock drawers! :D

Chiasm
02-08-2006, 08:30 AM
Its gotta be a Liefeld character.

GreatLakesAvengers
02-08-2006, 09:12 AM
i'm gonna second Annex ... and some more of those forgettable characters created during that whole polybag Annual event in '93 or '94.


and hey! lay off Aaron [Machine Man] ... he's great in the Earth X trilogy

Michael P
02-08-2006, 09:20 AM
What was the year all the annuals introduced a new character (and you got a shiny collectable card with the character too)? All the characters were really . . . 90's-esque with names that usually just combined two kewl nouns like Deathblade or Blood Tempest or something like that.

One of those characters wins.
1993. God, I wish my Class Reunion thread hadn't been lost during Zero Hour.

Hi-Fi
02-08-2006, 09:21 AM
Nurse Annie.

90'sCartoonMan
02-08-2006, 09:24 AM
nightwatch
annex
other crap 90's characters most don't remember/haven't been used since

I once tried to remember what Nightwatch looked like, and I couldn't picture anything other than Spawn.

Speedball?! If we're talking New Warriors, it has to go to Hindsight Lad...EASILY! He had side-view mirrors on his costume!

My friend was once trying to find the mutant with the lamest power, and he came up with Beak.

DJ Rustbucket
02-08-2006, 09:26 AM
Paul Jenkins. Jenkins gets no love. All he does is faint.
And go to AA meetings (check Generation M #2...or #3...I forget which).

Michael P
02-08-2006, 09:28 AM
I once tried to remember what Nightwatch looked like, and I couldn't picture anything other than Spawn.

There's a good reason for that.

http://www.newsarama.com/quarterbin/Nightwatch1.jpg

BlaqueBolt
02-08-2006, 09:29 AM
Hawkeye before he died

DJ Rustbucket
02-08-2006, 09:30 AM
Obnoxio the Clown.

If you're thinking "Who?", then I automatically win.

Ryan K
02-08-2006, 09:35 AM
My friend was once trying to find the mutant with the lamest power, and he came up with Beak.

This gets discussed on the X-Men board all the time. If you want to consider them "powers", then yeah Beak and any other mutant who's sole mutantion is just physical deformity definately get crowned.

If you don't want to consider those "powers" per se than you have characters like Paint (who could manipulate flesh tones - change skin color, or give tatoos) or Tar Baby (who could make his skin sticky). There's plenty a lot like that.

DrthTater
02-08-2006, 09:47 AM
The White Rabbit

abyss
02-08-2006, 09:50 AM
im gonna second nurse Anne

BoosterBronze
02-08-2006, 12:44 PM
I never understood the appeal of some characters, no matter how well written, the best example being Machine Man. Jack Kirby is the man, but I just don't get Machine Man. Or Man-Thing for that matter, though I'm not saying the character or any of the artists on it weren't good.

But I'll toss my hat in for Nightwatch sucking. Just plain sucked.

I know there's a lot of Maggot hate, but I thought he was cool, with the cookiest mutant power up to that time.

venomslash
02-08-2006, 12:57 PM
i say jubilee is also one of the stupidest characters mavel has made. that chineese brat doesnt do jack. just get in the way of the xmen when there fighting.

Wannabe
02-08-2006, 01:03 PM
This is easy. Definitly either of Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborns kids. The Grey Goblin, I believe it was. I'm yet to meet somebody that likes them.

DDM
02-08-2006, 01:08 PM
Stacey X
Marrow
Xorn II
Nurse Annie

Deathcry
Swordsman II (from an alternate Earth)

Wolverine

DDM
02-08-2006, 01:09 PM
i say jubilee is also one of the stupidest characters mavel has made. that chineese brat doesnt do jack. just get in the way of the xmen when there fighting.

She's a 14 year old orphan. What do you expect? I believe Claremont had long term plans for Jubilee in Uncanny X-Men, but we'll never know since he did not get a chance to develop her.

venomslash
02-08-2006, 01:13 PM
Stacey X
Marrow
Xorn II
Nurse Annie

Deathcry
Swordsman II (from an alternate Earth)

Wolverine wolverine ? are you insanse or something? hes the xmens best fighter and one of the best in marvel. hes cool

DDM
02-08-2006, 01:25 PM
wolverine ? are you insanse or something? hes the xmens best fighter and one of the best in marvel. hes cool

He's an overexposed caricature of himself thanks to Marvel placing him in virtually every book for 5 years. Therefore, he's on my list. Wolverine was cool when one writer wrote him & fulfilled his vision for the character. When several writers use him at once, you get nothing but filler killer fluff wrapped in comic book cliches. Wolverine is a joke.

GreatLakesAvengers
02-08-2006, 01:26 PM
The appeal of books like Machine Man and Man-Thing isn't always just the character but, the kind of insight the writer can provide us on humanity as it interacts with these beings.

I second your fondness for Maggot ... I always liked the character. And, he was certainly a unique one, at that.

I never understood the appeal of some characters, no matter how well written, the best example being Machine Man. Jack Kirby is the man, but I just don't get Machine Man. Or Man-Thing for that matter, though I'm not saying the character or any of the artists on it weren't good.

But I'll toss my hat in for Nightwatch sucking. Just plain sucked.

I know there's a lot of Maggot hate, but I thought he was cool, with the cookiest mutant power up to that time.

devil_may_care
02-08-2006, 02:35 PM
The White Rabbit is popular to me.

I submit Banjo...."he hates to be picked on!"

Siddon
02-08-2006, 05:34 PM
The Good Green Goblin

Mideon
02-08-2006, 05:46 PM
nightwatch
annex
other crap 90's characters most don't remember/haven't been used since

Solo
Chance
Cardiac
Grim Hunter
Master of Vengeance

Flight
02-08-2006, 05:53 PM
Nurse Annie.

Young Avenger
02-08-2006, 05:56 PM
NFL Super Pro

Hi-Fi
02-08-2006, 05:56 PM
Nurse Annie.

I said the same thing! :eek:

Citizen V
02-08-2006, 06:28 PM
I would have to say The Sentry.Marvel is filled with rather powerful heros and villians,for the idea of a Superman in the MU is nearly unthinkable.He mocks Superman in nearly every respect.

venomslash
02-08-2006, 07:24 PM
He's an overexposed caricature of himself thanks to Marvel placing him in virtually every book for 5 years. Therefore, he's on my list. Wolverine was cool when one writer wrote him & fulfilled his vision for the character. When several writers use him at once, you get nothing but filler killer fluff wrapped in comic book cliches. Wolverine is a joke. they put him in every comic book for 5 years cause everyone enjoyed having him in a comic book and they still do. hes on 2 comic book series now. not just xmen anymore.

Taskmaster
02-08-2006, 08:59 PM
Wraith from the Eve of Destruction X-Men, he had nothing going for him except see through skin and now he's probably human as of M-Day

Taskmaster
02-08-2006, 09:03 PM
This gets discussed on the X-Men board all the time. If you want to consider them "powers", then yeah Beak and any other mutant who's sole mutantion is just physical deformity definately get crowned.

If you don't want to consider those "powers" per se than you have characters like Paint (who could manipulate flesh tones - change skin color, or give tatoos) or Tar Baby (who could make his skin sticky). There's plenty a lot like that.

Check out my choice for lame characters for an example of one of the cruddiest powers. He looked like and could make people see themsevles as Slim Goodbody

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/06/347a.jpg/180px-347a.jpg

ednemo
02-08-2006, 09:09 PM
Solo
Chance
Cardiac
Grim Hunter
Master of Vengeance

Hey! I liked Solo! Of all the useful abilities for a gun toting anti-hero, teleportation is the best!!

The rest suck though.

90'sCartoonMan
02-08-2006, 09:23 PM
There's a good reason for that.

http://www.newsarama.com/quarterbin/Nightwatch1.jpg

Heh, I actually own that comic. I also have the one (Spider-Man Unlimited?) where he dies.

This gets discussed on the X-Men board all the time. If you want to consider them "powers", then yeah Beak and any other mutant who's sole mutantion is just physical deformity definately get crowned.

If you don't want to consider those "powers" per se than you have characters like Paint (who could manipulate flesh tones - change skin color, or give tatoos) or Tar Baby (who could make his skin sticky). There's plenty a lot like that.

Personally, I like Beak, but due to his powers and appearance, he doesn't have much drawn to an outsider, who would immediatley think he's lame. Although Paint sounds REAL lame.

Ikaris
02-09-2006, 12:54 AM
they put him in every comic book for 5 years cause everyone enjoyed having him in a comic book and they still do. hes on 2 comic book series now. not just xmen anymore.

Well I loved Wolverine 15 years ago... I got real sick of him being everywhere and do not care much for him now. In fact, I try to avoid books featuring Wolverine and I know a couple of other guys who feels the same way.

In order for at character to be the MOST unpopular one, the character has to be known to a lot of people. I am not saying Wolverine is the most unpopular, but he is on my list :-)

Faded
02-09-2006, 01:18 AM
I honestly don't know. Everytime I think one is/should be very unpopular, he/she usually garners a lot of fans, while a lot of the ones I find underrated get no love.

steven
02-09-2006, 04:16 AM
worse character ever made? (who has had some popularity) easily Carnage.

Least popular? Cyclops. (maybe not least popular, and arguably falls into worse category) but least popular of all the characters who has appeared in over 100 issues of comics. I have rarely met a person who is a fan of his (actually my best friend in the military was a big fan, but beyond that I don't know anybody that thinks "Scott is cool")

i love cyclops(or did) as with alot of the xmen characters i havnt liked them so much recently. he is clearly the best option to be the team leader

i also quite like carnage!! :eek:


alot of people i know don't seem to like quicksilver.....but don't know why!! :confused:

Agentum
02-09-2006, 04:45 AM
A lot of people...
I do, he (Cyclops) often was the voice of reason when the other x-men was just playing around acting like children.
But i guess such things changes over time.


Sleepwalker was a pretty stupid creation and not very popular.

Agentum
02-09-2006, 04:51 AM
What was the year all the annuals introduced a new character (and you got a shiny collectable card with the character too)? All the characters were really . . . 90's-esque with names that usually just combined two kewl nouns like Deathblade or Blood Tempest or something like that.

One of those characters wins.
DC had something like that.
Blood.....something, all characters was bad, but i guess Hitman came out of that and even that Anima was in some comics after that, was the other ones ever seen again?

Capt USA
02-09-2006, 07:54 AM
the problem with carnage, is that marvel created him because they had decided to capitalize on Venoms popularity and make him an 'anti-hero' but they still needed to have a venom type of villain to fight spidey.

the other problem, is the same problem I have with any mass murderer like carnage, in the real world, 18 deaths in a school resonates throughout the country for years, (people still talk about columbine) Killing 8 people in a post office is headline news stuff. Carnage wipes out how many people in maximum carnage? and all of these comics do that, they exceed by 3, 4, 5 times more deaths than any other serial/mass murderer has ever come close to, yet 5 months later, nobody mentions them, and in fact even in other comics when they talk about mass murderers they mention real life names, not these fictional ones that supposedly did tons of damage.

I mean Wolverine in a drunken stupor kills more people on a three day weekend than Ted Bundy has in his entire life.

DDM
02-09-2006, 08:10 AM
Check out my choice for lame characters for an example of one of the cruddiest powers. He looked like and could make people see themsevles as Slim Goodbody

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/06/347a.jpg/180px-347a.jpg

I was just thinking about him the other day.

venomslash
02-09-2006, 04:32 PM
Well I loved Wolverine 15 years ago... I got real sick of him being everywhere and do not care much for him now. In fact, I try to avoid books featuring Wolverine and I know a couple of other guys who feels the same way.

In order for at character to be the MOST unpopular one, the character has to be known to a lot of people. I am not saying Wolverine is the most unpopular, but he is on my list :-) your correct there that hes in many comic books cause many others enjoy him.

Valen
02-09-2006, 05:40 PM
Ravage 2099
NFL Hero
Slapstick
Triathlon
Gilglamesh

Gargus
02-09-2006, 07:03 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ericzorn/weblog/archives/kite-man.jpg

Taskmaster
02-09-2006, 07:07 PM
I was just thinking about him the other day.

He used to scare the hell out of me in elementary school because I thought he was naked

Expletive Deleted
02-09-2006, 07:12 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ericzorn/weblog/archives/kite-man.jpgHe's a DC character.

Taskmaster
02-09-2006, 07:13 PM
He's a DC character.

and named Charlie Brown

GoGo Yubari
02-09-2006, 07:19 PM
As far as characters people would actually remember goes, Nurse Annie is probably the winner. The fact that she's been mentioned multiple times and nobody's defended her (whereas Venom, Carnage, Speedball, Jubes, Machine Man, heck, even the White Rabbit amongst others have been defended) makes it a bit clearer to me.

Pseudodragon
02-09-2006, 07:25 PM
NFL Super Pro

You beat me to it. Seriously, did Marvel think that the NFL license was actually worth something for a comic book superhero or did the NFL somehow think that a comic book was good advertising money?

overcomebyfumes
02-09-2006, 08:25 PM
Wow. I'm shocked no-ones mentioned "Team America". Ran 12 issues from June '82 to May '83. I have issue 11, which was a Ghost Rider cross-over (because I am a Ghost Rider fanatic).

Marvels own super motorcross team - featuring Wolf, Honcho, and RU Reddy.

They also appeared in New Mutants #5 and 6, according to my source of comics info.

...and then they were never, blessedly, never seen again.

Capt USA
02-09-2006, 08:32 PM
Wow. I'm shocked no-ones mentioned "Team America". Ran 12 issues from June '82 to May '83. I have issue 11, which was a Ghost Rider cross-over (because I am a Ghost Rider fanatic).

Marvels own super motorcross team - featuring Wolf, Honcho, and RU Reddy.

They also appeared in New Mutants #5 and 6, according to my source of comics info.

...and then they were never, blessedly, never seen again.

I'm pretty sure they were in marvel premiere also.

fireball87o
02-10-2006, 12:03 AM
Xorn II and the Big Wheel earn big time lame points.

Who is Big Wheel you may ask? Why did I choose him?
Look at the image on this site and decide for yourself.

http://www.samruby.com/Villains/BigWheel/big_wheel.htm

originally i wanted to vote for some hooptie ketchup and mustard villain i remembered, who was some hot dog street vendor who got pissed off and decided to go on a rampage using ketchup and mustard containers as his weapons of choice of course. But now that I think about he was a villain in Batman: TAS, not Marvel (thank God, not that Marvel hasn't had it's share of dumba$$ villians)

CheopisIV
02-10-2006, 06:41 AM
Spitball
...he's a lawyer who's power is spitting...and he accidentally kills himself.

sonofagun
02-10-2006, 07:12 AM
Douglock, I know we found out he was really Warlock (can't remember why he made himself look like Doug), tho is this a bad character, or a bad idea by Marvel

zebop
02-10-2006, 11:38 AM
Maggott

Marrow

Ghost Rider

Brother Voodoo

Strong Guy...when they were handing out sucking he stood in the line twice.

:evilangry

Taskmaster
02-10-2006, 05:08 PM
Maggott

Marrow

Ghost Rider

Brother Voodoo

Strong Guy...when they were handing out sucking he stood in the line twice.

:evilangry


Hey whats up with the hate for Ghost Rider and Brother Voodoo, they both rule when written right (don't let Ennis near Ghost Rider ever again please). And Strong Guy isn't so bad when he's not calling himself Strong Guy

Phrozen
02-10-2006, 06:08 PM
Although Paint sounds REAL lame.

Lame for a superhero certainly. His power has great applications for making money though. Make up artist, temporary tattoos, etc.

GreatLakesAvengers
02-11-2006, 08:15 PM
I'm pretty sure they had a crossover in the Thing, too. Around #27ish, if I recall correctly.

Wow. I'm shocked no-ones mentioned "Team America". Ran 12 issues from June '82 to May '83. I have issue 11, which was a Ghost Rider cross-over (because I am a Ghost Rider fanatic).

Marvels own super motorcross team - featuring Wolf, Honcho, and RU Reddy.

They also appeared in New Mutants #5 and 6, according to my source of comics info.

...and then they were never, blessedly, never seen again.

Redjakk
02-11-2006, 09:07 PM
Cypher.

Worst... concept... ever.
(For a comic character at least)

ednemo
02-11-2006, 09:14 PM
Maggott

Marrow

Ghost Rider

Brother Voodoo

Strong Guy...when they were handing out sucking he stood in the line twice.

:evilangry

I always liked Strong Guy.