Who is the 3rd horsemen? (spoilers!!)

[Blackcat]

So the first two horsemen are known now: Gambit and Sunfire. They said two X-Men would become horsemen, so of the 12 they showed Havok, Polaris, Beast and Moonstar are of the hook.

That means the 3rd one will be one of these characters: Ozymandias, Mystique, Erg, Dark Beast, Sabastian Shaw or Avalance.

Who do you think the 3rd will be and why or why not?

[milhouse123321]

I love Avalanche I hope it's him!!
And you should probably put their names in spoliers, right?

[Jake V]

So the first two horsemen are known now: Gambit and Sunfire. They said two X-Men would become horsemen, so of the 12 they showed Havok, Polaris, Beast and Moonstar are of the hook.

That means the 3rd one will be one of these characters: Ozymandias, Mystique, Erg, Dark Beast, Sabastian Shaw or Avalance.

Who do you think the 3rd will be and why or why not?
Does Sunfire really count as an X-Man? I dont think he's been on the team for a few decades.

I think Avalanche might be a possibility, only because it gives him something to do.

[twilight]

With powerups Shaw,Erg and Avalanche could be good horsemen.

[Will.S]

I can't really see Ozymandias as one since he's already been serving Apocalypse for so long. Doesn't really fit his motives either.

If that's an actual possible list I'd say Avalanche, Mystique or Erg have a better chance at being horsemen but I'd prefer none of them.

[Blackcat]

I don't see Shaw being one because he's in the upcoming Astonishing story-line.

Mystique is busy with Pulse and Rogue, so I don't see her join-in.

Ozymandias is on Apo's side all the time so he's no option too.

Dark Beast is a strong Villain on his own, so he will not join Apocalypse I guess.

That leaves Avalance and erg. I just don't see it happen with Erg. Can't tell why, but it wouldn't be a supprise. Also it would be the 3rd ex-morlock (after Plague and Caliban) to join his side, I just don't see it happen.

Guess that leaves Avalance. Who has a very scary power to start with and he's someone who joined bad guys before.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I just don't see it happen with Erg. Can't tell why, but it wouldn't be a supprise. Also it would be the 3rd ex-morlock (after Plague and Caliban) to join his side, I just don't see it happen.

Yes it would be a bit obvious, and certainly predictable. But then again it is Milligan writing this, right? I would be surprised if that didn't happen under the 'being ironic' (Lazy, surely) Tag.... :rolleyes:

[Cayman]

I'll say Avalanche because he's kind of the orphan of the Brotherhood now and needs to fit in somewhere.

Cay

[The Lucky One]

Not Ozymandias because, as others note, there'd be no point- no one cares about him anyway as anything other than a servant of Apocalypse, so it'd be anticlimactic to make him a Horseman. Avalanche is probably one of the most likely candidates- while, like Pyro, he's generally been portrayed as more of a thief/mercenary than a true murderous psychopath, that would make him a good candidate for brainwashing by Poccy into a more violent type. I'd say he's likely.

-D

[Nobbel]

I'm sure it is Avalance.

[Neolucifer]

So am i . There is no point making Beast and Shaw even more Evil .. they are pretty good villains on their own already .
While avalanche is pretty much currently a joke when alone , and the others arent credible for the previously mentioned reasons .

[Beast]

It's likely either Dark Beast or Avalance. Ozymandias is already Pocy's lackey, and En Sabah Nur has never tapped him for Horsemen status before. Shaw's going to be busy in Astonishing, and Mystique is likely to be joining the X-Men team. Erg seems unlikely, given he's already appearing in X-Men: The 198. So between the two that are left, Dark Beast seems the more likely. He got a save in the 198 Files, so one would think he'd be used at some point. Plus he was responsible for Pocy's Infinity Soldiers in the AoA and may jump at the chance to sign up with Pocy, to keep himself safe from Sinister. :)

[riotgear]

My guess is Dark Beast. His bio-chemistry and genetics background would make him an ideal Pestilence. Blob will become Famine, Gambit is Death, and Sunfire is War.

[Beast]

My guess is Dark Beast. His bio-chemistry and genetics background would make him an ideal Pestilence. Blob will become Famine, Gambit is Death, and Sunfire is War.
Problem there is that Marvel already said the 4th Horseman would be a New Character. :)

[riotgear]

Problem there is that Marvel already said the 4th Horseman would be a New Character. :)

Oh, I didn't hear that.

[Jon Waldrop]

Didn't Blob loose his powers?

[riotgear]

Didn't Blob loose his powers?

Hence, the deal he would strike as "Famine". Gambit's deal as "Death" is probably to be able to touch Rogue; I wouldn't be surprised if Moonstar also becomes a Horseman, probably as "War". Although, I think Sunfire will be "War", although he could also work as "Famine".

[Faded]

I'd like Blob to be Famine, but I don't think its going to happen. One more spot will be filled from one of the list of 12 and one I believe will be a new character.

[Nyssane]

Am I the only one who finds Blob too ridiculously silly to ever be as threatening as a Horseman should be? It was cute in Cable & Deadpool because it was supposed to be humorous, but I could never take Blob serious enough to be a Horseman of Apocalypse.

[xakko]

Judging by the spoilers over at LWW for X-Men 181... Polaris & Leper Queen

[Beast]

Judging by the spoilers over at LWW for X-Men 181... Polaris & Leper Queen
Yeah, I'd like to change my answers as well. It does seem likely they will be. :)

[Faded]

After reading those spoilers, here's what I'm speculating:
A) "AoA Sunfire" is either: Rogue or the Leper Queen (who is actually a mutant, not her deceased baby)

and/or

B) The latest cover hinted at the next horseman. Perhaps its Rogue and not Gambit?

[Blackcat]

After reading those spoilers, here's what I'm speculating:
A) "AoA Sunfire" is either: Rogue or the Leper Queen (who is actually a mutant, not her deceased baby)

and/or

B) The latest cover hinted at the next horseman. Perhaps its Rogue and not Gambit?


Where can I read those #181 spoilers of LWW? Does someone have a link? Because at the preview pages it doesn't say anything about it

[Jack]

Avalanche was bizarrely listed as one of the most dangerous mutants on earth in the 198 files. For that matter, so was Gambit. Would make sense if this was the reason why..

And yes, I know that Avalanche theoretically has an incredibly dangerous power, but so do plenty of other people who were ranked much lower. Firestar, for example, has gone toe-to-toe with Heralds of Galactus and has enough power to crack continents with one blast, yet was given an average ranking.

[fishtaco]

I think it's Dark Beast. I don't see Sebastion Shaw as one, because Whedon has him for AXM. David Hine has control of Erg right now, and Ozymandias would be a bad choice. He's Apocalypse's servant*, but he shouldn't be a horseman.

*Seeing Ozymandias work for Apocalypse is very odd. Apocalypse released Ozymandias from his servive in Cable 53. Since then, Ozymandias has tried to help Blaquesmith and Cable in killing Apocalypse, especially in X-Men: The Search For Cyclops 1-4. If editorial misses this, then I'll have to write them another letter.

[Beast]

Avalanche was bizarrely listed as one of the most dangerous mutants on earth in the 198 files. For that matter, so was Gambit. Would make sense if this was the reason why..

And yes, I know that Avalanche theoretically has an incredibly dangerous power, but so do plenty of other people who were ranked much lower. Firestar, for example, has gone toe-to-toe with Heralds of Galactus and has enough power to crack continents with one blast, yet was given an average ranking.
The threat scale isn't assigned just by raw power, but by the personality and past actions of the person it was linked to. Firestar typically wouldn't attack normal people with her powers, where as Avalanche would have no qualms about doing so. It's taking into account more than their powers, which is why Beast and Dark Beast have different threat ranks. :)

[Scipio72002]

The x-men #181 synopsis is in the forum part at livewireworld.com Under search put in X-men #181 and it should take you to it.

[PrimalScream]

i was hoping sabretooth would be one.

[We R. Venom]

Well it definately wont be Iceman. Even though he is semi back to normal(which is the only reason i kept buying this book) I dont think he is as strong quite yet. Definately not Horsemen materiaal.

[LeeAndrew]

I've been kind of out of the loop when it comes to the X-Men lately, but this sounds pretty interesting, has it been good so far? Also, what issue does this storyline start with?

[Flight]

I don't see Sebastion Shaw as one, because Whedon has him for AXM. Where was it confirmed that Sebastian Shaw was a regular in AXM?

[AceOfSpades]

So am i . There is no point making Beast and Shaw even more Evil .. they are pretty good villains on their own already .
While avalanche is pretty much currently a joke when alone , and the others arent credible for the previously mentioned reasons .
I agree. Avalanche needs a face lift from Apocalypse, he hasn't actually been intersting to read in like ---- never.

[fishtaco]

Where was it confirmed that Sebastian Shaw was a regular in AXM?A regular? Sebastion Shaw is in the new "hellfire club", and I dont think Whedon or the editors would appreciate it much if Milligan uses Shaw at the moment.

[Holland]

A regular? Sebastion Shaw is in the new "hellfire club", and I dont think Whedon or the editors would appreciate it much if Milligan uses Shaw at the moment. I presumed those that were seen with Emma were all in her mind!

[Jack]

The threat scale isn't assigned just by raw power, but by the personality and past actions of the person it was linked to. Firestar typically wouldn't attack normal people with her powers, where as Avalanche would have no qualms about doing so. It's taking into account more than their powers, which is why Beast and Dark Beast have different threat ranks. :)I know that. In fact I said that. But since when has Avalanche been that dangerous? He has a theoretically dangerous power, yes, but he's not exactly going around destroying cities or anything. Avalanche was ranked higher than people like Mikhail Rasputin and Omega Red, IIRC, and Gambit, Gambit was ranked up with them. And their rankings would make a hell of a lot more sense if it was hype for them becoming Horsemen.

[Sabre]

I know that. In fact I said that. But since when has Avalanche been that dangerous? He has a theoretically dangerous power, yes, but he's not exactly going around destroying cities or anything. Avalanche was ranked higher than people like Mikhail Rasputin and Omega Red, IIRC, and Gambit, Gambit was ranked up with them. And their rankings would make a hell of a lot more sense if it was hype for them becoming Horsemen.

Keep in mind that the government is supposed to have made these ratings, and they'd be right to worry about him. He's more powerful than he gets credit for, he cheerfully goes around destroying national monuments without breaking a sweat (the Eiffel Tower), he trashed an airport and has destroyed chunks of cities before, and might even know government secrets that they'd prefer he'd not know. He's also been more aggressive in recent years than he used to be. So yeah, it definitely makes sense that they'd think he's a major threat.

[X-Men Forever]

Who do you think the 3rd will be?

The 3rd Horseman was either Rick Flair or Arn Anderson, but I forget which?