Things you want explained in the new Star Wars TV show [Archive]

shades of eternity

01-16-2006, 04:34 PM

The big one showing of both boba fett and darth vader as thee dangerous villians and why they inspire such fear.

2. If mace windu somehow lived espisode III, boba fett needs to slay him...end of story.

3. Stay the hell away from the romance scenes. George lucas cannot do them, end of story.

4. Avoid cameoitus. although they can probably do it better in a series, don't go overboard.

5. Take only what is best from the limited material from this era. For example, in the pretty lousy droids cartoon, there was this kickass kobok (bug guy with poisoned spines) bodyguard. Done with the right technology behind him, he would seriously rock.

6. Avoid contradiction at all cost. It will only piss off the fans.

7. Most importantly of all, tell a story that allows us to care about the characters that are introduced. Consult with Kevin smith and josh whedon or better yet find somebody new, but make sure character development and good story telling occurs.

That should cover the basics :)

Davideaux

01-16-2006, 06:10 PM

Maybe Leia could tell us who was the better kisser: Han or Luke?

blackdragon6

01-16-2006, 06:25 PM

the rise of the rebelion,it always bothered me that george lucas never put those deleted parts with bail,and amadala back in the dvd.i HOPE he has plans for a exstended dvd.

handOFfate

01-16-2006, 07:59 PM

These are questions I want answered and things I'd like to see...
1. how Chewbacca went from a wookie general to a smuggler.
2. Han and Chewie's first meeting
3. a few episodes detailing what the jedi who survived order 66 (there had to be some) deal with the rest of their lives
4. a few episodes based on the rebel forces: how they started, their allies. Maybe they could do an episode that chronologically takes place just before A New Hope that shows how they got the death star plans
5. Where Boba Fett went after Attack of the Clones, and how he becomes a bounty hunter
6. Maybe an origin story of sorts for Yoda. What species is he, anyway?
7. I honestly wouldn't mind a few stand-alone episodes that have little to nothing to do with the main story. The Star Wars universe is a fascinating place and there could be a lot of great non-jedi stories

Patient Boy

01-16-2006, 08:08 PM

My number one question:

Why was the dialogue between Padme and Anakin so bad?

tricksterpup

01-16-2006, 08:55 PM

it always bothered me that george lucas never put those deleted parts with bail,and amadala back in the dvd.i HOPE he has plans for a exstended dvd.
I do not think it would ever happen, lucas is a jackass that way. I would love to see an extended dvd of the original starwars ep 4 to show all the scenes that were taken out with Biggs that were there in the original showing. But as time went own, he removed them. I also remember that they took out scenes that had all of Luke's friends hanging out. I would love to see that.
I think Lucas would have made a bigger mint if he would have done a release of the dvd with 2 versions, original theatrical release version and that of the final release.

Bored at 3:00AM

01-16-2006, 09:14 PM

My number one question:

Why was the dialogue between Padme and Anakin so bad?

You see, there was this, uh, space virus, see. That, um, infected everyone in the universe during this period which caused everyone to act and speak like were written by a middle-aged man who watched too many Flash Gordon serials.

Yeah, that's the ticket...

Chintzy Beatnik

01-16-2006, 09:45 PM

I want to know who Boba Fett disintigrated to make Vader concerned that he'd do it again.

marshal99

01-16-2006, 09:52 PM

They should just show Boba Fett's earlier bounty hunter days prior to the star wars trilogy to show why he is the galaxy's no.1 bounty hunter.

blackdragon6

01-17-2006, 06:05 AM

3. a few episodes detailing what the jedi who survived order 66 (there had to be some) deal with the rest of their lives
if i'm not mistaken vader suppose to spend the next 20 years hunting them doown

SlightlyMad

01-17-2006, 07:44 AM

Maybe Leia could tell us who was the better kisser: Han or Luke?

Actually, it was Chewie! ;)

I want to know how the Force was relegated to "sorcerous ways" and an "ancient religion" within the space of 16 years.

cactusmaac

01-17-2006, 07:51 AM

I do not think it would ever happen, lucas is a jackass that way. I would love to see an extended dvd of the original starwars ep 4 to show all the scenes that were taken out with Biggs that were there in the original showing. But as time went own, he removed them. I also remember that they took out scenes that had all of Luke's friends hanging out. I would love to see that.
I think Lucas would have made a bigger mint if he would have done a release of the dvd with 2 versions, original theatrical release version and that of the final release.

I don't think those scenes were in any theatrical cut.

Brock

01-17-2006, 08:22 AM

All I've got is

What happened to Palpatine's entourage (the blue guy with the horns and the pasty looking bald lady) to get them out of the way before Episode IV?

TheUnknownZombie

01-17-2006, 08:32 AM

Did George Lucas suffer some kind of terrible head injury between the OT and the prequels?

Bored at 3:00AM

01-17-2006, 10:42 AM

Did George Lucas suffer some kind of terrible head injury between the OT and the prequels?

No, he just stopped relying upon other talented directors and screenwriters to get his ideas across.

Although the original Star Wars was directed and written by Lucas, the script had an uncredited polish by Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz, which loosened up a lot of the stiff dialogue and gave the film a much stronger, and much needed, sense of humor. In the next two films, the scripts were written by others like Lawrence Kasdan and directed by people who actually engaged the actors on an emotional level.

The prequels were all written & directed by Lucas. There was a co-writer on Attack of the Clones and Tom Stoppard apparently did a polish on Revenge of the Sith, but the prequels are largely all Lucas, whereas the original films were far more of a collaborative effort, in terms of the writing and direction.

Chiasm

01-17-2006, 10:46 AM

I want to know how Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru went from looking like they stepped out of Dawsons Creek at the end of Sith to being geriatrics in just under 20 years.

StoneGold

01-17-2006, 11:09 AM

I want to know how Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru went from looking like they stepped out of Dawsons Creek at the end of Sith to being geriatrics in just under 20 years.
Actually, that one is pretty easy. 20 years in the desert ain't kind to a person.

tricksterpup

01-17-2006, 11:12 AM

I want to know how Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru went from looking like they stepped out of Dawsons Creek at the end of Sith to being geriatrics in just under 20 years.
Its from TROOPS, Beru was a drunk and I am sure they did not moisturized enough.

Crimson Avenger

01-17-2006, 11:18 AM

Having to deal with two suns probably didn't help Owen & Beru retain their youth, either.

shades of eternity

01-17-2006, 11:38 AM

another question is how much did the late great jim henson help with the aliens.

quite frankly most of the aliens in the prequals were kinda racist.

blackdragon6

01-17-2006, 11:42 AM

its a tv show not a essay on star wars people :)

anyways i wanna know what was yoda doing on dagobah those 20 years

blackdragon6

01-17-2006, 11:50 AM

oh yeah one more thing I absaloutely love the CLONE WARS cartoon and I think they should fills the gap between Episode 1 and 2. It's a 10 year grap so there is lots of stuff that can be covered.

ChrisII

01-18-2006, 04:53 PM

Like to see some more about Tarkin (Possibly played by Wayne Prygam as he was in SITH-but hopefully with more screen time and better makeup!). Tarkin was a pretty important character in the first film, but what we got in the prequels amounted to only a cameo. Although some of Tarkin's backstory has been fleshed out in some of the novels, there's really been nothing major done with the character.

Henson really only advised a bit on Yoda. It was his colleague and fellow muppeteer Frank Oz who was the voice and 'hand' behind Yoda, although in the last two prequels Yoda was only voiced by Oz (Oz has also for the most part relinquished his muppet duties to another mupeteer).

The Batman

01-19-2006, 11:11 AM

perhaps adventures of a certain helmeted bounty hunter in the era between Episodes III and IV with the expansion of the Empire in the background. honestly there's nothing that i really want explained that would be able to support an ongoing television series.

my only real concern about this is that it doesn't become a tale of Luke Skywalker's youth; a sort of Smallville in the Star Wars universe.

Grant

01-19-2006, 12:54 PM

Darth Vader frees all of the slaves on Tatooine only to put the entire planet under Empire control.

Captain Trips

01-19-2006, 01:34 PM

I want to know how the Force was relegated to "sorcerous ways" and an "ancient religion" within the space of 16 years.

The only people in the original films who referred to the Force as a religion and the Jedi as sorcerers or mystics were those who were totally skeptical of all of it. The Jedi had been gone for nearly twenty years by the time of Episode IV. The people making those comments (like Han Solo and the guy Vader chokes in the meeting room) were only in their early teens then. 20 years is a long time to maintain a clear recollection of something, and it's easy for events and people who have been absent for so long to become the stuff of folk tales or relegated to nonsense.

The Batman

01-19-2006, 01:50 PM

^^^

we also have to consider any efforts by the Imperials under Darth Sidious/Emporer Palpatine to discredit the Jedi. there's no telling what affect anti-Jedi propaganda might have over 20 years.

Captain Trips

01-20-2006, 05:43 AM

^^^

we also have to consider any efforts by the Imperials under Darth Sidious/Emporer Palpatine to discredit the Jedi. there's no telling what affect anti-Jedi propaganda might have over 20 years.

Yeah, that's a good point. I am sure there was a lot of brain-washing or discrediting of the Jedi order in the ranks of the Imperial armies.

tricksterpup

01-20-2006, 08:49 AM

The only people in the original films who referred to the Force as a religion and the Jedi as sorcerers or mystics were those who were totally skeptical of all of it. The Jedi had been gone for nearly twenty years by the time of Episode IV. The people making those comments (like Han Solo and the guy Vader chokes in the meeting room) were only in their early teens then. 20 years is a long time to maintain a clear recollection of something, and it's easy for events and people who have been absent for so long to become the stuff of folk tales or relegated to nonsense.

I actually agree with Slightlymadd on this, if they were so big a army and good, how could people have viewed them as fantasy?

But hey, I will be flammed for this but I would love to see what happened to JAR-JAR. :D

SlightlyMad

01-20-2006, 08:56 AM

Exactly. There must have been plenty of people in their 50s, 60s & so on who must clearly remember Jedi & tales of their exploits. People denying their existence when order 66 only went through 16 years previously (age of Luke at start of Episode IV) are even more ridiculous than those nutjobs who try to claim that the holocaust never happened.

p.s. The only way I'd be interested in finding out what happened to Jar-Jar is if we get to see him die a terrible death! :evilsmile

StoneGold

01-20-2006, 08:58 AM

I actually agree with Slightlymadd on this, if they were so big a army and good, how could people have viewed them as fantasy?

The Jedi were supposed to be on the decline even before the purge. Part of why they had to fill their ranks with padewans and such when they did the attack in Ep II. So there might not have been a ton of Jedi wandering the universe, righting wrongs at that point. The order seemed pretty small. And even if there were, oh, let's say 1000 Jedi, you could go your entire life without ever seeing one.

StoneGold

01-20-2006, 09:01 AM

Captain Trips

01-20-2006, 10:49 AM

I actually agree with Slightlymadd on this, if they were so big a army and good, how could people have viewed them as fantasy?

Yeah, I agree with Stone Gold that there was not an army of Jedi. Several times in the prequels it is mentioned that there aren't enough Jedi to stop systems from leaving the Republic, and during the first battle of the Clone Wars on Geonosis there are only around 200 Jedi involved. They were never an army, but a peace-keeping force. Throughout the entire galaxy the percentage of those who had actually seen a Jedi would be pretty low. Hearing of someone's exploits but never actually having seen them makes it easy to discredit. Also, I agree that the Jedi order was in decline by the time of Episode II.

Exactly. There must have been plenty of people in their 50s, 60s & so on who must clearly remember Jedi & tales of their exploits. People denying their existence when order 66 only went through 16 years previously (age of Luke at start of Episode IV) are even more ridiculous than those nutjobs who try to claim that the holocaust never happened.

Realize that all vestiges of the Jedi order had been erased from public consciousness. If something is out of sight and out of mind for 20 years, and every last shred of that something has been wiped out leaving no trace that it ever existed, would the majority of people really remember it well? I doubt it.

Without looking looking it up on the internet can you name some of the top news stories of just 10 years ago? What do you remember about the ones you can recall? The point is that people will forget or have their memories become skewed without any confirmation of past events. I know it happens to me.

yeoman

01-20-2006, 11:04 AM

Yeah, I agree with Stone Gold that there was not an army of Jedi. Several times in the prequels it is mentioned that there aren't enough Jedi to stop systems from leaving the Republic, and during the first battle of the Clone Wars on Geonosis there are only around 200 Jedi involved. They were never an army, but a peace-keeping force. Throughout the entire galaxy the percentage of those who had actually seen a Jedi would be pretty low. Hearing of someone's exploits but never actually having seen them makes it easy to discredit. Also, I agree that the Jedi order was in decline by the time of Episode II.

Realize that all vestiges of the Jedi order had been erased from public consciousness. If something is out of sight and out of mind for 20 years, and every last shred of that something has been wiped out leaving no trace that it ever existed, would the majority of people really remember it well? I doubt it.

Without looking looking it up on the internet can you name some of the top news stories of just 10 years ago? What do you remember about the ones you can recall? The point is that people will forget or have their memories become skewed without any confirmation of past events. I know it happens to me.

Not to mention that most of the people we saw decry the Force and Jedi were high ranking imperials.

And Solo, but he would have been a kid when the Jedi were wiped out, and I'm not sure the Force itself was all that well understood by the general public.

Kirayoshi

01-20-2006, 11:42 AM

Having to deal with two suns probably didn't help Owen & Beru retain their youth, either.Makes sense. I mean, really, Obi-Wan went from being played by Ewan McGregor to Alec Guiness in 20 years!

I want to know what happened to Naboo during the interrim. We never heard of it during Eps. IV through VI, and we never saw any Gungans during that time. My theory is that the Empire tested the Death Star's superlaser on Naboo first. Maybe as a way of Darth Vader erasing his past.

StoneGold

01-20-2006, 11:48 AM

Makes sense. I mean, really, Obi-Wan went from being played by Ewan McGregor to Alec Guiness in 20 years!

I want to know what happened to Naboo during the interrim. We never heard of it during Eps. IV through VI, and we never saw any Gungans during that time. My theory is that the Empire tested the Death Star's superlaser on Naboo first. Maybe as a way of Darth Vader erasing his past.
Or the Emperor. Keep in mind where he was a senator from.

cactusmaac

01-20-2006, 12:20 PM

tricksterpup

01-20-2006, 12:22 PM

Makes sense. I mean, really, Obi-Wan went from being played by Ewan McGregor to Alec Guiness in 20 years!

I want to know what happened to Naboo during the interrim. We never heard of it during Eps. IV through VI, and we never saw any Gungans during that time. My theory is that the Empire tested the Death Star's superlaser on Naboo first. Maybe as a way of Darth Vader erasing his past.
Yep, it could've been Darth's way of hunting down and destroying JAR-JAR.

Captain Trips

01-20-2006, 12:44 PM

Naboo's still around.

They show victory celebrations (and a whole lot of Gungans) there in the ending scenes of the ROTJ DVD.

edit - There are only about 200 Jedi at Geonosis because Mace only had time to bring the Jedi present at the Temple with him.

Naboo and the Gungans survive the empire. If you listen during the Naboo celebration scene in ROTJ you will hear a familiar sounding voice shouting "Weesa free!"

I agree with you about Mace bringing the Jedi at the temple to Geonosis with him, but that was probably the largest gathering of Jedi in any one place. I would be willing to bet that the Jedi ranked less than 10,000 total before the fall of the Republic.

The Batman

01-21-2006, 03:22 PM

another way to look at the "ancient superstition" and "sorcery" comments is to view them as a matter of word choice. by the time of the prequels the Force had been used by Jedi Knights for "over a thousand generations" to quote Obi-Wan Kenobi from Episode IV; i think that could certainly qualify as an "ancient" religion. also the Emperor described his disfiguration to the Senate in Episode III as a result of Jedi sorcery; sorcery could just be another way of describing preternatural abilities. as for superstition, well it's possible that someone with no firsthand experience of the Force might describe it as a superstition, especially after nearly 20 years without seeing it in practice. we could also expect that references to the Force as a "superstition" could simply be the result of Force-atheism; people being sceptical about the existence of something that they haven't seen, felt, or experienced. not entirely dissimilar to skepticism directed towards Christianity today for example.

DonC

01-22-2006, 08:29 AM

These are questions I want answered and things I'd like to see...
1. how Chewbacca went from a wookie general to a smuggler.
2. Han and Chewie's first meeting

At some point between movies, Chewie is captured by the Empire and put to work as a slave. (The first scenes of Kashyyyk being raided for slaves are in the novel Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader.) Up-and-coming Imperial officer Han Solo hates slavery and frees Chewie. Chewie then declares a life debt to Han and refuses to leave his side. So when Han became a smuggler, so did Chewie.

Chevan

01-22-2006, 08:54 AM

I'd like to see at least a mention of the Qui-Gon Blue-Ghostie bits that were cut from Ep. III, if not the whole conversation.

blackdragon6

01-22-2006, 09:45 AM

I want to know what happened to Naboo during the interrim. We never heard of it during Eps. IV through VI, and we never saw any Gungans during that time. My theory is that the Empire tested the Death Star's superlaser on Naboo first. Maybe as a way of Darth Vader erasing his past.i heard that the 2nd girl ( Queen Apailana) whom took over amadalas position was assasinated,soon after the first replacement stepped down.basicly because she took to secretely harbouring several of the outlawed Jedi Knights who had survived Order 66 on Naboo.
........so i hear

Tish-the-Scorpion

09-19-2007, 06:21 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/SW_TV_teaser.jpgi can't wait this long DAMN!!!

The Batman

09-19-2007, 06:24 PM

Where's that from?

blackdragon6

09-19-2007, 06:29 PM

Where's that from?wikipedia i think...i'm not totally sure.BTW i forgot all about this show :p

Comic_Mobsta

09-19-2007, 06:36 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/SW_TV_teaser.jpgi can't wait this long DAMN!!!Why bother?,Its not even worth discussing yet,Unlike clone wars which is coming next year.

Tish-the-Scorpion

09-19-2007, 06:41 PM

Why bother?,Its not even worth discussing yet,Unlike clone wars which is coming next year.
stop being a stick in the mud mike,you juiced up freak.seriously lay off the roids bruh :p

Sabrina_Fried

09-19-2007, 06:56 PM

specifically i'm talking about the 2009 live action show not really the clone wars cartoon thats set in 2008.i personally think it needs to be like a quasi anthology series that covers multiple characters that plays a huge part in the EU (yeah i got into the Dark horse comics as of late).

What do I want "explained" in the new TV shows?

Nothing. Absolutly nothing.

The last thing I want from what could be long term Star Wars TV shows is essentially spackle and paint for continuity and canon. Or as someone else put it, an "essay about Star Wars." I want entertaining stories set in the Star Wars universe. That's it. If they happen to chronicle key events that have never been chronicled before that is perfectly fine, but the story has to come first.

Sabrina

Thorlief

09-19-2007, 07:52 PM

what happens to Coruscant while the empire takes place

what Yoda does after EP3 (I mean, he doesnt fly directly to Degobah doesn't he)

Qui-Gon's tragical lack of combat skills explained

Tish-the-Scorpion

09-19-2007, 07:56 PM

what Yoda does after EP3 (I mean, he doesnt fly directly to Degobah doesn't he)

in fact i think he did...

J. Robb

09-19-2007, 08:03 PM

What I would like explained: What exactly did the Sith want revenge for?

For all I know, the Jedi might have had it coming...

The Batman

09-19-2007, 08:10 PM

in fact i think he did...

One of the scenes cut from the montage at the end of Episode III involved Bail Organa dropping Yoda off on Dagoba so yeah he probably did.

Tish-the-Scorpion

09-19-2007, 08:22 PM

One of the scenes cut from the montage at the end of Episode III involved Bail Organa dropping Yoda off on Dagoba so yeah he probably did.
i did think he had adventures of his own on dagobah though.

lonewolf23k

09-19-2007, 09:04 PM

Not to mention that most of the people we saw decry the Force and Jedi were high ranking imperials.

And Solo, but he would have been a kid when the Jedi were wiped out, and I'm not sure the Force itself was all that well understood by the general public.

Don't forget that prior to his life as a smuggler, he was trained as an Imperial Pilot, meaning he probably got a fair dose of anti-Jedi propaganda along the way.

Thorlief

09-20-2007, 03:45 AM

i did think he had adventures of his own on dagobah though.

oh well, if its the case then I'm equally curious

The Zapper

09-20-2007, 11:06 AM

I wouldn't count on things like Han being an imperial pilot or any other thing that's not in the movies. The EU is expendable as the PT showed us.

Black Atom

09-20-2007, 11:13 AM

I want them to explain how Obi-Wan aged 40 years in the span of 20 and how everyone forgot about the Force in just as long.

Seriously, though, I'm with Sabrina. Just tell good stories. No lame, fanwanking cameos like teenage Lando. Just good stories.

The Zapper

09-20-2007, 11:15 AM

I want them to explain how Obi-Wan aged 40 years in the span of 20

I blame it on the twin suns and him being Engli...I mean from a non-desert planet.

The Batman

09-20-2007, 11:53 AM

I blame it on the twin suns and him being Engli...I mean from a non-desert planet.

It's all that sun, like twice as much as here, and that dry air. All the fancy Force hocus pocus and midichloirans in the galaxy isn't going to make up for not having a decent moisturizer.

Black Atom

09-20-2007, 11:59 AM

Good point. Look at Beru--she hit the wall hard.

The Batman

09-20-2007, 12:42 PM

I know, from supercute to fugly brute in no time at all.

Maybe blue milk is full of fug particles?

Fug particles could be like the new midichlorians.

Captain Trips

09-20-2007, 12:46 PM

Jack

09-20-2007, 01:56 PM

Don't forget that prior to his life as a smuggler, he was trained as an Imperial Pilot, meaning he probably got a fair dose of anti-Jedi propaganda along the way.
Yeah, I was going to point that out. He probably had a class in "The-Jedi-Were-All-Frauds-and-We-Rock Studies".

the goddamn batman

09-20-2007, 02:34 PM

I want them to explain how Obi-Wan aged 40 years in the span of 20

He looks like he's supposed to be about 35-40 in Ep III and looks about 55-60 in Ep IV. What needs to be explained?

Popgun

09-20-2007, 02:44 PM

I don't think we can dismiss the twin suns things when it comes to Obi-Wan's aging, but I was thinking that maybe it also had something to do with the training that Yoda has in store for him at the end of Episode 3. Maybe it took a great toll on him physically in order to prepare himself to learn to become one with the Force.

Just a thought. But living out in the desert by yourself for twenty years talking to a dead guy (Qui Gonn) can't do much for your quality of life.

It actually isn't as far off as you might think - if Obi-Wan was, as the publicity at the time of TPM suggested, 26 when we first saw him, then he would be 39 by the time of ROTS and 58 at the time of ANH. Guinness was 62 at the time of filming.

The Batman

09-20-2007, 02:48 PM

He looks like he's supposed to be about 35-40 in Ep III and looks about 55-60 in Ep IV. What needs to be explained?

Or you know, we could all accept that it's just a series of movies and stop nit picking that sort of shit.:rolleyes:

Dude, sometimes geeking out about this stuff is half the fun.

Also you're pretty close to dead on with regards to Obi-Wan's timeframe there. I think we're getting used to people, especially movie people looking so youthful anymore that seeing Alec Guiness as Obi-Wan is a bit of a shock.

Tish-the-Scorpion

09-20-2007, 03:15 PM

with all do respect white people age fast over the years...

DonC

09-20-2007, 03:40 PM

The big one showing of both boba fett and darth vader as thee dangerous villians and why they inspire such fear.

2. If mace windu somehow lived espisode III, boba fett needs to slay him...end of story.

Mace Windu does indeed survive Revenge of the Sith. But Boba Fett catches up to him. (http://www.atomfilms.com/film/jedi_hunter.jsp)

Pól Rua

09-21-2007, 12:07 AM

Frankly, I'd be happier if they forgot about 'explaining' a bunch of nerd minutiae and concentrated on telling exciting space adventure stories.

ChrisIII

09-21-2007, 06:38 AM

Captain Trips

09-21-2007, 12:10 PM

It actually isn't as far off as you might think - if Obi-Wan was, as the publicity at the time of TPM suggested, 26 when we first saw him, then he would be 39 by the time of ROTS and 58 at the time of ANH. Guinness was 62 at the time of filming.

Yeah, I agree with you. I think a lot of what makes it not quite look right is the simple fact that two different actors played the part. Although Ewan did look the part pretty damn well.

The Batman

09-21-2007, 01:23 PM

A recent interview with Lucas at www.tvguide.com has stated that there will probably be no Jedi in the series (I suppose he's leaving that to the Dark Times comic and the force unleashed game) and that it will focus more on the rise of the Empire.

That was a surprisingly good interesting interview with Lucas. Aside from the Star Wars stuff, it was nice to see him give props to two great shows: Rome and Deadwood.

Toonimator

09-21-2007, 02:53 PM

I don't want much 'explained' either. I'd rather have the good space adventures, good stories, than "oh, by the way, THIS is why that turned out the way it did". Much as I love geek minutiae, I don't need it here.

Some of the things that people want 'explained' could easily be shown in the course of telling other stories, bits about the Empire rising and converting more things from the Republic way to a dictator-run government (sorta like how Biggs describes commercial shipping or whatever to Luke in the cut Tosche Station scene, which the EU conveniently ignored when they made the "Darklighter" story in the EMPIRE comic and made Biggs into an Imperial despite the very dialogue from the cut scene, yet had the balls to depict PART of the cut scene in the comic! I love the EU overall, but this might be my #1 most hated EU tale).

I'd also like to see more established EU incorporated into the 'official canon' (ie, what the movies-only-EU-sucks crowd consider as 'canon'). Nothing major forced on it, just some locations perhaps, some species, name drops, things like that. Someone could go flying around in a Z-95, maybe we'll spot some Noghri doing Vader's dirty work, visit Corellia and see Rostek or Hal Horn interact with some of the characters, stuff like that. As long as it's good and fun and doesn't go out of its way to trample on every aspect of the EU through ignorance or malice, I'll be fine.

Jared

09-21-2007, 05:07 PM

i heard that the 2nd girl ( Queen Apailana) whom took over amadalas position was assasinated,soon after the first replacement stepped down.basicly because she took to secretely harbouring several of the outlawed Jedi Knights who had survived Order 66 on Naboo.
........so i hear

IIRC, one of the single player missions in Battlefront II involves hunting down Jedi on Naboo that have been harbored by the Royals.

I think Lucas is saying there won't be Jedi main characters. But I'd say it's virtually for certain that a surviving Jedi will show up at some point. The plot point where Obi Wan and Yoda send out a warning signal from the temple pretty much demands it. Beyond perhaps a few "hey, was that kid in the background supposed to be?..." type some cameos, I doubt we'll see Young Han, Young Leia etc... Their exploits will be (and already have been, to some extent) covered in other media. But there are some continuity gurus at LFL, so maybe we'll get a few little nods here and there. Like somebody name-dropping a "Captain Thrawn", or a Wanted poster with the Jedi from Dark Times posted on a cantina wall. I do really hope that Jimmy Smits is interested and available in doing something though, especially as the show's timeline gets closer to Episode IV.

It's interesting that Lucas really is planning to film a whole season of the live action show before selling it. I guess, with Star Wars in the title, it's pretty much guaranteed to find a spot, unless they ask for a ridiculous price.

Alec Guiness was in his early 60s when A New Hope was filmed. So if Obi Wan looks way older than it seems like he should, just remember that some people age more dramatically than others. Or just tell yourself, "the old wizard did it."

asloveislost

09-22-2007, 05:34 AM

i wanna see how darth vader slacks off on his lightsaber skills and becomes crap enough to lose to luke.
;)

pariah-1972

09-22-2007, 04:20 PM

I would want someone to explain to me how Anakin went from an obnoxious spoiled brat to a calm cool villian with a british accent.
:confused:

Jared

09-22-2007, 06:30 PM

I would want someone to explain to me how Anakin went from an obnoxious spoiled brat to a calm cool villian with a british accent.
:confused:

Becoming a horribly disfigured cripple because of a hot-headed mistake can do wonders to calm a person down. On a deeper level, Vader is completely cut off from the things he was passionate about as Anakin Skywalker. The british accent (if one could call it that, I think it's just how James Earl Jones sounds) would come from hanging out with Palpatine and other Brit-sounding politcos on Coruscant.

As far as actually seeing Vader's character transition from Dark Emokin to the Vader we all know and love, there's the novel Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (which I've never read), and a new book telling the saga from Vader's perspective for younger readers (ditto).

As far as comics go, there's still Anakin-esque Vader in the Purge one-shot which is collected in Clone Wars Volume 9. And I know Vader is appearing in Dark Times, which is currently set not long after Episode III.

pariah-1972

09-22-2007, 06:35 PM

Becoming a horribly disfigured cripple because of a hot-headed mistake can do wonders to calm a person down. On a deeper level, Vader is completely cut off from the things he was passionate about as Anakin Skywalker. The british accent (if one could call it that, I think it's just how James Earl Jones sounds) would come from hanging out with Palpatine and other Brit-sounding politcos on Coruscant.

As far as actually seeing Vader's character transition from Dark Emokin to the Vader we all know and love, there's the novel Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (which I've never read), and a new book telling the saga from Vader's perspective for younger readers.

As far as comics go, there's still Anakin-esque Vader in the Purge one-shot which is collected in Clone Wars Volume 9. And I know Vader is appearing in Dark Times, which is currently set not long after Episode III.One would think being horribly disfigured and becoming part cyborg and losing his new wife and kids would make him even more angst ridden and crazy...
I've always thought James Earl Jones had a slight British accent.
what is this "Dark Times" is it a book or what?

The Batman

09-22-2007, 06:40 PM

Becoming a horribly disfigured cripple because of a hot-headed mistake can do wonders to calm a person down. On a deeper level, Vader is completely cut off from the things he was passionate about as Anakin Skywalker. The british accent (if one could call it that, I think it's just how James Earl Jones sounds) would come from hanging out with Palpatine and other Brit-sounding politcos on Coruscant.

As far as actually seeing Vader's character transition from Dark Emokin to the Vader we all know and love, there's the novel Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (which I've never read), and a new book telling the saga from Vader's perspective for younger readers (ditto).

As far as comics go, there's still Anakin-esque Vader in the Purge one-shot which is collected in Clone Wars Volume 9. And I know Vader is appearing in Dark Times, which is currently set not long after Episode III.

Dark Lord only shows the first steps of Anakin moving towards OT era Vader but does a really good job of explaining what it's like to be trapped in that suit and be part cyborg.

Not that bad, all things considered as far as Star Wars EU material goes.

Jared

09-22-2007, 06:54 PM

One would think being horribly disfigured and becoming part cyborg and losing his new wife and kids would make him even more angst ridden and crazy...
I've always thought James Earl Jones had a slight British accent.
what is this "Dark Times" is it a book or what?

I figure the only way to cope with losing all that is to make himself dead to those old feelings, and embrace his new identity.

James Earl Jones is from Mississippi. What might make him sound sort of British is his stuttering problem; he has to think about everything before speaking it carefully. Perhaps that makes his sound more 'proper'.

'Dark Times' is currently an ongoing series by Dark Horse comics.

The Batman

09-22-2007, 06:58 PM

Dark Lord, or Star Wars: Dark Lord - The Rise of Darth Vader, is a novel that was released shortly after Revenge of the Sith and chronicles the events between the movie, the comic oneshot Star Wars: Purge the ongoing Dark Times series.

I think it's out in paperback now.

pariah-1972

09-22-2007, 07:10 PM

I figure the only way to cope with losing all that is to make himself dead to those old feelings, and embrace his new identity.

James Earl Jones is from Mississippi. What might make him sound sort of British is his stuttering problem; he has to think about everything before speaking it carefully. Perhaps that makes his sound more 'proper'.

'Dark Times' is currently an ongoing series by Dark Horse comics.Hmmm thats a reasonable interpretation which is far more than we got from Lucas so far.
so are you saying that i'm the only one who thought James Earl Jones sounded british?

Jared

09-22-2007, 08:00 PM

so are you saying that i'm the only one who thought James Earl Jones sounded british?

Probably not, he just doesn't really sound that way to me. I've read and seen interviews where he talks about doing Vader's voice, and I don't recall any mention of him putting on an accent. That said, it's entirely possible that he was. I'm no expert on dialects and accents, but I think it's just the way that he naturally sounds, whether he's in Field of Dreams or those CNN commercials.

pariah-1972

09-22-2007, 08:08 PM

Probably not, he just doesn't really sound that way to me. I've read and seen interviews where he talks about doing Vader's voice, and I don't recall any mention of him putting on an accent. That said, it's entirely possible that he was. I'm no expert on dialects and accents, but I think it's just the way that he naturally sounds, whether he's in Field of Dreams or those CNN commercials.I'm not saying he put on a british accent for Vader im saying he always sounds british.

mattx110

09-22-2007, 08:10 PM

Hmmm thats a reasonable interpretation which is far more than we got from Lucas so far.
so are you saying that i'm the only one who thought James Earl Jones sounded british?
for anakin
i never thought of it like that. but well, the main evil leads were pretty british, hang out with cushing long enough, you'll want to talk like that. he probably just had to relearn to speak using his new burned out throat so he thought he'd take on a cool accent too.

as for james earl jones... that's just how serious actors speak when they get around long enough. never know when you wanna go do shakespeare on the fly... patrick stewart is from long island;)

that last sentence is a lie.

but seriously, palpatine's last disciple was a silent tattooed guy who was not well read. maybe vader had better education because palp couldn't take being alone in a spaceship scouring the universe for jedi with a mute moron.

Jared

10-16-2007, 12:38 PM

Possibly spoiler-ish "scoop" about the show. Grains of salt are recommended.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34451

The Mutt

10-16-2007, 01:22 PM

Darth on Golf.

Tish-the-Scorpion

10-17-2007, 06:34 AM

Possibly spoiler-ish "scoop" about the show. Grains of salt are recommended.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34451
great no more wooden acting...

Sabrina_Fried

10-18-2007, 05:19 PM

Possibly spoiler-ish "scoop" about the show. Grains of salt are recommended.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34451

Mentioned that in my column this week. Personally I'm hoping that AICN is way off the mark on these rumours because the more I hear this stuff about the live action show, the less I want to see it.

But hey, they have at least two years to change their minds.

Sabrina

Thorlief

10-18-2007, 05:25 PM

A recent interview with Lucas at www.tvguide.com has stated that there will probably be no Jedi in the series (I suppose he's leaving that to the Dark Times comic and the force unleashed game) and that it will focus more on the rise of the Empire.

oh, nice. They just cut out the only one reason I consider the Star Wars movies cool.

I hope it's not true

Jared

10-19-2007, 12:38 PM

Mentioned that in my column this week. Personally I'm hoping that AICN is way off the mark on these rumours because the more I hear this stuff about the live action show, the less I want to see it.

But hey, they have at least two years to change their minds.

Sabrina

Good point about how the timing of the proposed writer's strike could seriously affect the show's planned debut. George Lucas has already quit the Director's Guild, but he isn't planning to script every episode of the first season by himself.

I wouldn't be so worried about how much pod-racing will be a factor, and so forth. My impression is that it'll probably be a plot element in a episode or two, not that the whole story will revolve around it. It's probably something like the intrepid hero/smuggler/bounty hunter gets caught up in a scheme involving some dangerous gangsters who fix the races. Given the cost and time required, I can't imagine there will ever be a big racing sequence ala Episode 1.

Black Atom

10-19-2007, 12:47 PM

oh, nice. They just cut out the only one reason anyone considers the Star Wars movies cool.

I hope it's not true

Fixed it for you. I heard Lucas say this before, though. It could still be a good show, but it wouldn't feel all Starwarsy. Say what you want about the Prequels, they at least had that going for them.

Quilt

10-19-2007, 03:36 PM

I don't want anything explained for this new Star Wars television show. What I want is for a candid George Lucas to step up during the first minute of the show, and apologize for the whole prequel fiasco. I want to see tears in his eyes for such an emotionally truthful moment. Then he states the prequels never happened, and he didn't make a Star Wars television show. Then half an hour of dead air.

That's the Star Wars television show I want to see. Then maybe good ol' George could move onto something OTHER than Star Wars and Indiana Jones for the first time in two decades.

Popgun

10-20-2007, 12:46 AM

I'd like to see some romance for Darth Vader...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NdSL2NUoWk&mode=related&search=

Quilt

10-20-2007, 07:31 PM

I'd like to see some romance for Darth Vader...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NdSL2NUoWk&mode=related&search=

I have to amend my previous post. THIS is the Star Wars television show I want to see. "I'm such an idiot." Masterful. Simply masterful.

blackdragon6

10-21-2007, 04:15 PM

heres what bugs me though...they're making these episodes before a network even picks them up (same with the live action show too i think).but so far Lucas states that the networks seem uninterested in both the projects.despite that it has the title star wars.in a way i kinda think what Lucas is doing is irresponsible financially speaking.i think he's taking a huge risk.but you would think the networks would be all over his nuts to get these shows on their network...

The Batman

10-21-2007, 04:21 PM

1) It's his money, literally, to piss away if he wants to.

2) He's worth like $4 Billion dollars or something. I don't think money is something he needs to worry about.

3) I'd be genuinely surprised if no one is interested in these. I mean, the Star Wars brand can't be in that bad of shape can it? Despite all the criticism people still went to the Prequels in droves, there's not reason to think that this show won't prove just as popular.

Tish-the-Scorpion

10-21-2007, 04:28 PM

3) I'd be genuinely surprised if no one is interested in these. I mean, the Star Wars brand can't be in that bad of shape can it? Despite all the criticism people still went to the Prequels in droves, there's not reason to think that this show won't prove just as popular.i think its about control...the networks won't have it.it'll be all Lucas,and the other writers on these shows that'll have final say so.which is why it might be unappealing to the networks (probably why halo is held up too,Microsoft want absolute control).theres also the fact that its HARD sci-fi unlike heroes,and lost.these type of shows fail miserably on major networks.

The Batman

10-21-2007, 04:37 PM

What about Sci-F or one of the cable channels?

Thorlief

10-21-2007, 05:04 PM

3) I'd be genuinely surprised if no one is interested in these. I mean, the Star Wars brand can't be in that bad of shape can it? Despite all the criticism people still went to the Prequels in droves, there's not reason to think that this show won't prove just as popular.

dude, I'm telling you. If there are no Jedi it will be a fiasco, and the producers will eat their nails thinking about what's gone wrong. Who the hell cares about the rise of the empire if you aren't going to throw some jedi action in it. They have all the necessary billions to create some amazing action, and rumor has it Jedi wont be present. I personally don't believe it but still.
Blaster action? Count me out.

The Zapper

10-21-2007, 05:08 PM

I'll believe that no station is interested when I see the show not get on a network. Until then, I call BS.

The Batman

10-21-2007, 05:09 PM

Guys like Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Boba Fett were all cool and they weren't Jedi. I think it's possible to have good Star Wars without the Jedi front and center. Besides, most of the Jedi were wiped out at this point in the story anyway.

Tish-the-Scorpion

10-21-2007, 05:12 PM

What about Sci-F or one of the cable channels?
well if Lucas plans on funding it himself then sure i guess.

Tish-the-Scorpion

10-21-2007, 05:13 PM

I'll believe that no station is interested when I see the show not get on a network. Until then, I call BS.well thats what Lucas said....

The Batman

10-21-2007, 05:15 PM

well if Lucas plans on funding it himself then sure i guess.

I was under the impression that he was financing this himself. Also, aren't the writers already at work on the scripts?

The Zapper

10-21-2007, 05:15 PM

The Zapper

10-21-2007, 05:16 PM

well thats what Lucas said....

Do we believe everything people in show biz tell us?

the goddamn batman

10-21-2007, 05:20 PM

dude, I'm telling you. If there are no Jedi it will be a fiasco, and the producers will eat their nails thinking about what's gone wrong. Who the hell cares about the rise of the empire if you aren't going to throw some jedi action in it. They have all the necessary billions to create some amazing action, and rumor has it Jedi wont be present. I personally don't believe it but still.
Blaster action? Count me out.

Well, clearly you're right because nothing has ever succeded without "Jedi Action!"

You know, the original three Star Wars movies were pretty devoid of said "jedi action". It's the shitty prequels that are full of it.:p

Also? I like to completely dismiss a show based on a few comments instead of, you know, actually watching the show. Books by their covers and all.:rolleyes:

The Batman

10-21-2007, 05:31 PM

Here (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/10/star-wars-the-s.html?xid=rss-cnn-todayslatest-20071012) is some info about Lucas's plans to produce 13 episodes and then shop them around to various networks. He's going to finance them himself, presumably like he does the movies.

Here (http://www.theforce.net/swtv/story/Big_Time_Live_Action_Series_Rumors_109484.asp) are some rumours about the series from Aintitcoolnews that theforce.net put together. Worth looking at but we should probably take them with a grain of salt.

This (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/homeentertainment/la-ca-indiana21oct21,0,6671181.story?coll=la-home-entertainment) is from the LA Times. It's mostly about Lucas and the upcoming Young Indy DVD set but there's a few bits about the new shows too. All and all a good read.

http://hem.bredband.net/wookiee/development/title_page.jpg

DonC

10-21-2007, 05:33 PM

I was under the impression that he was financing this himself. Also, aren't the writers already at work on the scripts?

Last I recall, Lucas was looking for writers, but that there were a couple scripts done. I think. The problem is there are two Star Wars series in the works so it's easy to get them confused.

I do know there are seven episodes of the animated series already finished.

The Batman

10-21-2007, 05:35 PM

In putting together that link digest post I found the article that I'd read. Lucas has a meeting with a bunch of writers coming up to set out story ideas for the first 13 episodes.

At least that's what the rumour is.

Thorlief

10-21-2007, 06:15 PM

A New Hope barely had any Jedi "action", so I guess it sucked then? The show is years away. I think it's a little premature to start saying it sucks, unless you don't like Star Wars in the first place.

I agree, but I wouldnt have given a crap about the original movie if it was just some random spaceships at war. The whole concept of the Jedi gave the movie such a unique flavour

The Batman

10-21-2007, 06:17 PM

Who's saying the concept of the Jedi and the Force won't be there?

Tish-the-Scorpion

10-21-2007, 06:22 PM

Do we believe everything people in show biz tell us?why would he lie about that?

Tish-the-Scorpion

10-21-2007, 06:24 PM

I do know there are seven episodes of the animated series already finished.from what i heard theres more than 7.

Thorlief

10-21-2007, 06:51 PM

Who's saying the concept of the Jedi and the Force won't be there?

let me elaborate: the first movie introduced the concept, and it was a darn good concept. The movie was unique because of that (and the special effects) since noone had seen such stuff on screen before. Then they moved on and started showing duels and tricks here and there (there were some in the first movie, but it wasn't that important: Vader reflecting Han's laser beams, Yoda lifting a X-wing etc etc until the prequels, which were a orgy of stunning fiughts and jedi fashion. I personally can't imagine a Star Wars movie without Jedi and duels.

wouldn't it be kind of hard to step back to the mere concept of the Force nowadays?