Superman fights a Marvel character?

[magnus#1]

anyone know a comicbook where superman gets killed or gets the crap knocked out of him from a marvel character a crossover comic book i guess.

[aeastwic]

anyone know a comicbook where superman gets killed or gets the crap knocked out of him from a marvel character a crossover comic book i guess.

The closest I've seen is JLA/Avengers, however Superman didn't quite get the crap knocked out of him. He fought Thor and eventually won, and then the Avengers all jumped him when he was weak after the fight.

[Huh?]

Maybe one of the Crossover Classics?

[WolverinesSon]

Didn't Hulk knock the dude through a mountain in Marvel Vs. DC?

[Pariah128]

Supermans fought hulk 3 times I think, and won twice. I think one time he even let hulk wail away on him and just took it.

[nuclearman]

I remember in a Wizard mag once they put Thor up against Superman and Thor came out the victor.

Thor flew off leaving Superman unconcious saying something like "a more noble opponent thy hath ere faught"

[dancj]

I remember in a Wizard mag once they put Thor up against Superman and Thor came out the victor.

Thor flew off leaving Superman unconcious saying something like "a more noble opponent thy hath ere faught"

Reason not to buy Wizard #15549

[The Sentry]

Reason not to buy Wizard #15549

Good point, dancj ! :D

[mohammedali]

lol. so true.

[Gernot]

I think Marvel DID severely under-power Superman once.

It was during the DC/Marvel All Access mini-series that no one liked.

I think Marvel was allowed to let Venom beat Superman.

Yech.

[samuraizero]

Has he ever fought the hulk in an cross over or something
who won?

[f. chong rutherford]

Has he ever fought the hulk in an cross over or something
who won?

In comics, the two characters have fought three times in two different comic books. The first two fights were in "Incredible Hulk Vs. Superman #1" published in 1981. The Hulk beat Superman the first time, but in a rematch Superman beat him.

The third fight happened happened in "DC Vs. Marvel #4." The version of the Incredible Hulk is the "smart Hulk" (with Dr. Banner's intellect) and the version of Superman was the recently returned-to-life (with the long mullet hair). In this one, Superman beats the Incredible Hulk. So, it's 2-1 out of 3 match-ups for Superman in the comics.

[Buried Alien]

There was one more occassion during which Superman fought the Hulk...a SUPERMAN/HULK crossover from either the late 1990s or early 2000s. This one had the feel of a DC ELSEWORLDS story, and indeed featured Silver Age incarnations of Superman and the Hulk.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Gernot]

Actually, the Bronze Age Superman met up with Hulk in 1981's Superman/Spider-Man team-up, which had Spider-Man battling Wonder Woman, too. The villians of the story were Dr. Doom and The Parasite.

Superman pretty much won his fight, and Spider-Man pretty much won his.

[Kirayoshi]

There was one more occassion during which Superman fought the Hulk...a SUPERMAN/HULK crossover from either the late 1990s or early 2000s. This one had the feel of a DC ELSEWORLDS story, and indeed featured Silver Age incarnations of Superman and the Hulk.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)I remember that one. It featured very cool art by Steve Rude, contributing to its Silver Age feel. Actually a pretty good read.

[Azrael52]

And then in early 2005, Superman and Hulk tied in a two man sackrace, I believe.

[Bicycle-Repairman]

Technically, Thor could beat Superman. They are evenly matched for strength, but Superman is vulnerable to magic and Thor is equipped with a magic hammer.

The outcome of the fights in Marvel vs. DC were decided by fan votes, not by the writers. This led to some questionable decisions, the worst of them being Wolverine defeating Lobo.

[PatrickG]

Superman is not vulnerable to magic.

His vulnerability is that magic affects him the same way as anything else.

If a spell causes people to explode, it will cause Superman to explode. If it turns people into chickens, it will turn Superman into a chicken.

But a magic punch is no more damaging to Superman than a normal punch.

It's not like a piece of lead turned into gold will bruise him.

[The Scribe]

the worst of them being Wolverine defeating Lobo.

That was one of the most ludicrous fights ever.


It was Superman who used his heat vision to slam The Hulk into a mountain thus ending the fight, in Marvel vs. DC. :D

Here's another Superman/ Hulk fight.
http://heroes.chez-alice.fr/e-herrev/images/svsh2.gif

[Bicycle-Repairman]

Superman is not vulnerable to magic.

His vulnerability is that magic affects him the same way as anything else.

If a spell causes people to explode, it will cause Superman to explode. If it turns people into chickens, it will turn Superman into a chicken.

But a magic punch is no more damaging to Superman than a normal punch.

It's not like a piece of lead turned into gold will bruise him.

I understand your point. What I meant by "vulnerable to magic" is that Superman's near invulnerability offers him no special protection against magic, in contrast to his ability to withstand conventional weaponry, extreme temperatures and pressures, and all terrestrial radiation, diseases, and poisons. In the situation I mentioned, a magic, indestructable hammer that can shoot mystical energy blasts, wielded by someone with strength roughly equal to Superman's, could potentially defeat Superman.

[dancj]

I understand your point. What I meant by "vulnerable to magic" is that Superman's near invulnerability offers him no special protection against magic, in contrast to his ability to withstand conventional weaponry, extreme temperatures and pressures, and all terrestrial radiation, diseases, and poisons. In the situation I mentioned, a magic, indestructable hammer that can shoot mystical energy blasts, wielded by someone with strength roughly equal to Superman's, could potentially defeat Superman.

It's possible. It depends on the nature of the hammer's power. If the blasts are blastss of migiccyiness then yeah Supes would be vulnerable. If the were blasts of some type of physical force that were just magical in origin then he'd be invlunerable to them. For exactly that reason I'd expect him to be invlnerable to being hit by the hammer directly.

It's worth pointing out that this vulnerability to magic is something pretty much every non-magic based superhero has. It's just that they mention it with regard to Superman much more often

[Dark Soul # 7]

The outcome of the fights in Marvel vs. DC were decided by fan votes, not by the writers. This led to some questionable decisions, the worst of them being Wolverine defeating Lobo.Only the last five fights were decided by votes, Storm vs. Wonder Woman Spider-man vs. Superboy Wolverine vs. Lobo Hulk vs. Superman and Batman vs. Captain America.
The first six were decided by the writers.

[WolverinesSon]

Only the last five fights were decided by votes, Storm vs. Wonder Woman Spider-man vs. Superboy Wolverine vs. Lobo Hulk vs. Superman and Batman vs. Captain America.
The first six were decided by the writers.

This might be a lil off topic but, what is your avatar from? Is that from a new cover to one of the Marvel Zombie comics?

[Wannabe]

DC has a rule that states that Superman will never lose to a Marvel character. Even if it was a Kryptonite Sentry on steroids, Superman would win.

[Dark Soul # 7]

This might be a lil off topic but, what is your avatar from? Is that from a new cover to one of the Marvel Zombie comics?Sure is. Found it at the Spider-man board.

[cmndob]

I seem to remember a Perez/ Ron Lim Silver Surfer Superman one shot, but I can't remember if they fought. And yes, Thor lost to Superman, but as Thor says, "Aye, but mayhap thy luck would fail in a re-bout." Ok or something like that. My favorite page of all time was the splash of Mjolner smacking Supes upside the head. Best. Moment. Ever.

[Gernot]

My favorite page of all time was the splash of Mjolner smacking Supes upside the head. Best. Moment. Ever.

It w@s cooler seeing Superm@n st@nding over Thor's unconscious body.

;)

[venomslash]

I think Marvel DID severely under-power Superman once.

It was during the DC/Marvel All Access mini-series that no one liked.

I think Marvel was allowed to let Venom beat Superman.

Yech. my fav comicbook :D DC/Marvel all access #1 venom knocks the crap out of spiderman and superman together.

[Gernot]

How is it @ good story when two heroes together h@ve trouble t@king down @ villi@n the WE@KER hero t@kes down by himself?

If Spider-M@n > Venom > Superm@n > Thor, then isn't

Spider-M@n + Superm@n SUPPOSED to be >Venom?

Doesn't it m@ke sense, then, th@t

Spider-M@n > Thor?

See? Th@t's why the book m@kes no sense.

[Wannabe]

So, uh, Gernot, is your "A" button broken?

[titanfan]

Technically, Thor could beat Superman. They are evenly matched for strength, but Superman is vulnerable to magic and Thor is equipped with a magic hammer.

Yeah probably. I'd guess Superman would win like 52 out of every 100 fights or something like that. I certainly wouldn't have been outraged (like some DC fanboys) if Thor had managed to win. "Upsets" happen in the real world all the time, don't mind them occassionally happening in comics.

DC vs. Marvel is better left alone. Storm vs. Wonder Woman was my favorite. There are ways that Storm could conceivably beat Wonder Woman--but Wonder Woman kicked her in the head. Kicked her in the head! Storm's head should have gone flying off like Pantha's.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

That was one of the most ludicrous fights ever.


It was Superman who used his heat vision to slam The Hulk into a mountain thus ending the fight, in Marvel vs. DC. :D

Here's another Superman/ Hulk fight.
http://heroes.chez-alice.fr/e-herrev/images/svsh2.gif

IIRC, it wasn't a Heat Vision blast, but a straight punch to Hulk's face that sent him flying.