Rate the X-Men

[slively]

I have always found the ratings in the handbooks interesting and frequently disagree with them. For example, in the Ultimate Handbook, Dazzler is equal to Ckye in strength, speed, and intelligence. Cyke comes out a little higher in both fighting skills and energy projection.

I can understand Cyke having better fighting skills. I am surprised to see Daz rated equally with Cyke in strength.

So I thought it would be fun to let us X fans do the ratings for a change.

But there is a twist here. In addition to the handbook ratings, I am adding some of my own! I am going to list one character each week and give everyone the opportunity to rate that character. At the end of the week (for the first character I will keep the rating period open until the 28th, so that subsequent weeks begin on Sunday and end on the following Saturday) I will compile everyone's ratings and post a definitive rating based on the averages. Then I will post the next character to be rated.

Once everyone has been rated, I will compile the results and post them together. At that point, I plan on taking this a bit further.......but you must wait and see what comes next!

The ratings are from 1 to 7, just as in the handbooks, with 1 being the lowest and 7 the highest.

Power ratings
Intelligence
Ability to think and process information
1 Slow/impaired
2 Normal
3 Learned
4 Gifted
5 Genius
6 Super-Genius
7 Omniscent

Strength
Ability to lift weight
1 Weak: Cannot life own body weight
2 Normal: Able to life own body weight
3 Peak Human: Able to life twice on body weight
4 Superhuman: 800 lbs to 25 ton range
5 Superhuman: 25-75 ton range
6 Superhuman: 75 to 100 ton range
7 Incalculable: In excess of 100 tons

Speed
Ability to move over land by running or flight

1 Below Normal
2 Normal
3 Superhuman: peak range: 700 MPH
4 Speed of sound: Mach-1
5 Supersonic: Mach-2 through Orbital Velocity
6 Speed of light
7 Warp Speed

Durablity
Ability to resist or recover from bodily injury
1 Weak
2 Normal
3 Enhanced
4 Regenerative
5 Bulletproof
6 Superhuman
7 Virtually indestructible

Energy Projection
Ability to discharge energy
1 None
2 Ability to discharge energy on contact
3 Short range, duration, single energy type
4 Medium range, duration, single energy type
5 Long range, long duration, single energy type
6 Able to discharge multiple forms of energy
7 Virtually unlimited command of all forms of energy

Fighing Ability
Proficiency in hand-to-hand combat
1 Poor
2 Normal
3 Some Training
4 Experienced fighter
5 Master of a single form of combat
6 Master of several forms of combat
7 Master of all forms of combat

I am also open to any suggestions that would make this more interesting or fun.

First up: Cyclops (616)

The handbook categories:

Intelligence
Strength
Speed
Durability
Energy Projection
Fighting Skills

My categories:

Current Costume
Leadership
Ethics
Friendship
Love Life
Hotness

Please keep the other X-Men in mind when assigning ratings. For example, to rate Cyclops a 5 in the intelligence category would mean that you consider his intelligence to be equal to or greater than Beast's. So ratings cannot be assigned in a vacuum - they have to correspond with the abilities of the other X-Men as you see them in relation to one another.

It would be great if you could site specific examples to back up your ratings, but it is not a requirement.

[Beast]

If you look at the grid on the back, the 2 just means 'Normal Strength'.

So it is accurate, both of them are in pretty peak physical condition and neither of them have any enhanced strength powers or debilitating injuries or such that would weaken them. :)

[slively]

If you look at the grid on the back, the 2 just means 'Normal Strength'.

So it is accurate, both of them are in pretty peak physical condition and neither of them have any enhanced strength powers or debilitating injuries or such that would weaken them. :)


Yes, but that is not the point! However I will go back and edit in the ranking meanings.

[Beast]

Cyclops (616):

Current Costume: 2 (Sorry, current costume is absurdly awful)
Leadership: 6 (Best leader - Almost on par wih Captain America)
Ethics: 4 (Fairly Ethical - But due to Maddy and Emma issues he loses points)
Friendship: 3 (Only really close friends with the Original Five, fairly detached)
Love Life: 2 (Too obsessed with Jean - Hinders all his relationships)
Hotness: 2 (He just doesn't do it for me. I'm sure he's hot to some people)

[Beast]

Yes, but that is not the point! However I will go back and edit in the ranking meanings.
Yeah, I know. I was just clarifying what I meant. And I did ranked him. :D

[cable guy]

Cyclops

EDIT:

Current Costume -5- I like it alot
Leadership- 7- Best asset
Ethics-4- changed from 5.
Friendship-2- isn't the most friendly person, period.
Love Life- 4- always in deap relationships
Hotness-N/A- I don't know.

[tangentman]

A minor point, but the highest rank in the current Marvel Handbooks is a
7. :)


The handbook categories:

Intelligence 3
Strength 2
Speed 2
Durability 2
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Skills 4

My categories:

Current Costume 4--I like the design, simple yet striking.
Leadership 5--Cyclops stands out in the MU as one of the BEST leaders.
Ethics 3--The Emma affair lowered his rank imo.
Friendship 3--See above. Cyke's had to make tough choices there.
Love Life 5--Definitely not the blandness that was 90's Scott/Jean.
Hotness 3--I would have said a 1 or 2 BEFORE his fling w/Emma. Thanks to Morrison, I see Cyclops as a sexual person in terms of characterization.

[slively]

A minor point, but the highest rank in the current Marvel Handbooks is a
7. :)


The handbook categories:

Intelligence 3
Strength 2
Speed 2
Durability 2
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Skills 5

My categories:

Current Costume 4--I like the design, simple yet striking.
Leadership 5--Cyclops stands out in the MU as one of the BEST leaders.
Ethics 3--The Emma affair lowered his rank imo.
Friendship 3--See above. Cyke's had to make tough choices there.
Love Life 5--Definitely not the blandness that was 90's Scott/Jean.
Hotness 3--I would have said a 1 or 2 BEFORE his fling w/Emma. Thanks to Morrison, I see Cyclops as a sexual person in terms of characterization.

Actually not a minor point!! A major mistake on my part! I went back and added to rankings up to 7. Sorry for the mistake!! If you could go back and change your ratings accordingly, I would be appreciative! :)

[xakko]

First up: Cyclops (616)

Intelligence 4 He's bright- very mechanically inclined, but no super-genius
Strength 3 He keeps himself in tip-top shape, but nothing superhuman
Speed 2 He'll outrun your average Joe, but not an Olympic sprinter
Durability 2 (unless you count the unstable molecule body armor)
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Skills 5

My categories:

Current Costume 2 bleh- not failing, but nothing great
Leadership- 6 - I want to give him a 7, but recent performances prevent it
Ethics- 3 - could be a 5 if Emma coerced his affections. Still, he's a black/white sort of person usually, and he's almost always on the side of the angels
Friendship- 2 He's no great shakes here. He's emotionally distant.
Love Life- 1 - Right now, he's bedding his wife's rival. Kissed her on his wife's grave. Yeah, that's healthy
Hotness- 5 - something's gotta be attracting all these women... Jean, Colleen Wing, Lee Forrester, Maddy Pryor...

[Beast]

Actually not a minor point!! A major mistake on my part! I went back and added to rankings up to 7. Sorry for the mistake!! If you could go back and change your ratings accordingly, I would be appreciative! :)
Updated mine as well, though it really only changed his leadership number. :)

[tangentman]

Actually not a minor point!! A major mistake on my part! I went back and added to rankings up to 7. Sorry for the mistake!! If you could go back and change your ratings accordingly, I would be appreciative! :)

My ratings would stay the same...if you'll give me a minute or two, I'll come back with the rankings and their meanings edited in here. BRB!


What the ratings mean for each catagory.


Intelligence : ability to think and process information.
Rating of 1. Slow/impaired
Rating of 2. Normal
Rating of 3. Leanded
Rating of 4. Gifted
Rating of 5. Genius
Rating of 6. Super-Genius
Rating of 7. Omniscient
__________________________________________________ _______________
Strength: Ability to heft weight.
Rating of 1. Weak, can not lift own body weight
Rating of 2. Normal, able to lift own body weight
Rating of 3. Peak human, bale to lift twice own body weight
Rating of 4. Superhuman: 800 lbs - 25 ton range
Rating of 5. Superhuman: 25 - 75 ton range
Rating of 6. Superhuman: 75 - 100 ton range
Rating of 7. Incalcuable : In excess of 100 tons
__________________________________________________ _______________
Speed: Ability to move over land by running or flight.
Rating of 1. Below normal
Rating of 2. Normal
Rating of 3. Superhuman: peak range of 700 MPH
Rating of 4. Speed of sound: Mach-1
Rating of 5. Supersonic: Mach-2 through Orbital velocity
Rating of 6. Speed of light
Rating of 7 Warp speed :Transcending light speed
__________________________________________________ _______________
Durability: Ability to resist or recover from bodily injury.
Rating of 1. Weak
Rating of 2. Normal
Rating of 3. Enhanced
Rating of 4. Regenerative
Rating of 5. Bulletproof
Rating of 6. Superhuman
Rating of 7 Virtually indestructible
__________________________________________________ _______________
Energy Projection: Ability to dicharge energy.
Rating of 1. None
Rating of 2. Ability to discharge energy on contact
Rating of 3. Short range, Short Duration, single energy type
Rating of 4. Medium range, Medium duration, Single energy type
Rating of 5. Long range , long duration , Single energy type
Rating of 6. Able to discharge multiple forms of energy
Rating of 7. Virtually unlimited command of all forms of energy
__________________________________________________ _______________
Fighting Skill: Proficiency in hand to hand combat.
Rating of 1. Poor skills
Rating of 2. Normal Skills
Rating of 3. Some training
Rating of 4. Experienced fighter
Rating of 5. Master of a single form of combat
Rating of 6. Master of seveal forms of combat
Rating of 7. Master of all forms of combat

[slively]

Yay!! Bless you all! My bad! :D

Also, if anyone has any other categories they think would be rate worthy, I will consider all suggestions.

[slively]

My ratings would stay the same...if you'll give me a minute or two, I'll come back with the rankings and their meanings edited in here. BRB!


What the ratings mean for each catagory.

Dang. And I typed all those in by hand!! :eek:

[lament]

Cyclops

The Handbook Categories:

Intelligence: 3 He's bright, well-educated, and seems to learn things quickly
Strength: 2
Speed: 2
Durability: 2
Energy Projection: 4
Fighting Skills: 4

slively's Categories:

Current Costume: 2 I've liked his previous looks far better.
Leadership: 4 I'd give him a 5 on the battlefield, but he loses a point when it comes to dealing with his team on an interpersonal level.
Ethics: 3 He's a good man, but his ethics are pretty much forged by blind faith in Xavier, in my opinion, and that's problematic.
Friendship: 2 Like I said, he lacks people skills. He really hasn't formed close friendships outside of the originals.
Love Life: 2 Maddy and Emma. 'Nuff said.
Hotness: 2 Eh. He'd be hotter if he relaxed a bit. Every now and then, someone draws him in with a t-shirt and razor-stubble. That's a good look for him, but usually, he's too stiff.

[Chiasm]

Intelligence - 3. Smarter than average but nothing great.
Strength - 3. There probably should be a category between peak human (Captain America) and normal.
Speed - 2 He's probably faster than most normals
Durability - 2 Again. Better than most normals due to being in good shape but not superhuman.
Energy Projection 5 No explanation needed.
Fighting Skills 5.5 He's very skilled but not Cap / Wolverine level.

Current Costume -1 Can it get worse? It would be hard.
Leadership - 5 Reluctantly. He seems to have downgraded a lot lately.
Ethics - 3 He used to be higher. Emma is bad influence
Friendship - 3 Emma factor again.
Love Life - 1 Emma. Slutqueen from hell. I think she is psychically controlling him.
Hotness - 0 - I'm not gay. Nuff said.

[rogueslayer14]

Intelligence: 3
Strength: 2
speed: 2
Durability: 2
Energy Projection: 5
Fighting Skill: 4

Current Costume: 4
Leadership: 6
Ethics: 4
Friendship: 3
Love Life: 3
Hotness: 4

[Jon Waldrop]

Intelligence: 3 (smart but no genious)
Strength: 2 (decent from working out)
speed: 2 (a little faster than average but no olympic sprinter)
Durability: 4 (it seems he works out a lot)
Energy Projection: 5 (optic blasts are cool)
Fighting Skill: 3 (he could win a fight against humans)

Current Costume: 2 (just like the classic look better)
Leadership: 4 (used to be higher but he is slacking lately)
Ethics: 2 (blind faith in Xavier and mind control from Emma, not a good combination)
Friendship: 1 (he is not friendly at all)
Love Life: 2 (to many women, and the one he really loves he can't have)
Hotness: 2 (but I am a guy, so what do I know)

[Doom Hammer]

Handbook Rankings

Intelligence
3 Learned - Had to learn something in those years at Xavier's Institute for "Higher Learning", right?

Strength
2 Normal - Average guy, no strength-enhancing powers


Speed
2 Normal - Again, self-explanatory


Durablity
3 Enhanced - What's the current stance on "unstable molecules" as armor? Regardless, he walked off a rather serious gunshot wound in AXM, so I;ll give him this ranking...for now.

Energy Projection
5 Long range, long duration, single energy type - That optic blast is one of the coolest things about the X-Men, and as we see in the second arc of AXM, packs quite a whallop.

Fighing Ability
4 Experienced fighter - not so experienced that he won't get his ass handed to him by Storm, and certainly not a master of any martial art, but still, he's got skillz.

Slively's Rankings

Current Costume
5 Damn spiffy - How could it be better? Floppy pirate boots? Flowing hair? No thanks, though I prefer his NXM uniform, his costume is as cool as its ever been.

Leadership
6 Almost Napoleon - Captain America is a better leader, but in the long run, Cyclops is one of the definitive MU leaders. I feel dirty for not giving him a 7.

Ethics
2 Scandalous - The women are his downfall.

Friendship
3 Varying - His X-relationships are all a bit shaken up by his relationship with Emma, and he's never been on great terms with his family. He's a little stiff, too, and let's not talk about his "friendship" with Wolverine...

Love Life
6 Daredevil-level Himbo - Lotsa ladies. Is he satisfied with himself? He seems to be with Emma.

Hotness
6 Smokin' - The ladies love him, he's in a position of power, and the single father angle is sure to draw a crowd...in spite of the fact that Cable's older than him and Rachel's not technically his kid.

[Nyssane]

Cyclops

Intelligence - 3
Strength - 2
Speed - 2
Durability - 2
Energy Projection - 5
Fighting Skills - 3

Current Costume - 2
Leadership - 6
Ethics - 4
Friendship - 3
Love Life - 2
Hotness - 3

[venuscameback]

Cyclops:

Intelligence
Ability to think and process information
3 Learned

Strength
Ability to lift weight
3 Peak Human: Able to life twice on body weight

Speed
2 Normal

Durablity
2 Normal

Energy Projection
Ability to discharge energy
4 Medium range, duration, single energy type

Fighing Ability
Proficiency in hand-to-hand combat
3 (arguably a four but we see him use his optic blasts more, I think, these days than we used to)

Current Costume - 7. Hey, someone has to like it ...
Leadership - 4. His alliance with Emma makes him tougher to follow unquestioningly
Ethics - 4. I would trust him to look after my money & secrets but not my heart
Friendship - 3. Reliable, but not Mr Fun. Used to be a 5 and a real "there for you" person but he seems more self-focussed these days. Which is prob good for him but less good for his friendships.
Hotness - 3. He's physically hot but loses points for being uptight & kissing over Jean's grave.

I don't know how to rate him for love life. I'm not sure what you're asking.

venus

[xakko]

I think it's safe to say that Cyclops is highly trained in judo. He doesn't use it much, not since the pre-200 issues of Uncanny.

He was able to Judo throw a 500 lb. man, and was able to perform a nerve pinch while falling.

He also was able to hold off an enraged Wolverine, throwing him twice.

[The Fury]

Strength
Ability to lift weight
1 Weak: Cannot life own body weight
2 Normal: Able to life own body weight
3 Peak Human: Able to life twice on body weight
4 Superhuman: 800 lbs to 25 ton range
5 Superhuman: 25-75 ton range
6 Superhuman: 75 to 100 ton range
7 Incalculable: In excess of 100 tons

First, I know this is not the point of the thread but this above is incredibly vague. I mean, 25-75? There's a big difference between the 2. And even more difference between 800lbs and 25 tons. The real life world strongest men might be able to get near 800 lbs. And they are just hyped up humans.


Cyclops:

Intelligence - 3
Strength - 3
Speed - 2
Durability - 2
Energy Projection - 5
Fighting Skills - 3

Slively categories:

Current Costume - 1 (body comdom indeed)
Leadership - 6 (only Cap A is 7)
Ethics - 5 (too much mutant minded thought nowadays)
Friendship - 3
Love Life - 4 (banging hot babes :), bitching his wife and kid once and having an affair :( )
Hotness - 4 (I guess).

[Neolucifer]

Intelligence - 3
Strength - 3
Speed - 2
Durability - 3 (i think that while he got no special constitution feats , nor regeneration and healing powers , he is fairly resistant )
Energy Projection - 5
Fighting Skills - 3

Current Costume - 4 ( what can i say i like the condom , and it will never be worse imo than the jacket era)

Leadership - 4 (He got an uncanny sense for battle tactics , however his lack of social skills lessen his impact .. not to mention a few questionable choices)

Ethics - 4 (quite high level of ethics that dont really enter in action when it comes down to his personal life)

Friendship - 2 (Had constant beef with Wolverine , a few others with teamates once everywhile , can come off as a cold jerk , often cause troubles with his relationships)

Love Life - 4 (Had once nice yet quickly boring marriage with Jean , treated quite badly Maddie and Jean , however things are looking brighter ever since he got with Emma )

Hotness - 2 (i would give him a 1 but he still was quite a player , and ultimately managed to nail and apparently tame that skank of Emma :D )

[slively]

I don't know how to rate him for love life. I'm not sure what you're asking.

venus


For that category, I am talking about his experiences with romantic relationships. Some could say his love life has been a mess: Tormented marriage to Jean, walking out on Maddy, hooking up with Emma (a woman of questionable ethics, who pursued him during his marriage to Jean).

That kind of thing. Make sense?

Edit: Or some folks may think he is quite the stud......for example Neolucifer. :D

[slively]

First, I know this is not the point of the thread but this above is incredibly vague. I mean, 25-75? There's a big difference between the 2. And even more difference between 800lbs and 25 tons. The real life world strongest men might be able to get near 800 lbs. And they are just hyped up humans.

Those are straight from the handbook and don't have to be applied stringently. I just included them for a reference point.

What I am looking for is how you have experienced the character. Sometimes we form impressions of characters that do not always correspond with the ratings Marvel chooses to assign to them. :)

[Faded]

MERCURY
Real Name: Cessily Kincaid

Intelligence ||
Strength ||
Speed |||
Durability |||||
Energy Projection |
Fighting Skills |||

Current Costume* ||
Leadership |||
Ethics |||
Friendship |||||
Love Life ||
Hotness |||||

Mercury's leadership potential has been shown in her ability to stand her ground against others, when she believes them to be wrong. However, in the past she has shown to be a little bit of a follower, but it is unknown whether or not she's grown out of that.

She is ethical in the sense of treating her close entourage with respect, however she is willing to break the law to accomplish her goals.

She is a great friend and loyal teammate who has a motto of not leaving anyone out. Unfortunately, her love life isn't fairing well as she has fallen for a guy who is interested in another, and at times mopes over it. However, her maturity allows her to not fall too far in this department.

And her metallic skin and lovely red hair can be considered an exotic beauty. However, as of late her color coordination and hairstyles can be questioned.

*Based on tentative sketches for costume.

[lament]

Mercury, hmmm? Okay:

Handbook Categories
Intelligence: 2
Strength: 2 (although I'm uncertain about this)
Speed: 3
Durability: 5
Energy Projection: 1
Fighting Skills: 3 (seems to have natural ability)

Other Categories
Current Costume: 2
Leadership: 2 (so far)
Ethics: 3
Friendship: 5
Love Life: 2
Hotness: 5

[Nyssane]

Mercury

Intelligence - 2
Strength - 2
Speed - 2
Durability - 4
Energy Projection - 1
Fighting Skills - 2

Current Costume* - 3
Leadership - 2
Ethics - 3
Friendship - 5
Love Life - 2
Hotness - 2

[slively]

We will make Mercury the choice for next week! It will be interesting to see how the school kids rate, as they are still evolving. :)

Meantime, back to Cyclops! I love you Faded!! :D

[Faded]

We will make Mercury the choice for next week! It will be interesting to see how the school kids rate, as they are still evolving. :)

Meantime, back to Cyclops! I love you Faded!! :D

I'm sorry for interrupting! I love you too slively!!! :D

[slively]

I'm sorry for interrupting! I love you too slively!!! :D


You gave me a great idea for next week!! :D Hi Fi would be proud!

[slively]

Power ratings
Intelligence
Ability to think and process information

2 Normal

Strength
Ability to lift weight

3 Peak Human: Able to life twice on body weight

Speed
Ability to move over land by running or flight


2 Normal

Durablity
Ability to resist or recover from bodily injury

2 Normal


Energy Projection
Ability to discharge energy

5 Long range, long duration, single energy type

Fighing Ability
Proficiency in hand-to-hand combat

4 Experienced fighter

My categories:

Current Costume - 6 I love his current look. One of his best for me.
Leadership - 5 - One of his strongest areas.
Ethics - 5 - He is obsessed with right and is usually ethical in all his dealings.
Friendship - 2 - Very closed off emotionally and difficult to get close to.
Love Life - 1 - I think this has been a mess. His relationship with Jean was complicated and heart-breaking, his treatment of Maddy appalling and his current relationship with Emma is baffling.
Hotness - 4 - Depends on who draws him! Coipel made him look damn sexy!

[StarsAndGarters]

How about the GLA guys? Here's Mr. Immortal!

Intelligence
2 Normal

Strength
2 Normal: Able to life own body weight

Speed
2 Normal

Durablity
7 Virtually indestructible

Energy Projection
1 None

Fighing Ability
2 Normal

Current Costume: 4 - pretty cool
Leadership: 2 - better than crappy
Ethics: 1 - guy wants to smeggin' kill himself
Friendship: 3 - seems nice to the team, but gets depressed to the point of being a jerk
Love Life: 1 - the love of his life is dead (both of them actually)
Hotness: 2 - pretty normal guy

[Faded]

Cyclops

Intelligence - 3
Strength - 3
Speed - 2
Durability - 2
Energy Projection - 5
Fighting Skills - 4

Current Costume - 4 It really depends on the artist. Randy Green drew it well, and as much as Cassaday's art is beautiful, his version makes him look like the most beautifullest condom I've ever did see.

Leadership - 6
Ethics - 5
Friendship - 3
Love Life - 2
Hotness - 3

[Callie]

Cyclops

Intelligence - 3
Strength - 3
Speed - 2
Durability - 2
Energy Projection - 5
Fighting Skills - 4

Current Costume - 4 (I think it's his best yet but the cowl needs to go)
Leadership - 6 (Only the Cap is better.)
Ethics - 3 (He definitely knows the difference between good/evil, right/wrong. However, he makes piss poor choices when it comes to loved ones.)
Friendship - 2 (Beneath the fearless leader exterior, he's still an awkward, reserved geek.)
Love Life - 2 (I would consider him bordering on co-dependent, probably due to his unstable childhood. He needs to feel loved, so he is constantly in relationships, but they're not all very healthy.)
Hotness - 4 (Something is attracting the ladies. Might be mental, since it's one telepath after another...)

[d newton]

Love Life 1 - Right now, he's bedding his wife's rival. Kissed her on his wife's grave. Yeah, that's healthy.

Love Life: 2 Emma. 'Nuff said.

Love Life - 1 Emma. Slutqueen from hell. I think she is psychically controlling him.

I'm surprised about the above 3 comments and Emma's role in this. :p :D As for psychically controlling him, reread the conversation between them after Hank, Kitty & Logan have left the room!

[Uncle Nobs]

Cyclops (616)

(Can we use half-measurements like 2.5, 4.5? If not, just round my answers down.)

Intelligence - 4.5
Definitely gifted, but I don't know if I'd call him a genius. Kitty's a good example of genius, as she picks up new skills and concepts ridiculously quickly. Still, this is a close call. Scott's tactical skills are amazing. Check out UXM #175, where he has to fight the whole team on his own, or the Proteus issue where he knows he has to antagonize Logan if he's going to save him from himself.

Strength - 2.5
He probably weighs around 200-215. I'm sure he could lift about 300.

Speed - 2
Human.

Durability - 3
Sorry, but it has been stated that ALL mutants recover from injury and illness slightly faster than humans. That's why characters with broken bones don't wear casts for endless issues. Some readers may not like it, but it's canon.

Energy Projection - 5
Long duration, for sure. It's always on.

Fighting Skills - 4
Very experienced, but not a master of anything. What a slacker.

Current Costume - 2
2 seems to be normal or so-so on the previous measurements, so that's what he gets. Certain artists can make it look good. It would look very athletic in real life. Still, not all that creative or functional. Plus, Scott should know by now that he struggles against an "uptight guy" stereotype. Lose the skullcap. Loosen up.

Leadership - 5
7 on the previous measurements is godlike, and 5 is genius on the intelligence one. I can't assign him anything higher because that would put him in some sort of superhuman range.

Ethics - 6
This is why I love Cyke. He's human. He's vulnerable. For all his lofty ideals, sound judgment, and ability to make split-second life-or-death decisions, he finds himself in situations where a sense of black-and-white morality won't help him. What is the right thing to do when the love of your life returns from the grave and you have not only suspected all along, but have received ominous signs that your wife and your former lover are the same person? You have to find out for sure. What's the right thing to do when your marriage isn't working anymore, your wife is once again becoming a goddess who can barely relate to mere mortals and looking her in the eyes fills you with terror over her immense power? When you feel that lost, and someone reaches out to you that understands your pain and is just as human, vulnerable, and misunderstood as you are? Many readers may not agree with writers putting Scott in these positions, but they did. And Scott reacted as real people do. He had to face his own self-deception and deal with the fact that his code of honor didn't account for everything life could throw at him. He had to grow up and understand that you can only do the right thing based on the situation you're in, not based on some sort of imaginary rulebook of How To Be A Big Shiny Boyscout And Lose All Emotional Connection With Your Life. That's a genius level of ethics, as far as I'm concerned.

Friendship - 2
Scott has many rich friendships, but he needs to lean on them more, spend more time with them.

Love Life - 4
How do you judge this? He's able to be honest with himself and women, so that he gets what he needs out of a relationship. He's able to freely love and be loved in return. He allows himself to be truly happy in a relationship, without screwing it up with fear and insecurity. And yeah, he hooks up with some of the hottest girls around. But his love life is SO volatile and often tragic. Which, I guess, makes it all the more real. So I'll give him a 4, meaning 'gifted'.

Hotness - 4
He's definitely sexy and strong--commanding without being overbearing. But the visor hurts him. Chicks dig eyeballs. Plus, he has that "uptight guy" stereotype he has to deal with. I would have given him a 3 based on that, but I think any woman that spends a little time with him begins to see more to him. They're drawn to him once they understand him better.

...Plus, he has magic sperm, so that's gotta count for something here.

[Porcelain]

Cyclops - I've stuck between two numbers with a lot of them, but you're doing averages so you can take it as ___.5.

Power ratings
Intelligence
Ability to think and process information 2-3 (He's not particularly clever, but he has developed strong cognitive strategism - which would have been )partially learning based.
2 Normal
3 Learned

Strength
Ability to lift weight 2-3 (bit more than him, but not twice that just seems silly, well I supose if he strained???)
2 Normal: Able to life own body weight
3 Peak Human: Able to life twice on body weight

Speed
Ability to move over land by running or flight
2 Normal


Durablity
Ability to resist or recover from bodily injury
2 Normal (suit's don't count :p & he hasn't been mentioned as having any enhanced healing properties so normal it is)

Energy Projection
Ability to discharge energy
5 Long range, long duration, single energy type (Mountains man Mountains)

Fighing Ability
Proficiency in hand-to-hand combat
4 Experienced fighter (as far as I know he's probably trained in a bunch of stuff, but I wouldn't call him a master of anything)

silvey categories: These are 1-7 too right?

Current Costume 4
Leadership 5 (sometimes he shows why he is a Leader, other times he's riddled with flaws - not least people management and self confidence issues)
Ethics 4 (he's a follower)
Friendship 2 (not the most open of types)
Love Life (I so want to put 1, but I don't know why) go with 3. Actually he's had more relationships than the majority of memebers and one long very stable one so he's not done too bad. Ok 5 (yes that's my final answer).
Hotness 4-5?

[slively]

Okay, as promised, today is a new character!! Thanks to Faded, I am going with Mercury this week!

Same ratings apply: they can be found Here (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2504353&postcount=1) Tell me how you see this character.

Rate Mercury!

[lament]

Mercury, hmmm? Okay:

Handbook Categories
Intelligence: 2
Strength: 2 (although I'm uncertain about this)
Speed: 3
Durability: 5
Energy Projection: 1
Fighting Skills: 3 (seems to have natural ability)

Other Categories
Current Costume: 2
Leadership: 2 (so far)
Ethics: 3
Friendship: 5
Love Life: 2
Hotness: 5

[loc_zsu]

Okay, as promised, today is a new character!! Thanks to Faded, I am going with Mercury this week!

Same ratings apply: they can be found Here (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2504353&postcount=1) Tell me how you see this character.

Rate Mercury!
erm who is mercury. i mumst admit i do not who this person is.

[slively]

erm who is mercury. i mumst admit i do not who this person is.


Mercury is one of the students at the school. She is part of the Hellions squad and can be found currently in New X-Men. Very cool character.

[Faded]

Okay, as promised, today is a new character!! Thanks to Faded, I am going with Mercury this week!

Same ratings apply: they can be found Here (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2504353&postcount=1) Tell me how you see this character.

Rate Mercury!

:D

Bumping up the topic since I already posted mine. :)

[Bryan Rios]

Heart Mercury! And heart slive for making Mercury the character this week!

The handbook categories:

Intelligence: 3
Strength: 2 (I would have said 3, but I do not believe there has been anything that indicates she could lift twice her body weight.)
Speed: 2
Durability: 5
Energy Projection: 1
Fighting Skills: 3

My categories:

Current Costume: 3
Leadership: 2
Ethics: 3
Friendship: 5
Love Life: 1 (Make the crush on Kevin go aaawaayyyyy!)
Hotness: 5

[loc_zsu]

Mercury is one of the students at the school. She is part of the Hellions squad and can be found currently in New X-Men. Very cool character.
thanks for that. ok then

Handbook Categories
Intelligence: 3
Strength: 2-3. im not sure about this.
Speed: 2 possibly 3.
Durability: 5
Energy Projection: 1
Fighting Skills: 3

Other Categories
Current Costume: 4
Leadership: 3
Ethics: 4
Friendship: 6
Love Life: 1
Hotness: 5-6

[twilight]

Fighting Skills - 4
Very experienced, but not a master of anything. What a slacker.

Isn't Cyclops a blackbelt in judo?

Feel free to slap me with a dueling glove if i'm wrong Nobs.

[xakko]

The handbook categories:

Intelligence: 2 (she fell for Hellion's BS, didn't she)
Strength: 3 (a guess based on her shape shifting abilities)
Speed: 2
Durability: 6
Energy Projection: 1
Fighting Skills: 3

slively categories:

Current Costume: 2 - not terribly thrilled with it
Leadership: 1 - she's a follower, and very insecure
Ethics: 2 - didn't seem to have much trouble selling out in the mini
Friendship: 5- seems very devoted to her team
Love Life: 1 - caught in a love quadrangle, never a good sign
Hotness: 4 pretty, but not over the top hot

[slively]

The handbook categories:

Intelligence: 2
Strength: 2
Speed: 2
Durability: 6
Energy Projection: 1
Fighting Skills: 2

slively categories:

Current Costume: 4 -
Leadership: 1 - she's a follower, and very insecure (agreed)
Ethics: 2
Friendship: 5- seems very devoted to her team (agreed)
Love Life: 1
Hotness: 5

[Faded]

Bump for Ms. Lively.

*wink wink nudge nudge*

[Kal]

Mercury? I don't know him/her. Can't we do the more popular characters first??? :p

[slively]

New character!

This time please rate Dazzler! Read the first post for the instructions.

[tangentman]

New character!

This time please rate Dazzler! Read the first post for the instructions.

Dazzler

Handbook categories:

Intelligence: 2 (would've been 3 if she'd finished college)
Strength: 2
Speed: 2
Durability: 2
Energy Projection: 5
Fighting Skills: 3

slively categories:

Current Costume: 3
Leadership: 2
Ethics: 3
Friendship: 4
Love Life: 3 (just needs one again, but usually hot stuff when she gets a man)
Hotness: 4 (lost a point for the pink punk-lesbo look)

[Uncle Nobs]

Isn't Cyclops a blackbelt in judo?

Feel free to slap me with a dueling glove if i'm wrong Nobs.
*SLAP*

Okay, I admit it. I slapped for no reason. I have no idea if he's a judo expert. Where did you hear he was?

Ew. My dueling glove is all Australiany.

[twilight]

Okay, I admit it. I slapped for no reason. I have no idea if he's a judo expert. Where did you hear he was?

Iunno.Somewhere.

Ew. My dueling glove is all Australiany.

You should be so lucky!

[Uncle Nobs]

For Slively's categories, I've included rating scales to keep things clear. Hope you don't mind, Slivers. Make changes as you see fit. :D



Current Costume:
1 - Moronic / Ugly / Dysfunctional
2 - Neutral / Average / Forgettable
3 - Functional & believable, but not especially impressive or stylish.
4 - Creative & true to character, but easily mangled by the wrong artist.
5 - Creative & true to character, even when drawn badly.
6 - Iconic (tells nearly everything about the character with just a glance). Works perfectly in print.
7 - Iconic. Just as believable & awe-inspiring in print as in reality. Can't be improved.

Leadership:
1 - Incompetent
2 - Average / Untested
3 - Capable / Some Experience
4 - Gifted / Experienced / Learned
5 - Genius / Very Experienced / Manages multiple scenarios & strategies.
6 - Superhuman: Precognitive
7 - Superhuman: Precognitive & Omniscient

Ethics:
1 - Unethical
2 - Honorable ideals, but untested ethics.
3 - Ethical, but inconsistent.
4 - Reliably ethical in most situations. Judgment affected by personal needs.
5 - Consistently ethical without personal needs affecting judgment.
6 - When faced with terrible choices, finds best solution. Makes sacrifices.
7 - Superhuman: Makes best choices using precognition, omniscience, etc.

Friendship:
1 - Sociopath
2 - Loner
3 - Meaningful friendships, with inconsistent loner tendencies.
4 - Multiple meaningful friendships. Consistently generous.
5 - The "heart" of multiple social groups. Gifted ability to reach people.
6 - Superhuman ability to promote localized brotherhood.
7 - Superhuman ability to promote widespread brotherhood.

Love Life:
1 - Mud: Look away lest ye be sucked into the horror.
2 - Dud: Can't get action. Wouldn't know what to do even if (s)he could.
3 - Bud: Gets action but ends up with, "Let's just be friends."
4 - Cold Blood: Gets action. Can't form relationships.
5 - Spud: Forms relationships. Hot action. Too picky. Too much baggage.
6 - Stud: Maintains passionate relationships. Genuine. Wide range of attraction.
7 - Scud: Look away lest ye be torn apart, your heart forever lost.

Hotness:
1 - Are--are you Cthulhu?
2 - Hm? Sorry. I didn't notice you there. At all.
3 - Can I get you a drink? No, no. You can't share mine. I need those. Yes, all of them.
4 - This is my last drink tonight. I don't think I'll be needing beer goggles.
5 - I'm looking forward to finishing this conversation tomorrow morning.
6 - Sorry I'm phoning you from across the bar. I can't really walk over to you right now.
7 - I have no hope. Have a nice night. Thanks for the masturbation material.

[Uncle Nobs]

Dazzler (616, of course)

Intelligence - 2.5
She's normal, but somewhat learned. The problem with Dazz's personal development is that her attitude gets in the way. She's a former law school student, but she spent much of her time wishing she wasn't. She's a former X-Man, but she spent much of her time wishing (sometimes outright whining) that she wasn't. I'm not insulting her. That's just who she is. She wants to be a star, and anything other than that is unsatisfying. The problem is that she can't accept the circustances of her life--however far from her dreams of stardom they may be--enough to commit to learning what she needs to survive in the position she's in.

Strength - 2

Speed - 2

Durablity - 3
Sorry, but it has been stated that ALL mutants recover from injury and illness slightly faster than humans. That's why characters with broken bones don't wear casts for endless issues. Some readers may not like it, but it's canon.

Energy Projection - 4
She fits somewhere between 3 & 6 because doesn't really fit the criteria listed. She's long-medium range (long for lasers & photons, medium for flash strobes & hypnotics), long-short duration (hypnotics & light shows can last an entire concert, lasers are short duration, & a single photon blast wipes her out completely), and multiple energy type (duh). I rounded down to 4 because she can completely spend her energy if she's not careful, putting herself in a near-coma state (UXM #217-218).

Fighing Ability - 3
With all her experience, she should be a 4, but she's a slacker. She refuses to learn things that don't interest her.

Current Costume - 3
It's not bad. She basically wants to be left alone & blend in, but she knows she's gotta be ready for anything. It's more than just dealing with the post-HOM world. She's trying to lose herself for some reason (lost her baby, lost an otherdimensional war, lost her husband...?). It's very street, very functional, very "piss off". Plus, I have no problem with the pink hair. In real life, it would look hot, and she's trying not to be recognized.

Leadership - 2
Untested. I'd imagine she'd lose focus and be easily swayed by her personal needs.

Ethics - 4
I love Ali, but we all know she's overwhelmed by her own needs. Way to be a bag lady, Dazz (UXM Annual #11).

Friendship - 4
Occasionally a loner. Falls out of touch regularly, but is just as close as ever with her friends when she catches up.

Love Life - 6
Sex with a three-fingered, leathery skinned, mulleted alien is pretty hot.

Hotness - 6
One of her stronger attributes.