The Comic Fanboy/Fangirl Mind

[Huh?]

There are certain things about fanboys that both fascinate and trouble me at the same time. When I read some of the posts on other parts of CBR about various comics and characters, and the person posting is proclaiming that "such and so author" is destroying a character as if the character could never possibly change. I always laugh when I read something like that. If you aren't able to just enjoy the stories, you probably should stop reading the book.

What other examples of fanboy behaviour can you think of? There are tons of examples...

Any that you want to own up to?...

[StoneGold]

Claiming someone else is a fanboy of a character. As in, "Your opinions don't count, you're just a Wolverine fanboy."

[Ed Cunard]

What other examples of fanboy behaviour can you think of? There are tons of examples...

The one I notice most is the fanboy/girl who want the entire industry to cater to his/her tastes.

Any that you want to own up to?...

In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since.

"Whenever you feel like criticizing anyone," he told me, "just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the stupidity to name their dog Kitty because of something they read in an early '80s X-Men comic."

-Ed Cunard. The Great Fanboy. Unpublished.

[StoneGold]

"Everything was better when I was 13. And it isn't because of nostalgia, or my changing tastes!"

[i_mmmchocolate]

How does a stereotypical fangirl act?

For some reason, I don't see myself fitting the stereotype completely. Yeah, I do own comic t-shirts, attend cons, read comics, watch cartoons from time to time, and wear glasses...but I'm not crazy about it.

[Slam_Bradley]

I no longer understand the drive for "completeness." Why spend money on a book you hate to keep your collection "complete?" It bugs me and defeats your purpose of trying to get the book to change directions.

[StoneGold]

How does a stereotypical fangirl act?

For some reason, I don't see myself fitting the stereotype completely. Yeah, I do own comic t-shirts, attend cons, read comics, watch cartoons from time to time, and wear glasses...but I'm not crazy about it.
If you've ever given Rob Liefeld a hummer...

[i_mmmchocolate]

I never understood that either, once I find I'm not enjoying a title I drop it-- even if I did have the extra cash to buy it.

[i_mmmchocolate]

If you've ever given Rob Liefeld a hummer...

So, I'm not a stereotypical fangirl.

[StoneGold]

So, I'm not a stereotypical fangirl.
Damn, there go my fantasies.

[Slam_Bradley]

So, I'm not a stereotypical fangirl.

Or fanboy, for that matter.

[StoneGold]

Or fanboy, for that matter.
You dropped for Scott Lobdell, didnt you?

[i_mmmchocolate]

Or fanboy, for that matter.

Hah!

Hell, I don't even think I'm a 'fangirl'- I haven't been following religiously for the longest time. I'm in retirement.

[tricksterpup]

Damn, there go my fantasies.
shh.. I think its still ok, I believe she still mud wrestles for money. You can keep your fantasies.

[StoneGold]

shh.. I think its still ok, I believe she still mud wrestles for money. You can keep your fantasies.
That's OK, now I'm fantasizing about Slam and Scott Lobdell.

[Slam_Bradley]

You dropped for Scott Lobdell, didnt you?


Be funnier if I had any idea who Scott Lobdell was.

[Rae Rodriguez]

There are certain things about fanboys that both fascinate and trouble me at the same time. When I read some of the posts on other parts of CBR about various comics and characters, and the person posting is proclaiming that "such and so author" is destroying a character as if the character could never possibly change. I always laugh when I read something like that. If you aren't able to just enjoy the stories, you probably should stop reading the book.

What other examples of fanboy behaviour can you think of? There are tons of examples...

Any that you want to own up to?...
That sort of behavior makes me hesitant to post about comics to begin with. It doesn't help that I've just returned to the wonderful world of comic books after a 15+ year haitus. :o I bought a few in my teens, or rather, I was given a few... but nothing I followed closely.
It was all about the artwork for me.

[i_mmmchocolate]

Be funnier if I had any idea who Scott Lobdell was.

Hilarious.

[Slam_Bradley]

That sort of behavior makes me hesitant to post about comics to begin with. It doesn't help that I've just returned to the wonderful world of comic books after a 15+ year haitus. :o I bought a few in my teens, or rather, I was given a few... but nothing I followed closely.
It was all about the artwork for me.


You can post on the Classics board. We're all very polite over there.



You have to bring your own Geritol though.

[Rae Rodriguez]

You can post on the Classics board. We're all very polite over there.



You have to bring your own Geritol though.
That's good to know. :)
In my old age I might forget the Geritol. :p Better tie a string round my finger.

[Huh?]

I no longer understand the drive for "completeness." Why spend money on a book you hate to keep your collection "complete?" It bugs me and defeats your purpose of trying to get the book to change directions.That's another good one. I love the guys that'll spend $75 to $150 for a variant cover only to find out that it is worth $5 3 years later - real good buy.

[StoneGold]

Be funnier if I had any idea who Scott Lobdell was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Lobdell

Basically, he wrote everything in the 90s for Marvel that Fabian Nicieza didn't.

[Forefinger]

There are certain things about fanboys that both fascinate and trouble me at the same time. When I read some of the posts on other parts of CBR about various comics and characters, and the person posting is proclaiming that "such and so author" is destroying a character as if the character could never possibly change. I always laugh when I read something like that. If you aren't able to just enjoy the stories, you probably should stop reading the book.

What other examples of fanboy behaviour can you think of? There are tons of examples...

Any that you want to own up to?...
It seems like many fanboys aren't fond of showering.

[i_mmmchocolate]

I don't attend panels at cons because some fanboys ask the most innane questions.

[Huh?]

What about dressing up at cons when you have to know it looks like crap. Anyone who wants to post an example, feel free.

[Slam_Bradley]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Lobdell

Basically, he wrote everything in the 90s for Marvel that Fabian Nicieza didn't.


Oh...ok. Wasn't sure if he was a writer or an artist. You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of Marvel books I read in the 90s.

[Huh?]

This thread has some real fanboy gold in it. Just the sort of thing that makes me die laughing. Read a few posts in, I bet you can't stop...

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=100135

[StoneGold]

Oh...ok. Wasn't sure if he was a writer or an artist. You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of Marvel books I read in the 90s.
Because you were using the other hand to pull a reach around on Lobdell?



Hey, like I said, it's a fantasy.

[tricksterpup]

I don't attend panels at cons because some fanboys ask the most innane questions.
"Will you go out with me?"
"Tell me about David Hasselhoff, is he really all that??"
"Would you like to see my starwars toy collection?"
"Would you like to come to my room in the basement at my folks?"
"Whats Nubian?"

[Huh?]

I don't attend panels at cons because some fanboys ask the most innane questions."In Issue 237, panel 26, of Superman, you have Jimmy Olsen use the word 'damn'. Was there any socio-political reason for this or were you just tired? I mean, I remember reading that and just being shocked. It was out of character for the guy... By the way, will you sign these 40 comics I brought with me so that I can sell them? Thanks."

[Noah Johnson]

For me, the definitive fanboy is one who would rather read a formulaic, emotionally flat story that fits with previous continuity than an inventive, exciting story that doesn't.

[Michael P]

The one I notice most is the fanboy/girl who want the entire industry to cater to his/her tastes.



In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since.

"Whenever you feel like criticizing anyone," he told me, "just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the stupidity to name their dog Kitty because of something they read in an early '80s X-Men comic."

-Ed Cunard. The Great Fanboy. Unpublished.
What about because of a Bill Wallace novel?

[Ed Cunard]

What about because of a Bill Wallace novel?

Brother!

Well, no. I don't know who Bill Wallace is. BUT STILL!

[K'Nort]

I think fanboy behaviour doesn't bother me as much as speculator behaviour.

I bought a really nice custom drawing at SDCC this year and the artist made a point of telling me what paints/etc he used for which parts for the eBay description. I've never sold anything. But they just assume that's our goal anymore.

[dougiemccoy]

How does a stereotypical fangirl act?

For some reason, I don't see myself fitting the stereotype completely. Yeah, I do own comic t-shirts, attend cons, read comics, watch cartoons from time to time, and wear glasses...but I'm not crazy about it.


you own comic tee shirts, read comics, attend cons, wacth toons, and you wear glasses...i would be in love if you was older and i was younger and good looking :)

[DarkBlade]

I think fanboy behaviour doesn't bother me as much as speculator behaviour.

I bought a really nice custom drawing at SDCC this year and the artist made a point of telling me what paints/etc he used for which parts for the eBay description. I've never sold anything. But they just assume that's our goal anymore.

This is part of why, especially with free ones, I ask for them to sign it to me (or person I'm getting it for) or have it in a bound book. Given my recent decision to make scrapbooks of them and the issue of leaving the whole dang book with someone, I go more for the former now.

[Gilda Dent]

My most treasured set of comics is my set of the first 13 issues of PS238. I ordered them direct from the publisher's web site, and when the arrived, each issue was signed and had a small face sketch of one of the characters by the writer/illustrator on the cover. He even was considerate enough to use a silver ink pen on the darker colored covers.

It was so sweet and unexpected.

I've attended conventions in costume, though I think I may forgo that practice this year, with turning 30 and all. At SDCC, Emily and I got really tired of guys wanting us to pose for pictures or have their picture taken with us to the point where we changed halfway through the first day just to get rid of the hassle. But we were there in costume for a while.

I can find any issue in my collection in a matter of minutes, they're that well catalogued.

I read comics to my first graders, the appropriate ones, anyway. Alison Dare, sure. Killer Princesses, not so much.

I quote dialog from the aforementioned Killer Princesses on a fairly regular basis, just because it seems so strange and nobody catches the reference but me.

Yeah, I think I qualify as a fangirl.

Gilda

[Paradox]

Huh? enters the confessional:

Any that you want to own up to?...

Well, I come HERE. :D

[thik_3rd]

I no longer understand the drive for "completeness." Why spend money on a book you hate to keep your collection "complete?" It bugs me and defeats your purpose of trying to get the book to change directions.
i think completeness stems more from consumerism/materialism than fanboyism.

[Rachel Grey]

You dropped for Scott Lobdell, didnt you?

Snicker. I on the other hand am waiting for Chris Claremont to do a con in Australia :p

[StoneGold]

Snicker. I on the other hand am waiting for Chris Claremont to do a con in Australia :p
Scott Lobdell is funnier though. Assuming you know who he is.

[Typo Lad]

If you get a bug up your bum about continuity, either for or against, you're a fanboy/girl.

[Lubichev]

It seems like many fanboys aren't fond of showering.
:D I've noted this before. I always leave the comic shop light headed from taking tiny breaths when getting my books. The need to make the isles a little wider.

[Ponda]

Be funnier if I had any idea who Scott Lobdell was.

Actually, if the answer to the question is "yes", then it's funnier if you don't.

[Forefinger]

:D I've noted this before. I always leave the comic shop light headed from taking tiny breaths when getting my books. The need to make the isles a little wider.
No offense meant to any of the heavier CBR posters, but damn. Some of the guys in the comic shops stink, and they are really fat, so yeah, bigger spaces and wider isles are needed. Also, some air purifiers might be a good idea. (I boycott shops that are too small to avoid rubbing up against fat, smelly fanboys)

[tricksterpup]

No offense meant to any of the heavier CBR posters, but damn. Some of the guys in the comic shops stink, and they are really fat, so yeah, bigger spaces and wider isles are needed. Also, some air purifiers might be a good idea. (I boycott shops that are too small to avoid rubbing up against fat, smelly fanboys)
hmmm. funny, I thought you enjoyed that kinda thing but with lots of Vaseline.

[Forefinger]

hmmm. funny, I thought you enjoyed that kinda thing but with lots of Vaseline.
Maybe that's someone's fetish. Fat, smelly, vaseline covered, fanboys in tight spaces! But not me, of course.

[StoneGold]

http://www.conmicro.cx/~kturtle/diaries/mfm02/photos/backoff-fanboy.jpg

[Typo Lad]

Niiiiiiice.

[StoneGold]

Niiiiiiice.
Much like the American Ninja, I possess... great skills.

[K'Nort]

Someone has too much self-esteem for her own good.

[Noah Johnson]

I can take bad spelling, and I can take misused quotation marks, but both at once is a lot to ask.

[Gilda Dent]

I can take bad spelling, and I can take misused quotation marks, but both at once is a lot to ask.

And missing punctuation.

Gilda

[Lubichev]

Is....are those.......I think that cat is wearing underpants.

[K'Nort]

Is....are those.......I think that cat is wearing underpants.

I'm scrubbing hardest at that particular memory, yes.

[Typo Lad]

Is....are those.......I think that cat is wearing underpants.

It's a skunk, actually. FiFi Lefume from Tiny Toons.

Crap.

maybe I am a Furry.

[Michael P]

It's a skunk, actually. FiFi Lefume from Tiny Toons.

That's about 700 kinds of disturbing.

Crap.

maybe I am a Furry.
So I take it Suze is a hairy girl?

[Typo Lad]

That's about 700 kinds of disturbing.

Hey, I watched a lot of cartoons, okay?

So I take it Suze is a hairy girl?

Wow.

You like living dangerously, eh?

I mean, calling her Suze?

Why not just roll in prime rib and enter a lion enclosure?

[Huh?]

Is that referring to the girl wearing it? Or the female skunk on it? Who is supposed to be saying what?

I think this shirt has more problems than just bad spelling.

[Lubichev]

Do you think she designed that shirt herself? I can see her now at the Arbrush kiosk discribing what she wants. "Okay. I want that skunk. You know, the one from Tiny Toons. Fifi somethin'. And I want her ass in the air, see. And don't forget to put pink drawers on 'er. No. No, she aint wearin' a top. And give her nipples too, but keep her chest hairy. Wha? Naw, man. It's gonna look awesome! And I've written down what I want it to say. Write it JUST LIKE THAT. No. Just like that. Punctu-what? Back off fanboy get your own girlfriend!"

[Noah Johnson]

Actually, from years of familiarity with furry art, (don't ask) I can tell you that Fifi is not, in fact, wearing underwear. Just that the shirt designer is no better at drawing asses than he or she is at punctuation.

[Lubichev]

So is it a fuck up or something? It looks like some sort of fabric. Unless it is supposed to be a wisp of her tail. :confused: :confused:

[Paradox]

I think in this case, Noah, you're just...well, wrong.

Quite obviously panties pulled down just below her cheeks. Nothing else it could be.

[StoneGold]

I think in this case, Noah, you're just...well, wrong.

Quite obviously panties pulled down just below her cheeks. Nothing else it could be.
That, or the world's widest, most deformed vaginal lips. So either their panties, or the artist has never actually seen a naked woman before.



OK, now I'm actually stumped as to which they are.

[Alex]

"Everything was better when I was 13. And it isn't because of nostalgia, or my changing tastes!"
That's my favorite one.

[Huh?]

That, or the world's widest, most deformed vaginal lips. So either their panties, or the artist has never actually seen a naked woman before.



OK, now I'm actually stumped as to which they are.
It really looks like her panties are pulled down off her ass cheeks. Like she is halfway ready for pepe lapew.

Also, maybe the artist needed something there to cover the labia. Naughty artist, drawing labia on a cartoon... really.

[Typo Lad]

It really looks like her panties are pulled down off her ass cheeks. Like she is halfway ready for pepe lapew.


Dude! He's like twice her age.

[StoneGold]

Dude! He's like twice her age.
More, if you take into account when he was created. But hey, if Tom and Katie can be happy together...

[Typo Lad]

More, if you take into account when he was created. But hey, if Tom and Katie can be happy together...

They must be happy. It has been ordained.

Also, pretty sure PePe and FiFi were related...

[StoneGold]

They must be happy. It has been ordained.

Also, pretty sure PePe and FiFi were related...
Pretty sure not. That was one of the things they were pretty specific about on Tiny Toons, none of the faculty or the students were related.

[Huh?]

They must be happy. It has been ordained.

Also, pretty sure PePe and FiFi were related...So maybe the girl wearing the shirt is making a statement about incest. I can see her being the product of it.

My theory holds water.

[Typo Lad]

Pretty sure not. That was one of the things they were pretty specific about on Tiny Toons, none of the faculty or the students were related.

It's interesting how Plucky and Buster got female counterparts, but no-one else did.

I wonder why...

[Huh?]

Here's something common to CBR. Check out this thread from the DC boards: Gail Simone is terrible (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=103796) The guy who starts it actually doesn't back down which I liked, but look at how many posters simply post just to suck up to Gail. Always makes me laugh.

PS - It is better when the guy that posted originally totally changes his mind when confronted by the creator. But I didn't feel like looking for a thread like that.

[Typo Lad]

I don't suck up to Gail.

I do however, maintain a healthy dose of fear.

This predates her professional career.

[Dan Apodaca]

Here's something common to CBR. Check out this thread from the DC boards: Gail Simone is terrible (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=103796) The guy who starts it actually doesn't back down which I liked, but look at how many posters simply post just to suck up to Gail. Always makes me laugh.

PS - It is better when the guy that posted originally totally changes his mind when confronted by the creator. But I didn't feel like looking for a thread like that.

I was almost going to say that I don't think pros should post in threads to defend themselves. And then I thought, "Hey, that's their perogative. It's just not what I would do."

But yes, the brownnosers in those threads are pretty silly.

[Huh?]

I was almost going to say that I don't think pros should post in threads to defend themselves. And then I thought, "Hey, that's their perogative. It's just not what I would do."

But yes, the brownnosers in those threads are pretty silly.I like when they do. What I don't like is when the person is too afraid to make their point after that. The guy in this one stuck by his guns and it turned into a good little conversation.

There are just so many people simply posting things like: "sad to see you go, Gail." and "you rock."

[Noah Johnson]

I think in this case, Noah, you're just...well, wrong.

Quite obviously panties pulled down just below her cheeks. Nothing else it could be.
On closer examination, my flawed color vision has betrayed me again. You're quite right, those are panties. My mistake.

[Mr.Manifesto]

i've bought comics that came without plastic covers, and i worried about whether or the sweat in my hands was damaging the cover while i was waiting in line to buy it. that's pretty bad.

[Huh?]

i've bought comics that came without plastic covers, and i worried about whether or the sweat in my hands was damaging the cover while i was waiting in line to buy it. that's pretty bad.f-ing hillarious!

[Paradox]

Mr.Manifesto would scream out loud:

i've bought comics that came without plastic covers, and i worried about whether or the sweat in my hands was damaging the cover while i was waiting in line to buy it. that's pretty bad.

One look at my collection and you'd probably have a massive stroke. :evilsmile

"And, OHMYGOD, why are these all over the FLOOR???"

[Corrina]

Or maybe those of us who hang out at YABS happen to like Gail for her posts and have a friendly feeling towards her because of that, much like those of you who don't know each other in real life get a kick out of each other's posts here.

Here's a recent example. Gilda started a thread about how she had problems with her job. Many of you expressed support for the problem caused by a parent who's more than a little off their rocker. (As it should be. That parents was dead wrong.) But I doubt any of you would consider that brownnosing.

It's just that in the case of Gail, the complainers show up at CBR.

I'm not saying I consider Gail a friend, because she's a pro running a message board and interacting with readers. I'm just saying her conduct on her board and her interaction with those of us who spend time there has earned her a lot of goodwill, completely aside from her professional career. I have the same feeling towards Chuck Dixon, whose posts at Dixonverse tend usually to be informative and funny.

Heck, Larry Dixon just popped in over at YABS and I took the opportunity to thank him for his work with his wife, Mercedes Lackey, and his cover art on many fantasy books. I don't consider that brown-nosing, just taking a unlooked for chance to let a writer know I appreciate his work.

Anyway, when someone goes off on a rant against Gail which has no basis, then I'm going to notice and respond. If you all consider that over the line...well....

:shrugs:

As for pros posting in threads about their work....most of the time I've found it very informative. I thought Kurt Busiek's participation in the black heroes thread, for instance, added a lot to the discussion.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

It's a skunk, actually. FiFi Lefume from Tiny Toons.

Crap.

maybe I am a Furry.

Well, now we won't ask who wrote those fan-fic stories you raging against on Comic Should Be good.

I now see that column less as a hilarious piece on out of contol fan boys, and more a self loathing cry for help.

[Noah Johnson]

Or maybe those of us who hang out at YABS happen to like Gail for her posts and have a friendly feeling towards her because of that, much like those of you who don't know each other in real life get a kick out of each other's posts here.
Yeah, I like Gail's style, but I don't actually read any of her comics.

[bodie_3_7_ci5]

Here's something common to CBR. Check out this thread from the DC boards: Gail Simone is terrible (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=103796) The guy who starts it actually doesn't back down which I liked, but look at how many posters simply post just to suck up to Gail. Always makes me laugh.

PS - It is better when the guy that posted originally totally changes his mind when confronted by the creator. But I didn't feel like looking for a thread like that.

You'll get a kick out of this thread from the DC boards too All Star Superman #2 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=103777)

A few pages in and the fan boy arguments begin. It's gold.

[king mob]

I don't attend panels at cons because some fanboys ask the most innane questions.


This is something Bob Wayne has commented on many times when he's visited the UK. He's said that sitting on panels in the US often leaves him in dispair at the banality of some of the questions ("how long is Batman's cape" is one example he quoted from a San Diego convention) compared with what he gets asked here.

Thats not to say we don't have our fair share of shite but there's a greater variety of more intellegent questions asked on panels from what i can pick up from Wayne and a number of other Americans who have come over.

Then again i was there at the UKCAC when Alan Moore was cornered in the bogs by fanboys and vowed never again to come to a comic convention.

[king mob]

No offense meant to any of the heavier CBR posters, but damn. Some of the guys in the comic shops stink, and they are really fat, so yeah, bigger spaces and wider isles are needed. Also, some air purifiers might be a good idea. (I boycott shops that are too small to avoid rubbing up against fat, smelly fanboys)


The old Forbidden Planet in Nottingham used to be just like that. On hot summer days especially, the shop would have this reek that would waft out from the shop and catch you long before you walked in.

It wasn't a nice place to shop but for a while it was the only comic shop in the city so it there wasn't a choice.

[king mob]

I like when they do. What I don't like is when the person is too afraid to make their point after that. The guy in this one stuck by his guns and it turned into a good little conversation.

There are just so many people simply posting things like: "sad to see you go, Gail." and "you rock."


My favourite comment is

"Don't worry, Gail. I'll always have your comics around so I can see you in Action any time I want to!
"

[Patient Boy]

I have to say that I've personally never encountered a guy in a comics shop who was morbidly overweight and smelled as though he'd never showered.

[Fabian]

I have to say that I've personally never encountered a guy in a comics shop who was morbidly overweight and smelled as though he'd never showered.
Must be nice to buy comics in Bizarro World

[Patient Boy]

Must be nice to buy comics in Bizarro World

Yeah. I must say CD's Finite Crisis is pretty good.

One of my friends who's more into gaming says he used to encounter a guy who looked as though he never bathed, although considering how much he spent at the shop he had to have some manner of income. Another friend says she thinks she might've encountered him sleeping at a bus stop in the middle of the night though.

[bodie_3_7_ci5]

My favourite comment is

"Don't worry, Gail. I'll always have your comics around so I can see you in Action any time I want to!
"

:D hilarious.

My favourite is the post responding to Gail's comment that she doesn't want to roast the guy

"Its too late, your loyal barbarion horde have already ripped him to shreds."

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

This is something Bob Wayne has commented on many times when he's visited the UK. He's said that sitting on panels in the US often leaves him in dispair at the banality of some of the questions ("how long is Batman's cape" is one example he quoted from a San Diego convention) compared with what he gets asked here.

Thats not to say we don't have our fair share of shite but there's a greater variety of more intellegent questions asked on panels from what i can pick up from Wayne and a number of other Americans who have come over.

Then again i was there at the UKCAC when Alan Moore was cornered in the bogs by fanboys and vowed never again to come to a comic convention.

I was at a panel when Bendis came down to Australia, and I actually slid down in my seat at one stage, because a fifty year old man, in a hawaiian shirt, sitting just in front of me, kept asking Bendis why there weren't more Australian superheros - Bendis joked his way through it, and then the guy put up his hand and asked "Why aren't there more Australian side kicks".
It was getting filmed at the time by the Con people, so if anyone ever comes across that footage on the net, I'm the guy who looks like he wants to kill himself sitting behind that man.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

This one page amused me from the Lying In The Gutters Board:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=97509

It seems that while one person may love something too much, another can hate it too much.

[K'Nort]

I have to say that I've personally never encountered a guy in a comics shop who was morbidly overweight and smelled as though he'd never showered.

Ditto, actually.

It's kinda disappointing.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

Ditto, actually.

It's kinda disappointing.

I wouldn't get to cut up about it, I never enjoy being in the shop with them, they depress me to no end.
It's their cliche that makes me apologise the first time a girlfriend or potential girlfriend see's that I've got comics.

[Sabrinaset]

My favourite comment is

"Don't worry, Gail. I'll always have your comics around so I can see you in Action any time I want to!
"

Wait a minute, that was MY comment!!! And I'll have you know that double entendre was deliberate! :)

[Vesper]

Here's something common to CBR. Check out this thread from the DC boards: Gail Simone is terrible (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=103796) The guy who starts it actually doesn't back down which I liked, but look at how many posters simply post just to suck up to Gail. Always makes me laugh.

PS - It is better when the guy that posted originally totally changes his mind when confronted by the creator. But I didn't feel like looking for a thread like that.

I'm sorry, but reading through that thread... the entire premise of the criticism is so ludicrous that yeah, someone should have called the original poster on it. Several people of them did; one just happened to be gail. She went out of her way not to respond to his negative criticism directly (even defending his right to make it), but simply pointed out the flawed logic in his main critique.

Do people react differently when confronted with celebrity? Sure. But I'd hope the same result would have happened with that thread regardless of whether or not gail had responded to it.

[king mob]

Wait a minute, that was MY comment!!! And I'll have you know that double entendre was deliberate! :)


It was?! Blimey, it was hard to tell if there was any irony in that thread, well done for adding some.

[king mob]

I was at a panel when Bendis came down to Australia, and I actually slid down in my seat at one stage, because a fifty year old man, in a hawaiian shirt, sitting just in front of me, kept asking Bendis why there weren't more Australian superheros - Bendis joked his way through it, and then the guy put up his hand and asked "Why aren't there more Australian side kicks".
It was getting filmed at the time by the Con people, so if anyone ever comes across that footage on the net, I'm the guy who looks like he wants to kill himself sitting behind that man.


Oh dear. That's nearly as bad as the chap i saw who went up to Dave Sim and asked if he could draw Wolverine for him. Sim allowed the guy the use of his legs.

[king mob]

This one page amused me from the Lying In The Gutters Board:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=97509

It seems that while one person may love something too much, another can hate it too much.

Oh i loved that thread. It was like watching a comedy routine unfold in front of your eyes.

[Paradox]

king mob gives me allusion room:

Oh dear. That's nearly as bad as the chap i saw who went up to Dave Sim and asked if he could draw Wolverine for him. Sim allowed the guy the use of his legs.

Well, I'll admit to telling Greg Land that I just LOVED his work on Harley Quinn, but I was joking. I did get the requisite exasperated "Are you a moron? That wasn't me." look, though, which literally made me laugh out loud :) And then of course I told him I was just kidding and got a bunch of stuff signed...

Sorry, Greg, it was too good to resist.

[howyadoin]

I'm sorry, but reading through that thread... the entire premise of the criticism is so ludicrous that yeah, someone should have called the original poster on it. Several people of them did; one just happened to be gail. She went out of her way not to respond to his negative criticism directly (even defending his right to make it), but simply pointed out the flawed logic in his main critique.I got a kick out of how the guy ran away once she poked holes in his logic.

[Huh?]

Or maybe those of us who hang out at YABS happen to like Gail for her posts and have a friendly feeling towards her because of that, much like those of you who don't know each other in real life get a kick out of each other's posts here.

Here's a recent example. Gilda started a thread about how she had problems with her job. Many of you expressed support for the problem caused by a parent who's more than a little off their rocker. (As it should be. That parents was dead wrong.) But I doubt any of you would consider that brownnosing.

It's just that in the case of Gail, the complainers show up at CBR.

I'm not saying I consider Gail a friend, because she's a pro running a message board and interacting with readers. I'm just saying her conduct on her board and her interaction with those of us who spend time there has earned her a lot of goodwill, completely aside from her professional career. I have the same feeling towards Chuck Dixon, whose posts at Dixonverse tend usually to be informative and funny.

Heck, Larry Dixon just popped in over at YABS and I took the opportunity to thank him for his work with his wife, Mercedes Lackey, and his cover art on many fantasy books. I don't consider that brown-nosing, just taking a unlooked for chance to let a writer know I appreciate his work.

Anyway, when someone goes off on a rant against Gail which has no basis, then I'm going to notice and respond. If you all consider that over the line...well....

:shrugs:

As for pros posting in threads about their work....most of the time I've found it very informative. I thought Kurt Busiek's participation in the black heroes thread, for instance, added a lot to the discussion.I don't think saying to a creator that you like their work is over the line at all. But if the thread is about a specific issue and a multitude of fans pop in to say "you rock" without commenting on the issue in the thread, then yeah that is funny.

Also, stating your opinion about someones work until they show up, and then completely changing your opinion - that is pretty classic fanboy if you ask me.

[Gail Simone]

In some ways, it IS kinda unfair for someone who worked on a book to pop in on a thread, uninvited, that's about their work. But if you do it, there's a right way and a wrong way...right way is come in, make your comment, don't be a complete ass, don't beg for adoration, don't look down on people, don't imply that readers who like your stuff should come in and squoosh someone who didn't, etc. etc. etc.

I wish I could say I always do it the right way, but sometimes I'll find a comment so bizarre or condescending that I react with snark, and usually end up regretting it.

But I got no problem with honest criticism, I enjoy hearing what people thought, good and bad. This particular case, what the guy was saying was so alien to what my actual motives were (and his facts were sadly askew) that I did react, but I wasn't trying to smersh the guy for not liking it, and I didn't want others to roast him, either, nor did I think "Gail Simone is Terrible" is such a big deal that the thread topic should be changed.

Anyway, I don't have all the answers. Do you? ;-)

Gail

[Lubichev]

GAIL, YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!


get it?

[Typo Lad]

Yes. Yes I do. They're in a locked book under my bed. Ironically, I've lost the key.

[Michael P]

Yes. Yes I do. They're in a locked book under my bed. Ironically, I've lost the key.
Which is a shame, because the answer to where you left it... is in the book.

[Typo Lad]

Which is a shame, because the answer to where you left it... is in the book.

sobs uncontrollably

Which beggers the question: Is there such a thing as controlled sobbing?

I'd look it up but...

Breaks down again

[Huh?]

In some ways, it IS kinda unfair for someone who worked on a book to pop in on a thread, uninvited, that's about their work. But if you do it, there's a right way and a wrong way...right way is come in, make your comment, don't be a complete ass, don't beg for adoration, don't look down on people, don't imply that readers who like your stuff should come in and squoosh someone who didn't, etc. etc. etc.

I wish I could say I always do it the right way, but sometimes I'll find a comment so bizarre or condescending that I react with snark, and usually end up regretting it.

But I got no problem with honest criticism, I enjoy hearing what people thought, good and bad. This particular case, what the guy was saying was so alien to what my actual motives were (and his facts were sadly askew) that I did react, but I wasn't trying to smersh the guy for not liking it, and I didn't want others to roast him, either, nor did I think "Gail Simone is Terrible" is such a big deal that the thread topic should be changed.

Anyway, I don't have all the answers. Do you? ;-)

GailIt definitely makes for interesting conversations if the fan is not too intimidated to continue their line of argument. And it is funny to see the mood change in the thread from negative to positive in the blink of an eye. The thread I used was actually pretty one sided in your favor from the beginning, but we've all seen a thread where everyone is bashing a book until one of the creators shows up.

What fanboy/girl behaviour makes you laugh? Got any "all time best questions ever" that you've been asked?

[Gaz]

I have on occasion quoted whole chunks of Whedon, Smith or Tarrantino dialogue.

But I don't like the way this thread seems to be skewing, it's verging on that practiceof trying to put other people who enjoy the same stuff you do down, because they come at it from a different angle. It's what I call "No, YOU're a geek, I'm a nerd, that's way better." behaviour.

[Lubichev]

"Be happy what you're geeking."

[Huh?]

I have on occasion quoted whole chunks of Whedon, Smith or Tarrantino dialogue.

But I don't like the way this thread seems to be skewing, it's verging on that practiceof trying to put other people who enjoy the same stuff you do down, because they come at it from a different angle. It's what I call "No, YOU're a geek, I'm a nerd, that's way better." behaviour.It's a place where we can all laugh at ourselves. I do stupid obsessive crap related to comics all the time. Sometimes I know I don't have to do it, but I still do.

But I still find it funny when other people do things.

For example, I know that I really have no reason to bag and board every comic, but I do it anyway. It is compulsive. I have to keep that issue of X-Men Adventures #1 in mint condition!

[Gaz]

It's a place where we can all laugh at ourselves. I do stupid obsessive crap related to comics all the time. Sometimes I know I don't have to do it, but I still do.

But I still find it funny when other people do things.

For example, I know that I really have no reason to bag and board every comic, but I do it anyway. It is compulsive. I have to keep that issue of X-Men Adventures #1 in mint condition!
I get that. But it's floating towards pointing and laughing at OTHER people, like the crack at YABS, which was totally uncalled for and insulting. If people want to own up to silly stuff THEY do, then cool, but don't mudsling is all I'm saying.

[Gail Simone]

It definitely makes for interesting conversations if the fan is not too intimidated to continue their line of argument. And it is funny to see the mood change in the thread from negative to positive in the blink of an eye. The thread I used was actually pretty one sided in your favor from the beginning, but we've all seen a thread where everyone is bashing a book until one of the creators shows up.

What fanboy/girl behaviour makes you laugh? Got any "all time best questions ever" that you've been asked?

Sometimes you get "Have you stopped beating your wife?" type questions, where the poster really only wants you to acknowledge that whatever it is that they're upset about is a huge crisis that needs to be addressed RIGHT NOW.

At any given time, we all have three or four people so obsessed with one topic that they can't even consider anything else.

Gail

[Huh?]

I get that. But it's floating towards pointing and laughing at OTHER people, like the crack at YABS, which was totally uncalled for and insulting. If people want to own up to silly stuff THEY do, then cool, but don't mudsling is all I'm saying.Who is Yabs? I don't see him posting here. :confused:

[Lubichev]

Who is Yabs? I don't see him posting here. :confused:
"You'll All Be Sorry."

[Huh?]

"You'll All Be Sorry."I'm sorry to be an idiot, but what are we talking about? What post #? I don't remember anyone insulting anyone else.

[Gaz]

I'm sorry to be an idiot, but what are we talking about? What post #? I don't remember anyone insulting anyone else.
The implication that those people who are nice to or praise Gail are simply sucking up. The comment that it happens here too bounces quite neatly on to that particular board and isn't exactly complimentary.

[Michael P]

I don't think he knows that YABS is the name of Gail's board.

[Huh?]

The implication that those people who are nice to or praise Gail are simply sucking up. The comment that it happens here too bounces quite neatly on to that particular board and isn't exactly complimentary.Oh well, I guess I don't really see that as being that stinging a criticism of someone. If we held everything on CBR to that standard, we'd have 3 threads to read.

[Huh?]

I don't think he knows that YABS is the name of Gail's board.Thank you. I didn't.

This discussion happened on the DC board, not YABS.

[Gaz]

Oh well, I guess I don't really see that as being that stinging a criticism of someone. If we held everything on CBR to that standard, we'd have 3 threads to read.
It's not the worst thing in the world, but suckup and brownnose aren't exactly terms of endearment.
I get that you didn't mean to come off like that, but it could read that way, and I'm not the only one who thought so, given the responses just after the subject was brought up.

[Huh?]

It's not the worst thing in the world, but suckup and brownnose aren't exactly terms of endearment.
I get that you didn't mean to come off like that, but it could read that way, and I'm not the only one who thought so, given the responses just after the subject was brought up.Fair enough. No harm intended by calling anyone a suckup. I consider most of us members of the same club anyway.