SPOILER: New Uncanny X-Men Writer!!

[Brian Cronin]

Ed Brubaker will be taking over Uncanny X-Men from Chris Claremont, starting in July's issue.

Discuss.

Note that this is all of you folks' second chance at this. If I see any sort of rude posting in this thread, I will be handing out some bans.

Oh, also, other stuff not to be in this thread:

1. "What's with all the hate?" posts. Those are awful. Do not post those.

Stuff that is okay:

1. "I am happy, because I like Brubaker/I am happy, because I do not like Claremont/I am not happy, because I do not like Brubaker/I am not happy, because I like Claremont."

That's cool.

Bashing Whedon, Morrison, Milligan, Casey, Austen, et. al. not cool (bashing period isn't cool, but you folks know what I mean...no "Why Claremont? Fire ____ instead!")

-Brian

[Twigglet]

Ed Brubaker will be taking over Uncanny X-Men from Chris Claremont, starting in what looks like May's issue.

Discuss.

Note that this is all of you folks' second chance at this. If I see any sort of rude posting in this thread, I will be handing out some bans.

-Brian

My beautiful beautiful thread :(

[Flight]

He starts in July.

[The Fury]

Wow...While I for one am very annoyed that Claremont is leaving. He has had a great run. And he still has New Excalibur to write.

I will look forward to Brubaker's Uncanny X-men and hope he does a good job.

[PerfectBrak]

While Claremont's stories were finally taking off, I think a fresh voice is what Uncanny needs. All of Brubaker's recent work has been stellar, he'll do an excellent job.

(Brian, I think he actually takes over with July's issue)

[Sentinel K]

For the second time. I am not particularly pleased with this news as I feel Claremont has just got into fith gear and his best storys of the run were yet to come so I'm dissapointed we won't get more.

However, I am pretty sure that Brubaker will do a sterling job on the title.


Peace

[wader0069]

I just want CC to finish his Psylocke resurection story. She always gets messed up when he leaves in the middle of her plot. Then hopefull Ed will have the same great writing CC has, and it will all be gravy..... :D

EDIT: I didn't do it this time, it wasn't me. No sir, it wasn't....

[mattbib]

I am both disappointed and delighted at the same time. :)

[Flight]

I am so pleased Ed brubaker is on Uncanny. :)
I have enjoyed Claremont's work but its time for a fresh writer to come on.

Looking forward to this! :)

[Twigglet]

I can't wait.

I havn't liked Claremonts run, so this should be my first real chance to get Uncanny monthly :)

[The Lucky One]

I'm wondering whether Claremont will have time to wrap everything up. Two issues to resolve Betsy's resurrection and the mystery of Jamie Braddock and the Jaspers/Fury amalgam is not a lot of time. Guess we'll see how it plays out.

-D

[Beast]

I'm wondering whether Claremont will have time to wrap everything up. Two issues to resolve Betsy's resurrection and the mystery of Jamie Braddock and the Jaspers/Fury amalgam is not a lot of time. Guess we'll see how it plays out.

-D
It's actually 3-issues. :)

The Jaspers/Fury amalgam won't play out until some point in New Excalibur.

[Flight]

I'm wondering whether Claremont will have time to wrap everything up. Two issues to resolve Betsy's resurrection and the mystery of Jamie Braddock and the Jaspers/Fury amalgam is not a lot of time. Guess we'll see how it plays out. The solicitation says the arc is 3 issues long and I'd take a stab that Claremont gets an issue or 2 afterward.

[streator]

well, i can't remember everything i said in the other thread, but i am looking forward to brubaker writing uncanny x-men.

[Beast]

I'm sad to see Claremont go, because he's finally hitting his stride and finding his voice again. His HoM and Decimation work has been top notch so far, and I was looking forward to where he was going with things. I'm going to try to remain positive until we hear what Joey Q says on Friday though. Hopefully the main cast characters that arn't used in Uncanny and X-Men can be shuffled off into another book instead of slipping away into limbo again. And we'll just have to wait and see what is in the future for Claremont. :)

[Twigglet]

I'm sad to see Claremont go, because he's finally hitting his stride and finding his voice again. His HoM and Decimation work has been top notch so far, and I was looking forward to where he was going with things. I'm going to try to remain positive until we hear what Joey Q says on Friday though. Hopefully the main cast characters that arn't used in Uncanny and X-Men can be shuffled off into another book instead of slipping away into limbo again. And we'll just have to wait and see what is in the future for Claremont. :)

Are Thunderbird/Lifeguard X.S.E members?

If so, I see Bishop, Magma, Thunderbird, Lifeguard in thier very own X.S.E book soon.

[Beast]

The solicitation says the arc is 3 issues long and I'd take a stab that Claremont gets an issue or 2 afterward.
Since Brubaker doesn't jump on til July, that's likely. Since Uncanny #472-474 will be the Psylocke/Jamie Braddock wrap-up taking us into May. Then we have June for another issue or two before July hits. :)

[Beast]

Are Thunderbird/Lifeguard X.S.E members?

If so, I see Bishop, Magma, Thunderbird, Lifeguard in thier very own X.S.E book soon.
Well, Thunderbird and Lifeguard did get saves in the 198. So it's possible we could see another 'X-Treme' type of book, given that Civil War is supposed to shake things up a bit. And Mike Marks said that Karima the Omega Sentinel is supposed to turn up in June also. So she could be a cast member of it also. :)

[The Fury]

The Jaspers/Fury amalgam won't play out until some point in New Excalibur.
The Omniverse is doomed.

DOOMED I TELLS YA.

[Twigglet]

Well, Thunderbird and Lifeguard did get saves in the 198. So it's possible we could see another 'X-Treme' type of book, given that Civil War is supposed to shake things up a bit. And Mike Marks said that Karima the Omega Sentinel is supposed to turn up in June also. So she could be a cast member of it also. :)

I think it's entirely likely we'll see a book featuring Lifeguard/Thunderbird/Karima then. Possibly Warren as well, as Claremont had a plan for him in Excalibur.

[Beast]

It would certainly make the loss of CC on Uncanny hurt a bit less. Especially if the Editors give him a chance to play without smacking his stories around like a red-headed stepchild. :)

[Fede]

i've only read two issues from brubaker, so i dunno what to think

[Novaya Havoc]

<sings a musical hit>

ding dong claremont is gone
i'm not that sad; he was so bad
ding dong mister claremont is goooone
he has just one shot left
don't blow Excal, (too late for that!)
ding dong mister claremont is gone!

</end wizard of oz tribute>

Eh, it was past his time. Bring on the Brubaker and maybe Uncanny will become interesting again.
Now more than ever CC needs to nail Excal, and he can start by, you know, fixing some of the cosmetic problems in that tile. :P

[Beast]

There's something cosmetically wrong with New Excalibur? I haven't noticed anything.
Everyone looks and is written great, especially pink-haired Dazzler. :)

[Jellobay]

I like how this thread is now civil. :)

It is like your parents just entered the room or something.

I hope Claremont all the best in the future. :) And hopefully he will have a chance to write other Marvel key players. Wouldn't a Claremont Spidey run be cool. :)

Ed is doing a wonderful job on Cap. I was not a fan of that title until he took over the rains. He as earned my respect and I look forward to his run. :)

[Sentinel K]

I like how this thread is now civil. :)

It is like your parents just entered the room or something.

I hope Claremont all the best in the future. :) And hopefully he will have a chance to write other Marvel key players. Wouldn't a Claremont Spidey run be cool. :)

Ed is doing a wonderful job on Cap. I was not a fan of that title until he took over the rains. He as earned my respect and I look forward to his run. :)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Too many smilies!!!!!!!!

*brain cell melts*

[Chiasm]

Brubaker could be good on Uncanny. I'm just sad it means Chris has to go since Uncanny right now is far and away the most enjoyable X-book out there.

[moebius]

I'm happy with the addition of Brubaker to the core books. I'm unhappy with the subtraction of Claremont from the core books.

Do the math.

[slively]

I am disappointed, because for the first time I am actually enjoying Uncanny. Pre-HoM I did not.

I am also enjoying Brubaker's Deadly Genesis so far. He is a good writer and I will give him a chance. I do hope that Claremont has time to finish the story he is currently telling, without having to cut corners to the extent that it botches the reader's enjoyment.

[Nick Kal]

Brubaker on an X-Title will be Killer. :D

[Jellobay]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Too many smilies!!!!!!!!

*brain cell melts*

Was that a quick burn. :evilsmile

Just kidding dude. :)

[xmanson]

Brubaker on an X-Title will be Killer. :D


It already killed the chances of me buying Uncanny (and any other core book) past June.

Not so much because of Brubaker himself, but because I think I've found a jumping off point. Well, Deadly genesis didn't really impress me ( I fucking hate storylines with secret dark oh-my-god-I-can't-believe-it retcons, specially if it's leading to anothe Xavier is evil one), so it's nothing I should be willing to give a chance that much. I was gonna do this when Davis' left, but decide to stick at least until the Jamie storyline got finished. And considering the other core books have been horrible, to put kindly, no really need to go on with this.

The books have been a lite stale for years now. I feel I've read everything I want with these charcaters.And my favorite one was removed from the books and stuck in another of Marvel big events that get erased by the next year's big event. So reading the x-titles is not that fun anymore. The spin offs still hold some promise, so I'll stick around for some of those.

[Nick Kal]

That wasn't what I meant by killer... hehe... I meant awesome!!!

And Beast, I think we all know that Dazzler with pink hair is not something that Novaya likes and the fact that you distinctly picked that out about Excalibur's cosmetics was a little trollish..

[Jellobay]

It already killed the chances of me buying Uncanny (and any other core book) past June.


You will be missed. :(

[DDM]

I already wrote a letter to Marvel about my disappointment Chris Claremont is off Uncanny X-Men again for the third time in his career. I'm not so sure I will be buying Uncanny X-Men when Brubaker debuts on the book. This decision will force me to further cull more Marvel books in the long term.

[Nick Kal]

I already wrote a letter to Marvel about my disappointment Chris Claremont is off Uncanny X-Men again for the third time in his career. I'm not so sure I will be buying Uncanny X-Men when Brubaker debuts on the book. This decision will force me to further cull more Marvel books in the long term.

He arrives...

You worte a letter to Marvel? Wow, that is like uber-nerd status. Good job!

[Brian M.]

I don't understand what everyone is getting so upset about. Claremont was given his chance to tell his FULL STORY. Why not bring in another writer after Claremont is done?

[Jellobay]

I already wrote a letter to Marvel about my disappointment Chris Claremont is off Uncanny X-Men again for the third time in his career. I'm not so sure I will be buying Uncanny X-Men when Brubaker debuts on the book. This decision will force me to further cull more Marvel books in the long term.

You will be missed also. :(

*** checks DDM off the list ***

[Chiasm]

I'll still be reading Uncanny when Brubaker comes on. Brubaker has forced me to start picking up Captain America again and so far I'm liking deadly genesis. So I don't expect the quality to drop off at all. At least us Chris fans in mourning can take solace that Uncanny is in good, if different, hands.

[DDM]

I don't understand what everyone is getting so upset about. Claremont was given his chance to tell his FULL STORY. Why not bring in another writer after Claremont is done?

And he should be able to tell more stories in Uncanny X-Men.

[DDM]

He arrives...

You worte a letter to Marvel? Wow, that is like uber-nerd status. Good job!

Writing to the editors is a good barometer to let them know you feel. Nothing "nerd" about it.

[Nick Kal]

Writing to the editors is a good barometer to let them know you feel. Nothing "nerd" about it.

Well I didn't mean that as a bad thing.

[Nyssane]

I got all excited and then I realized Uncanny wasn't Excalibur, which means Dykeler lives and Novaya will continue to vent his angry fanboyisms on me. :(

NOT THAT I DON'T LOVE IT, BENNYLIN! <3

[Adem]

I already wrote a letter to Marvel about my disappointment Chris Claremont is off Uncanny X-Men again for the third time in his career. I'm not so sure I will be buying Uncanny X-Men when Brubaker debuts on the book. This decision will force me to further cull more Marvel books in the long term.

Even though I like the fact Brubaker is going to be on Uncanny it is good to see fans trying to make their voices heard instead of just complaining on a message board. Good job DDM.

[AnthonyJ]

I don't understand what everyone is getting so upset about. Claremont was given his chance to tell his FULL STORY. Why not bring in another writer after Claremont is done?

The people most likely to post in a thread like this are those who feel strongly about it. I'm not particularly upset, and I'm also not thrilled.

[xmanson]

Okay, well as long as it wasn't your intention.. but I truly do think his ode was just his opinion...


Novaya is a guy?

We learn something new everyday...

[Novaya Havoc]

I got all excited and then I realized Uncanny wasn't Excalibur, which means Dykeler lives and Novaya will continue to vent his angry fanboyisms on me. :(

NOT THAT I DON'T LOVE IT, BENNYLIN! <3

Damn right you love it. Viva la Dazzler... sexiest male X-Man of 2006!

EDIT: Yes, I am a guy. Did my little Indian girl avatar throw you all for a loop? :p

[xmanson]

Damn right you love it. Viva la Dazzler... sexiest male X-Man of 2006!

EDIT: Yes, I am a guy. Did my little Indian girl avatar throw you all for a loop? :p


Not really.

:P

[Babylon23]

Well, I'm in 2 minds about this. I love Claremont's X-Men, and have really enjoyed the title since he came back. In this respect, I'm sad to see him go.

However, Claremont works best when he is in charge of the x-titles. This is why his initial run is so memorable, and why X-Men: the End has been so good. With Uncanny, he's been sharing the franchise with Austen/Milligan and Whedon. Plus, his storylines have been disrupted by x-overs and changes in editorial planning.

In this respect, I think him leaving might be a good thing, especially if he's given his own niche in the x-universe to play with. Excalibur is a good start in this respect, given it's geographical seperation from the main x-titles. Personally, I'd like to see him take Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Marvel Girl and Psylocke over to Excalibur, and continue his stories there. Obviously, this won't happen while Whedon has Kitty, and I'm sure Nightcrawler will stay in Uncanny, but I can still hope.

Of course, he'll also need a good editor to work with (unlike X-Treme and it's 5 editors in 40 issues).

In the meantime, there's also the new series that we all voted for at Marvel.com.

As for Brubaker, I'm definitely a fan of his work in gerenal (especially Gotham Central and Cap). However, Deadly Genesis, while solid, hasn't exactly blown me away. Still, I'll check out his first couple of issues to see how he goes.

[Jellobay]

As for Brubaker, I'm definitely a fan of his work in gerenal (especially Gotham Central and Cap). However, Deadly Genesis, while solid, hasn't exactly blown me away. Still, I'll check out his first couple of issues to see how he goes.

I think Deadly Genesis is more of the X-editors wanting that mini and Ed trying to get his foot in the X-door. :)

[Babylon23]

I think Deadly Genesis is more of the X-editors wanting that mini and Ed trying to get his foot in the X-door. :)

Possibly. I can understand both him and Marvel wanting to test the waters before committing to the title full-time.

[Keith_Martineau]

I'm glad that Claremont gets to finish this storyline before he leaves.
I'm sad that he's leaving... But really, how long can we hold on? He's still got New Excalibur. Brubaker is a good writer who is already proving he can do good things with the X-Men, so it's not a bad change.

But also, we don't know the full scoop on this yet. Maybe Claremont is moving to X-Men and Milligan is the one who is out? Milligan's recent interview did not indicate any of his future plans for the title. Maybe Claremont wanted to leave, after finishing the Jamie Braddock storyline, which is what started his third run in the first place.

Hell, maybe he's becoming an Editor ;)
We won't know for a few days what the full deal is anyway. But things could be worse.

[streator]

another thing i mentioned in the previous thread:
i hope a new artist comes on the book as well with brubaker. i like the majority of bachalo's work, but i would prefer to see someone else paired with brubaker. seeing the x-men unlimited colossus cover in the april solicts makes me hope that leinel francis yu might be coming back to the x-books, and if so i hope he's coming to work on uncanny.

[Beast]

I'm sure we'll get a new artist as well, which will be good. If anyone though, it will probably be someone that Brubaker has worked with recently. Who was the primary artist on Captain America?

[Doom Hammer]

I'm sure we'll get a new artist as well, which will be good. If anyone though, it will probably be someone that Brubaker has worked with recently. Who was the primary artist on Captain America?

Steve Epting. But he's way too slow to take on another book. No offense to him, he's great, but even Brubaker said his max is around 8 issues per year.

I'm gonna post here what I posted in LiveWire World...

Claremont for the longest time has been saying that his maxi-arc would be resolved by around #475, and that's exactly when he's leaving. So, from a positive point of view, he's not exactly getting cut off from his story. He'll get to finish it.

Secondly, who's to say he wants to write more X-Men after this arc? Or at least, more Uncanny X-Men. He definitely had a long-term goal in mind when he came onto the book, and in spite of its occasional faltering, it's been pretty cohesive and fluid, as maxi-arcs are concerned. Maybe that's all he has in mind for the X-Men for now. Think of Frank Miller when he wrote Born Again: he came on, did his thing, and left before he could get stale. That's what Claremont could very well be doing, except on a larger scale.

Don't get me wrong, Claremont's been good, even spectacular at most times. But time-wise, he's a long ways away from his definitive run. There'd be nothing worse than him ruining his reputation by overstaying his welcome, and continuing to write after he's out of ideas for the book.

He'll be back. Milligan's not gonna last much longer, and we all know Whedon's run is limited (but stretched out). It's not as though he's lost his chance at the X-Men. Think of this as Claremont moving on after doing his thing, to return on a different book later.

And then think about Ed Brubaker writing the Uncanny X-Men, while writing Books of Doom, Captain America, Daredevil, and Deadly Genesis, and then salivate. I know I willl, all respect to CC.

And best wishes to him. He'll be around.

[DDM]

Steve Epting. But he's way too slow to take on another book. No offense to him, he's great, but even Brubaker said his max is around 8 issues per year.

I'm gonna post here what I posted in LiveWire World...

Claremont for the longest time has been saying that his maxi-arc would be resolved by around #475, and that's exactly when he's leaving. So, from a positive point of view, he's not exactly getting cut off from his story. He'll get to finish it.

Secondly, who's to say he wants to write more X-Men after this arc? Or at least, more Uncanny X-Men. He definitely had a long-term goal in mind when he came onto the book, and in spite of its occasional faltering, it's been pretty cohesive and fluid, as maxi-arcs are concerned. Maybe that's all he has in mind for the X-Men for now. Think of Frank Miller when he wrote Born Again: he came on, did his thing, and left before he could get stale. That's what Claremont could very well be doing, except on a larger scale.

Don't get me wrong, Claremont's been good, even spectacular at most times. But time-wise, he's a long ways away from his definitive run. There'd be nothing worse than him ruining his reputation by overstaying his welcome, and continuing to write after he's out of ideas for the book.

He'll be back. Milligan's not gonna last much longer, and we all know Whedon's run is limited (but stretched out). It's not as though he's lost his chance at the X-Men. Think of this as Claremont moving on after doing his thing, to return on a different book later.

And then think about Ed Brubaker writing the Uncanny X-Men, while writing Books of Doom, Captain America, Daredevil, and Deadly Genesis, and then salivate. I know I willl, all respect to CC.

And best wishes to him. He'll be around.


What if Claremont decides to sign to DC Comics for an exclusive contract?

[Flight]

What if Claremont decides to sign to DC Comics for an exclusive contract? Then bye bye Excalibur lol

[Doom Hammer]

What if Claremont decides to sign to DC Comics for an exclusive contract?

Then that's his personal choice, and I hardly see him as the victim of that transaction. Good for him, then.

[Beast]

What if Claremont decides to sign to DC Comics for an exclusive contract?
I wouldn't really mind seeing him write something 'Non-X-Centric' again. :)

[atoningunifex]

I'm actually kinda relieved at this.

I've been buring Uncanny because, in general, I'm a Claremont fan. But I've not been a real X-fan in months. The return of the mega crossovers, the character shuffling, the disappointing fill-in artists, all of this has contributed to a general malaise on my part.

When Claremont came back in 2000 there was a real sense of something interesting in the books- for about two months. And then editorial mismashes, crap art, dropped storylines and sqaushed plotlines contributed to a general mess. Morrison's X-Men and Claremont's X-Treme rose out of that and were amazing. For a good three years we had a cohesive universe that was moving forward. There was a palpable energy that I just loved.

But after Morrison left and the editorial poisition started swinging back to 90s gimmicks, I started being discontent again. I've liked Claremont's Uncanny, but I haven't loved it. I hated the Genosha Excalibur. I dropped X-Men months ago. I've been holding on to Uncanny ever since.

And now they're replacing Claremont. And I don't know Brubaker. I know I'm no fan of what I've heard about Deadly Genesis. And while that isn't indicative of his writing style, it is indicative of Marvel continuing to look backward instead of forward.

So I'm kinda relieved. Claremont's going and I can give up the X-Men again.

Guess I didn't survive the experience.

[tjarvis]

What if Claremont decides to sign to DC Comics for an exclusive contract?

Then we'd get more stuff like his Justice League arc or Sovereign Seven or his adaptation of Gen 13. To be honest, he hasn't exactly lit the world on fire with his non-Marvel stuff. The Marvel U just seems like a better fit for Claremont's sensibilities.

And losing him wouldn't cripple Marvel. They've got plenty of talented writers who can fill the titles that Claremont is working on. Hell, I'd love to see Dan Slott or Christopher Priest given a shot at an X-title.

Which is not a dig on Claremont, I enjoy his work. It just wouldn't be the end of the world.

[Callie]

My exposure to Brubaker's work is limited to two issues on the new X-Men mini. So I can't honestly say whether or not I will like him better than Claremont.

However, I am not a big fan of Claremont's work and think that bringing in a new writer to Uncanny X-Men will help liven things up a bit. I will probably pick up Uncanny in July/August and see if it's something I'd want to pick up regularly.

[Jake V]

What if Claremont decides to sign to DC Comics for an exclusive contract?
The Tenth Circle part 2!!!! The JLA fights even more vampires! The Doom Patrol shows up again and it makes even LESS sense!! Batman makes even more uncharacteristic jokes! Imagine the possibilities!

[Jellobay]

The Tenth Circle part 2!!!! The JLA fights even more vampires! The Doom Patrol shows up again and it makes even LESS sense!! Batman makes even more uncharacteristic jokes! Imagine the possibilities!

That made me laugh. :)

Thanks Jake. :)

[sandy1978]

Chris had some good runs and some bad runs. Lately his issues have had mne begging for more. I think he has gotten better as the corp of talent around him has improved. I really enjoyed Eds Sleeper series and I am looking forward to his Uncanny run but I would have rather seen him take over Peter Milligians X-men book that just sucks. The first what was it five issues of the Golgath was a waste of time.

Well we should all realize that this is not the end of Chris on Uncanny he will be back as he always comes back. Cheers Chris!

[Blade X]

The Tenth Circle part 2!!!! The JLA fights even more vampires! The Doom Patrol shows up again and it makes even LESS sense!! Batman makes even more uncharacteristic jokes! Imagine the possibilities!

CC only scripted that JLA. He did NOT plot that story, Byrne did.

[Jake V]

CC only scripted that JLA. He did NOT plot that story, Byrne did.
The script wasn't anything to brag about either.

[SnakeEater]

im rusty but isnt brubaker the dude writing Deadly Genesis right now?

[DDM]

The Tenth Circle part 2!!!! The JLA fights even more vampires! The Doom Patrol shows up again and it makes even LESS sense!! Batman makes even more uncharacteristic jokes! Imagine the possibilities!

John Byrne is responsible for JLA's The Tenth Circle. All Claremont did was script to John Byrne's plot.

[X-Men Forever]

im rusty but isnt brubaker the dude writing Deadly Genesis right now?

Nice to meet you rusty.

[DDM]

im rusty but isnt brubaker the dude writing Deadly Genesis right now?

He does all those Walking Dead comics. Hopefully, we won't get zombie X-Men in Uncanny X-Men.

[Jake V]

John Byrne is responsible for JLA's The Tenth Circle. All Claremont did was script to John Byrne's plot.

The script wasn't anything to brag about either.

Yes, I know.

[X-Men Forever]

Well we should all realize that this is not the end of Chris on Uncanny he will be back as he always comes back. Cheers Chris!

Claremont is not getting any younger, so I bet this is his last Uncanny go around folks.

[Jake V]

He does all those Walking Dead comics. Hopefully, we won't get zombie X-Men in Uncanny X-Men.
Robert Kirkman does Walking Dead. He also does Marvel Zombies and Marvel Team-Up.

Brubaker writes Captain America, and will soon write Daredevil. He used to write Sleeper and the Authority for DC/Wildstorm and Gotham Central and Detective Comics for DC.

[Will.S]

Cookies for all everyone!

[Novaya Havoc]

I liked the Dazzler part of this discussion better. Less heated.

[Faded]

I liked the Dazzler part of this discussion better. Less heated.

You and Nyssane have similiar avatars! That's adorable! I think male Dazzler and female Dazzler should hook up! :D

[Keith_Martineau]

Yeah, I dunno that there'd be something thats a good fit for Claremont over at DC or Wildstorm. Gen 13, really read like a bad X-Men parody/wannabe. Stop and think about THAT one for a sec and realize how sad it is.

I have The Tenth Circle in trade, and it wasn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Wasn't great, but I definately attribute most of it to Byrne. But make no mistake, that was Claremont dialogue. No two ways about it. And some of it was a little hammy.

And I will say again, we do NOT know the story yet. Claremont may infact just be leaving, not being replaced.

[X-Men Forever]

And I will say again, we do NOT know the story yet. Claremont may infact just be leaving, not being replaced.

Either way, it's the nature of the comic book industry in today's market. Artists and writers making over a 2-3 year run on a title is about as far as it gets these days.

[Young Avenger]

I've never read Claremont's X-Men so I can't be upset that he's leaving. I know I will be adding Uncanny to my pull list once Ed Brubaker starts writing it in July.

[Young Avenger]

**Damn, double post. Carry on

[Novaya Havoc]

You and Nyssane have similiar avatars! That's adorable! I think male Dazzler and female Dazzler should hook up! :D

Just for you, Faded... Al and Ali Blaire.

The worst thing to happen since Dazzler and Longshot.

[Faded]

Just for you, Faded... Al and Ali Blaire.

The worst thing to happen since Dazzler and Longshot.

I think male Dazzler came to be from breeding between alternate reality counterparts of the same character. So it makes sense.

I got a Novaya exclusive. Oh yeah. :cool:

[Novaya Havoc]

I think male Dazzler came to be from breeding between alternate reality counterparts of the same character. So it makes sense.

I got a Novaya exclusive. Oh yeah. :cool:

I think male Dazzler is a product of the trademark Claremont fetish female -- another reason why I'm glad to see him one more title away from the X-Men.

</getting thread back on topic>

[Jake V]

I think male Dazzler is a product of the trademark Claremont fetish female -- another reason why I'm glad to see him one more title away from the X-Men.

</getting thread back on topic>
They should clone Ultimate Dazzler and bring her into the MU. I like that one the best.

[Gingold]

Not sure what to think. I like Brubaker. I like Claremont. This recent Uncanny run hasn't been spectacular, but it's been pretty solid. I lked the beginning of "End of Greys". I've liked most of Brubaker's previous work and Deadly Genesis has been pretty interesting, if not groundbreaking, so far.

I understand Marvel's reasoning, Uncanny is a flagship title that needs to be kept hip and fresh. I'm big Claremont fan, but he's neither of those things. I just hope he isn't pushed off to the sides, the company owes him more than that.

[Faded]

I'm happy, but not because Claremont is leaving. I'm enjoying the current arc, but I went through too many issues I didn't like to justify it to myself that the run as a whole was satisfactory. I'm very happy he gets a decent amount of time to wrap things up, and I'm content to know he still is employed in the form of three other series.

My main draw is I'm excited for what Brubaker has to offer.

And Novaya's new avatar makes me smile. I feel like I've made a difference. Now I'm off to plant a tree. :D

[Novaya Havoc]

And Novaya's new avatar makes me smile. I feel like I've made a difference. Now I'm off to plant a tree. :D

Good man. Decorate it with mirror balls, not leather chaps.

[Faded]

Good man. Decorate it with mirror balls, not leather chaps.

Girl! Everyone thinks I'm a dude!

*unstuffs the bulge in her jeans*

Is it okay if I dye the leaves pink though?

[Novaya Havoc]

Girl! Everyone thinks I'm a dude!

*unstuffs the bulge in her jeans*

Is it okay if I dye the leaves pink though?

Oh well, they thought I was a girl earlier in this thread. Looks like we have gender identity issues like NEX Dazzler. :( I'm sorry, hun. ;)

[streator]

I think you need to pay more attention exactly who does what in comics before you make any more uninformed opinions. If you were paying attention, you would know a scriptor is not the same as a writer.
ddmowned.

brubaker has nothing to do with "walking dead".

as expressed, kirkman writes the title, not brubaker.


//as i mentioned earlier, do others think bachalo is going as well? and if he is, who would you like to see be the artist alongside brubaker's uncanny issues?

edit: props to jake v.

[Faded]

Oh well, they thought I was a girl earlier in this thread. Looks like we have gender identity issues like NEX Dazzler. :( I'm sorry, hun. ;)

I knew you were a guy. I took a peak at the Cast me as an X-Man thread and I saw your pic. You're hot!! Too bad I'm not a guy... ;)

[Novaya Havoc]

....... :o

[Faded]

....... :o

Darn broken third leg!!!

...I've crossed that line again, haven't I?

[ibrakeforchinwe]

Claremont was hired in 1976. He wrote Uncanny from 1976 to 1991, which is a really long time. He was hired in January of 2000 and then fired in October of the same year. Then he was given X-Treme X-Men in 2001, he was made to drop the Destiny's Diaries plot, which was the whole reason for the book and the book ended 2004. He was given Uncanny in May 2004 and now he's being let go in June of 2006.

He must be a really nice guy, if he keeps coming back. You gotta admire that. He loves the X-Men as much as we do. He comes back for us(fans of his) and because he himself is a fan.

Thats the best kind of writer, one who loves the characters he writes. I don't know how big an X Fan Brubaker is. I shouldnt hold anything against him, its not like it was his decision to take over, but I will have to see how his stories are.

[Nyssane]

People think my screename is Nysanne...

*goes away*

Oh wait, *comes back* to stay on topic, I think...uh, the new writer (forgot his name already) will do...good. =D

[Novaya Havoc]

Oi! I'm sure a lot of writers would like to come back and revisit their pet characters. The point is they don't often get the opportunity.

Chris Claremont DOES get that opportunity. It's not like Claremont is some sort of comic anomaly of altruism. Look at Nunzio and Christina. I am sure they would love to come back to New X-Men.

Claremont gets MORE than his fair share because he "deserves our respect." That card is so old and played out. He does not deliver on the stories, and he does not adapt his storytelling for the contemporary market.

Why he is so masochistic, I have no idea. Personally, I would take a hint.

-B

[Faded]

People think my screename is Nysanne...

*goes away*

Oh wait, *comes back* to stay on topic, I think...uh, the new writer (forgot his name already) will do...good. =D

Was it I?!?!

I'm with streator wondering whether or not the artist will change. I wonder if Bachalo will have good chemistry with Brubaker. The name's Brubaker Ny (I gave you a nickname, Nyssane!) ;).

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Sweet christ....they pulled the trigger. Claremont is gone. Damn....thats a shock. :eek:

[Jake V]

Sweet christ....they pulled the trigger. Claremont is gone. Damn....thats a shock. :eek:
It's a shock? I saw this coming a mile away.

[X-Men Forever]

Sweet christ....they pulled the trigger. Claremont is gone. Damn....thats a shock. :eek:

Not really. The only reason Claremont got the gig in the first place, is because Alan Davis signed on to be the artist on Uncanny($500.00 per page :eek: ), and he said that he wanted Claremont to be the writer. So Alan Davis is the guy who got Claremont the Uncanny gig, and Davis left Uncanny almost a year ago now so Claremont has no reason to stay.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Not really. The only reason Claremont got the gig in the first place, is because Alan Davis signed on to be the artist on Uncanny($500.00 per page :eek: ), and he said that he wanted Claremont to be the writer. So Alan Davis is the guy who got Claremont the Uncanny gig, and Davis left Uncanny almost a year ago now so Claremont has no reason to stay.


Damn its a shock because the book was pretty much way better than Milligan's. I always thought Peter Milligan's job was the one in trouble. Come on Joe ...pull the trigger on Peter Milligan now. 86 his ass.

[Faded]

Oh dear...

Bashing Whedon, Morrison, Milligan, Casey, Austen, et. al. not cool (bashing period isn't cool, but you folks know what I mean...no "Why Claremont? Fire ____ instead!")

Me, quoting rules--now that's something.

[Rachel Grey]

$%@#^&#!!! F$^&#@#^#!!!!

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage!

[Novaya Havoc]

Breathe, dear. Breathe.

[Faded]

$%@#^&#!!! F$^&#@#^#!!!!

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage!

:eek:

Call the Shi'ar! ;)

Man, that was geeky of me. :o

[Babylon23]

Actually, I wonder if CC actually chose to leave the books. I know I would if I were in his situation. Having to suffer constant attacks by critics, editorial stuffups, lack of control over your own book, losing characters to other titles, and x-over interruptions. Forced to suffer editorial mandates while other "golden boy" writers are given free reign to do what they like, even it it disrupts your own stories. I'd probably ask to leave after a while.

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Great.

The lazy-minded, "short attention-span whiners", and "wannebe writers" finally win..

These types made it "their life's goal" to run CC, and now they probably don't know what to do with themselves next.

[Novaya Havoc]

Actually, I wonder if CC actually chose to leave the books. I know I would if I were in his situation. Having to suffer constant attacks by critics, editorial stuffups, lack of control over your own book, losing characters to other titles, and x-over interruptions. Forced to suffer editorial mandates while other "golden boy" writers are given free reign to do what they like, even it it disrupts your own stories. I'd probably ask to leave after a while.

Doubtful. Why, then, would he launch a "New" Excalibur given those factors AND the poor (understated) reception of the last Excalibur?

I'm telling you... the man is a masochist.

-B (who would be 50x less hard on CC if he didn't give us Al Blaire)

[o1pickleboy]

I personally hope that Claremont moves to the Avengers. I love the classic feel he gives the characters he writes. Although I think he was running out of X men ideas. I believe would have thousands of ideas for Cap, Iron Man and co. Something that would parellel Busieks run, but be new and different. Plus maybe some X- characters would get to crossover to the Avengers.

[milly3cat]

Has this new writer written comics before? Does anybody know what his issues of comics are ????

[Brian M.]

I personally hope that Claremont moves to the Avengers. I love the classic feel he gives the characters he writes. Although I think he was running out of X men ideas. I believe would have thousands of ideas for Cap, Iron Man and co. Something that would parellel Busieks run, but be new and different. Plus maybe some X- characters would get to crossover to the Avengers.

New Avengers West Coast

Writer: Chris Claremont
Artist: Alan Davis

!?!?!

[Faded]

There have been hints that another Avengers book was coming by Joe Q.

[thik_3rd]

christmas is coming early this year. i can't be more pleased. a writer i really like is coming to my favorite title ever. i can only hope they get an artist half as good as brubaker is a writer.

New Avengers West Coast

Writer: Chris Claremont
Artist: Alan Davis

!?!?!
i'd love nothing more than an old school avengers book...but i'd pass on that.



I think you need to pull the stick (or whatever else) from out of your ass before you jump to any conclusions.
sonned.

[Twigglet]

Great.

The lazy-minded, "short attention-span whiners", and "wannebe writers" finally win..

These types made it "their life's goal" to run CC, and now they probably don't know what to do with themselves next.

???

I know whats happening next!

PAD, Brubaker, Milligan and Whedon on X-books, the best the quality has ever been!

[thik_3rd]

now we just need lobdell on x-men. c'moooooooon.

[Jake V]

now we just need lobdell on x-men. c'moooooooon.
Is he even doing comics anymore? I thought he fully moved on to movies.

[thik_3rd]

Is he even doing comics anymore? I thought he fully moved on to movies.
oh really? i thought he was doing some hardy boys crap. if that's true it's humanity's loss.

[Hombre]

Claremont was hired in 1976. He wrote Uncanny from 1976 to 1991, which is a really long time. He was hired in January of 2000 and then fired in October of the same year. Then he was given X-Treme X-Men in 2001, he was made to drop the Destiny's Diaries plot, which was the whole reason for the book and the book ended 2004. He was given Uncanny in May 2004 and now he's being let go in June of 2006.



Too bad his last Uncanny scripts have to be illustrated by Chris Bachalo.

[Sentinel K]

Too bad his last Uncanny scripts have to be illustrated by Chris Bachalo.

Bachalo is god!

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Bachalo is god!

I agree. He occasionally has an off day, but he's a good solid artist, with a very unique style.

[Frank]

Damn Nu Marvel has finally did it.

It`s weird because since Joe Q took over I have dreamnt of this very moment where they would have gotten this dinosaur away from the X-Men. But as a former fan of "The Mutant King" I secretly wished he would get better. And out of the blue it happened! Chris was getting better finally. Both Bachalo and CC had seemed refreshed by their collaboration. So it`s a sad day to finally see the old Claremont just when he`s fired. At least we won`t see any fixation on particular members for no reasons(a la Psylocke and Rachel becoming perfection made flesh, always beating everybody).

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Damn Nu Marvel has finally did it.

It`s weird because since Joe Q took over I have dreamnt of this very moment where they would have gotten this dinosaur away from the X-Men. But as a former fan of "The Mutant King" I secretly wished he would get better. And out of the blue it happened! Chris was getting better finally. Both Bachalo and CC had seemed refreshed by their collaboration. So it`s a sad day to finally see the old Claremont just when he`s fired. At least we won`t see any fixation on particular members for no reasons(a la Psylocke and Rachel becoming perfection made flesh, always beating everybody).


But surely this frees him up to do New Excalibur full-time, now. I think we can expect good things from this book, with the extra time. Who knows maybe he'll even plunder some of the old Excalibur members...?

[TinMan]

Bachalo is god!

Thats the most overstated comment I've read in awhile, I hope Bachelo leaves w/ CC, I'd prefer to see someone who can actually draw stuff on this X-book! :p

Well, as I said yesterday before the thread got deleted because of certain ego's *coughFlight&Wader0069cough*: I think its for the best. Since I've come back to reading the X-books CC hasn't been up to snuff as far as I'm concerned, I had hope he would bust some good stuff out but it hasn't happened (though New Excalibur definitely has that old CC pizaz, I love that book). So I am extremely happy to see Ed come onto this title cause I've been really impressed w/ what I have read of his work, now hopefully he'll bring a better penciler w/ him!

[The Sword Is Drawn]

The more I think about this the better it actually sounds. Brubaker is a modern writer with a strong understanding and respect for comic book history. First and foremost that is what Uncanny needs in a writer.

Don't get me wrong, I have utter respect for Claremont, and probably always will have, but if he was going to move on then Brubaker is the best choice.

I just hope that X-Men gets a new writer by the summer, too.

I hope Chris puts his all into New Excalibur now. And if he can poach any of the original members during a roster shakeup, that'd be good too...

[fishtaco]

Well, this is really stupid. I'll give Brubaker a chance, but I don't trust him with these characters. Marvel just made a very, very poor decision.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Well, this is really stupid. I'll give Brubaker a chance, but I don't trust him with these characters. Marvel just made a very, very poor decision.

Which characters specifically? After all, there will be a roster shake-up.

Have you been reading Deadly Genesis? I think he's dealt with the characters very respectfully so far.

[fishtaco]

I'm glad that Claremont gets to finish this storyline before he leaves.
I'm sad that he's leaving... But really, how long can we hold on? He's still got New Excalibur. Brubaker is a good writer who is already proving he can do good things with the X-Men, so it's not a bad change.

But also, we don't know the full scoop on this yet. Maybe Claremont is moving to X-Men and Milligan is the one who is out? Milligan's recent interview did not indicate any of his future plans for the title. Maybe Claremont wanted to leave, after finishing the Jamie Braddock storyline, which is what started his third run in the first place.

Hell, maybe he's becoming an Editor ;)
We won't know for a few days what the full deal is anyway. But things could be worse.I like your optimism. You do make some valid points. :)

[cable guy]

Has this new writer written comics before? Does anybody know what his issues of comics are ????

Ed Brubaker is one of the hottest writers out there at the moment.

He writes an incredible Captain America.

[Twigglet]

I definitly feel Milligan will be off soon after the Apocalypse arc, probably right after, or 1 or 2 more arcs after, however I hope Claremont doesn't write that, if for the simple fact it makes no sense for Claremont to go from one core X-book to another.

I'd much rather see Vaughn (allthough he probably won't) or Kirkman to take over.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I definitly feel Milligan will be off soon after the Apocalypse arc, probably right after, or 1 or 2 more arcs after, however I hope Claremont doesn't write that, if for the simple fact it makes no sense for Claremont to go from one core X-book to another.

I'd much rather see Vaughn (allthough he probably won't) or Kirkman to take over.

I'd love to see Mark Miller do X-Men. It'll never happen in a million years, but I'd like to see it happen. His issues of Ultimate X-Men had just the right feel to them.

[Joe Rice]

On the one hand, I think these superhero books are kind of a waste of Brubaker's skills, and usually not what he's best at writing.

On the other hand, when he's on his game, he's in the top couple of tiers in mainstream comics. So I'll definitely give it a shot, which is more than I can say for any Claremont-written book.

[jarrod]

Who knows maybe he'll even plunder some of the old Excalibur members...?
Pitor and Kitty are out of his hands thanks to Whedon, PAD's holding on to Rhane and I think Brubaker's going to hold on to Rachel and Kurt, since he evidently likes them. I do think there's a chance he might be able to swipe Besty, though she was never a previous Excalibur member. I'm not really sure anyone else has a solid handle on the character anyway.


I'd love to see Mark Miller do X-Men. It'll never happen in a million years, but I'd like to see it happen. His issues of Ultimate X-Men had just the right feel to them.
Agreed. A Millar and Hitch combo could be the best thing to happen to the X-Men in awhile... they should be handed Astonishing. Then it might live up to the title. ;)

[Porcelain]

And then think about Ed Brubaker writing the Uncanny X-Men, while writing Books of Doom, Captain America, Daredevil, and Deadly Genesis, and then salivate.
Is anyone concerned about him writing so many titles at once? Or can this amount be fairly typical? I know Genesis will be done, but if the others continue I'm kinda wondering if that could effect the quality?

[Valen]

It looks like I can finally add Uncanny X-Men back onto my pull list. This has made me very happy.
:)

[Twigglet]

Is anyone concerned about him writing so many titles at once? Or can this amount be fairly typical? I know Genesis will be done, but if the others continue I'm kinda wondering if that could effect the quality?

Three titles can be done easily, Clarmeont has been doing the same thing whilst New Excalibur, Uncanny, The End and I suppose even NeXt was going on.

Bendis has managed to write Daredevil, Ultimate Spider-man, Pulse, New Avengers, Powers and added in minis as well.

[Ryan K]

Well, I'm dissapointed. My favorite writer off of my favorite book. I'm pleased Claremont will (apparently) be able to finish his Jamie Braddock storyline, and I'm pleased he won't be leaving the X-universe completely since he'll be on Excalibur. But I'm still dissapointed. With 3 ongoing X-Men series, I see no reason why Claremont shouldn't be allowed to continually be on one if he wants too (hell maybe he wanted off though, who knows).

But with him still on New Excalibur maybe a lot of his characters and subplots from Uncanny can gradually move over there. We'll see.

I haven't read a lot of Brubaker's stuff. I've liked what I've read though so I'll obviously be on board for this. But in my mind when you replace Claremont expectations are high. Higher than they would be had he replaced Milligan.

[Mariah]

Well, I'm dissapointed. My favorite writer off of my favorite book. I'm pleased Claremont will (apparently) be able to finish his Jamie Braddock storyline, and I'm pleased he won't be leaving the X-universe completely since he'll be on Excalibur. But I'm still dissapointed. With 3 ongoing X-Men series, I see no reason why Claremont shouldn't be allowed to continually be on one if he wants too (hell maybe he wanted off though, who knows).

But with him still on New Excalibur maybe a lot of his characters and subplots from Uncanny can gradually move over there. We'll see.

I haven't read a lot of Brubaker's stuff. I've liked what I've read though so I'll obviously be on board for this. But in my mind when you replace Claremont expectations are high. Higher than they would be had he replaced Milligan.
Maybe he left because Dani got depowered, i know he always used to love her, and i think he should have gotten her along with Sam on X-Men, but sigh, he never seems to get what he wants anymore.

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Maybe he left because Dani got depowered, i know he always used to love her, and i think he should have gotten her along with Sam on X-Men, but sigh, he never seems to get what he wants anymore.

I doubt that because what is done can be "un-done".

Yes. Limiting mutants when you know that the most popular of the "de-powered" will get their powers back---isn't a great idea.

Hopefully, Marvel will dangle carrot of a "New Mutants/X-Force/ Real New X-Men" book with most of his chracters. Dani and others could play there. Storm could return.

I'd buy it.

[jarrod]

Maybe he left because Dani got depowered, i know he always used to love her, and i think he should have gotten her along with Sam on X-Men, but sigh, he never seems to get what he wants anymore.
Claremont actually listed Dani as one of the characters he wanted but wasn't allowed not too long ago (along with Kitty, Hank, Jean, Rogue and some others). I doubt he'd leave over Dani though, more likely he has something new brewing (neXt?) and was forced to give on either Excalibur or Uncanny. Here's to hoping he takes Besty with him, I'd rather not see her mangled again in his absence.

I actually don't mind much that Dani got depowered either, though her forced exit was pretty grating. Her powers had been so scaled back and ill-definied lately that it doesn't seem like a major loss really though... like Ororo, I think we may see Dani really come into her own now that she's powerless. Plus, there's always the possibility of Dani's Valkyrie heritage coming into play and giving her a new set of abilities... I kinda wish PAD would scoop her up for X-Factor. She'd be a perfect fit and already has a history with most of the cast.

[DDM]

Ed Brubaker is one of the hottest writers out there at the moment.

He writes an incredible Captain America.

Writers don't always stay hot or popular. Never use popularity for any reason to pick up a book. Popularity fades. And hot becomes cold.

[Twigglet]

Writers don't always stay hot or popular. Never use popularity for any reason to pick up a book. Popularity fades. And hot becomes cold.

Meh, I think he was just saying Brubeaker is currently selling a lot of books, and exlpaining who he was, not a reason to pick up the book.

[The Fury]

Meh, I think he was just saying Brubeaker is currently selling a lot of books, and exlpaining who he was, not a reason to pick up the book.
Mate...you did it again.

Brubaker. No e.

[Sentinel K]

Dude...you did it again.

Brubaker. No e.

Mate.....you just said "dude" again. :p

[Keith_Martineau]

I actually don't think he's that hot of a writer---yet. His marvel work is still limited to Cap and Deadly Genesis. His other titles don't start for awhile.

However he HAS proven to do good work, for years at other companies. I LOVE his Authority. I thought he took the book in the only direction it could really go.

And we know for a fact that he's been reading tons of back issues to get ready for this (he's said so on multiple message boards) so that at least makes me feel good that we're gonna get some continuity respect, possibly more than any other writer besides Claremont.

At this point, I wanna know who the writer is. It'd be awesome if it was Lenil Francis Yu.

[X-Men Forever]

I actually don't think he's that hot of a writer---yet. His marvel work is still limited to Cap and Deadly Genesis. His other titles don't start for awhile.

However he HAS proven to do good work, for years at other companies. I LOVE his Authority. I thought he took the book in the only direction it could really go.

And we know for a fact that he's been reading tons of back issues to get ready for this (he's said so on multiple message boards) so that at least makes me feel good that we're gonna get some continuity respect, possibly more than any other writer besides Claremont.

At this point, I wanna know who the writer is. It'd be awesome if it was Lenil Francis Yu.

If Leinil Yu is the artist on Brubakers Uncanny run, then Uncany X-Men will overtake the Ultimates as my new favorite Marvel comic book :D :D :D .

[The Sword Is Drawn]

And we know for a fact that he's been reading tons of back issues to get ready for this (he's said so on multiple message boards) so that at least makes me feel good that we're gonna get some continuity respect, possibly more than any other writer besides Claremont.

Which is exactley why I have confidence in him. Anybody who hasn't read his stuff before, take a look at some of his Captain America, and Deadly Genesis.

This guy has one thing that many writers don't have these days. Respect for a title's history.

I look forward to this.

[X-Men Forever]

Has this new writer written comics before? Does anybody know what his issues of comics are ????

New writer :confused: For how many years have you been reading comic books? And have you ever read a comic book from DC or Wildstorm?

[Titan76]

I hope Brubakers gets paired with a big artist. I would love to see Greg Land do Uncanny but since he is doing Ultimate FF right now this most likely won't happen, at least not right away. Coipel would be another nice pick too.

[Bashful Benjamin]

I hope Brubakers gets paired with a big artist. I would love to see Greg Land do Uncanny but since he is doing Ultimate FF right now this most likely won't happen, at least not right away. Coipel would be another nice pick too.

Yeah, Coipel would be fine, did a nice job on HoM.

[Brian Cronin]

Just so we're clear, no knocking creators who have nothing to do with this change.

If you want to express your feelings about Brubaker or Claremont, go ahead (so long as you are civil enough...for a hint at what is civil, see this post (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2492509&postcount=23). That is as far as you can go and still sorta claim that you are being civil. Anything more than that is not).

But nothing about Morrison, Milligan, Whedon, Austen, Casey, etc.

-Brian

[Mister Mets]

I am happy, because I like Brubaker/I am happy, because I do not like Claremont

I am also happy that more people will pick up Uncanny X-Men now that it has an excellent writer, and Claremont's fans will continue to get his work on books such as New Excalibur.

Is anyone concerned about him writing so many titles at once? Or can this amount be fairly typical? I know Genesis will be done, but if the others continue I'm kinda wondering if that could effect the quality?

Books of Doom/ Deadly Genesis will end before Uncanny X-Men begins, so it's a fair trade. The man's not going to be doing more work than at any point before.

[X-Men Forever]

The real fact of Brubaker replacing Claremont on Uncanny is all about sales figures, and the figures will go up by a few thousand units a month by having a top 10 Wizard magazine writer like Brubaker on Uncanny. It has been a long time since Uncanny has sold 100K or more units every month, but like Bendis brought the Avengers to a 100K seller month in/month out, so will Brubaker bring Uncanny to it's former 100K or more glory. So from a financial piont of view, Marvel is very wise to replace Claremont with one of the industries current hottest buzz writers in Ed Brubaker. I have no problem with Claremont's current Uncanny stuff, for me it is the best written X-Men stuff right now(although everything else is so poor right now, it's not saying much)but the Brubaker writer change has a great chance to be monumental.

[Beast]

Claremont was hired in 1976. He wrote Uncanny from 1976 to 1991, which is a really long time. He was hired in January of 2000 and then fired in October of the same year. Then he was given X-Treme X-Men in 2001, he was made to drop the Destiny's Diaries plot, which was the whole reason for the book and the book ended 2004. He was given Uncanny in May 2004 and now he's being let go in June of 2006.

He must be a really nice guy, if he keeps coming back. You gotta admire that. He loves the X-Men as much as we do. He comes back for us(fans of his) and because he himself is a fan.

Thats the best kind of writer, one who loves the characters he writes. I don't know how big an X Fan Brubaker is. I shouldnt hold anything against him, its not like it was his decision to take over, but I will have to see how his stories are.
Actually he wasn't fired in 2001. He was given the choice to either share the core book writing with one other writer, or to move to a single new title (X-Treme) that would be seperate from the core titles. :)

[FabioX]

The real fact of Brubaker replacing Claremont on Uncanny is all about sales figures, and the figures will go up by a few thousand units a month by having a top 10 Wizard magazine writer like Brubaker on Uncanny. It has been a long time since Uncanny has sold 100K or more units every month, but like Bendis brought the Avengers to a 100K seller month in/month out, so will Brubaker bring Uncanny to it's former 100K or more glory. So from a financial piont of view, Marvel is very wise to replace Claremont with one of the industries current hottest buzz writers in Ed Brubaker. I have no problem with Claremont's current Uncanny stuff, for me it is the best written X-Men stuff right now(although everything else is so poor right now, it's not saying much)but the Brubaker writer change has a great chance to be monumental.

This is really sad but has a lot of truth behind.
Unfortunatly the very good stuff Claremont's done hasn't been enough.

I want to be clear.
I love the last 8 issues of Uncanny X-Men.
Claremont's is at very high quality levels and these are the best X-Books for sure, but the sales didn't respond properly.

More clear: I think that the best quality oriented move would have been Brubaker replacing Milligan on "X-Men", keeping Claremont & Bachalo on Uncanny X-Men and Whedon & Cassaday on Astonishing X-Men .... but Marvel doesn't seem to be on this frequency.

I mean: it's not the first time that Marvel does wrong, illogical and not-quality oriented choices.

I really like Ed Brubaker.
His Captain America is one of the best ever interpretations of this character, to me much better then the most exalted version of Mark Waid and Ron Garney ..... and I think he will do a good job on the X-Men .... but I'd have liked to dream an artistic couple of teams as happened during the Morrison Era.
From one side there was Morrison and on the other Claremont and their titles worked perfectly in pair and synergy while being so different and separated and with their own personality .... I'd have liked to see the same structre with Brubaker on one side (X-Men) and Claremont & Bachalo (Uncanny X-Men) on the other.

So .... I'm pretty happy, but even very depressed.
Sigh .....

[Novaya Havoc]

Uncanny = Main Title.

More will slide on the "smaller" titles (in terms of sheer volume). It's not like the three titles are full equals. That's my opinion.

[fishtaco]

Claremont deserves a lot more respect than this. Chris Claremont spent 17 years turning a dead book into the best selling franchise in the entire comic book industry. A large portion of Marvel's success is due to his astonishing (no pun intended) on Uncanny X-Men, Excalibur, New Mutants, as well as other X-stories such as Classic X-Men backups, Graphic Novels, and a large number of mini series.

He is the creator of tens of major X-Men characters. He created the Phoenix Force, Kitty Pryde, Rogue, Phoenix III, Psylocke, Jubilee, Forge, Gambit, Cannonball, Sage, Moonstar, Emma Frost, Sinister, Karma, Warlock, Cypher, Magma, Sunspot, Wolfsbane, Multiple Man, Strong Guy, Madelyne Pryor, Captain Britain, Meggan, Magik II, Warpath, Corsair, Chod, Hepzibah, Raza, Mystique, Sikorski, Sabretooth, Scalphunter, Malice, Thunderbird III, Lifeguard, Slipstream, the Shadow King, Destiny, Avalanche, Pyro, Stonewall, Super Sabre, Crimson Commando, Sebastion Shaw, Zaladane, William Stryker, Leech, Callisto, Caliban, Healer, Sunder, Moira MacTaggert, Stevie Hunter, Lilandra, Gladiator, Kylun, Lockheed, Donald Pierce, Nimrod, Harpoon, Scrambler, Riptide, Masque, Harry LeLand, Gateway, Alistaire Stuart, Jamie Braddock, D'Ken, Deathbird, Tom Corsi, Sharon Freidlander, Lila Cheney, Tullamore Voge, Fenris, Val Cooper, the Adversary, Black Tom, Vange, Marie D'ancanto, Selene, Empath, Roulette, Catseye, Jetstream, Fabian Cortez, and countless others.

He created Genosha, the Shiar, the Brood, the Sidri, the Morlock Tunnels, DOFP timeline, the Hellfire Club, Reavers, Excalibur, The New Mutants, etc etc etc.

There are other top characters that he didn't create but he developed them into the great character that they are. Professor X, Cyclops, Phoenix IV, Polaris, Havok, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Banshee, Storm, Colossus, Magneto, Longshot, Dazzler, and Bishop, are all good examples.

He wrote classics such as the Dark Phoenix Saga, Proteus Saga, Days of Future Past, Kitty's Fairy Tale, The Brood Saga, God Loves Man Kills, From The Ashes, Lifedeath, Lifedeath II, Inferno, Fall of The Mutants, Mutant Massacre, X-Tinction Agenda, Cross-Time Caper, Schoolgirls From Heck, Demon Bear Saga, Kitty Pryde and Wolverine, etc etc etc etc. There have been many stories based off of these stories. Days of Future Past has been done a lot. The recent awful Phoenix Endsong was a useless repeat of his classic Dark Phoenix Saga. The recent Shadow and Flame mini came from the Kitty Pryde and Wolveirine mini. John Francis Moore did a sequel to his Demon Bear Saga in X-Force 99-100. The current arc in New X-Men is from God Loves Man Kills. Kitty's Fairy Tale is going to be reprinted soon in a Marvel Milestone.

His four issue mini in 1982 is the cause of Wolverine's extreme popularity today. Before that, he was a one dimensional raging barbarian who just ran around and cut people up.

He created spin off titles and influenced other spin off X-titles such as The New Mutants, Excalibur, Classic X-Men, Wolverine, Alpha Flight, X-Factor, X-Men, X-Force, and countless mini series.

I don't understand. Is this how Marvel repays Mr. Claremont? By kicking him off of his own book to be replaced by someone who will write a short run and then never come back to the X-titles again? Marvel has made a very, very poor choice. A very poor choice.

[Twigglet]

Claremont deserves a lot more respect than this. Chris Claremont spent 17 years turning a dead book into the best selling franchise in the entire comic book industry. A large portion of Marvel's success is due to his astonishing (no pun intended) on Uncanny X-Men, Excalibur, New Mutants, as well as other X-stories such as Classic X-Men backups, Graphic Novels, and a large number of mini series.

He is the creator of tens of major X-Men characters. He created the Phoenix Force, Kitty Pryde, Rogue, Phoenix III, Psylocke, Jubilee, Forge, Gambit, Cannonball, Sage, Moonstar, Emma Frost, Sinister, Karma, Warlock, Cypher, Magma, Sunspot, Wolfsbane, Multiple Man, Strong Guy, Madelyne Pryor, Captain Britain, Meggan, Magik II, Warpath, Corsair, Chod, Hepzibah, Raza, Mystique, Sikorski, Sabretooth, Scalphunter, Malice, Thunderbird III, Lifeguard, Slipstream, the Shadow King, Destiny, Avalanche, Pyro, Stonewall, Super Sabre, Crimson Commando, Sebastion Shaw, Zaladane, William Stryker, Leech, Callisto, Caliban, Healer, Sunder, Moira MacTaggert, Stevie Hunter, Lilandra, Gladiator, Kylun, Lockheed, Donald Pierce, Nimrod, Harpoon, Scrambler, Riptide, Masque, Harry LeLand, Gateway, Alistaire Stuart, Jamie Braddock, D'Ken, Deathbird, Tom Corsi, Sharon Freidlander, Lila Cheney, Tullamore Voge, Fenris, Val Cooper, the Adversary, Black Tom, Vange, Marie D'ancanto, Selene, Empath, Roulette, Catseye, Jetstream, Fabian Cortez, and countless others.

He created Genosha, the Shiar, the Brood, the Sidri, the Morlock Tunnels, DOFP timeline, the Hellfire Club, Reavers, Excalibur, The New Mutants, etc etc etc.

There are other top characters that he didn't create but he developed them into the great character that they are. Professor X, Cyclops, Phoenix IV, Polaris, Havok, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Banshee, Storm, Colossus, Magneto, Longshot, Dazzler, and Bishop, are all good examples.

He wrote classics such as the Dark Phoenix Saga, Proteus Saga, Days of Future Past, Kitty's Fairy Tale, The Brood Saga, God Loves Man Kills, From The Ashes, Lifedeath, Lifedeath II, Inferno, Fall of The Mutants, Mutant Massacre, X-Tinction Agenda, Cross-Time Caper, Schoolgirls From Heck, Demon Bear Saga, Kitty Pryde and Wolverine, etc etc etc etc. There have been many stories based off of these stories. Days of Future Past has been done a lot. The recent awful Phoenix Endsong was a useless repeat of his classic Dark Phoenix Saga. The recent Shadow and Flame mini came from the Kitty Pryde and Wolveirine mini. John Francis Moore did a sequel to his Demon Bear Saga in X-Force 99-100. The current arc in New X-Men is from God Loves Man Kills. Kitty's Fairy Tale is going to be reprinted soon in a Marvel Milestone.

His four issue mini in 1982 is the cause of Wolverine's extreme popularity today. Before that, he was a one dimensional raging barbarian who just ran around and cut people up.

He created spin off titles and influenced other spin off X-titles such as The New Mutants, Excalibur, Classic X-Men, Wolverine, Alpha Flight, X-Factor, X-Men, X-Force, and countless mini series.

I don't understand. Is this how Marvel repays Mr. Claremont? By kicking him off of his own book to be replaced by someone who will write a short run and then never come back to the X-titles again? Marvel has made a very, very poor choice. A very poor choice.

Wow, this is more like the Fishtaco we know.

His run 20 years ago counts for nothing.

If a muscian made music 20 years ago, which was good for his time, came back today and released crappy songs, would you buy them? No, this is no execption.

Second of all, we don't know if he asked to go or what, you're just assuming he got kicked off Uncanny.

And I like how you know Brubaker is only writing a short run and will never write X-stories again, not that that has anything to do with quality, a writer who only writes 12 brilliant issue is better than one who writer 100 mediocre ones.

Marvel has made a decision they will feel make them more money, if it does make them more, I'm sure they will be very happy.

[Brian Cronin]

A certain amount of venting is perfectly normal, and should not be derided.

-Brian

[Porcelain]

Books of Doom/ Deadly Genesis will end before Uncanny X-Men begins, so it's a fair trade. The man's not going to be doing more work than at any point before.
I didn't know Books of Doom, so didn't realise he wouldn't be writing it much longer, thank you.

I'm torn on whether Brubaker should have a new artist, I love Bachalo but I don't know what EB wants to do with his run or where he wants to take it. I wouldn't say no to Coipel, though Yu would seriously damage my enjoyment of it (unless he's changed quite a bit).

So allegedly EB has been boning up? Where's that been said?

[fishtaco]

Wow, this is more like the Fishtaco we know.

His run 20 years ago counts for nothing.

If a muscian made music 20 years ago, which was good for his time, came back today and released crappy songs, would you buy them? No, this is no execption.

Second of all, we don't know if he asked to go or what, you're just assuming he got kicked off Uncanny.

And I like how you know Brubaker is only writing a short run and will never write X-stories again, not that that has anything to do with quality, a writer who only writes 12 brilliant issue is better than one who writer 100 mediocre ones.

Marvel has made a decision they will feel make them more money, if it does make them more, I'm sure they will be very happy.On the contrary, Claremont is not writing crappy stories. He manages to write good stories while having to put up with tons of crap from the editors, such as them taking away Cannonball from him, as well as Shadowcat, Gambit, Rogue, and Storm. He has to put up with these megacrossovers, as well as fill-in artists. A lot of his stories are nixed for no reason, and he often gets told by his editors what to write. Take a look at how his Hellfire Club story in New Excalibur and Uncanny X-Men is getting screwed over by the new Hellfire Club in AXM. Unfortunately, the quality, veteran writers always get screwed over by the writers that are popular for a few years or two. Brubaker does not have the passion for the characters that Claremont does. Therefore, the quality of the stories are probably going to be limited. Disrespect for the established canon and the characterizations of the characters will run rampant (as if it doesn't already).

The dislike for Claremont that a lot of "fans" seem to be showing is for illegitimate reasons such as, "he's old", or "it's not selling better than Infinite Crisis". Claremont critics like to seize the opportunity to be Claremont critics whenever there is an instance of an "X-Man vs X-Man" thing.

Claremont is still one of the most popular writers at Marvel, and he doesn't even get any hyperbole or attention from JQ. Removing him as probably angered thousands of fans.

I will give Brubaker three arcs. I have very high expectations for him. Very high expectations. Brubaker has thus far released two issues in the X-canon. His lack of experience as an X-writer may cause him to follow the same trend that other modern writers may follow (without mentioning names), this being using the characters in the cast regularly, with the villains, supporting cast, and other characters involved in the book being all new characters that I can't give a hoot for, as opposed to the thousands of pre-existing quality characters that make up the X-universe. I wouldn't be an X-Men fan if I only like four of five of them, and I don't see how anybody else can call themselves an X-Fan for liking four or five "A-list" characters either. I want to see so many of these characters.

One reason I love Claremont's current work so much is that he uses a vast amount of characters. Since his return to Uncanny X-Men, he has written Excalibur, Decimation 1-shot, New Excalibur, X-Men 165, and X-Men: The End. The scope of characters that he writes is phenomenal. He can take a look at any X-character and he knows how to write them, because he has been doing so for twenty five years. He pays respect to all of the other writer's work. He incorporated elements of Morrison, Simonson, Austen, Whedon, Nicieza, Lobell, etc.'s work into his own. He weaves all of these stories into one huge story. The story of the X-Men and how they fought to make peace between two types of people. Unfortunately, a lot of other writers just like to do these six story arc "epics" that conveniently fit into a trade paper back, which is good for the market. The sole result? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

It's very depressing.

[Beast]

Brubaker does not have the passion for the characters that Claremont does. Therefore, the quality of the stories are probably going to be limited. Disrespect for the established canon and the characterizations of the characters will run rampant (as if it doesn't already).
Fishy, I love CC's work as much as you... but sometimes you go too far and go from the loyal fan to the ranting fanboy. Brubaker has shown that he's got a passion for the characters. Perhaps that passion isn't as strong as CC's, but that doesn't make it any less worthy of respect. Brubaker has made numerous comments of buying Essentials and reading years of back-issues to get ready for Deadly Genesis. I would think of anyone, he's shown a respect for the characters. Do I like what he's doing in Deadly Genesis? Yes and No. I'm sick of 'Dark Secrets from Xavier's Past', but we should wait and see what Brubaker can deliver on Uncanny. :)

[fishtaco]

Fishy, I love CC's work as much as you... but sometimes you go too far and go from the loyal fan to the ranting fanboy. Brubaker has shown that he's got a passion for the characters. Perhaps that passion isn't as strong as CC's, but that doesn't make it any less worthy of respect. Brubaker has made numerous comments of buying Essentials and reading years of back-issues to get ready for Deadly Genesis. I would think of anyone, he's shown a respect for the characters. Do I like what he's doing in Deadly Genesis? Yes and No. I'm sick of 'Dark Secrets from Xavier's Past', but we should wait and see what Brubaker can deliver on Uncanny. :)Like I said, I will give him a chance. 3 arcs. That's a lot, right? In the paragraph that I typed that you cited, I just think that his work isn't going to be better than Claremont's. But if he has reallly spent all that time reading back issues, then I have more faith in confidence in him telling good stories as well as writing the characters correctly. It's hard for me to like something that is hyped a lot. The book seems to lose substance when it is hyped. I want to like Brubaker's Uncanny X-Men, and I will try to be open-minded.

[Twigglet]

On the contrary, Claremont is not writing crappy stories. He manages to write good stories while having to put up with tons of crap from the editors, such as them taking away Cannonball from him, as well as Shadowcat, Gambit, Rogue, and Storm. He has to put up with these megacrossovers, as well as fill-in artists. A lot of his stories are nixed for no reason, and he often gets told by his editors what to write. Take a look at how his Hellfire Club story in New Excalibur and Uncanny X-Men is getting screwed over by the new Hellfire Club in AXM. Unfortunately, the quality, veteran writers always get screwed over by the writers that are popular for a few years or two. Brubaker does not have the passion for the characters that Claremont does. Therefore, the quality of the stories are probably going to be limited. Disrespect for the established canon and the characterizations of the characters will run rampant (as if it doesn't already).

The dislike for Claremont that a lot of "fans" seem to be showing is for illegitimate reasons such as, "he's old", or "it's not selling better than Infinite Crisis". Claremont critics like to seize the opportunity to be Claremont critics whenever there is an instance of an "X-Man vs X-Man" thing.

Claremont is still one of the most popular writers at Marvel, and he doesn't even get any hyperbole or attention from JQ. Removing him as probably angered thousands of fans.

I will give Brubaker three arcs. I have very high expectations for him. Very high expectations. Brubaker has thus far released two issues in the X-canon. His lack of experience as an X-writer may cause him to follow the same trend that other modern writers may follow (without mentioning names), this being using the characters in the cast regularly, with the villains, supporting cast, and other characters involved in the book being all new characters that I can't give a hoot for, as opposed to the thousands of pre-existing quality characters that make up the X-universe. I wouldn't be an X-Men fan if I only like four of five of them, and I don't see how anybody else can call themselves an X-Fan for liking four or five "A-list" characters either. I want to see so many of these characters. One reason I love Claremont's current work so much is that he uses a vast amount of characters. Since his return to Uncanny X-Men, he has written Excalibur, New Excalibur, X-Men 165, and X-Men: The End. The scope of characters that he writes is phenomenal. He can take a look at any X-character and he knows how to write them, because he has been doing so for twenty five years. He pays respect to all of the other writer's work. He incorporated elements of Morrison, Simonson, Austen, Whedon, Nicieza, Lobell, etc.'s work into his own. He weaves all of these stories into one huge story. The story of the X-Men and how they fought to make peace between two types of people. Unfortunately, a lot of other writers just like to do these six story arc "epics" that conveniently fit into a trade paper back, which is good for the market. The sole result? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

It's very depressing.

If he's writing good stories thats great, I personally don't think so, but why mention his past at all? Every writer has to deal with editors, every writer has storylines nixxed, lots of writers have fill in artists.

I fail to see how not having the same passion as Claremont for the characters means he shouldn't be allowed to write X-men. First of all, none of us have any idea on Brubakers passion for the characters, and I'm failing to see how many new writers you would allow to write X-men. New writers rejuvinate old projects. Avenegers/Spider-man etc etc have all moved on, and they are better for it.

Claremonts removal has angered lots of fans perhaps, but I'd say it's excited lots more, even the ones who are angry have said they're looking forward to Brubakers story.

A book being good for the market..... I am failing to see how thats a bad thing.

I am also failing to see how using less characters is a bad thing. I'd rather focus on one set of characters, than the storylines getting confusing and adding to many characters. Less is more as the old saying goes. And your hatred for new characters is astounding, where would we be now if Claremont had said "Wein has invented all these X-men, and they've have a previous 70 odd issues, I don't need to use new characters" The more new characters the better!

[X-Men Forever]

Any die-hard Claremont fans out there want to make a sig-bet with me that Brubaker's Uncanny will "not" outsell Claremont's Uncanny? If you think that Uncanny's sales will go down after Claremont leaves the book and Brubaker takes over, then let's make the sig-bet just for fun times :D .

[Beast]

Any die-hard Claremont fans out there want to make a sig-bet with me that Brubaker's Uncanny will "not" outsell Claremont's Uncanny? If you think that Uncanny's sales will go down after Claremont leaves the book and Brubaker takes over, then let's make the sig-bet just for fun times :D .
It will probably end up selling the same once things stabalize. It's already a Top 10 book, and the Ultimate Titles and hyped 'Special Events' always usually sell somewhat better than ongoings. That may change when Ultimates Vol. 3 begins, given it's new direction and writing/artist team. Those dropping Uncanny will likely be replaced with an equal number picking it up. It's all going to balance out pretty much.

[thik_3rd]

i will one up a "sig-bet" (whatever the hell that is) and say this: if brubaker's run isn't as good as claremont's*, i will banish myself from cbr forever.

*as determined by me

[Novaya Havoc]

There are other top characters that he didn't create but he developed them into the great character that they are. Professor X, Cyclops, Phoenix IV, Polaris, Havok, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Banshee, Storm, Colossus, Magneto, Longshot, Dazzler, and Bishop, are all good examples.


Yep. I love me some Al Blaire. Definitely made him the great character he is today.

[For the Good of X]

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

[bfrank]

Uncanny = Main Title.

More will slide on the "smaller" titles (in terms of sheer volume). It's not like the three titles are full equals. That's my opinion.

Isn't Astonishing considered the "main" title now....

[Beast]

Isn't Astonishing considered the "main" title now....
According to Joe 'Hype Machine' Quesada, yes. :)

[tjarvis]

According to Joe 'Hype Machine' Quesada, yes. :)

According to sales numbers it most definitely is.

[Babylon23]

Doubtful. Why, then, would he launch a "New" Excalibur given those factors AND the poor (understated) reception of the last Excalibur?

I'm telling you... the man is a masochist.

-B (who would be 50x less hard on CC if he didn't give us Al Blaire)

I'll clarify my thoughts a bit: By launching the new Excalibur book, he can continue to write an x-title without the constant interference the main x-titles suffer. He can tell his own stories, without tieing into anything that's happening in X-Men/Uncanny/Astonishing. He can continue his Hellfire Club story seperate from Whedon's by establishing his HC as the London HC.

Also, the new NeXt title gives him the freedom to write all of the characters he loves but can't use in Uncanny. Once again, the book is seperate from the main titles, and he may be given more creative freedom.

This is, of course, all speculation. Maybe somebody can give us Claremont's thoughts/comments if he posts them on Comixfan.

[Beast]

According to sales numbers it most definitely is.
Sales numbers don't make a book the 'flagship title'. :)

[Nick Kal]

Sales numbers don't make a book the 'flagship title'. :)

It kind of does... I mean if 1 X-Book outsells the otehr 2 then it is definitely the top book of the bunch, no?

[xmanson]

Well, but I guess that if Astonishing was sellin below Uncanny (and it has sucked so much I don't see why it wouldn't), Marvel would still consider it THE book.

But hey, it will have 6 issues in a year - a single story arc. Is that what is supposed to "lead" the whole line?

[ibrakeforchinwe]

It kind of does... I mean if 1 X-Book outsells the otehr 2 then it is definitely the top book of the bunch, no?

Thats not what flagship means, for Marvel they MADE Astonishing the flagship title. The Main X-Title. It came out sporradically, due to delays and has been on hiatus for 6 months. Great flagship marvel.

[xmanson]

Oh honey, that's a horrible pic of Rachel.

Don't make us look at that thing.

[cable guy]

Writers don't always stay hot or popular. Never use popularity for any reason to pick up a book. Popularity fades. And hot becomes cold.

Agreed.

Especially replacing a legend like Claremont.

[cable guy]

The real fact of Brubaker replacing Claremont on Uncanny is all about sales figures, and the figures will go up by a few thousand units a month by having a top 10 Wizard magazine writer like Brubaker on Uncanny. It has been a long time since Uncanny has sold 100K or more units every month, but like Bendis brought the Avengers to a 100K seller month in/month out, so will Brubaker bring Uncanny to it's former 100K or more glory. So from a financial piont of view, Marvel is very wise to replace Claremont with one of the industries current hottest buzz writers in Ed Brubaker. I have no problem with Claremont's current Uncanny stuff, for me it is the best written X-Men stuff right now(although everything else is so poor right now, it's not saying much)but the Brubaker writer change has a great chance to be monumental.

Quesada, and Marvel, are all about sales figures. Which is fine, money and earnings are everything in the world today.

But Quesada is always cashing in his chips immediately, so to speak.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I hear where you're all coming from.

But at then end of the day Uncanny X-Men is the original X-Men book. The first and will always remain the definitive X-Men book. All the others are satelite titles, even Adjecvtiveless X-Men.

Astonishing sells better, yes. But it's not quite a regular title, is it? 12 issues, a break, 12 issues, who knows how far it will go. The point is it kinda doesn't count as an ongoing... But it still sells by the shed load because it has a respected writer and a coherent flow.

As things stand it certainly sells more than adjectiveless these days, and has effectively been the second X-Title this past year. I wouldn't be surprised if that didn't continue, with X-Men making way if sales figures continue to fall.

It does seem odd to replace Claremont at this point, especially as he has been a central writer of Decimation, but who knows, maybe he fancied a change himself. We'll just have to wait until the man himself let's people in on that. In the meantime he has X-Men: The End to play with, and New Excalibur goes from strength to strength.

In hiring Ed Brubaker Marvel are making a bold statement. Here we have an award winning writer who has gained a lot of respect both from fans and from the industry.

He is a modern writer with a clear respect for comic book history, and could well be the next big thing. Putting him in charge of the central X-Title announces that Marvel are still very serious about keeping the X-Men as a competitive brand. He'll bring new fans onboard, but should have the respect for the books history necessary not to piss off the X-Men faithfull.

I think this is a great appointment, and I think even Fishtaco might warm to him eventually. :D

I continue my respect for Claremont, but kind of understand why this has occurred. I only wish that the remaining X-Men title had a stronger writer on board to complete the set.

[bfrank]

Oh honey, that's a horrible pic of Rachel.

Don't make us look at that thing.
it's much better than that manson thing you've got up....

[cable guy]

Claremont deserves a lot more respect than this. Chris Claremont spent 17 years turning a dead book into the best selling franchise in the entire comic book industry.

This is my biggest problem with the whole thing. The guy is a legend, so unless he was doing a horrible job, let him do his thing.

I was surprised to hear he was even coming back to the X-Men to begin with. So much for that.

[bfrank]

Wasn't there some poll on marvel a few months ago asking what Claremont should do next?

I have no problem with him leaving Uncanny, in that I think that Betts will be following him to New Excalibur....Now if he could only have Storm back....

[The Sword Is Drawn]

it's much better than that manson thing you've got up....

Now children, play nice! :D

Each to their own.

I know that in the past Ed Brubaker has frequented this board. I really hope that this thread hasn't scared him away.

I for one am looking forawrd to this. And I hope people have the common sense to give the man a chance.

Congratulations Ed, that's one heck of a job to get! :D

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Wasn't there some poll on marvel a few months ago asking what Claremont should do next?

I have no problem with him leaving Uncanny, in that I think that Betts will be following him to New Excalibur....Now if he could only have Storm back....

The former: Yes please. It would be great to have all Braddocks under one book again... Including sorting out Jamie...

The latter: In Excalibur? I'm not sure she'd really fit in, but I can't say it sounds like a BAD idea. :D

[dazzler_slave]

Well, I have to say I am a little disappointed CC is leaving. I am always a fan, but lately, he has really stepped it up and this latest story is fantastic. I am glad to see him on Excalibur, and I think he will use a lot of his planned stories there. So far it's quality has been fantastic so at least I'll get my monthly Claremont dose.

As to Brubaker, I'm a little apprehensive, and I'll tell you why. It is not because of his writing abilities. I was a big fan of him on Batman and Gotham Central and I hear his Capt. America is great. It's just that sometimes a great writer with one type of comics can be not so great with another (ie. Milligan's X-Statix vs. X-Men and Bendis' Alias vs. Avengers. This is not a bash at other writers Brian, I respect both writers, I just think their strengths lie elsewhere). With Brubaker, I am decidedly not enjoying X-Men Deadly Genesis and I worry that his strengths do not lie with the X-Universe. Hey, I may be wrong, as I said, I am a Brubaker fan, so I will keep an open mind and hope for the best.

[bfrank]

The former: Yes please. It would be great to have all Braddocks under one book again... Including sorting out Jamie...

The latter: In Excalibur? I'm not sure she'd really fit in, but I can't say it sounds like a BAD idea. :D
honestly, they were the only interesting members of this cast....

however, it seems as though, he can not write Sage and Betts in the same pages...

[SleepWalker]

I'm a big Claremont fan, but I honestly find myself not too saddened by him leaving. I think I'm just ready for a different feel to the book. But, you see, it's all good though, because CC still has New Excalibur.

I'm just being optimistic.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

X-Men needed a new voice to guide them. To make changes and create. They haven't had that since Chuck left in 2004. With Brubaker they have the chance to really introduce a new era to the X-Men.

[jcp011c]

Wow - my computer crashes and I get a new one, and am not on the internet for four days and what happens? All hell breaks loose on CBR. First the Horseman of Apocolypse breaker and now this.

I'm sad to see Claremont go. He's always been my favorite, maybe because I started the X-books under his run back in the later 80's. To me, he IS the X-Men writer. I had hoped he'd have the honor of contuing to write until issue #500.

That said, I'm glad the Psylocke storyline will be completed, and if I had to choose any other writer to replace CC, Brubaker would have been among my top 3 choices (although where is Lobdell when you need him?!?) I like X-men Deadly Genisis so far so I do think I'll still like the series.

If only Brubaker could have been placed on another certain core X-book instead. :rolleyes:

[CURSD BLADE]

I am happy to see Claremont go. I really cut my teeth with comics on the "New Marvel" phase of the industry starting around 2000 so Claremont's scripts are just too stuck in the old-school style of writing for me. I have being told in a caption what the character is obviously doing. I hate thought balloons. I hate having dangling plot threads left for dozens of issues without any mention before they just pop out of nowhere to get resolved 20 or so issues later, if at all.

I'm not criticizing Chris Claremont's style, just pointing out what he does that makes his writing style not for me. For the fans who grew up with Claremont or the more traditional style of superheroics, its darn good stuff though. Its just not for me.

So, that is why I am estatic to see him off the book. Brubaker is everything I love about comic writers, and his style is much more suited to a newer generation of readers. I can't wait.

[Herald of Asgard]

Well, this is a pleasnt suprise!!! I love Cap, and I've been digging Deadly Genisis. So I guess Marvel has found a way to get me to subscribe to Uncanny for the first time since 1990, kudos.

[JLarson]

I might have to start collecting Uncanny X-Men trades for the first time. Cool news. Hopefully Brubaker gets to launch off with his own ideas and the characters he actually wants to use - the less I need to know about Claremont's run on the book to enjoy Brubaker's, the better.

[Neolucifer]

I'm both happy and displeased . i'm loving the idea of brubaker on the book , yet i'm unhappy to see CC leaves that way . While his run had been quite mediocre , his post HoM stuff has been quite good , even awesome . He should have been removed a good while ago , while the book was bad , now that he is getting good again they are going to remove him . Of course he is to partially blame as well for that situation .

[The Sword Is Drawn]

honestly, they were the only interesting members of this cast....

however, it seems as though, he can not write Sage and Betts in the same pages...

I totally disagree. I think there's a good cast here. And once they get going the book will be great. I have confidence in Claremont.

[cable guy]

Well, this is a pleasnt suprise!!! I love Cap, and I've been digging Deadly Genisis. So I guess Marvel has found a way to get me to subscribe to Uncanny for the first time since 1990, kudos.

This is what Marvel is looking for.

[fishtaco]

If he's writing good stories thats great, I personally don't think so, but why mention his past at all? Every writer has to deal with editors, every writer has storylines nixxed, lots of writers have fill in artists.Every writer??? Since when do Whedon or Bendis have to put up with this? They get no interference at all. As for the rest of the writers, yeah, they get interference, but they don't have to go through as much poo as Mr. Claremont does. I don't know how he tolerates it.

A book being good for the market..... I am failing to see how thats a bad thing.It isn't neccessarily a bad thing. It's if the quality of the stories go down. That's what I care about. I care more about the welfare of the X-canon and it's characters and plots as opposed to the sales.

I am also failing to see how using less characters is a bad thing. I'd rather focus on one set of characters, than the storylines getting confusing and adding to many characters. Less is more as the old saying goes. And your hatred for new characters is astounding, where would we be now if Claremont had said "Wein has invented all these X-men, and they've have a previous 70 odd issues, I don't need to use new characters" The more new characters the better!Using the five same characters over and over again gets very boring. Very boring. Especially if they are A-listers that we see in almost every single freaking issue that we buy. Even Grant Morrison used a variety of characters. Aside from his roster and his own creations, he used Magneto, Darkstar, Cannonball, Siryn, Multiple Man, Rictor, M, Archangel, Trish Tilby, Sunfire, Warpath, Feral, Thornn, Domino, Risque, Lilandra, Gladiator, Apocalypse (in a sense), The Phoenix, Sabra, Quiksilver, Toad, Thunderbird III, Storm, Unus, Polaris, Sebastion Shaw, Sabretooth, Bishop, and Sage.

By using all of these characters, Grant Morrison demonstrated that he has a deeper appreciation for more of the X-universe than just the A-listers. Grant Morrison proved that he has read a lot of the X-titles. By using a lot of these characters, it appears he even read X-Force!!!!

I disliked Grant Morrison's run, but I respect him for his appreciation of the characters that make up the majority of the X-universe, those being non A-listers.

I know this isn't about Morrison, but I'm just using him as an example of an X-Men writer (like Chris Claremont) who utilizes as much of the X-canon as possible. He touched on the Phoenix, as well as the Weapon X program, and more. That's called more creativity. But hey, it will have 6 issues in a year - a single story arc. Is that what is supposed to "lead" the whole line?Precisely. It's funny how the "flagship" book is incapable of releasing the issues on time. The book should be at least 22 issues deep by now. It's a joke. I think this is a great appointment, and I think even Fishtaco might warm to him eventually. Hey, I'll give him 3 arcs. That's pretty generous, right? I will not try to hate it, and I won't try to like it either. I want to give him a fair chance. However, nothing can change me from being angry about Claremont leaving. I doubt that Brubaker's run will be better than Claremont's (though it could be), but I won't say that it is bad because it isn't as good. X-Men needed a new voice to guide them. To make changes and create. They haven't had that since Chuck left in 2004. With Brubaker they have the chance to really introduce a new era to the X-Men.Oh, yes. You mean Peter David, right?? :D :D PAD on X-Men!!!!

[thik_3rd]

Every writer??? Since when do Whedon or Bendis have to put up with this? They get no interference at all. As for the rest of the writers, yeah, they get interference, but they don't have to go through as much poo as Mr. Claremont does. I don't know how he tolerates it.

oh yes. claremont is just a saint. no other writer in the history of comics has ever had to put up with half the stuff he had. forget being given three chances to write one comic, two of which the said comic would be a best seller no matter who wrote it. forget getting signed to exclusives. forget getting near free reign over the biggest franchise in comics for a decade and a half. the man is a saint and NO ONE ever has to put up with that kind of mistreatment.

[Tadhg]

Every writer??? Since when do Whedon or Bendis have to put up with this? They get no interference at all. As for the rest of the writers, yeah, they get interference, but they don't have to go through as much poo as Mr. Claremont does. I don't know how he tolerates it.


Every writer. Including Whedon and Bendis have had to put up with it at one time or another. Yes.

[Beast]

Every writer. Including Whedon and Bendis have had to put up with it at one time or another. Yes.
Such as Whedon not being allowed to use 'The Vision' during his Dangerous arc. Or Bendis not being able to Cosmicly Power Rogue or return Beast to his iconic Apeman form due to House of M. Or Morrison not being allowed to kill half the X-Men, including Rogue, and introduce an Evo-inspired Goth Rogue replacement. :)

[Novaya Havoc]

oh yes. claremont is just a saint. no other writer in the history of comics has ever had to put up with half the stuff he had. forget being given three chances to write one comic, two of which the said comic would be a best seller no matter who wrote it. forget getting signed to exclusives. forget getting near free reign over the biggest franchise in comics for a decade and a half. the man is a saint and NO ONE ever has to put up with that kind of mistreatment.

Claremont eats X-Men pin-ups for nourishment and donates all of his money to sick children with leukemia. He lives and BREATHES X-Men, you know.

So just remember... every time you buy a non-Claremont book, you're forcing that poor man into a home for the abused with no hope for his future. All he wants to do is love his creations and share them with you... why won't you help him put food on his table by supporting him now?!?!!!!! :(:(:(

[X-Men Forever]

Claremont eats X-Men pin-ups for nourishment and donates all of his money to sick children with leukemia. He lives and BREATHES X-Men, you know.

So just remember... every time you buy a non-Claremont book, you're forcing that poor man into a home for the abused with no hope for his future. All he wants to do is love his creations and share them with you... why won't you help him put food on his table by supporting him now?!?!!!!! :(:(:(

This is all true ;) . Claremont once saved my life as well.

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Another problem with the moves:


let's see..

Marvel goes from CC writing 2 regular books and a series ("X-Men:The End")


- to a writer that is writing even more books (and no other team books?).

How about having one new writer focus on no more than 2 books? It seem when comics became hug, the number of spin-offs grew, but the number of artists and writers dwindled down to a few "Convention names".


Maybe, Claremont cannot handle more than 1, but give another writer "Excalibur" after the re-launch.

The other X-books seem far more boring than UXM, and CC continues to sell in a "watered-down market".

The only thing that a new writer can do that interests me is retire Cyclops, and the other originals for awhile.

[Jake V]

So just remember... every time you buy a non-Claremont book, you're forcing that poor man into a home for the abused with no hope for his future. All he wants to do is love his creations and share them with you... why won't you help him put food on his table by supporting him now?!?!!!!! :(:(:(
I think he'd actually enjoy that.

[Jake V]

Another problem with the moves:

let's see..

Marvel goes from CC writing 2 regular books and a series ("X-Men:The End")

- to a writer that is writing even more books (and no other team books?).
Brubaker is only writing one ongoing (captain america) right now. Next month he'll be doing Daredevil. By the time he starts Uncanny, his 2 minis, Books of Doom and Deadly Genesis will be wrapped up. So he'll only be doing 3 books. Basically the same as Claremont is currently. Only one of those books will be a team book.

I don't see that much of a difference.

[bfrank]

I totally disagree. I think there's a good cast here. And once they get going the book will be great. I have confidence in Claremont.
how are they going to get going when he's off the book :confused:

[Keith_Martineau]

This whole "he'll be writing too many books!" argument is silly anyway.

Cause it'll be just like now (or less) because instead of writing Deadly Genesis, he'll be writing Uncanny.

Man thats some tough math.

[fishtaco]

Maybe, Claremont cannot handle more than 1, but give another writer "Excalibur" after the re-launch.For the last 2 years, Claremont has been writing 3 books at the same time, and they are all good. I'm sure he can handle doing more than one book at a time. New Excalibur is here to stay, X-Men: The End is still going on, and he has NeXt after that. He might get a new project at Marvel.

Is CC Marvel exclusive?

[Jake V]

For the last 2 years, Claremont has been writing 3 books at the same time, and they are all good. I'm sure he can handle doing more than one book at a time. New Excalibur is here to stay, X-Men: The End is still going on, and he has NeXt after that. He might get a new project at Marvel.

Is CC Marvel exclusive?
Interestingly enough, his 2 year exclusive contract runs out at the same time his Uncanny run ends.

[thik_3rd]

For the last 2 years, Claremont has been writing 3 books at the same time, and they are all good.

survey says


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[Novaya Havoc]

LOL!!!

I absolutely love you. And you have the Chipettes as your avatar.

Take me now. <3

[Brian Cronin]

Note that this is all of you folks' second chance at this. If I see any sort of rude posting in this thread, I will be handing out some bans.


Well, I got my first volunteer.

Anyone care to join him?

-Brian

[Twigglet]

Well, I got my first volunteer.

Anyone care to join him?

-Brian

Did you ban Think 3rd for his "Survey says" post? Or was another deleted?

[Brian Cronin]

The former.

Left it up there to give ya an idea of the fouls I'm calling/my strike zone.

-Brian

[bfrank]

not to step on any toes, and not to pretend like I care, but there are worse posts than that by non banned folks....

[Twigglet]

not to step on any toes, and not to pretend like I care, but there are worse posts than that by non banned folks....

Yeah, I felt it qas quite tame really.

But I suppose I'm not the mod :p

[heretic]

After Winter Soldier? I'd not let this guy write fanfiction.

Get someone like Vaughn on UXM then we can talk about booting Claremond in mid-storyline with a straight face.

HTG

[Beast]

After Winter Soldier? I'd not let this guy write fanfiction.

Get someone like Vaughn on UXM then we can talk about booting Claremond in mid-storyline with a straight face.

HTG
BKV commented recently that he didn't want to do anymore X-Men at the moment.

[Will.S]

After Winter Soldier? I'd not let this guy write fanfiction.
Madness.

Anyway I'm really glad to have Brubaker take the reigns. Couldn't find a more capable writer and I'd love to see what artist he's going to be paired up with as well as what villains he'll use alonside the third Summers brother.

[Tennoarashi]

I'm gone.

Well, I was when Storm left - I was gone, but now I'm really gone.

[Frank]

OK, here`s my new take on this:

I think the main reason CC didn`t do stellar work in the past years on X-Men is that he didn`t have full control of that Universe. What they should have done is have him write both X-Men and Uncanny X-Men, go wild with it and be the sole master of that Universe. He would have complete control, Carte Blanche. Leaving Astonishing X-Men as this novelty act, almost outside of the regular X Universe. Then when Whedon/Cassaday finish their run, you have Brubakera and Bryan Hitch doing their own run of Astonishing X-Men. You would have the main titles as the established Iniverse run by their Main Creator, Claremont. And when other high profile creators would want to dig into that Universe, they would do it in that Astonishing format. And I would propose other concepts such Spider-Man and the FF to do that too.

[Hombre]

I think the main reason CC didn`t do stellar work in the past years on X-Men is that he didn`t have full control of that Universe. What they should have done is have him write both X-Men and Uncanny X-Men, go wild with it and be the sole master of that Universe.

That's one of the several reasons 2000 AD was possibily Marvel's most exciting year since the dawn of the 90s. Claremont writing both X-Men and Uncanny, forget about it.

You know, when the New Avengers were announced there was a lot of furor and people were saying that Quesada didn't care for Internet opinion. I think this move goes towards disproving that. I think by turning Uncanny over to an accredited writer such as Brubaker (who'll do a great job) when it was much more reasonable to have him concentrate on Captain America and Daredevil, prove just how great he can be, and eventually make him move on to writing a different type of book like the Avengers or the X-Men, by doing this, they want to play it safe.

Quesada may be enthusiastic about his work, but it's still also business to him, and he's got to weigh real world concerns, he knew Bendis would have been embraced in the long term, just as he knows Claremont, or Priest for that matter, is more trouble than he's worth, there's too much latent hostility towards him and that'll make him only a hassle in the long term. He probably figured it'd be better to confine him to a peripheral book with a lighter tone that sort of limits its scope.

[aderechelsea]

i am a big fan of Brubaker's writing but i don't know how his style will fit, not the X-Men but rather the X-fans.

Like Casey who is a terrific writer but had a bad start and it was all downhill from then on...

[Mia]

I heard about this news and was rather disapointed. I was just getting back into the X-Men. I like Ed and I loved the second half of his run on Catwoman. But to be frank he can be a bit boring. I can see his style fitting Daredevil, but not the X-Men. I hope Claremont will be back soon.

[fishtaco]

OK, here`s my new take on this:

I think the main reason CC didn`t do stellar work in the past years on X-Men is that he didn`t have full control of that Universe. What they should have done is have him write both X-Men and Uncanny X-Men, go wild with it and be the sole master of that Universe. He would have complete control, Carte Blanche. Leaving Astonishing X-Men as this novelty act, almost outside of the regular X Universe. Then when Whedon/Cassaday finish their run, you have Brubakera and Bryan Hitch doing their own run of Astonishing X-Men. You would have the main titles as the established Iniverse run by their Main Creator, Claremont. And when other high profile creators would want to dig into that Universe, they would do it in that Astonishing format. And I would propose other concepts such Spider-Man and the FF to do that too.I would like that, but it's not humanely possible. I doubt and human being can write X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, New Excalibur, Wolverine, X-Factor, Cable and Deadpool, Generation M, Sentinel Squad One, X-Men: The 198, X-Men: The End, NeXt, etc and still have a life outside of comic books. :p

My ideal X-franchise...

Uncanny X-Men by Chris Claremont and Salvador Larrocca
X-Men by Peter David and Andy Park
Amazing X-Men by Louise Simonson and Greg Land
The New Mutants by Chris Yost, Craig Kyle, and Mark Brooks
X-Factor by Peter David and Ryan Sook
Excalibur by Chris Claremont and Alan Davis
Factor-X (excalibur vol. 2) by Chris Claremont and Aaron Lopretsi
Exiles by Tony Bedard and Oliver Coipel
Wolverine by Larry Hama and Marc Silvestri
Longshot by Ann Nocenti and Bill Sienkewicz
Cable and Deadpool by Fabian Nicieza and Patrick Zircher

It will never, ever happen, but that's just what I think would be perfect.

Joe Quesada said last week that he will talk about the creative team switch (s?) today on his column at Newsarama. :)

[The Sword Is Drawn]

how are they going to get going when he's off the book :confused:

Since when was Claremont off New Excalibur?

[Titan76]

Get someone like Vaughn on UXM then we can talk about booting Claremond in mid-storyline with a straight face.

HTG
I don't think that would be a good idea. Vaughn was used to writing the X-characters in a different way in the Ultimate universe, Xavier being the biggest example. I don't think his style would fit the MU X-men.
Plus I never did care for his Ultimate X-men and was really glad to hear him leave the book.

[Frank]

I would like that, but it's not humanely possible. I doubt and human being can write X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, New Excalibur, Wolverine, X-Factor, Cable and Deadpool, Generation M, Sentinel Squad One, X-Men: The 198, X-Men: The End, NeXt, etc and still have a life outside of comic books. :p


Now I didn`t say Claremont should write all the books! What I meant by being the one and only Master of that Universe, was him writing X-Men and Uncanny X-Men, not X-Factor and other spin-offs. He was control is corner of the Universe basicly. And maybe even have Editorial guidance for the rest of the line.

[Nevets F]

I would pass out from over whelming joy if Chris had the whole x-line.

[AnthonyJ]

For reference, CC posted some information at X-fan:

Dear One-&-All:

To the best of my knowledge, my final issue on Uncanny is the concluding issue of the "First Fallen" arc, with Chris Bachalo, #474. Rachel will be staying in Uncanny, Betsy will not.

Cordially,

Chris Claremont

http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showpost.php?p=1166946&postcount=171

[Beast]

For reference, CC posted some information at X-fan:

http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showpost.php?p=1166946&postcount=171
Well good, hopefully they're letting him keep Betsy.... after all the trouble he took bringing her back to life. :)

[Bard]

I really didn't like Brubaker's run on Wonder Woman, but that may have been because she's such a complex character for some to grasp. I do not know if I'll like his first attempts on X-Men, but I will at least give the man a chance to sway my doubts.

[Frank]

Well good, hopefully they're letting him keep Betsy.... after all the trouble he took bringing her back to life. :)

Well that`s great since I don`t buy Excalibur. :D Na na na na hey hey hey Goodbye!

[Mitsaso]

I'm glad to hear that Claremont is off Uncanny X-Men. He was great back when he first created the X-Men as we know them, but nowadays I find his style quite tiring. He still has a good grasp on the characters, but sometimes he hammers facts into the reader too many times, not to mention using the same storylines over and over again. Nice characterisation byt never liked his modern books plot-wise.

Of course Claremont still has his devoted following, so I think he should stick forever with a book like New Excalibur where he can do as he pleases and he will keep his fans happy. I think this change of writers is for the best ;)

Now, I'm waiting for Deadly Genesis in tpb to read, but I had a glimpse in Brubaker's take on The Authority. I think when he comes on borad it will be the first time I'll be buying all core X-Books at the same time (love Milligan and Whedon already!). :D

[Tadhg]

I really didn't like Brubaker's run on Wonder Woman, but that may have been because she's such a complex character for some to grasp. I do not know if I'll like his first attempts on X-Men, but I will at least give the man a chance to sway my doubts.

I know they've worked together but Greg Rucka and Ed Brubaker's names don't even look alike.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I know they've worked together but Greg Rucka and Ed Brubaker's names don't even look alike.


I was wondering that myself. I was thinkin " When the hell did Ed Brubaker ever do Wonder Woman ? And what was his run ? " ;)

[bfrank]

Since when was Claremont off New Excalibur?
there's your problem...I wasn't talking about New Excalibur (Neither Storm nor Betts is a member at present time)

[Doom Hammer]

The one thing that needs to be stressed more than anything else is that Brubaker is awesome.

His Captain America is brilliant. Whether you agree with the Winter Soldier twist or not, the story is amazingly-written on pretty much all levels. It's made me a Cap fan.

Books of Doom, I cannot reccommend any higher. It's the touching and heart-breaking story of the man who would become Doom.

Deadly Genesis, 2 issues in, is spectacular. It's creepy, it's nifty, and it's very suspenseful. I can't wait for future installments.

I can't wait for Brubaker's Daredevil, and I absolutely cannot WAIT for his Uncanny X-Men. I've said my bit about respecting Claremont, which I do believe and all, but I'm seriously looking forward to Brubaker, (who's quickly becoming my favorite Marvel writer), taking over Uncanny.