Wonder Woman 225

[GabrielleWP]

I won't spoil the issue incase people have not read it yet. But I will say things are not looking good for Diana.

Sorry that this wasnt the last one. The next issue seems to be just something they tagged on. Hopefully not a crappy way to end this series.


So what did you think?

GWP

[shyguy]

Thought it was pretty boring and depressing, myself, though I've never been a fan of Rucka's run in the first place. The art was very nice, though. I think Cliff Richards is one to watch.

The next issue sounds absolutely dreadful (Wonder Woman's last issue and it's all about Superman? Wtf?), but I'll approach it with an open mind.

[davids]

i pick up my comics every two months so spill the beans! :evilsmile

[Mulett]

I haven't read the latest edition, but the last couple of issues seemed like padding. Most of Wonder Woman's story seems to be getting told in IC, and I think this has really restricted what can be shown in her own comic. A real shame to end a 20-year run in such a down-beat fashion.

[EmmaFrostSlavingFanBoy]

Read the issue and only read the spoken balloons and skip the "thought or narative" blocks and the issue reads must better.

It's just too distracting to have to read both spoken balloons and thought boxes. They really don't jive that well together. I felt that I was reading a bad parody of Jeph Loeb.

The issue comes out much better if you skip the thought boxes.

[longshot7]

I cried.

that whole thing about "I'm gonna go help my friends.... no matter what the outcome" does not bode well.


They won't.......kill Diana, will they?

[Karl J. Barnes]

I cried.

that whole thing about "I'm gonna go help my friends.... no matter what the outcome" does not bode well.


They won't.......kill Diana, will they?

That is ONE rumor floating around, but if they do; it won't stay that way for long.

I thought that the issue was okay, but you do see the series running out of steam. Hopefully, the re-vamped series will get the juices flowing.

[Guts/Batman]

Disliked this issue.

I have been underwhelmed by Rcuka's IC work, this was no exception. Though it kept me saying "She's sooooooooooooooooooo dead." throughout it.

[Black Atom]

I agree about the narrative captions. They got old about 2 issues ago, for me. Overall, this was a dreafully boring issue.

[milly3cat]

Wonder Woman is having a rest for a couple of months. In the solicits anyway.

[davids]

so what happened? :mad:

[Guts/Batman]

so what happened? :mad:

Don't you get it?

Nothing happened. There is no action in this issue. This is the gods telling Diana they are leaving and leaving her by herself, and Diana telling the Hague to put those murder charages where they can stick them by going off to help her "friends" fight the crisis.

This is one of those issues where the characters talk. This is one of those issues where spoilers don't give justice to what happened in it.

[davids]

I FEEL SO......SO......USED! Well one more issue to go! WW telling the hauge to shove it might explain the cover of the last issue with Diana surronded by troops. [come to capture or kill her?] :confused:

[shaxper]

I thought the writing and characterization were very powerful. I agree about the narrative boxes getting confusing (I had to re-read a few sections), but I really like what they're doing with Wonder Woman. For the first time, they're really showing what makes her a unique hero (other than the fact that she manages to keep her top from falling down). Batman and Superman have had real characterization treatment for years now. WW's finally getting her turn.

My one point of confusion is that they're trying to make her so heroic and perfect while the world judges and misunderstands her for killing Maxwell Lord, but I still don't see how that death was justifiable or warrented. She could have just knocked him out, accumulated evidence from the crime scene, and delivered him to the authorities (or the JLA if she was afraid they wouldn't believe her) with the understanding that he needed to be sedated at all times. Surely twisting his neck wasn't the only option available to her. If she's really the wonderful hero they're painting her to be in these last few issues, shouldn't she own up to that? Shouldn't she be bothered by it? I'd at least like to hear more about why she felt she had to do it.

[shyguy]

I'd at least like to hear more about why she felt she had to do it.

Diana's killing of Max is consistant with the criteria that Rucka set up for Diana killing throughout his run, particularly in her fight with Medusa. Basically, Diana kills if the potential harm caused by her opponent is such that if he/she weren't killed, he/she could potentially slaughter or at least endanger huge numbers of people before anyone could do anything about it.

Had she let Medusa live, Medusa could have had Circe or someone do that television trick and turned millions of people to stone forever before Diana even knew what was going on.

With Max, Diana wasn't really sure how his powers worked except that he could have regained control of Superman at any time he wanted to (her lasso didn't keep him from controling Supes) and had him do god knows what before anyone knew to stop him, and that's if they could stop him. Max wanted to take out metahumans, and Superman could singlehandedly get rid of almost every metahuman on earth in about five minutes before anyone even bothered to sound the JLA alarm. For that matter, he could have had Superman commit suicide.

As Max himself said, to knock him out is a temporary solution. Plus, I'm sure Diana is aware of the fact that no villain in the history of the DC Universe has ever been successfully incarcerated for any significant length of time. Someone at some point was going to free him (especially someone as well-connected as Max), and that wasn't a chance she was willing to take.

I'm glad that Diana hasn't shown much remorse for killing Max. I think the choice was obvious to her (she didn't even flinch) and comes as a result of her Amazon upbringing. I think that where she differs from other Amazons was shown adequately when she refused to kill the OMACs. Diana is pragmatic to an extent, but the OMAC attack was just a case of trading innocent lives for innocent lives.

[shaxper]

Good answer. You've sold me on it.

[mgs]

I thought the writing and characterization were very powerful. I agree about the narrative boxes getting confusing (I had to re-read a few sections), but I really like what they're doing with Wonder Woman. For the first time, they're really showing what makes her a unique hero (other than the fact that she manages to keep her top from falling down). Batman and Superman have had real characterization treatment for years now. WW's finally getting her turn.

i definitely agree.

My one point of confusion is that they're trying to make her so heroic and perfect while the world judges and misunderstands her for killing Maxwell Lord, but I still don't see how that death was justifiable or warrented. She could have just knocked him out, accumulated evidence from the crime scene, and delivered him to the authorities (or the JLA if she was afraid they wouldn't believe her) with the understanding that he needed to be sedated at all times. Surely twisting his neck wasn't the only option available to her. If she's really the wonderful hero they're painting her to be in these last few issues, shouldn't she own up to that? Shouldn't she be bothered by it? I'd at least like to hear more about why she felt she had to do it.
i also agree with the answer shyguy provided.

very good issue.

[Calamas]

I give the issue an “okay.” I like a lot of what happened, but agree that the captions were a problem. It worked when the narrative coincided with the actions before us, and didn’t when it was at odds. It didn’t help, personally, that I had read Adventures of Superman right before, where Rucka used the same technique, this time disguised as Lois Lane’s newspaper story from Blüdhaven. In both cases it was tedious and made for heavier going than the story being told required.

OTOH, this read like a final issue--and probably should have been. I fear what awaits next month.

[Tennoarashi]

This issue was so bitterweet for me; plus I started to cry when the story switched back to the embassy.

Awesome. I'm so sad.

[bosshog7169]

Rucka keeps getting better and better. This issue really does a good job of showing precisely what makes Wonder Woman a hero. The narration was awesome with too many good lines for me to even try to list them all. Great way for him to go out on this series.

[Mon-el]

I'm going to disagree with the majority(I usually do).

I thought this was a fantastic issue of Wonder Woman. It was the second book I read today. While some say nothing happened, I am going to disagree with them. Diana learned humility in defeat. Her passion for "Hope" is the greatest thing in this issue. That no matter how many battles she has fought that she still believes.

That is admirable.

Her friends wanting to stick by her at no matter what the cost. Diana caring for them first instead of her own personal safety, really was heroic.

I am going to agree though that I wished they would have ended this series with this Issue because it did read like a final Issue.

[shaxper]

I think you nailed it, Mon-el. That's pretty much how I saw this issue too.

[jadegiant77]

so what happened? :mad:


Geez, just tell the kid what happened!

Basically(and I am really truncating the story) Diana is called to Olympus by Athene. It seems that a new race of gods is coming, and the Olympians are getting the hell outta dodge before they get massacred by this new race. Athene asks Diana why she didn't go into exile with her fellow Amazons, and she replies "Hope." After a few more words, the gods vanish, leaving Di alone.The Amazing Amazon returns to earth, where she shuts down the Themyscrian embassy(good riddance). A crowd of supporters are outside the building with signs and banners. She goes and talks to them, asking them why they still believe in her after what she did to Max. One of them replies "Hope." Another askes her not to leave them and she replies(as she soars into the sky), "I haven't left you...and I never will." It ended with that image.

I was strangely moved by this issue(never EVER weep in a comic book store... :p ). This should have been the last issue. One of Rucka's best, which, after all the crap he put us thru on this title, is not saying much.

[shaxper]

It's one of the few comics that's ever brought a tear to my eye. Ever since WW #222, they've really been crafting Diana into a character that you just have to love. #225 is the ultimate testament to that. We learn in this issue that even Athena admires her.

[ForEverAncien]

This will sum up...for the entire journey of Diana.

Pallas--"WHY do you REMAIN?! ANSWER ME!"

Diana--"...Hope..."

Pallas--"WHAT?"

Diana--"I still...I still have hope."

[Fenix]

Great issue about faith and hope, and about Diana´s heart and soul. Unique in many ways, and the wrinting tries to bring some justice on that.
One of the best under Rucka helm.

[TJ Shoun]

Anybody else get the Diana's-gonna-get-knocked-off-during-IC vibes when they read that "no matter what the cost" line?



Ms. Troy, it's an honor to present you with the iconic outfit befitting your new lofty station... yes ma'am, we can refit that for a B-Cup immediately.

[Guts/Batman]

Yes.

I was saying "She is soooooo dead" as I was reading it.

[The Shadow]

I have been underwhelmed by Rucka's IC work, this was no exception.
Same here.

I LOVED the stuff BEFORE IC happened... after that everything that was good about the book went out the window for the sake of the mega event (which has been underwhelming thus far anyway).

The issue wasn't bad... nor was it great. The art was really nice though.

[DracoMalfoy]

I read it differently. There were several lines indicating Diana is going to live:

"Diana is the one TRUE Wonder Woman."

"This is not an end but an ENDING."

"I still have HOPE."

"I shall not abandon you. Come what may. Not now, Not EVER."


Again, this is an ENDING. Not the END of Diana. A new era for Wonder Woman. Especially with the New Gods, Athena mentioned coming.

[Guts/Batman]

Again, this is an ENDING. Not the END of Diana. A new era for Wonder Woman. Especially with the New Gods, Athena mentioned coming.

Keep in mind what happened to Wonder Woman during CoiE. She might not die per say, but she definitely won't be the same. A kind of fundamental change that I have noticed lately.

The kind of fundamental change that her current character has died.

In the case with some characters recently (Yes, I'm looking at you Batman), that is a very good thing. But it isn't with this character.

[Guts/Batman]

Same here.

I LOVED the stuff BEFORE IC happened... after that everything that was good about the book went out the window for the sake of the mega event (which has been underwhelming thus far anyway).

The issue wasn't bad... nor was it great. The art was really nice though.

Dc treading water a few monthes ago, I would be fine with but it just feels forced at this point.

Ever since Sacrifice, I can't find Rucka one issue that I can say that I have liked because of content.

[DracoMalfoy]

Keep in mind what happened to Wonder Woman during CoiE. She might not die per say, but she definitely won't be the same. A kind of fundamental change that I have noticed lately.

Dying would be redundant. What non-WW readers don't understand is that she dies quite often. And she comes back either in the same issue or the issue after. So dying in the Crisis would be like "whatever", unlike a person who CAN'T come back like Flash or Batman.

It's an ending of an era. She's gonna have a drastic change in her mission and her purpose in life. She has no country. No mission. And she's all alone. I don't know how ANYONE can see that she dies after such depravity. It just ain't right. Precisely what Rucka was cluing us in on: HOPE. She still hopes. She will "ENDURE". It couldn't have been more obvious. Rucka was practically waving a banner at us.

[Guts/Batman]

It might not be right. But every below B+ character has had their head on the chopping block since Countdown.

And no characters have been safe for monthes now. DC has played the death card too much. No death can surprise me anymore.

But do you find in coincidental that DC decided to bring Donna Troy back to Earth just prior to this? I sure as hell don't.

[Guts/Batman]

It might not be right. But every below B+ character has had their head on the chopping block since Countdown.

And no characters have been safe for monthes now. DC has played the death card too much. No death can surprise me anymore.

But do you find in coincidental that DC decided to bring Donna Troy back to Earth just prior to this? I sure as hell don't.

[DracoMalfoy]

It might not be right. But every below B+ character has had their head on the chopping block since Countdown.

And no characters have been safe for monthes now. DC has played the death card too much. No death can surprise me anymore.

But do you find in coincidental that DC decided to bring Donna Troy back to Earth just prior to this? I sure as hell don't.

I would consider Diana in the "A" League just below Batman and Superman. She only cedes to them after all.

Donna Troy's return was simply a way to revamp her character so it makes sense. Really, she has little to no connection to Wonder Woman's history. Not to mention nobody likes her anyway...

Cassie or even Pegasus is more likely to take the mantle of Wonder Woman than her.

There's no purpose. Wonder Woman is about peace. Donna Troy is about.....something......

And with the new Wonder Woman movie just about to come out why would they replace the main character with a person nobody knows and has the most confusing history in comicdom?

[TJ Shoun]

Again, this is an ENDING. Not the END of Diana. A new era for Wonder Woman. Especially with the New Gods, Athena mentioned coming.


I took it as an end of Diana, but not the icon of Wonder Woman.

I dunno, I just don't see what they're gonna do with 3 Wonder Women (Diana, Donna Troy, Cassie) in the DCU. :)

Maybe she doesn't die -- maybe she carries on her mission, but no longer in the iconic role of Wonder Woman? Hell, I'm just guessing here...

[DracoMalfoy]

I took it as an end of Diana, but not the icon of Wonder Woman.

But Diana IS Wonder Woman. There is no other WW...except Hipployta.


I dunno, I just don't see what they're gonna do with 3 Wonder Women (Diana, Donna Troy, Cassie) in the DCU. :)

It was always: Teenager, Young Adult, Adult to me. Same with Batman, Nightwing, Robin or Green Arrow, Arsenal, Connor or Aquaman, Tempest, Aquagirl or Superman, Superboy, Supergirl, etc.


On a lighter note, it annoys me that no matter what board I go to, everyone says WW is gonna die. As a WW fan, I'm a little miffed. I can't wait to rub it in everyone's face when they're wrong. Only five more months.... :D

[DracoMalfoy]

Maybe she doesn't die -- maybe she carries on her mission, but no longer in the iconic role of Wonder Woman? Hell, I'm just guessing here...

That's the most likely path. She becomes the "secret weapon" for the US military. Maybe even goes back to being Diana Prince.

[TJ Shoun]

But if Diana was succeeded by Donna or Cassie, it wouldn't be the first time DC's placed an emphasis on the symbolic icon over the person behind it.

Not that it's always a permanent change, y'know... :)

[DracoMalfoy]

Possibly. But GOD not DONNA. Cassie? Too young but maybe she'll get aged or something.

Donna has NO connection to WW whatsoever. Unlike Nightwing or Connor Hawke. She was just shooed in at the last minute.

[TJ Shoun]

On a lighter note, it annoys me that no matter what board I go to, everyone says WW is gonna die. As a WW fan, I'm a little miffed. I can't wait to rub it in everyone's face when they're wrong. Only five more months.... :D

You may be right.

I hope so. I wouldn't mind seeing Diana go off and follow her mission in a less iconic/high-profile manner, after all the embassy is gone. Hell, on the cover it says, "The Mission is Over".

Hmmm... yeah, Rucka was pretty obvious with all the "enduring" and "hope" going on so it would be odd if she actually died, but he was also pretty blatant with the "this era is over" vibes too.

My guess is that Diana's time as the WW is over for now, but I'd be very surprised to see her die.

[TJ Shoun]

Possibly. But GOD not DONNA. Cassie? Too young but maybe she'll get aged or something.

Donna has NO connection to WW whatsoever. Unlike Nightwing or Connor Hawke. She was just shooed in at the last minute.

True, but Donna wouldn't make a bad choice considering that all the ideology and mythos associated with Wonder Woman have been radically changed as of this last issue.

[Guts/Batman]

I would consider Diana in the "A" League just below Batman and Superman. She only cedes to them after all.

Donna Troy's return was simply a way to revamp her character so it makes sense. Really, she has little to no connection to Wonder Woman's history. Not to mention nobody likes her anyway...

Cassie or even Pegasus is more likely to take the mantle of Wonder Woman than her.

There's no purpose. Wonder Woman is about peace. Donna Troy is about.....something......

You're right.

But since Countdown does DC make sense?

Even "A" level characters are not safe during Infinite Crisis. And if they wanted to just revamp her character, why wait this long to do it? Unless they have another purpose for her... ;)

The timing is no coincidental at all.

[Guts/Batman]

On a lighter note, it annoys me that no matter what board I go to, everyone says WW is gonna die. As a WW fan, I'm a little miffed. I can't wait to rub it in everyone's face when they're wrong. Only five more months.... :D

It's not my fault that DC is playing the Death card too much, making death completely meaningless shock value.

[bfrank]

Possibly. But GOD not DONNA. Cassie? Too young but maybe she'll get aged or something.

Donna has NO connection to WW whatsoever. Unlike Nightwing or Connor Hawke. She was just shooed in at the last minute.
explain......

[DracoMalfoy]

explain......

For some odd reason Wonder GIRL came first before Wonder WOMAN. Donna's convuluted history enabled Donna to suddenly be a younger twin of Diana in the nineties. And since than they weren't really close. Jimenez began to touch up on their relationship and even than it seemed forced. It's very much like adding Dawn in the Buffy series.

Donna simply has little to no connection with the mythos of Wonder Woman and her ideals. She's first and foremost a Titan (team). Being a scion of Diana came later. MUCH later.

Nightwing and Arsenal are much more plausible inheritors because they've had YEARS of interaction with their mentors. Donna only knew Diana personally for what, like two or three?

Cassie spent more time with Diana for heaven's sake.

[DracoMalfoy]

It's not my fault that DC is playing the Death card too much, making death completely meaningless shock value.

True but only C-list characters. Who's been dying. Pantha? Blue Beetle? Their not anywhere near WW's class in prestige.

I think WW's getting a revamp much like the Flash (who had BETTER be Wally not friggin' Barry)

[bfrank]

For some odd reason Wonder GIRL came first before Wonder WOMAN. Donna's convuluted history enabled Donna to suddenly be a younger twin of Diana in the nineties. And since than they weren't really close. Jimenez began to touch up on their relationship and even than it seemed forced. It's very much like adding Dawn in the Buffy series.

Donna simply has little to no connection with the mythos of Wonder Woman and her ideals. She's first and foremost a Titan (team). Being a scion of Diana came later. MUCH later.

Nightwing and Arsenal are much more plausible inheritors because they've had YEARS of interaction with their mentors. Donna only knew Diana personally for what, like two or three?

Cassie spent more time with Diana for heaven's sake.

Post crisis, gotcha....you're leaving a lot out...I don't think Diana's gonna kick the bucket, however, if she does, Donna would be a much better replacement then anyone, save Hippolyta....

Cassie? lol....

[GabrielleWP]

Not that it would seem right if Cassie even accepted the role of WW if Diana were to die. If they kept with personality (HA, staying true to a character?) , it took Cassie a few years to even come close to wearing Donna's suit.

I don't know if they're going to off Diana but one thing I do know. They're treating her like yesterdays *SH*T*. The last two issues weren't even from her point of view, this last one is about Superman for crying out loud. At this point its driving me nuts how DC gives her more powers then ZIP takes them away.

What happens to her eyesight now that Athena is gone? That whole God's eye deal a mute point? Of course she was a Goddess at one point, had to take that away, knock her back down a few pegs. So lets take away her family, her friends and her gods.

I wonder if they'll be doing the same to Cassie since someone in comics said she was more powerful than she knew.

/sigh

GWP

[PatrickG]

As Max himself said, to knock him out is a temporary solution. Plus, I'm sure Diana is aware of the fact that no villain in the history of the DC Universe has ever been successfully incarcerated for any significant length of time. Someone at some point was going to free him (especially someone as well-connected as Max), and that wasn't a chance she was willing to take.


I can never be a fan of a hero who wouldn't TAKE that chance.

[PatrickG]

For some odd reason Wonder GIRL came first before Wonder WOMAN. Donna's convuluted history enabled Donna to suddenly be a younger twin of Diana in the nineties. And since than they weren't really close. Jimenez began to touch up on their relationship and even than it seemed forced. It's very much like adding Dawn in the Buffy series.

Donna simply has little to no connection with the mythos of Wonder Woman and her ideals. She's first and foremost a Titan (team). Being a scion of Diana came later. MUCH later.

Nightwing and Arsenal are much more plausible inheritors because they've had YEARS of interaction with their mentors. Donna only knew Diana personally for what, like two or three?

Cassie spent more time with Diana for heaven's sake.

You realize Donna was CREATED because somebody forgot that Diana was supposed to be Wonder Girl, right?

I'd say they're pretty connected, basically having been the same person all along.

And this "I have HOPE" business makes me think it's MORE likely she'll die. Isn't an unwritten rule that a character experiencing a burst of optimism must be about to die?

[DracoMalfoy]

You realize Donna was CREATED because somebody forgot that Diana was supposed to be Wonder Girl, right?

From what I know, in Post-Crisis, she was in comictime appeared before Diana on DC Earth. Than she was mystical twin all of sudden....


I'd say they're pretty connected, basically having been the same person all along.

Sure, for like five years. We have little to no connection to Donna. As comic fans we've seen Dick grow under Batman and we know that someday he'll take the mantle. Donna? She popped up out of nowhere and has appeared in less than two dozen of WW comics.

And this "I have HOPE" business makes me think it's MORE likely she'll die. Isn't an unwritten rule that a character experiencing a burst of optimism must be about to die?

Never heard THAT rule. You didn't see the "she ENDURES" clues all over the place.

[DracoMalfoy]

I can never be a fan of a hero who wouldn't TAKE that chance.

Guess you must not like Superman....or Iron Man....or Spider-Man.....or Captain America....

[The Shadow]

Ever since Sacrifice, I can't find Rucka one issue that I can say that I have liked because of content.
hehehe

Same here!

If you look at any of the posts regarding Diana and Rucka's Wonder Woman PRIOR to Sacrifice I was all over it with positives and lots of love.

Now I can barely force myself through it.

[PatrickG]

Guess you must not like Superman....or Iron Man....or Spider-Man.....or Captain America....

No. I'm ticked that writers corrupted them and relieved that later writers fixed them.

[DracoMalfoy]

hehehe

Same here!

If you look at any of the posts regarding Diana and Rucka's Wonder Woman PRIOR to Sacrifice I was all over it with positives and lots of love.

Now I can barely force myself through it.

I personally think Rucka's run of WW is the best arc EVER. And I've read every WW comic since Perez. It's a shame it will probably suck again....

Jimenez did an okay job...

[davids]

Wonder Tot, wonder Girl and wonder woman. all in the same comic, same story and apearing together at the same time. still can not understand that? :evilangry

[Tennoarashi]

Donna has a very important connection to Diana both pre and post-crisis. She may have been shoehorned into the WW-mythos after post-crisis, but even with the shoe-horning - she's pretty damn important to Diana.

[The Shadow]

I personally think Rucka's run of WW is the best arc EVER. And I've read every WW comic since Perez.
Same here actually... Though It's like 1A - Rucka and 1B - Perez for me.

I also really liked the Messer-Loeb stuff when she was in space for a while.

[DracoMalfoy]

Donna has a very important connection to Diana both pre and post-crisis. She may have been shoehorned into the WW-mythos after post-crisis, but even with the shoe-horning - she's pretty damn important to Diana.

Of course she's important to Diana....but not to us. Who? Donna died? Oh. Too bad.

Not so with Nightwing or Arsenal. We actually feel they could surpass their mentors.

[Stanlos]

I thought the writing and characterization were very powerful. I agree about the narrative boxes getting confusing (I had to re-read a few sections), but I really like what they're doing with Wonder Woman. For the first time, they're really showing what makes her a unique hero (other than the fact that she manages to keep her top from falling down). Batman and Superman have had real characterization treatment for years now. WW's finally getting her turn.

My one point of confusion is that they're trying to make her so heroic and perfect while the world judges and misunderstands her for killing Maxwell Lord, but I still don't see how that death was justifiable or warrented. She could have just knocked him out, accumulated evidence from the crime scene, and delivered him to the authorities (or the JLA if she was afraid they wouldn't believe her) with the understanding that he needed to be sedated at all times. Surely twisting his neck wasn't the only option available to her. If she's really the wonderful hero they're painting her to be in these last few issues, shouldn't she own up to that? Shouldn't she be bothered by it? I'd at least like to hear more about why she felt she had to do it.

Knocking Max out would not have stopped the psychotic episode. It was no simplistic "my telepathy is making you my puppet" ploy. This was a very complex and involved subjugation of his mind involving implanted suggestions, subversions and Max's own unique power. It took years to create and the SACRIFICE trade made it plain that no easy solution was there. While he was going off, the only straightforward options were to kill Superman or be killed by Superman. WW made a third option by refusing to harm the innocent (Superman) and instead go to the true threat (Max). Since the lasso no longer makes the captive her slave, she could not force him to undo the work (which made Supes his slave by remote). But it DOES force the captive to speak the truth. And she acted.

[Stanlos]

I personally think Rucka's run of WW is the best arc EVER. And I've read every WW comic since Perez. It's a shame it will probably suck again....

Jimenez did an okay job...

the prophetic quality of these words qualifies you for ORACLE!