Latest Joker casting rumour (please let this be true)

[SlightlyMad]

Johnny Depp! (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060112c.php) Plus Rachel Weisz as Talia.

[reddkryten]

I don't want to take that with a truckload of salt, I want to take that with a little note that says "I'm 100% true."

Johnny Depp makes everything good.

And Justin Theroux as Harvey Dent wouldn't hurt either, he already knows Christian Bale.

[sgt.candy]

would crispin glover circa when back to the future was made been a good joker?

[SlightlyMad]

I think Crispin Glover could still make a good Joker (he was suitably manic in the Charlie's Angels movies). Other contender's could include:

Adrien Brody
Jason Lee
Paul Bettany
Christian Slater

But Depp hasn't put in a bad performance yet & I'd love to see him play a villain.

[Kamen Rider Might]

I don't like Johnny Depp. In fact, I think he's a psycho man. Just what he needs to be if he plays the Joker.

[lonewolf23k]

Depp's a fantastic actor.. and if indeed he's the one they get to play the Joker, then by golly it's going to be sweet.. If anyone can combine manic insanity with disturbing comedic genius, it's Johnny Depp.

[reddkryten]

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2543/Events/2543/JohnnyDepp_Vespa_3317606_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Depp,%20Johnny

He IS The Joker.

[lonewolf23k]

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2543/Events/2543/JohnnyDepp_Vespa_3317606_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Depp,%20Johnny

He IS The Joker.


Got any pics of him smiling? That's how we could really tell...

[fanboy d]

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4508/image17470671jb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/630/ed49hx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9716/untitled17ml.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


best. rumour. ever.

brittany murphy as harley quinn, throw in the Man-Bat as one of Joker's pranks and i think i'd go crazy enough to be commited to arkham. :)

[SteelTownr]

Of course, Jack Nicholson was the best choice to play the Joker back in 1989, but I can remember Ray Liotta's name being mentioned at the time and I always thought that he would have been great.

Mark B.

[fanboy d]

Of course, Jack Nicholson was the best choice to play the Joker back in 1989, but I can remember Ray Liotta's name being mentioned at the time and I always thought that he would have been great.

Mark B.

mark hamill's animated joker is better than nicholson's live action one. i'm going by attitude. but who cares? DEPP!

[SteelTownr]

mark hamill's animated joker is better than nicholson's live action one. i'm going by attitude. but who cares? DEPP!

That's your opinion, of course.

Mark B.

[zombie]

I think Adrien Brody would be good, at least by his looks. His giant nose makes me think Joker.

[Lubichev]

Please, no Johnny Depp. I think he is very talented, but I don't think he's the guy to play the Joker.

[Lubichev]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c368/Lubichev/cassell.jpg

Gimme Vincent Cassel. THAT would be great.

[Mia]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c368/Lubichev/cassell.jpg

Gimme Vincent Cassel. THAT would be great.

Oh and his wife Monica Bellucci as Talia would even be better! I hope that they don't cast Johnny Depp as the Joker. He would steal the film from Bale. Please let it go to a lesser known actor.

[EZMOHR]

I like Johnny Depp, and I think he will make a good Joker, but I say that John C. McGinley from Scrubs would be the perfect Joker. Hell, he plays him every week on Scrubs. And I say go with somone more, uhm, exotic, than Rachel Weiszz as Talia. I mean, Rachel Weiszz is a great actress and damn hot, but, she doesn't look like Talia.

[Slappy san]

I like Johnny Depp, and I think he will make a good Joker, but I say that John C. McGinley from Scrubs would be the perfect Joker. Hell, he plays him every week on Scrubs. And I say go with somone more, uhm, exotic, than Rachel Weiszz as Talia. I mean, Rachel Weiszz is a great actress and damn hot, but, she doesn't look like Talia.

Then you'll end up like the Bond movies. Exotic chicks who couldnt act or speak English well. I still can't believe that the same chick dubs a bunch of the Bond girls.

[Erebus]

Their scooper gives blind item rumours for two characters, interestingly enough one of them is entirely new in terms of being on film - "This is the first screen appearance for this character in the Batman films and she has a very close connection with a major character in Nolan's first Batman movie. She will be out for revenge against Bruce Wayne and Gotham in a major way. As of who the studio is looking at for this role, let's just say that she is nominated for a SAG, a Golden Globe and is on her way to an Oscar nomination as well. She is also in fact five months pregnant and will be in tip top fighting shape once production begins to roll early next year but not before she throws a few coins in a fountain".
Who wants to bet there talking about Talia? Hmmm, does anyone know who there hinting as playing her?

[kmeyers]

Johnny Depp could be awesome as the Joker.

I never even thought of Johnny before as the Joker...Crispin Glover would be good too, but if this is true about Depp, I'd be happy.

[titanfan]

They should basically have their pick of actors to play the Joker. It seems like *everyone* in Hollywood wants to play the Joker, even actors who normally wouldn't be caught dead in a comic film otherwise.

[Cyke]

There was a false rumor going around that Michael Keaton would be the Joker in a cruel ironic twist for Bat-fans everywhere.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind that rumor being true.

[Justin D.]

I don't want Johnny Depp as Joker. He seems like an easy go to guy a lot of times.

"Who should we get? .. I know! Johnny Depp."

I prefer someone like Christian Bale. Someone with a much lower profile. And I'm pretty sure that's the direction they'll go in. They obviously made enough money with the first one that they feel confident enough with their choices.

[kmeyers]

I don't want Johnny Depp as Joker. He seems like an easy go to guy a lot of times.

"Who should we get? .. I know! Johnny Depp."

I prefer someone like Christian Bale. Someone with a much lower profile. And I'm pretty sure that's the direction they'll go in. They obviously made enough money with the first one that they feel confident enough with their choices.
but, that's the thing...Batman Begins recieved much acclaim, critical, and box office. Everyone wants to be the Joker, especially now.

[redlantern2051]

Johnny Depp!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am probably the biggest Johnny Depp fan on the planet!!!! He would be great!!! He's ALWAYS great!!!!

[ScottDMSimmons]

Seems to me the best woman character to have in a Joker-related Batman movie is Harley Quinn rather than Talia. I like Talia, but I'd rather see Harley.

As far as Depp goes, I'm sure he'd do fine. However when I saw Wedding Crashers I thought Bradley Cooper looked alot like the Joker. He really took his smile to a psychotic level in that movie. I can't find a picture to do it justice, but if you saw the movie, it was really like a Joker grin. He was also on Alias, and in Changing Lanes.

--Scott

http://handson.provocateuse.com/images/photos/bradley_cooper_01.jpg

http://www.antoniogenna.net/alias/immagini/bcooper/010.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/wedding_crashers/bradley_cooper/crasherprek2.jpg

[Error_2.0]

I prefer Sam Rockwell or Adrien Brody.

[Space Poo]

I think Johnny Depp could do Joker... he's great at transforming into characters. BUT... I'd like to see Jason Lee as Joker. He has a genuinely crazed look to him.

I also like Sam Rockwell.

[StoneGold]

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpghttp://www.theincrowdvlog.com/incrowdvlog/list/film/images/Sarah%20Jessica%20Parker.jpg


I can't tell them apart!!!

[kmeyers]

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpghttp://www.theincrowdvlog.com/incrowdvlog/list/film/images/Sarah%20Jessica%20Parker.jpg


I can't tell them apart!!!
you're evil!

[Kirayoshi]

I think Johnny Depp could do Joker... he's great at transforming into characters. BUT... I'd like to see Jason Lee as Joker. He has a genuinely crazed look to him.

I also like Sam Rockwell.I can see Jason Lee as the Joker. All he'd have to do is mix equal parts Azrael from "Dogma" and Syndrome from "The Incredibles".

The problem with casting Depp as the Joker is that he would end up overshadowing everyone else, even Christian Bale's Batman. He's good, but he'd overpower the mix. Besides, he'd probably end up looking like a more evil version of Captain Jack Sparrow.

[reddkryten]

Jason Lee was my casting pick (Holy Bartender), but I can't say no to Depp.

Johnny Depp can upstage everyone in any film, he stole "Once Upon A Time In Mexico" from Antonio Banderas, but the Joker is very theatrical and bright, Batman is in the shadows, it doesn't matter who plays the Joker, he will always upstage Batman.

And he's basically wearing the Joker's costume here
http://www.johnnydeppweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=34&pos=54
http://www.johnnydeppweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=34&pos=33
http://www.johnnydeppweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=34&pos=83

[Peter]

Got any pics of him smiling? That's how we could really tell...

Just remember some of his scenes back in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".

He certainly had a smile that said "creepy as all get-out" when he tried.

[reddkryten]

Like this one?
http://www.johnnydeppweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=281&pos=9

[Peter]

I have to agree with the majority, though, I think --

The only problem with Depp as the Joker is that he'd be *too* good. He would completely steal the show away from Bale's Batman (which just shouldn't happen ever, because Bale just *nailed* Batman so perfectly).

[Peter]

Like this one?
http://www.johnnydeppweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=281&pos=9

Definitely what I was thinking of.

[Kamen Rider Might]

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpghttp://www.theincrowdvlog.com/incrowdvlog/list/film/images/Sarah%20Jessica%20Parker.jpg


I can't tell them apart!!!

Wow. That's harsh, man.

[Michael P]

That's your opinion, of course.

Mark B.
No, it's scientific fact.

[Shellhead]

There was a false rumor going around that Michael Keaton would be the Joker in a cruel ironic twist for Bat-fans everywhere.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind that rumor being true.

That's weird, but I do see your point.

On the one hand, I think that Johnny Depp is a great actor, a cool guy, and he has done a great job of picking movies, but I don't think that he's manic enough to play the Joker. Maybe. I didn't that Willie Wonka movie, but Depp's comic turn as Cap'n Jack Sparrow might be close to what he would do as the Joker.

On the other hand, I'm not much of a fan of Michael Keaton. I thought that he was an awful choice to play Batman, and he has worked on too many lame movies. But he has a certain manic energy, a crazed gleam in his eyes that make me think he would be a very good Joker.

[lonewolf23k]

Like this one?
http://www.johnnydeppweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=281&pos=9


Yikes! ...Oh yeah, we're talking perfect match here..

As for upstaging Batman.. ...Joker has always upstaged Batman in all media adaptations.. Cesar Romero upstaged Adam West, Jack Nicholson upstaged Michael Keaton, Mark Hamill upstaged Kevin Conroy...

It all depends on whether or not the upstager is haming it up (like Nicholson did) or really earning the spotlight (like Hamill did). And I think Depp can earn that spotlight. Mark Hamill's Joker is greatly remembered because Mark managed to make the character amusing and entertaining, as well as darkly disturbing.

I mean, if you're going to have a Joker on the big screen, you need to get a guy who can deliver lines like this:

The Joker: Jumpin' Jiminy Christmas. Charlie Collins! It's been forever. How are you man? You look great... lost a little weight. Lost a little hair too.

The Joker: Okay, Chaz, when Harley knocks on the door three times, you open it.
Charlie: And?
The Joker: That's it.
Charlie: Wait. That's the favor? You called me here just to open a door?
The Joker: Well look at the size of that cake, man! She can't open the door and push it in all at once! THINK!!!
Charlie: (to himself) He is nuts!

The Joker: "I'm the Joker...living proof that you don't have to be crazy to host this show, but it helps."

The Joker: You're right, Harl. Fish are disgusting. Maybe I'll try my toxin out on cattle instead. Joker Burgers! Talk about a Happy Meal.

Now.. tell me honestly you don't think Johnny Depp can't deliver lines like that as well as Mark Hamill can. ...With a straight face.

[Grant]

The problem with casting Depp as the Joker is that he would end up overshadowing everyone else, even Christian Bale's Batman. He's good, but he'd overpower the mix.

Isn't that the whole point of the Joker? His character demands the spotlight. I don't think an understated Joker would be all that interesting.

[Kirayoshi]

Isn't that the whole point of the Joker? His character demands the spotlight. I don't think an understated Joker would be all that interesting.I agree that the Joker should be front and center, craving the limelight and essentially being the living embodiment of chaos, but not to the point where you forget Batman is even there! It's about balance, which is the one problem I had with the Burton/Schumacher Batman villains. The villains always outshone the Bat. Seriously, you know you're in trouble when you're losing viewers to Mr. Freeze!

Especially that Mr. Freeze!

[StoneGold]

I agree that the Joker should be front and center, craving the limelight and essentially being the living embodiment of chaos, but not to the point where you forget Batman is even there! It's about balance, which is the one problem I had with the Burton/Schumacher Batman villains. The villains always outshone the Bat. Seriously, you know you're in trouble when you're losing viewers to Mr. Freeze!

Especially that Mr. Freeze!
Once you get into the deeper end of the rogues gallery though, they're almost always going to be more attention getters than Batman. Given that he's all stoic, and they're all wacky. It's why Yul Brenner kept getting pissed off at Steve McQueen in Magnificent Seven.

[reddkryten]

The Joker: Jumpin' Jiminy Christmas. Charlie Collins! It's been forever. How are you man? You look great... lost a little weight. Lost a little hair too.

This has nothing to do with the topic, but that was my favourite Batman TAS episode.

[Justin D.]

Wow. That's harsh, man.

But not untrue. Never have thought she was attractive. Now, I'm scared she'll go on a killing spree.

[Waffles]

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/cms/2004/large/Paul_Giamatti_-_rs_964965_People_of_the_Year_-_lg.6765204.jpg

That's Joker. Look at that freakin' eye brow! :D

[Mr. Croup]

Paul Giamati is too short to play the Joker, but he might be good as the Mad Hatter. Depp would be a better Harvey Two-Face, or the Riddler. Why not get John Glover, the guy that plays Lionel Luthor, to play the Joker.

How about Bruce Payne, the guy that played Passenger 57, and Damadar in the Dungeons & Dragons movies. Hell, all they would have to do is put the white make-up on him to pull it off.

Here is a picture of him, http://imdb.com/gallery/hh/0668271/HH/0668271/brucepayne.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Payne,%20Bruce%20(I)

[Waffles]

Jackman is too tall to play Wolverine. I can play that card to. :)

[reddkryten]

Giamati isn't cool enough to play The Joker?

[Waffles]

You actually have that all backwards. He's too cool to play Joker. He's also such a great actor that he could lower himself to Joker's level. :)

[StoneGold]

Jackman is too tall to play Wolverine. I can play that card to. :)
Slightly different card in this case. In that Batman would have a solid 4 inches on the Joker.


That, and does anyone believe Giamatti would stand up long against Bale punching him repeatedly in the face?

[Trystenn]

May be in the minority but i think MArk Hamil himself might do the perfect Joker, might help get rid of his whole little Star Wars thing as well.

[Trystenn]

That, and does anyone believe Giamatti would stand up long against Bale punching him repeatedly in the face?
No but id love to see him try.

[StoneGold]

May be in the minority but i think MArk Hamil himself might do the perfect Joker, might help get rid of his whole little Star Wars thing as well.
Sadly, no.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/sky_captain_and_the_world_of_tomorrow/mark_hamill/skyprec.jpg

[Trystenn]

Sadly, no.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/sky_captain_and_the_world_of_tomorrow/mark_hamill/skyprec.jpg
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Mother of Gawd.



Well if he was like 10 years younger he would have been the perfect fit, that or they could just do a cgi Joker.

[StoneGold]

.....................................
Mother of Gawd.



Well if he was like 10 years younger he would have been the perfect fit, that or they could just do a cgi Joker.
Sadly, no. Hamill, in 1991's The Guyver

http://www.markhamill.com/images/guyver.jpg


Although he does have the Ceaser Romero mustache...

[Trystenn]

Sadly, no. Hamill, in 1991's The Guyver

http://www.markhamill.com/images/guyver.jpg


Although he does have the Ceaser Romero mustache...
D*mn and to be honest i would only have pciked him or Crispin Glover for the part, i guess im stuck with Glover, not that its a bad thing.

[fanboy d]

i like a lot of these suggestions based on looks and attitude, jason lee is a smart one, but i have faith in depp that i don't have in the majority of the other considerations. plus, that whole 'overshadowing thing, that's goyer's choice not depp's.

[Grant]

I agree that the Joker should be front and center, craving the limelight and essentially being the living embodiment of chaos, but not to the point where you forget Batman is even there! It's about balance, which is the one problem I had with the Burton/Schumacher Batman villains. The villains always outshone the Bat. Seriously, you know you're in trouble when you're losing viewers to Mr. Freeze!

Especially that Mr. Freeze!

I think that Bale is just as good actor as Depp is and able to stand on his own. Ultimately I hope they cast someone who has enough chemistry with Bale we'd be interested in the both of them. But I'm exicted by the notion (even though I don't by the rumour) that the Depp and Bale would share the screen. I think the two could play off each other pretty wel since they both make interesting choices.

The Burton/Schumacher movies sufered mainly from their scripts which gave more time and more interesting stories to the villans. The last movie was more interested in Batman/Bruce Wayne (to a fault I'd argue).

I'd also like to remind everyone this is just a rumour. No one even knows when they will shoot the next Batman movie.

[Paradox]

Slappy san casts the backdrop:

Then you'll end up like the Bond movies. Exotic chicks who couldnt act or speak English well. I still can't believe that the same chick dubs a bunch of the Bond girls.

I don't know why they'd waste anyone who can act on Talia. If they have her be anything like the one in the comics, a maniquin will do.

[pennywisdom]

It's only a rumor, but I like it.

I think Depp would be better for this role than Crispin Glover (Depp has more presence and acting ability) and definitely better than some of the nuttier choices, like Michael Keaton and Jason Lee. Depp is either one of Hollywoods biggest eccentrics, or else he fakes it very convincingly. For the Joker, you want to get somebody who personifies controlled chaos, a dark sense of humor, and a completely unorthodox style of delivery. Take a look at any Depp film... Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Ed Wood, even family films like Pirates of the Carribbean display his knack for being completely askew. He's the best choice I've heard so far, although I still like my original pick, which was Jude Law.

To be honest, I like Depp more than Nicholson for this character. Nicholson was a great casting decision and an even better actor, but I don't know that he was strange enough to make the character complete. Jack was good at giving the Joker that whole "sneering gangster with a weird sense of humor" thing, but he wasn't as subtle and perverse and Depp is.

[pennywisdom]

I don't know why they'd waste anyone who can act on Talia. If they have her be anything like the one in the comics, a maniquin will do.
You mean an ethically ambiguous character torn in a shakespearean decision as to whether to pursue the man she loves, or her father's vision of utopian destiny? Yeah, that sounds pretty boring to me, too.

[Waffles]

Slightly different card in this case. In that Batman would have a solid 4 inches on the Joker.

That, and does anyone believe Giamatti would stand up long against Bale punching him repeatedly in the face?


http://www.devir.com.br/noticias/imagens_news/batman_3.jpg


Does anyone believe that Joker would stand up long against Batman punching him repeatedly in the face? :eek:

[Paradox]

pennywisdom goes with theory:

You mean an ethically ambiguous character torn in a shakespearean decision as to whether to pursue the man she loves, or her father's vision of utopian destiny? Yeah, that sounds pretty boring to me, too.

Sadly, in execution, she more often than not just manically switches between "I love you my darling!" and "I must obey my father's wishes." and goes and stands behind daddy's chair.

I will grant that this is an older characterization (or "non-" as it were). They seem to have done more with her the last 2 or 3 years than they have in the previous 20.

[Gwylden]

Jack Nicholson was always my favorite. I guess I could see Depp playing Joker after seeing him in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. All I know is they better pick someone good or they will here about it.

[Ontir]

I heard something last week, about a presentation for the next Batman movie having been made, and that the suits were very enthusiastic, but that it didnt' involve any villain previously used in one of the prior films.

[CaptainAwesome]

I could see Depp as Joke. Weiz as Talia? I dont think so.

[StoneGold]

I could see her. Not too much different than what she was in the Mummy. At least when partially possessed.

[Ravenheart]

I think Depp could pull off a pretty good Joker.

[nervmeister]

I don't think Talia should be in the same movie as the Joker.