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ultramandingo
01-11-2006, 07:50 PM
hey cool! it his creepy origin issue! then he shoots some one! , c'mon! freekin "new avengers" has 13 pages of post , wile the best book out there ....nada . did i mention im typing while drunk? thats gotta bee worthsomething!

A.Warlock
01-11-2006, 08:45 PM
I love the art, but I can't figure out why I'm still with this book. Each issue takes longer and longer for Ellis to recap what has happened, and nothing new and interesting happens. I'll see where the arc finishes, and if it's not strong enough for me, I'll switch to Fell for a good Warren Ellis fix.

jerrymcl89
01-11-2006, 10:03 PM
I'm enjoying this a lot - just wish it came out more often. I'm hoping the next issue is the end of the "They Stole Hitler's Porn!" arc, since it would be good to get some answers, but I like the character of Jones, and find the world he lives in pretty intriguing.

pennywisdom
01-13-2006, 02:50 AM
I will probably stay on DJ for as long as Ellis is writing it.

Regarding comparisons to Fell, I think DJ is better if you're looking for something with an inherently strange lead character and an equally bizarre world for said character to inhabit. The main character in Fell isn't particularly out there (that I've seen yet), but the strength of the book is its pacing. Done-in-one stories are a rarity in the world of comics these days.

The reason they're so strange isn't necessarily industry profit (although that probably plays a big part in it), it might also have to do with the fact that readers want a lot of character development, backstory and focus on continuity. So, the idea of doing completely different stories each issue kind of harkens back to the pulp fiction days.... it would take someone who reads short fiction to appreciate Fell.

MarkSullivan
01-17-2006, 01:21 PM
I'm enjoying this a lot - just wish it came out more often. I'm hoping the next issue is the end of the "They Stole Hitler's Porn!" arc, since it would be good to get some answers, but I like the character of Jones, and find the world he lives in pretty intriguing.
I agree. I am increasingly having a problem with the pacing, though. The recap section in this issue probably was needed, but only because the pace is too slow, expecially for a bi-monthly book. Choosing a slow-paced multipart arc to begin a new series just seems crazy to me, especially in today's market. Surely Ellis knows better?

CoreyB
01-17-2006, 08:06 PM
So Desolation Jones isn't a mini-series? For some reason I thought it was.

(I love Fell!)

noh-varr
01-17-2006, 08:17 PM
Ellis wrote the initial 6 part arc thinking it would come out monthly and not specificaly for the great artist he ended up with. Not to mention this was all written a few years ago. I'm enjoying the series thus far, it's a detective story, this issue is leading to all the pieces fitting together in the conclusion of this storyline. Plus really this arc seems more of an intro to the supporting cast, main character, and setting then anything else.

Not to mention the simply gorgeous artwork.

Screwtape
01-17-2006, 10:40 PM
No, Ellis definitely wrote it for JH Williams. The script pages he quotes on his website name Williams personally.

This is totally my favorite book coming out right now, though. I'm amazed at the artwork, of course, but the narrative is really good and reasonably paced (for an Ellis book anyway). I also like all the little jabs at "The Big Sleep," which are really fun. And the supporting characters are freakin' fascinating.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
01-18-2006, 01:30 AM
The reason they're so strange isn't necessarily industry profit (although that probably plays a big part in it), it might also have to do with the fact that readers want a lot of character development, backstory and focus on continuity.

You know there used to be writers who could do all of that without multi-part epics.

Jack Destruct
01-18-2006, 03:21 AM
No, Ellis definitely wrote it for JH Williams. The script pages he quotes on his website name Williams personally.

Well, you're both right. He wrote the first couple of scripts before he knew who was going to be drawing it. I'm almost certain it was the third issue that he knew it would be JHW (and you can tell).

Love DJ, have from the start. It's well written, but I don't think I'd be staying on board if it wasn't for the art.

Screwtape
01-18-2006, 10:04 PM
Aha, that makes more sense.

Yup, I totally agree with you about the reasons to buy the book. A new Warren Ellis series I can take or leave (because who knows when I'll see the next issue?) but WE+JH3 was too good to pass up.

ultramandingo
01-18-2006, 10:29 PM
I agree. I am increasingly having a problem with the pacing, though. The recap section in this issue probably was needed, but only because the pace is too slow, expecially for a bi-monthly book. Choosing a slow-paced multipart arc to begin a new series just seems crazy to me, especially in today's market. Surely Ellis knows better?

hey ,any o you short attention span guys know where i can get the
readers digest version of watchmen , cause 12 issues..... no way!!! i got battle star galactica fan fics to write.....

Jack Destruct
01-19-2006, 04:25 AM
hey ,any o you short attention span guys know where i can get the
readers digest version of watchmen , cause 12 issues..... no way!!! i got battle star galactica fan fics to write.....

I can understand what he's saying though. It's not the fact that it's slow-paced, it's the fact that Ellis spends a lot of pages just recapping what's happened so far.

That's alright at the moment when there's a two-month gap between issues, 'cause you kinda need the reminder, but at the same time you kinda feel like you're being talked down to:
"Can't remember what happened two months ago?! Fine then f***tards, here it is, I'll spell it out for you..."

And on an unrelated sidenote, I read the whole of Watchmen in one day. Kinda felt really odd after that, was dumbstruck for at least 10 minutes after I finished it, just processing everything.

ultramandingo
01-30-2006, 07:41 AM
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WARREN ELLIS

Eleven days left on my own. Finally
got some decent writing done last
night, so hopefully my brain's back
in gear. Planning out the next
DESOLATION JONES arc: now I know
in advance that it's being serialised
bi-monthly (the first few issues
were written before I had an artist,
on the assumption that it'd be a
monthly, and changing the approach
halfway in would've made a weird-
looking book), I want to alter the way
I hit it a bit.

I personally feel JONES is about the
journey more than the end -- my
favourite bits are the little windows
on unusual worlds, rather than the
plot pivots -- so, like the first one,
I'm lifting the very rough, bony
plot structure out of Chandler.
Because these are LA detective
stories, and Chandler's always the
elephant in the room with that sort
of thing. You may as well point at
it and move on. What I take from
Chandler is six lines, more or less --
the most basic spine of the plot,
the six beats that get you from A
to Z. That and his revelatory
stance that detective fiction is
social fiction. And then I go off on my
own after the story I'm *actually*
telling. The first JONES book is
about the buying and selling of
people, really. The second one is
shaping up to be about escape.

I'm thinking about asking people
to come up with DESOLATION JONES
theme musics that I can run on
warrenellis.com as mp3s.

ultramandingo
03-02-2006, 07:41 AM
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WARREN ELLIS

Alan Moore and I had a fundamental
disagreement once. He felt that
HP Lovecraft was the essential
Western visionary of the 20th
Century. I think it was Philip K Dick.
I suspect some people discount Dick
in the Mad Bastards League because
the likes of Lovecraft and Blake
made their art on the natural,
while Dick was a notorious drug
user. However, I think it's worth
noting that in his later years a
doctor told Dick that he had an
unusually efficient liver that was
processing out the amphetamines
before they really got to work on
him. Said Dick, who in many ways
was not the smartest of guys, "Oh,
that explains why I like to take
speed before I go to bed."

I'm thinking a lot about Dick right
now because, as confirmed a couple
of days ago, he was living in the
greater Los Angeles area (I can
extend the ring around the city
enough to include it) when he had
his major sequence of visions and
visitations that led him to the
VALIS-related novels and his
Exegesis. Visions of a vast active
living intelligence system over LA?
Information-rich pink lasers from
space? That is certainly DESOLATION
JONES territory, don't you think?


---
Sent via mobile device
probably in the pub

MarkSullivan
03-02-2006, 11:49 AM
Sounds like Ellis has plenty of cool ideas for the series going forward. It's reassuring to know that the slightly-off pacing is the result of an unplanned publication schedule, too. I didn't think Ellis would make such a misstep intentionally.

ultramandingo
04-12-2006, 08:58 PM
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WARREN ELLIS

I've set up a commentary thread on The Engine for
DESOLATION JONES #6, the conclusive part of
MADE IN ENGLAND. As I said yesterday, it's
possible that some of you may want to talk about
it.

The Eisner-award-nominated storyline that got
its nomination without actually being finished at
the time. That still makes me laugh.

http://www.the-engine.net

-- W

Volk1
04-12-2006, 10:07 PM
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WARREN ELLIS

I've set up a commentary thread on The Engine for
DESOLATION JONES #6, the conclusive part of
MADE IN ENGLAND. As I said yesterday, it's
possible that some of you may want to talk about
it.

The Eisner-award-nominated storyline that got
its nomination without actually being finished at
the time. That still makes me laugh.

http://www.the-engine.net

-- W

Awesome conlusion to the arc. DJ is one soulless, cold, mo'fo!
Ellis writes another gem.

Jack Destruct
04-15-2006, 10:20 PM
Just read #6 yesterday.

Too early for me to really say what I thought of it, I'm gonna go back and read all six issues and then decide. Personally I thought all the female characters started to look the same (or they all started to look like different characters - and I'm not talking about just the sisters either) which made it all a little confusing. I'm sure I'll be fine with another read-through though.

I'm tempted to pop over to the Engine and see what everyone else is saying about it, but I know there's going to be about 8,000 posts... Damn the Internet Jesus and his popularity.

EDIT: Just read all six in a row, and it definately worked a lot better and made perfect sense. Should go down well in Trade format for any new readers.

ultramandingo
04-17-2006, 05:36 PM
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WARREN


Yes, JH Williams just said at Newsarama that
he's going to be drawing BATMAN fulltime.

Wildstorm and I were not ready for a public
comment. And, for God's sake, I'm going on holiday
in the morning. So this is going to have to wait until
next week and everybody is just going to have to cope.

Okay? Okay.

.......dog doo

The Crime Dentist
04-18-2006, 12:59 AM
On the one hand, this series is tremendously written and original. But after reading #6, well, I'm not sure I want to read about this character and his grimy world any further. I found the conclusion of this story a bit hard to take.

Jack Destruct
04-20-2006, 05:43 PM
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WARREN


Yes, JH Williams just said at Newsarama that
he's going to be drawing BATMAN fulltime.

Wildstorm and I were not ready for a public
comment. And, for God's sake, I'm going on holiday
in the morning. So this is going to have to wait until
next week and everybody is just going to have to cope.

Okay? Okay.

.......dog doo

I hope Internet Jesus tells us what the deal is soon. I mean, DJ won't be DJ without JHW.

Stupid Batman.

ultramandingo
05-04-2006, 05:04 PM
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WARREN ELLIS

* A lot of people have been asking
me what's going on with DESOLATION
JONES, understandably. Right now,
we do have a new artist, but we're
waiting until a couple other things
are lined up before we do the
announcements and explanations.
The artist is one I've admired for
years. And I spoke to Jose Villarubia
at the weekend, and I think he might
stay on as colour artist.

Jack Destruct
05-04-2006, 06:20 PM
Dammit! I was planning on posting that bad signal and beating you to it ultramandingo... Next time gadget, next tiiiimmmmeeeee!

Anyway, no idea who WE has in mind, but the only artist I can think of off the top of my head that could draw DJ somewhere along the lines of JHW would be Tony Harris (Starman and Ex Machina).

And no, I'm not saying that Tony Harris is as good as JHW or even that they're styles are that similar, but I think there are some similarities in how they draw people and Tony Harris is probably good enough that I wouldn't drop the book straight away.

But still... no offense to Warren, but JHW was the best thing about Desolation Jones.

ultramandingo
05-04-2006, 06:46 PM
bwahaa bwahhaaa. but seriously , tony harris would kick butt ........but whos gunna do ex-machina. i saythat casiday guy blows off the muties and goes back where he belongs.

Jack Destruct
05-06-2006, 10:16 PM
Actually, another artist who could be good on DJ: Jae Lee.

Warren's already said that Jose Villarubia will be staying on board for colours, and Jae Lee and Jose worked together on Fantastic Four 1234, and that is some incredible artwork in that run.

Lee's style is also close enough that it would be too jarring I think.

I really hope that whoever the new artist is, they can do it on a monthly schedule...

MarkSullivan
05-07-2006, 02:28 PM
I really hope that whoever the new artist is, they can do it on a monthly schedule...
Oh, yes. The bimonthly schedule was the only thing I've disliked about the book. If a new artist means a monthly schedule, that would be a positive change to come out of it.

ultramandingo
05-08-2006, 07:52 AM
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WARREN ELLIS

* Lost track of last week due to
the lurgy, but we'll get the JONES
stuff done this week, new artist and
all that. Hopefully a date for the
MADE IN ENGLAND TPB, too. I think
the new story will be called MAD
DOGS AND ENGLISHMEN, even
though it seems a bit obvious.

A.Warlock
05-08-2006, 11:02 AM
J.H. Williams was definitely the selling point of this series for me. Maybe I'll follow him to Batman and start collecting Fell for some really good Ellis writing.

CoreyB
05-08-2006, 12:10 PM
Williams' work was an amazing component but I'll keep reading. The character is tragically interesting and entertaining enough to keep going for me.

At the same time, I'll be following Williams to his Detective Comics run, and reading Fell. So I'm easy.

ultramandingo
05-11-2006, 07:54 AM
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WARREN ELLIS


* The new JONES artist will
apparently be announced at the
Bristol con this weekend (which, no,
I'm not attending).


* So I'm getting back into stride on
JONES, and have found that I can
reclaim much of the second arc. I
was writing it for Williams, you see,
and really writing directly to that
combination of old-school line and
mad visionary expansiveness he
was using. I figured I'd end up
teamed with an artist who was very
different from Williams (and I have),
and so would have to toss the story.
But the guy who stepped up has his
own kind of surrealism, so I think I
can save a lot. Which means I'm
thinking about Philip K Dick again.
Much of the story is set in and
around Fullerton, a LA suburb just
inside the red line of the "cage"
that features in the series, where
Dick lived and worked in his latter
years.

CoreyB
05-11-2006, 08:31 AM
Awesome. Thanks for passing this on.

Living in LA, it's kind of cool to read a series set here and not New York City for a change. Between this and Runaways, it almost feels like Los Angeles matters.

Almost.

Lee in Limbo
05-22-2006, 05:04 PM
I find myself wondering mightily whom the new artist will be. The teaming of JH and WE was so powerful, I truly wonder if they can match it in any way, shape or form.

ultramandingo
06-05-2006, 01:26 PM
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ME

If anyone's interested, Rich Johnston has the identity
of the new DESOLATION JONES artist.

I still don't have clearance to say anything. But I
can show you the link.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2481

-- W


"DESOLATION CAJONES

The new artist on Warren Ellis' "Desolation Jones," to replace the Dini-"Detective"-bound JH Williams, is Danijel Zezelj.

That's quite an artistic departure. But it's a rather thrilling one."


" congo bill "............

Jack Destruct
06-05-2006, 05:39 PM
What else has he worked on?

Is this a good thing?

And I think that between Rich Johnston and Warren Ellis they've killed Zezelj's site, 'cause I can't clicky the link.

ultramandingo
06-05-2006, 05:56 PM
monkeys , the devil and xtra fancy car seat leather (congo bill , el diablo , the corinthian) and a bunch of euro comics

Apathy Boy
06-06-2006, 12:37 AM
Zezelj also drew the first six issues of Chuck Austen's SUPERMAN: METROPOLIS (http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=84327374157&snumber=1) mini-series, which was a damn good comic despite what everyone thinks of the writer.

Zezelj is no JH Williams III. Not even close. But who is? Zezelj is a solid enough artist who's style will fit in well with the book. I think he might not be a very fast artist, though.

Jack Destruct
06-06-2006, 01:48 AM
I think he might not be a very fast artist, though.

Damn, I was seriously hoping that we'd at least get a monthly schedule out of the changeover.

Jack Destruct
06-19-2006, 04:47 PM
Newsarama Desolation Jones Interview with Warren Ellis (http://www.newsarama.com/Wildstorm2/Desolation/Ellis_jones.html)

Clicky.

EDIT: Woah, that's an awesome interview. I love hearing Warren talking about comics art and page breakdowns and the like. I'm sure a lot of aspiring comic writers could learn a lot from him.

Also at the end they say: "Come back tomorrow to Newsarama for an interview with the artist of the first story-arc, J.H. Williams III, about his time on the series"

But I've found in the past that when Newsarama say that it's almost impossible to find the follow-up story. If somebody could post the link once it's up I would be greatly appreciative.

CaptainAwesome
10-29-2006, 04:42 PM
This seems to be the all things DJ thread, so I guess I'll post what I have to say here. I got the first trade on Saturday and I have to say that, drunk or not, ultramandingo was absolutley 100% correct in saying this is the best series out there today. Way better than New Avengers, but thats kind of an arbitrary comparison, isnt it? Anyway, I love love love the book and I cannot wait until the second trade. I know I could just pick up the regular book, but I'm too badass for that.

ultramandingo
10-29-2006, 06:44 PM
drunk or not, ultramandingo was absolutley 100% correct .
im going to put that on my tomb stone , right under AVENGE ME!!!

ultramandingo
11-11-2006, 10:55 AM
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WARREN ELLIS



* We'd talked about moving
DESOLATION JONES to monthly,
and you may have noticed that
didn't happen. It might in the future,
but, right now, I've decided I like
doing one JONES a year. The TPB
thereby being an annual thing.
That appeals to me.


---
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sent from pub, street or road

ultramandingo
12-06-2006, 06:35 PM
jeez , ellis wasnt kiding about the philip k dick thing . the first arc had hilter , this one pk dick o rama . plus a depresing jones as a kid (!!!!) flashback . and tips on where to put your gun , if you want to look cool....

sgt pepper
12-16-2006, 12:58 PM
I've seen enough movies to know that PK Dick had some great dystopian ideas about the future, but I tried to read one of his books once and couldn't get through it because the writing was so bad. Too bad that pink Jesus lazer didn't magically teach him how to write.

I love the LA Ellis is creating in thi series.

Jack Destruct
12-31-2006, 12:56 AM
I've seen enough movies to know that PK Dick had some great dystopian ideas about the future, but I tried to read one of his books once and couldn't get through it because the writing was so bad. Too bad that pink Jesus lazer didn't magically teach him how to write.

I love the LA Ellis is creating in thi series.

Well, a lot of his books are just sci-fi trash that he wrote to make ends meet (he did write an awful lot of books after all). But don't discount him as a writer due to one bad-apple; all his books are far superior to the movies that were based off them.

Read:
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
A Scanner Darkly
VALIS

They're the best of his that I've read. You could also grab a short-story collection or two, there are some gems in there...

Anyway, I ordered DJ #8 yesterday (been away for three weeks, so I don't know when it came out) so I should have it this week sometime...

shanejayell
12-31-2006, 07:38 PM
Liking Jones so far, must get #8 soon. Still want to know more about Desolation Test and gov;t black projects.

ultramandingo
02-24-2007, 09:44 AM
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WARREN ELLIS


DESOLATION JONES is on a short
pause: after talking with Scott
Dunbier, we've decided to try and
push it monthly after all, so there's
going to be a bit of a gap, and then
a monthly march to the arc's
finishing line.

---
Sent via mobile device
sent from pub, street or road

tigermagee
03-18-2007, 09:35 AM
Anyone know when this is going to start again?

ultramandingo
03-19-2007, 07:41 AM
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WARREN ELLIS

Tonight I'm assembling JONES
scripts from pieces -- we took a
short hiatus so we can start bringing
the book in monthly.

Nurse!


---
Sent via mobile device
sent from pub, street or road

Jack Destruct
03-19-2007, 05:28 PM
Monthly Jones is too good to be true...

stealthwise
04-26-2007, 10:23 PM
I just read the first tpb, and man oh man, was it great.

Williams's art is dynamic, and the story and dialogue are crackling sharp; not sure what everyone was complaining about with the pacing, although having month-long gaps would probably kill me as well.

Jack Destruct
04-29-2007, 10:19 PM
Williams's art is dynamic, and the story and dialogue are crackling sharp; not sure what everyone was complaining about with the pacing, although having month-long gaps would probably kill me as well.

Bi-monthly...

So yeah, the bitching was probably justified at the time, though I can't recall if I was doing any complaining.

CaptainAwesome
06-29-2007, 11:34 PM
Is this book still on "hiatus" or has it been canned? I dont see any solicits for the next several months on the WS web site.

anthony devlin
06-30-2007, 04:30 AM
Is this book still on "hiatus" or has it been canned? I dont see any solicits for the next several months on the WS web site.

Scott Dunbier recently confirm it was still on hiatus (i cant for the life of me remember where i read this, but it was within the last fortnight).

ablindmouse
06-30-2007, 09:37 PM
Philip K Dick+Ellis=brilliant.

Huge PKD fan and can't wait to see what Ellis does with his ideas/life/stories and so forth.

z0mbie_aut0pil0t
07-01-2007, 05:55 PM
Did DJ switch artists between arcs? If so, I don't like the new guy as much as the former.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
07-01-2007, 05:59 PM
Did DJ switch artists between arcs? If so, I don't like the new guy as much as the former.

Not to sound rude, but do you need the internet to answer that one?
Isn't there a credit given in the book?
Wasn't this talked about earlier in the thread?

But yes, it did switch. Personally, I'm a big fan of both artists, and have been following them both for quite a few years (same with Ellis, so I'm quite happy with the books creators thus far.
If I get Micheal Zulli or Frank Teran on the book, I'll know that Ellis has been reading my mind.

z0mbie_aut0pil0t
07-01-2007, 09:26 PM
Wow. Ahahahaha.

Thanks.

ultramandingo
09-09-2007, 12:09 PM
[BAD SIGNAL] DESOLATION JONES Clarification
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WARREN ELLIS

Apparently, it's been reported on Newsarama that Dan Didio, when asked
a question about DESOLATION JONES -- which I've previously said is on
a hiatus -- said that he believed the series wouldn't continue due to
my
being exclusive to Marvel. This is, of course, what happens when you
put
on the spot a guy who doesn't run the Wildstorm operation day-to-day
or
have any reason to know anything about my Marvel deal. Dan Didio has
many powers, several of which are far too disgusting to mention in
public,
but telepathy is not yet one of them.

DESOLATION JONES has been put on pause for several reasons, including
my wish to get enough pages in the bank to take the series monthly
from
the forthcoming #9. My Marvel deal does not preclude me from
continuing
JONES.

The other reason I know JONES is being continued, is that DC
themselves
are currently involved in the brokerage of a very interesting media
deal that
I cannot yet discuss. Which is something else that poor old Dan would
have no reason to know.

So when you next see Dan Didio, sitting sadly in the lobby of a
convention
hotel ruminating on why no-one loves him and how no-one understands
that all the pretty girls have to die... give him a hug. Tell him
it's
going to
be all right. Do it for me.

-- Warren Ellis

Lobsterdom
09-09-2007, 06:20 PM
Just when I was skipping with joy with
Mr. Ellis writing Astonishing X-Men...
someone reminds me of this.
O U C H.:(

Jack Zodiac
09-09-2007, 07:13 PM
Monthly Jones? Media deal? I like what I'm hearin'!

Lobsterdom
09-10-2007, 08:53 PM
Yeah terrific, but when will it actually restart?
I just can't understand why they leave continuing plotlines dangling in mid-air and start other new projects. Its senseless. I mean, they're professionals, not amatuar doujinshi creators.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
09-10-2007, 10:43 PM
Yeah terrific, but when will it actually restart?
I just can't understand why they leave continuing plotlines dangling in mid-air and start other new projects. Its senseless. I mean, they're professionals, not amatuar doujinshi creators.

Well, being professionals, a well paying gig means a bit more to them than a less well paying one.
Also, I'd say Jones is aimed at the bookstore market as well, so they'd rather get it right than rush and have mistakes to look at till the end of time.

Lobsterdom
09-10-2007, 11:32 PM
Well, being professionals, a well paying gig means a bit more to them than a less well paying one.
Also, I'd say Jones is aimed at the bookstore market as well, so they'd rather get it right than rush and have mistakes to look at till the end of time.

Isn't this hiatus the great big smudge on the series?
They want to respect their art and yet, when an opportunity is afforded,
they casually jump off to grab more bread.
Such dilemma...

MartinRedmond
09-11-2007, 08:22 AM
Can Ellis write anything else than Transmetropolitan/Authority 2 - 3 - 4 etc?

Erwin Heinek
09-11-2007, 12:00 PM
Can Ellis write anything else than Transmetropolitan/Authority 2 - 3 - 4 etc?

Since Desolation Jones is neither Transmetropolitan/Authority-ish I'd say the answer is yes. And neither were Fell, Black Gas, Wolfskin, Cross, Red, etc.

Ryan Day
09-11-2007, 12:29 PM
Isn't this hiatus the great big smudge on the series?
They want to respect their art and yet, when an opportunity is afforded,
they casually jump off to grab more bread.
Such dilemma...

The whole reason for the delay is so they can bring the series back on a monthly basis.

Granted, it would seem like the time for that would be between story arcs, and not in the middle of one, but it's a welcome idea anyway.

Stony
09-11-2007, 04:05 PM
Whatever happened to Warry's "Cross" anyway? Was that just a one storyline deal?

ultramandingo
09-11-2007, 04:50 PM
.......warry?

"Regarding Jack Cross, Ellis had this to say, beginning by musing, "how can I say this politely?" and going on to state that "I'm not doing any more issues of Jack Cross with DC." When the curious fan asked why that was, Ellis dispensed with politeness, answering, "cause they fucked it up, that's why."

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2007/07/29/warren-ellis-addresses-his-children-at-comic-con/

FunkyGreenJerusalem
09-11-2007, 06:04 PM
Isn't this hiatus the great big smudge on the series?
They want to respect their art and yet, when an opportunity is afforded,
they casually jump off to grab more bread.
Such dilemma...

Yes, but as I said, Desolation Jones is obviously written to be collected, with the series as a loss leader.
And those of us who buy books collected really don't care if there was a gap between issues.
Obviously this is bad news for books that are solicited as monthly/bi-monthly, and on comics that have always been monthly I consider it very poor form, however with a book that has set arcs and great art, that reads better collected, I can't see why you would blame them for following the european model.

Lobsterdom
09-11-2007, 11:21 PM
Yes, but as I said, Desolation Jones is obviously written to be collected, with the series as a loss leader.
And those of us who buy books collected really don't care if there was a gap between issues.
Obviously this is bad news for books that are solicited as monthly/bi-monthly, and on comics that have always been monthly I consider it very poor form, however with a book that has set arcs and great art, that reads better collected, I can't see why you would blame them for following the european model.

So this happens quite frequently?
Guh...why the 'going monthly' tease then?

Incidentally, there was this particular comic book series published in Japan, several years ago. This comedy series had an intriguing concept/group of characters, and had innovative cracktacular gags distributed on...this isn't hyperbole...every single page. It was highly received, and even had a vast following.
But...while having the phrase 'to be continued' plastered on the last page of the current final book, a continuation has never been made. Seven years have passed, and except for a few resolute fans, the comic has been completely forgotten. The author is currently writing another comic book series which has even been turned into an animation series. Encouraging huh?
Sorry if I've annoyed you with my fan-girlish ranting. I just don't want one of my favourite comics to follow the same fate 's all...

Stony
09-12-2007, 08:12 PM
Yep. Warry.

I feel I have divested enough of the contents of my wallet over the years to his work to feel some claim to him on a pet-name basis.

Just like Morry.

And Moorey.

And the Ostrich.