View Full Version : Cap Atom - crisis theories
drpblunt
01-20-2006, 08:14 AM
why have i yet to see any speculation on what cap atom's role is in infinity crisis, i find it more than coincidental that he was transferred to the wildstorm universe during the IC event, there has to be some unseen implications. here is my theory...
currently cap is a threat to destroy the wildstorm universe by some energy build up, and he is desperatly trying to return to the dcu proper, i think whatever happens to return him will somehow disrupt the machine that alex luther has built.
not a well thought out theory i admit, but i will say, he defintly will play a role in the resolution of IC.
any speculation?
Agentum
01-20-2006, 08:17 AM
I just hope they won't kill him off.
Shellhead
01-20-2006, 08:26 AM
Like Red Tornado, Captain Atom is often the token casualty to showcase how powerful a villain is without permanently killing anybody. Red Tornado just gets wrecked and then rebuilt later. Captain Atom, at least in crossovers, is a delicate quantum soap bubble. One minute, he's flying around and blasting stuff, the next minute, he has been breached and vanishes in a puff of comicbook physics, only to reappear elsewhere and later.
drpblunt
01-20-2006, 08:34 AM
Like Red Tornado, Captain Atom is often the token casualty to showcase how powerful a villain is without permanently killing anybody. Red Tornado just gets wrecked and then rebuilt later. Captain Atom, at least in crossovers, is a delicate quantum soap bubble. One minute, he's flying around and blasting stuff, the next minute, he has been breached and vanishes in a puff of comicbook physics, only to reappear elsewhere and later.
so, what ur saying is he will have ABSOLUTLEY no impact on crisis??
if thats so, i disagree, i believe he will have a, as yet unseen impact on what is going on in crisis, i really dont think this mini is a seperate and self contained story. capt atom armegddon will factor in IC thats my hunch
hoopoe
01-20-2006, 08:54 AM
I thought the same thing for the first several issues, but with the introduction of the Authority, I think it's getting a bit muddy to try to make it link into IC -- unless the Wildstorm Universe somehow become Earth W or something - which would be a stretch and a bit odd, but who knows.
drpblunt
01-20-2006, 09:06 AM
I thought the same thing for the first several issues, but with the introduction of the Authority, I think it's getting a bit muddy to try to make it link into IC -- unless the Wildstorm Universe somehow become Earth W or something - which would be a stretch and a bit odd, but who knows.
yeah i know what u mean, i think cap's return is gonna impact events in IC but dont necessarily think that it will impact the wsu , but look at ic #3, there is a panel where PG is walking thru the ice cave of luthors and there is a crystal that clearly shows cap in the wsu costume, i think that this is some forshadowing to the connection, its just i cant figure out how that piece of the puzzle is gonna fit
Guts/Batman
01-20-2006, 08:28 PM
so, what ur saying is he will have ABSOLUTLEY no impact on crisis??
if thats so, i disagree, i believe he will have a, as yet unseen impact on what is going on in crisis, i really dont think this mini is a seperate and self contained story. capt atom armegddon will factor in IC thats my hunch
It is clear that WSU is a parallel universe to DCU. However, I don't think he will have a role in Infinite Crisis.
Having him get "killed" the way he was in S/B was stupid. As someone told me, killing Captain Atom with an explosion is like trying to kill Aquaman with water.
And if DC wants to keep WSU separate from DC Multiverse, he won't have any effect. I think the Armageddon mini is a self contained story, as least that is how it has been written so. And I hope it stays that way.
hoopoe
01-20-2006, 09:16 PM
yeah i know what u mean, i think cap's return is gonna impact events in IC but dont necessarily think that it will impact the wsu , but look at ic #3, there is a panel where PG is walking thru the ice cave of luthors and there is a crystal that clearly shows cap in the wsu costume, i think that this is some forshadowing to the connection, its just i cant figure out how that piece of the puzzle is gonna fit
i saw him in the ice cave as well and i really think it's an indication that he'll have something to do with IC. Jimenez and the gang never would have put him in there if it wasn't some sort of clue, i would think.
PatrickG
01-20-2006, 09:27 PM
It is clear that WSU is a parallel universe to DCU. However, I don't think he will have a role in Infinite Crisis.
Having him get "killed" the way he was in S/B was stupid. As someone told me, killing Captain Atom with an explosion is like trying to kill Aquaman with water.
And if DC wants to keep WSU separate from DC Multiverse, he won't have any effect. I think the Armageddon mini is a self contained story, as least that is how it has been written so. And I hope it stays that way.
Well, he wasn't really intended to be dead in SUPERMAN/BATMAN anyway.
Like another poster said, Cap is convenient for fakeout death scenes because writers know that blowing him up doesn't kill him. But almost every time, it gets treated as if it were a death scene. I suspect it's because death scenes are fun to write and writers know they can kill off Cap all they want without having to keep him dead.
Guts/Batman
01-20-2006, 10:33 PM
That's true.
I like Armageddon personally. I suspect and hope that Cap Atom stays in WSU without wasting the universe.
ExoKnight
01-21-2006, 06:51 AM
We all know that DCU and WSU are parallel universe and they do connect to each other. Especially recently with Majestic being in the DCU and Superman being in the WSU. Both of those stories are canon, not elsewhere. I think Captain Atom will return to the DCU but in doing so will reset the current Wildstorm Universe for their eventual relaunch with Grant/Gail/Jim, etc.
That would give those creators a fresh start and give them the ability to tell their own stories without being bogged down with the current continuity. Another possibility is that the DCU and WSU merge at some point. In Dan Didio interview at newsrama he kept meantioning "Look to the Sky", which could mean some type of WSU/DCU connection in the future.
Although personally with Captain Atom resetting the WSU I don't see how the Authority couldn't stop him. For christ sake, they killed God!! If both universes did merge I couldn't possibly see how the Authority would fit into the DCU. They would be considered a major threat to all heroes because of their ideal. The JLA, TT, Outsiders, etc. would be teaming up to bring them down once they started to exert their control on government policies.
yenaled
01-21-2006, 06:59 AM
I think because of the Crisis and because of Alex tearing open new parellel universes that all this power transfer and upheavel will make it so Captain Atom can get back.
I don't think he will have a huge role in the crisis but I think it will play in nicely.
Just_A_Rat
01-21-2006, 08:46 AM
yeah i know what u mean, i think cap's return is gonna impact events in IC but dont necessarily think that it will impact the wsu , but look at ic #3, there is a panel where PG is walking thru the ice cave of luthors and there is a crystal that clearly shows cap in the wsu costume, i think that this is some forshadowing to the connection, its just i cant figure out how that piece of the puzzle is gonna fit
Lets not forget that this is also his Kingdom Come costume. Not saying the conclusion is wrong, but wanted to point out that there is a different interpretation that is equally valid of that image.
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