Adventures of Superman 648 thoughts SPOILERS

[jwd]

So the previews says that Clark and Lois discuss their uncertain future during all the Crisis going on.


So I expect to read a book with Superman dealing with a crisis and somewhere in the story a discussion between him and his wife about their future. Maybe a hint of things to come. This being the last issue of a Superman title he's the star of before the OYL happens I'm looking forward to it.

What do I get instead - A book written like a newspaper article of Superman in Bludhaven. No dialog of any kind. No insight into what he's thinking. Just the article writers thoughts. It's of course Lois discussing what she thinks of Superman. Hope. humanity, etc. Same stuff we've seen written before.

It may just be me but I've never cared for this approach to storytelling. I don't mind seeing other characters narrate (like in For All Seasons) but I at least want to see some other people talking. I like to see interaction and the characters actually have voices.

On another note. Towards the end after the Chemo spill is taken care of Kid Flash is shown and then the very end you can see a 2nd Earth in the sky. So trying to fit this story into the IC4 book will be a challenge for those that care about tight storyline continuity.

Basically I'm disappointed. I was hoping for kind of a "Superman's thoughts on recent events" issue and sort of a swan song before they start fresh with new stories OYL.

[jerrymcl89]

The appearances by Robin and Beast Boy in the end shot also contradict the happenings in "Robin". Although failing to reconcile continuity with "Robin" is more understandable than failing to reconcile with IC itself.

[JimYung]

I don't remember the writeup for the issue, but I was fairly disappointed in this issue. I like Greg Rucka a lot but this issue felt like filler. In terms of using this narrative as a storytelling technique, I've seen it done before and done fairly well. I think that if this story was done at a different time, I might have looked upon it more favorably. It's tied in to Infinite Crisis but it's more of a story to point out how inspirational and special Superman is. It's almost a counterpoint to what Batman said to Superman but this isn't the first time this type of story was done. It was nothing special.

[Guts/Batman]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...More than likely it's a duck.

If it looks like filler, and reads like filler...More than likely it's a filler.

And this looked like and read like filler. I have been underwhelmed by Rucka lately and this didn't help.

[Lurker]

Yep. I'm saving a ton of money on DC. Everything deals with Infinite Crisis, ergo, all I really have to do is read Infinite Crisis to get the story and avoid coo-coo filler.

[Guts/Batman]

Yep. I'm saving a ton of money on DC. Everything deals with Infinite Crisis, ergo, all I really have to do is read Infinite Crisis to get the story and avoid coo-coo filler.


DC blew my mind this week with it's use of filler and confusing continuity. Batman #649 literally blew my mind.

[jwd]

Yep. I'm saving a ton of money on DC. Everything deals with Infinite Crisis, ergo, all I really have to do is read Infinite Crisis to get the story and avoid coo-coo filler.

Wish I'd done that with this story. Although I was only reading Superman, Adventures, and Batman so its not like I have a lot of extras. The Batman books at least has the "currently doesn't seem that connected with IC" Red Hood storyline. The Superman books though I wish I'd just skipped.

[Guts/Batman]

Wish I'd done that with this story. Although I was only reading Superman, Adventures, and Batman so its not like I have a lot of extras. The Batman books at least has the "currently doesn't seem that connected with IC" Red Hood storyline. The Superman books though I wish I'd just skipped.

Up until #648, I believed the current arc was pre-IC #1. It had all the signs of being pre-IC #1...

Then they throw what they threw in.

[LibrarianThorne]

I personally loved the issue. I enjoy issues like these, and it gave us a break from the "Superman is a whiny git" problem that's been going on since Identity Crisis.

[Jack Tango]

Continuity Cop to the Rescue!

On another note. Towards the end after the Chemo spill is taken care of Kid Flash is shown and then the very end you can see a 2nd Earth in the sky. So trying to fit this story into the IC4 book will be a challenge for those that care about tight storyline continuity.

No, that still works. Bludhaven got asploded upon by Chemo in the opening pages of Infinite Crisis #1, just after midnight (as we are told in this issue of Adventure of Superman). Superboy Prime's Beatdown of the Cornucopia of Heroes happens sometime the next day (given the sun shining).

The appearances by Robin and Beast Boy in the end shot also contradict the happenings in "Robin". Although failing to reconcile continuity with "Robin" is more understandable than failing to reconcile with IC itself.

Not at all. There's anywhere from 7 to 14 hours (presumably) between Bludhaven going Kablooey and Superboy Prime doing the whackjob routine.

Up until #648, I believed the current arc was pre-IC #1. It had all the signs of being pre-IC #1...

Then they throw what they threw in.

Nothing about this issue indicates that it happens immediately after the previous storyline. In fact, there is the implication that some time has passed as Lupe Leocadio is much more healed than when we last saw her.

Hope that helps.

[Nunzio DeFilippis]

Up until #648, I believed the current arc was pre-IC #1. It had all the signs of being pre-IC #1...

Actually, AOS #645 ended with Superman flying up to find the Watchtower destroyed, which led directly into IC #1. So 646-648 had to be post IC #1. 648, obviously, ties directly into IC #4.

[Guts/Batman]

Actually, AOS #645 ended with Superman flying up to find the Watchtower destroyed, which led directly into IC #1. So 646-648 had to be post IC #1. 648, obviously, ties directly into IC #4.

My bad for not being clear.

I was talking about Batman #648.

The problem with Batman is that the arc completely skipped over the RoE exploding over Gotham.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

I kinda dug this comic. I enjoyed little bits and pieces. The descriptiveness with Chemo and Hal breaking down from seeing another city wiped out were nicely done. As was a lot of the art.

I know its done a lot, but good 'ol fashioned "Superman swoops into the disaster zone and brings hope" story sometimes really hits the spot.

[Mon-el]

I kinda dug this comic. I enjoyed little bits and pieces. The descriptiveness with Chemo and Hal breaking down from seeing another city wiped out were nicely done. As was a lot of the art.

I know its done a lot, but good 'ol fashioned "Superman swoops into the disaster zone and brings hope" story sometimes really hits the spot.

I agree with Bored.

Sometimes it is just good to read a single comic about what a great job Superman means to the DCU.

Whether it was filler or not.

I quite enjoyed it.

[Azrael52]

Continuity Cop to the Rescue!



No, that still works. Bludhaven got asploded upon by Chemo in the opening pages of Infinite Crisis #1, just after midnight (as we are told in this issue of Adventure of Superman). Superboy Prime's Beatdown of the Cornucopia of Heroes happens sometime the next day (given the sun shining).



Not at all. There's anywhere from 7 to 14 hours (presumably) between Bludhaven going Kablooey and Superboy Prime doing the whackjob routine.



Nothing about this issue indicates that it happens immediately after the previous storyline. In fact, there is the implication that some time has passed as Lupe Leocadio is much more healed than when we last saw her.

Hope that helps.

Helped me at least, as Iwas going to type pretty much the same things.

[Azrael52]

My bad for not being clear.

I was talking about Batman #648.

The problem with Batman is that the arc completely skipped over the RoE exploding over Gotham.

Yeah, why couldn't we see the implications of something massive in Gotham say in a book already about Gotham?

Also, the Society's safehouse is in Gotham...wouldn't the world's greatest detective have figured this out? (OK, just poking at the guy). Though, that does lead me to this:

Countdown: Batman holding Ted Kord on cover
Omac: Brother Eye Directly tied to Batman
Day of Vengeance: Rock of Eternity blows up over Gotham
VU: Based out of Gotham
Rann/Thann War . . . Batman in space anyone?

[Watery Tart]

Rann/Thann War . . . Batman in space anyone?He's Batman. He can breathe in space. (http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20050131.html)

[TJ Shoun]

Yeah, well all the mainline DC superhero books are kinda treading water right now -- they really don't have much choice with IC going on.

So no, this wasn't a groundbreaking issue... but it was cool that apparently Supes is on the path to becoming more proactive and "inspirational". It's past time we moved past the post-Dark Knight Returns, goody-goody, tool-of-the-establishment, boyscout Superman characterization.

So Verheiden -- please stop.

Hey, Boy Scouts are cool. If I ever have a son I hope he joins, because I can't tie knots.

But I wouldn't necessarily say they're "inspirational".

I wonder if Supes can tie good knots? Bruce probably can.

Also, I like girl scout cookies.

And pie.