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X-Men Forever
01-18-2006, 07:49 PM
Morrison definetly reinvented the franchise and for that, he gets my pick.

I am a big fan of reinvented comic book franchises for the most part, but everything that Morrison reinvented for the most part on X-Men I despised. I like Morrison's DC stuff, but his X-Men run stunk.

CURSD BLADE
01-18-2006, 07:57 PM
I am a big fan of reinvented comic book franchises for the most part, but everything that Morrison reinvented for the most part on X-Men I despised. I like Morrison's DC stuff, but his X-Men run stunk.

I find that alot of readers whom grew up on Claremont continuity and have a rich history with the X-Men didn't like Morrison's stream-of-consciousness, sci-fi approach to the series because it the anti-80's & 90's way of writing the team. It changed and experimented with many long-standing notions, relationships, and characters and ignored barriers set by tradition and strayed away from "playing it safe".

Not that its wrong to dislike what he did, but because I grew up on mid to late 90's X-Men, I only had a bunch of melodrama to use as my continuity, thus I was looking for experimentation in my X-Universe and Morrison was a breath of fresh air.

X-Men Forever
01-18-2006, 08:05 PM
I find that alot of readers whom grew up on Claremont continuity and have a rich history with the X-Men didn't like Morrison's stream-of-consciousness, sci-fi approach to the series because it the anti-80's & 90's way of writing the team. It changed and experimented with many long-standing notions, relationships, and characters and ignored barriers set by tradition and strayed away from "playing it safe".

Not that its wrong to dislike what he did, but because I grew up on mid to late 90's X-Men, I only had a bunch of melodrama to use as my continuity, thus I was looking for experimentation in my X-Universe and Morrison was a breath of fresh air.

This is an excellent way of explaining Morrison's X-Men run, good job. And what I find so strange is that when Morrison re-launched the JLA for DC in the mid 90's, he wrote them in his grand fashion while still keeping them superheroes. But when he wrote the X-Men, he turned them from superheroes into non-superhero Star Trek rejects.

CURSD BLADE
01-18-2006, 08:33 PM
This is an excellent way of explaining Morrison's X-Men run, good job. And what I find so strange is that when Morrison re-launched the JLA for DC in the mid 90's, he wrote them in his grand fashion while still keeping them superheroes. But when he wrote the X-Men, he turned them from superheroes into non-superhero Star Trek rejects.

I think it would be a stretch to call them "non-superheroe Star Trek rejects". They still maintained a level of heroism, protecting mutants and innnocence and ever those from other planets, yet they had more of an "edge" to use a cliched term. They were more a-moralistic. The X-Men have never been the "clean-cut boyscouts" of the Marvel Universe though, they always had a shady continuity and past. For a more pure, wholesome team, look towards Fantastic Four.

X-Men Forever
01-18-2006, 08:50 PM
I think it would be a stretch to call them "non-superheroe Star Trek rejects".

What I mean by this is that Morrison's X-Men looked more like a Star Trek episode, than a traditional superhero comic book.