JSA Classified #7? *Spoilers*

[Watchman]

I'm surprised there's no thread to this issue.

I thought it was a great ending to the arc. It's nice to see villains get a good treatment, and be treated from a different perspective.

A nice return of Johnny Sorrow and the Injustice Society. Is Johnny Sorrow really that much of a badass?

Just a question or two:
1) Do the Gentlemen Ghost and Johnny Sorrow know each other personally? Because from the way they spoke towards each other, it felt like there was some personal connection between them. Not sure, maybe someone can clear this up for me.

2) Can someone tell me the limits of Johnny Sorrow's "instant kill" move? What other powers does he have and is he considered immortal?

EDIT:

3) Is Johnny Sorrow playing a part in IC?

4) How the hell is the Society supposed to take back the Key if Johnny Sorrow is against them?

[Leebenhouse]

Just one answer. Johhny Sorrow can kill most humans with a view of the extra dimensional horror that is his face. He killed a bunch of the Scarab's allies in WW2 with it and almost killed the current Dr. Midnight, but thanks to his unique vision, only came very near death. Pretty much any human with normal vision will die from shock upon seeing his face. Dying from shock sucks, that's how one of my cousins passed away.

Also due to his extra dimensional status, he can teleport, and has the ability to turn intangible.

I don't know if you read the King of Tears affair, but it's a good read if you want to see him in action, and his origin. And it's all Sand's fault.

[marshal99]

Only a few recorded instances of a few beings not dying when looking at Sorrow unmasked - the spectre is immune , Capt. Atom quantum jumped after getting a glimpse of him and Despero got knocked out.

As far as the history between gentleman ghost & sorrow has never been shown yet . Perhaps both being spirits met in the netherworlds ? Gentleman ghost is due to appear next in JSA so check him out there. :)

http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/images/GentlemanGhost03.jpg

[Drew Geraci]

Thanks for starting the post!

Van Meter wrote a great story and Patrick's storytelling made it all the more exciting! I wasn't familiar with Sorrow and previous Injustice Society continuity, so for me it was an appealing introduction. When I ink the pages, I understand the basic story, and I only refer to the script if I question what I'm looking at (with Patrick it wasn't a concern). That way I get to enjoy the published product as a reader, myself! :D

www.drewgeraci.com

[Cayman]

This was a pretty good mini. Maybe not essential reading, but nicely done. I was hoping to see Prometheus at the end. It'd be cool to see him take on the JSA.

Cay

[Leebenhouse]

A nice guide to pick up if you get the chance is the DC comics encylopedia published in late 2004 but obviously written shortly after Identity Crisis began. A few details are wrong/out of date(I.E. it reports Doctor Light killed Sue Dibney). It retails around $30-40 but has a relatively complete collection of DC characters, with quite a few obscure characters profiled, but there are a few currently important ones that are missing(like the now important Calculator).

[Guts/Batman]

Liked the issue.

I am glad to see Johnny Sorrow back. He is one of my favorite villains. I, too, was hoping to see Prometheus at the end but that's ok.

But to answer a few questions, I bet the Society wanted the key to make sure that Sorrow never got out again. Alexander should know what kind of danger he poses.

That said, I don't think he will have a role in IC, nor will the Injustice Society.

[Watchman]

I don't know if you read the King of Tears affair, but it's a good read if you want to see him in action, and his origin. And it's all Sand's fault.
What series/issues?

[Leebenhouse]

Hm, I forgot which, its been a long time. It was in the first 30-35 issues, if goret which trade. I don't have handy access to my JSA issues now.

[marshal99]

JSA #16-20 (Injustice Be Done)
http://www.hyperborea.org/selling/jsa-injustice.jpg

[handOFfate]

Yeah, Johnny Sorrow is a serious badass. He can kill you with a look, he can't be killed (hell, he can't be touced!), and he has teleporting and phasing abilities. His first storyline, collected in the JSA trade "Return of Hawkman", was awesome. He has a very personal history with Sand, whom he blames for killing his wife and ruining his life. I hope he shows up in the future.

[Watchman]

JSA #16-20 (Injustice Be Done)
http://www.hyperborea.org/selling/jsa-injustice.jpg
Ah, thank you! I'll be picking up these issues/the arc soon.

[yenaled]

This was a seriously good arc. I'd reconmend it to anyone who likes JSA. Van Melter is welcome on the book anytime she wants in :D

[Calamas]

This was an excellent arc, on par with her Cinnamon mini-series of a couple of years ago. Jan is a very good writer. Has anyone read her Elseworld Batman story? As I understand it, it came out around the time DC had abandoned the Elseworld concept and it was barely promoted. I can’t even remember its name. Any help with this--and discovering any more of her work--would be appreciated.

Thx.

[marshal99]

Come to think of it , Johnny Sorrow does have some undefine powers in "Injustice be done" - he somehow cured Black Adam of his brain tumor , he was able to somehow contact Rival from the speed force and pull him out from there.

[Justin D.]

Only a few recorded instances of a few beings not dying when looking at Sorrow unmasked - the spectre is immune , Capt. Atom quantum jumped after getting a glimpse of him and Despero got knocked out.

When did those events happen?

[Lex]

When did those events happen?
I think the Spectre one was during JSA's Injustice Be Done story where Sorrow first appeared.

Captain Atom and Despero seeing Sorrow's face both happened in the JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice OGN.

[Leebenhouse]

Come to think of it , Johnny Sorrow does have some undefine powers in "Injustice be done" - he somehow cured Black Adam of his brain tumor , he was able to somehow contact Rival from the speed force and pull him out from there.
Teleportation maybe? Might have had a way to drag Rival out of the Speed Force, and beam the tumor out of Black Adam's Brain.

Just a possible explanation.

[Guts/Batman]

I think the Spectre one was during JSA's Injustice Be Done story where Sorrow first appeared.

Captain Atom and Despero seeing Sorrow's face both happened in the JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice OGN.

Sorrow's true face not only KOed Despero but it also freed Luthor from Despero's "mind control."

I've always wondered why Cap Atom didn't die myself.

[Lex]

I've always wondered why Cap Atom didn't die myself.I think Johns fudged the rules a bit to have that cool scene where Cap appeared at the exact right moment to help KO Despero.

[Guts/Batman]

I think Johns fudged the rules a bit to have that cool scene where Cap appeared at the exact right moment to help KO Despero.

He had to.

With what I have seen of Sorrow (I have yet to read Injustice for All), that was definitely fudging the rules there.

[marshal99]

Teleportation maybe? Might have had a way to drag Rival out of the Speed Force, and beam the tumor out of Black Adam's Brain.

Just a possible explanation.

Unless Sorrow have x-ray vision , how would he know where to beam the tumor out ?

As for the speed force , how would he even have access to the speedforce dimension or whatever the place is ?

Like i said , there's some undefined powers of Sorrow if he can pull all these off.

[Watchman]

So how in the holy hell do you kill Sorrow then? He seems to be immortal from the posts here, with a one-hit kill move.

[marshal99]

Since he got his powers from an ancient HP lovecraft-like elder god "the king of tears" , i'm not sure he can be killed by conventional means. He can be contained though.

[Watchman]

Since he got his powers from an ancient HP lovecraft-like elder god "the king of tears" , i'm not sure he can be killed by conventional means. He can be contained though.
Well if he can be contained, then surely that containment proves that he must also have some sort of weakness?

[Guts/Batman]

Well if he can be contained, then surely that containment proves that he must also have some sort of weakness?

This thing is that, you have to keep him from removing his mask. That means that you have to bind his hands somehow.

Firestorm (not the current one) was able to temporarily prevent him from removing his mack by turning it into tar IIRC in JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice.

But that was only temporary.

He has no exploitable weakness.

[marshal99]

That mask is his only weakness it seemed , i think that mask is the thing controlling his intangibility/invisibility hence why Sorrow had to use the mask to become solid again.