Joe Fridays: *Huge X-Men roster spoilers*

[Blackcat]

Has the new roster of Uncanny been annouched anywhere? Cannoball will leave, Psylocke too, Ororo left. So will there be new additions to Uncanny???

[We R. Venom]

Sabertooth, I mean come on. What is this. Cable and Cannonball are fine, but with Polaris and Gambit and havok all gone, what is this?

[larroca fan]

jesus crist chris and mike and tan and ed this is trash where is larroca and claremont, i don't see whyt marvel doe'snt let them reunite and start a fresh book with eachother, larroca and claremont where the best together and marvel just ignore them.

[xmanson]

I wonder if they will live in the mansion.

[Mart]

Oh, now that does sound a crap mix. Cable had his day more than a
decade ago (and was useless then), the goodie/baddie ambiguity with
Mystique and Sabretooth has been done to death in the X-books, Rogue
is played out and needs a few years in the wilderness or at least on
a different team, Bobby has been portrayed as a petulant baby with
zero power control for years, despite being one of Marvel's senior
mutants, and Cannonball only ever sticks around a few issues before
popping off for some space shagging.

The book is dropped.

[Rasputin]

Sabertooth alone puts this on the drop list. As has been mentioned already, this has been done before and failed. Twice. One Wolverine is enough, I don't really want a second one. He just works better as a bad guy.

[jarrod]

I think I'd actually like the lineup of not for Sabretooth. It's pretty clear why he was brought in (no Wolverine) but he just doesn't make sense as an X-Man. With Mystique there's some leeway and moral ambiguity, but not Sabretooth.

I'm sad to see the Uncanny squad split up too, they all have an amazing synergy. Not sure who'll end up there, though Nightcrawler, Bishop and Marvel Girl all seem like solid canidates. I wouldn't mind seeing some oldies brought back... Forge, Domino, Magma or Northstar especially.

[X-Men Forever]

Sabertooth alone puts this on the drop list. As has been mentioned already, this has been done before and failed. Twice. One Wolverine is enough, I don't really want a second one. He just works better as a bad guy.

It failed only because it's the direction the writers took it. Who's to say that it will fail under Carey's direction? It all depends on the writer's direction for the character, much like how Austen slowly transformed Cain into a half way good guy. Much the same as Wolverine and Gambit being murderers in their past, they both were established by writers as reformed X-Men, and there is no reason that Sabretooth can't have the same chance given to him. But since we have not read one single issue from Carey, we have "NO" idea of what role Sabretooth will play on the team.

[jarrod]

It failed only because it's the direction the writers took it. Who's to say that it will fail under Carey's direction? It all depends on the writer's direction for the character, much like how Austen slowly transformed Cain into a half way good guy. Much the same as Wolverine and Gambit being murderers in their past, they both were established by writers as reformed X-Men, and there is no reason that Sabretooth can't have the same chance given to him. But since we have not read one single issue from Carey, we have "NO" idea of what role Sabretooth will play on the team.
The difference between Creed and all the other reformed X-Men (Logan, Magneto, Rogue, Banshee, Gambit, Emma, Cain, Marrow, Mystique, etc) is that he's actually psychotic. He's a serial killer, he enjoys killing... most of the others are simply reformed terrorists (which arguably all the X-Men are) or people who'd been misled or mistreated in some way or another. Their differences in morality were at least justifiable from their viewpoints though, Creed is a different level all together. Unless this is an X-Factor style "forced" membership (something I'd suspect most of the X-men to have problems with anyway, Rachel in particular) I just can't see how it's going to fly.

[Brian M.]

I just wanna know where Cable fits into it

[Rasputin]

It failed only because it's the direction the writers took it. Who's to say that it will fail under Carey's direction? It all depends on the writer's direction for the character, much like how Austen slowly transformed Cain into a half way good guy. Much the same as Wolverine and Gambit being murderers in their past, they both were established by writers as reformed X-Men, and there is no reason that Sabretooth can't have the same chance given to him. But since we have not read one single issue from Carey, we have "NO" idea of what role Sabretooth will play on the team.

True, but you pointed out three examples that lead me to immediately think: "Been there, done that." You can add Rogue to that list, too. It worked with three - I am not a Gambit fan.

The first time they tried it with Creed was on the heels of his hero turn in AOA - where he had a much different backstory. It felt like they were trying to shoehorn in those characteristics into the 616 version and it did not mesh at all. It does all depend on the motivation of the character. If it is a temporary membership simply for a common goal, then it wouldn't bother me. You are right, context is important. I am just putting out my initial reaction to that line-up.