Some stuff that really should have been in PMs

[Deathstroke]

And once again, I have no idea what's being talked about. But why should today be any different.

[Slam_Bradley]

You know Morts, you could have responded to me like that. Then it would have been true and accurate.

[Kamen Rider Might]

That's very noble, Typo Lad. Bravo. :)

[BlairH]

And once again, I have no idea what's being talked about. But why should today be any different.
It was in the "regarding bannings" thread. Thread turned quite...well...

Anyways, welcome back Morts. We've all said things that we've regretted.

[Michael P]

So, Morts, how was dying on Friday and being resurrected on Sunday?

[Typo Lad]

So, Morts, how was dying on Friday and being resurrected on Sunday?

You know, it was actually kind of restful. I'd recommend it to all my friends.

[Slappy san]

It was in the "regarding bannings" thread. Thread turned quite...well...

Anyways, welcome back Morts. We've all said things that we've regretted.

What was said? There are 73 pages in that thread. I gave trying to find it.

[Typo Lad]

What was said? There are 73 pages in that thread. I gave trying to find it.

It's really not important now, is it? Suffice it to say that it was insulting to a poster who I consider a friend. It was a deliberate insult to boot. Not aimed at him in specific, but to give me a "change" to be banned. However, regardless of motive, it was still an insult.

[Donald M.]

What was said? There are 73 pages in that thread. I gave trying to find it.
You do know you can do a search on all of his posts through his profile? He's been gone for two days so you don't have to go back very far to find the offending post.

[Slappy san]

You do know you can do a search on all of his posts through his profile? He's been gone for two days so you don't have to go back very far to find the offending post.

I guess it's too much to ask for more info?

BTW Typo aka Morts got him self banned for that? Jeez....whore for attention much?

[SteelTownr]

I guess it's too much to ask for more info?


I don't think that is the case here. I just think that out of respect for Morts and West, people aren't repeating what happened.

Mark B.

[bert]

Thanks for proving me correct, when I said to someone in the "banning" thread that if you hadn't been trying to prove a point, you would most likely simply apologize.

You're a class act (most of the time) Morts, and I hope West doesn't hold a grudge.

[nubly]

It's really not important now, is it? Suffice it to say that it was insulting to a poster who I consider a friend.
s'ok i forgive you morty :X

[Davideaux]

It's good of you to apologize but it was a low thing to say to someone who obviously respects you very much.

[Dan Apodaca]

It's good of you to apologize but it was a low thing to say to someone who obviously respects you very much.

I kinda figured he knew that, since he apologized.

[Typo Lad]

s'ok i forgive you morty :X

Please never call me that. Thank you.

[Paradox]

How about Mortimer? :D

Class move, as always, Morts.

Welcome back. Watch out for the stigmata. ;)

[StoneGold]

Mortician?

[Fabian]

I thought the joke was funny.

[zilch]

And once again, I have no idea what's being talked about. But why should today be any different.

Welcome to my world.

[Puma]

welcome back Morts and this thread is a classy move.

[Spackling Compound]

welcome back Morts and this thread is a classy move.
Morts aka Typo never was "away". No ban. No nothing. And this thread is sort of the cheapest way to apologize.

Sorry, Typo. Bad form.

[Puma]

Morts aka Typo never was "away". No ban. No nothing. And this thread is sort of the cheapest way to apologize.

Sorry, Typo. Bad form.

really? and Greg's statement to the contrary on the thread means nothing?

[Typo Lad]

Morts aka Typo never was "away". No ban. No nothing.

I beg to differ sir, I was banned for 48 hours.

And this thread is sort of the cheapest way to apologize.

That's your opinion. I personally believe that if you malign someone publically, the apology must be public.

Sorry, Typo. Bad form.

But that's the only dive I know!

[Spackling Compound]

That's your opinion. I personally believe that if you malign someone publically, the apology must be public.


On a forum? Surrounded by your friends? Surrounded by the anonymity of personal opinion and cynical humor?
I'm in disagreement. PM the apology is my way. And if you apologize, bury it in the thread rather than making a new thread for it.
The apology should give dignity to the offended, not to make the offender feel better.
Have you pm'd the offended? Might be something to think about.

[Solaris]

On a forum? Surrounded by your friends? Surrounded by the anonymity of personal opinion and cynical humor?
I'm in disagreement. PM the apology is my way. And if you apologize, bury it in the thread rather than making a new thread for it.
The apology should give dignity to the offended, not to make the offender feel better.
Have you pm'd the offended? Might be something to think about.

Very likely Morts *has* PM'd West on this.... but either way, a public apology is considered by most people to be a "straight up" way to act... if the insult offered was public. Standing up in public and saying "I acted like an ass, and I'm sorry" is a way of owning up to bad behavior, and making whatever reparation you can for what you said. I simply don't understand why you see this as a bad thing---especially when people are often unwilling to take on such a responsibility for their actions publically. If the apology and remorse are sincere, as they were with Morts, then where's the beef?

[Tom]

I believe the opposite. Rather vehemently, actually. If you malign someone publically then the only honorable thing to do is to apologize publically. Private apologies for public infractions are the pussy way out.

[Typo Lad]

On a forum?

On the forum where the incident occured, yes.

Surrounded by your friends?

Witnessed by our mutual friends who witnessed my assholery, yes.

Surrounded by the anonymity of personal opinion

I'm going to be perfectly frank here: I have no idea what the goog you mean by this. It sounds like some kind of psuedo-intellectual claptrap. I don't have time for such things.

and cynical humor?

If you, or anyone, can point out where I use "cynical humor" in my apology, I'd be quite surprised. Elsewhere, sure. But just because I'm sorry I was an ass doesn't mean I have to suddenly alter my entire persona.

I'm in disagreement.

As is your right. Or in this case, your "wrong".

PM the apology is my way. And if you apologize, bury it in the thread rather than making a new thread for it.

So what you're saying is "Hush it up, don't let anyone know you feel bad about you did, just make sure the wronged party is cool with you and move on"?

Do you also favor sexual harassment suits being settled out of court?

The apology should give dignity to the offended, not to make the offender feel better.

And by apologizing "under the table" in a hidden fashion, particularly for a public incident, is instulting and rude to the offended.

Have you pm'd the offended? Might be something to think about.

By your own logic, what I have and have not done in regards to contacting the offended is none of your business.

[DarkBlade]

Well, as you said, that's your way. This is Morts. To my awareness, he's always felt that apologies should be made on the same public level as the offense. If it was a private thing that occured in someone's home, the apology wouldn't be printed in the New York Times. If he'd lambasted someone in class, he'd then make the apology before the same folks. Accountability.

(I know Morts isn't in school. Examples.)

[Spackling Compound]

I believe the opposite. Rather vehemently, actually. If you malign someone publically then the only honorable thing to do is to apologize publically. Private apologies for public infractions are the pussy way out.
And easier. It's like proposing to a girl at a baseball stadium or asking your wife to forgive you in front of the family at Thanksgiving.

Of course, if one apologizes without the need for "reconciliation", public is fine.

Pm's are more honest in that it facilitates private and unfettered conversation between the involved parties.

Typo's comment to west did not involve any of us. It wasn't a public infraction but a personal insult.

[Tom]

Easier? The easy thing to do would be to PM him. To stand up in front of everyone and offer your apology doesn't strike me as easy at all.

[DarkBlade]

And easier. It's like proposing to a girl at a baseball stadium or asking your wife to forgive you in front of the family at Thanksgiving.

Of course, if one apologizes without the need for "reconciliation", public is fine.

Pm's are more honest in that it facilitates private and unfettered conversation between the involved parties.

Typo's comment to west did not involve any of us. It wasn't a public infraction but a personal insult.
Actually, personal insults in public ARE public infractions. This is why they have laws about slander and libel.

[Puma]

but it was a public infraction, those of us on the thread in question read the insult; I prefer to see a public apology in this case.

[Typo Lad]

The story of my posting life: I spend forever carefully wording a post only to click send and see that Tom and/or Solaris have already said the same thing and far, far better.

That said, know what Spack? I'm waiting for an acknowledgement that you were wrong about my "not being banned". Frankly, you were calling me a liar and I don't cotton to that.

[Puma]

don't cotton to?

are you sure you're in NY?

[Dreadstar]

It wasn't a public infraction but a personal insult.


Actually, it was both.

[Dreadstar]

don't cotton to?

are you sure you're in NY?

I blame the two weeks of exposure to my avatar, personally.

[Spackling Compound]

The story of my posting life: I spend forever carefully wording a post only to click send and see that Tom and/or Solaris have already said the same thing and far, far better.

That said, know what Spack? I'm waiting for an acknowledgement that you were wrong about my "not being banned". Frankly, you were calling me a liar and I don't cotton to that.
I was wrong about you being banned. And maybe you were wronged in being banned.

[Typo Lad]

I was wrong about you being banned.

Thank you for acknowledging that.

And maybe you were wronged in being banned.

I'm sorry, what part of the concept of an apology do you not quite "get"? Of course I was wrong in what I said. That's why I'm apologizing. I was wrong in that I insulted a friend and I was doubly wrong that I did it just to proce a point, which demeans him as a human being.

What are you waiting for? Me to bow and kiss your feet and say "OH YES YOU ARE RIGHT FOR TELLING ME I DID SOMETHING BAD! IT IS TOO BAD I DID NOT START A THREAD TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE BAD THING I DID AND THAT I DO NOT FEEL TERRIBLE ABOUT THIS THING I DID AT ALL."

[Typo Lad]

don't cotton to?

are you sure you're in NY?

Suzannah just came back from West Memphis, Arkansas. I'm absorbing her "local color" by osmosis it seems.

That and yeah, years of constinious exposure to the Dread-Man.

[Guapo Méndez]

Never thought I'd see the day when someone would make bones about someone else's apology to someone else.

It's a matter of principles, Spack. If you offend publicly, you must apologize publicly. Typo is simply setting things right by the thread and by the words he said.

Sorry, Spack. You've lost a lot of respect on my book.

[Typo Lad]

Easier? The easy thing to do would be to PM him. To stand up in front of everyone and offer your apology doesn't strike me as easy at all.

Bingo. Especially because in the thread in question many long time friends mentioned how I was out of line. Let's not evne talk about the flurry of PMs I got.

What happens in the public eye stays in the public eye.

[Solaris]

And easier. It's like proposing to a girl at a baseball stadium or asking your wife to forgive you in front of the family at Thanksgiving.

Of course, if one apologizes without the need for "reconciliation", public is fine.

Pm's are more honest in that it facilitates private and unfettered conversation between the involved parties.

Typo's comment to west did not involve any of us. It wasn't a public infraction but a personal insult.

If he said it in public, and it was read by many, then it's a public infraction, and deserves a public apology. A private apology along with it is also nice, but the public one is definitely necessary... otherwise you leave the impression that you are willing to apologize in private, but don't have the balls to stand up and take your licks in public---in other words, that the apology isn't strongly meant, because you aren't willing to pay the public cost of admitting in front of *everyone who saw it* that you were acting like a dick. Making that kind of public apology comes at a personal cost, and shows the insulted party that you are willing to PAY that cost in order to try to make things right between you.

As I understand it, in the Jewish Tradition there's a Holy Day (is it Rosh Hashanah (sp?), Morts?) that involves asking forgiveness of everyone you've wronged throughout the year. While Morts observes that day, he doesn't wait for it to roll around to take responsibility and pay his dues when he's wronged someone. He lives it every day.

How you can find this as a personal insult to West, and/or a grandstand play by Morts, is beyond me. The apology was sincere, and was Morts taking responsibility for his wrong actions, in public where it occured... and I for one respect him for doing so at the personal cost this incurs.

[Spackling Compound]

Sorry, Spack. You've lost a lot of respect on my book.
It happens.

[Spackling Compound]

Thank you for acknowledging that.



I'm sorry, what part of the concept of an apology do you not quite "get"? Of course I was wrong in what I said. That's why I'm apologizing. I was wrong in that I insulted a friend and I was doubly wrong that I did it just to proce a point, which demeans him as a human being.

What are you waiting for? Me to bow and kiss your feet and say "OH YES YOU ARE RIGHT FOR TELLING ME I DID SOMETHING BAD! IT IS TOO BAD I DID NOT START A THREAD TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE BAD THING I DID AND THAT I DO NOT FEEL TERRIBLE ABOUT THIS THING I DID AT ALL."
Urmmm...I said I thought you were "wronged" in being Banned. How is that asking you to bow at my feet? I said you should NOT have been banned. It was wrong. Wrong. Bad. Not good. Banning bad for Typo.

[Guapo Méndez]

about the flurry of PMs I got.

You got furry PM's?

Quick! Page Dr. Kramer!

[Spackling Compound]

How you can find this as a personal insult to West, and/or a grandstand play by Morts, is beyond me. The apology was sincere, and was Morts taking responsibility for his wrong actions, in public where it occured... and I for one respect him for doing so at the personal cost this incurs.

Question, and forgive me if this seems "quaint", but has anyone asked west how he feels or thinks?

[Sentry]

i thought one of the rules of the forum was nobody talks about why people got banned. Does that mean we may all face the chop... :confused:

[Conn Seanery]

With his hands and brain?

[Typo Lad]

As I understand it, in the Jewish Tradition there's a Holy Day (is it Rosh Hashanah (sp?), Morts?) that involves asking forgiveness of everyone you've wronged throughout the year.

Technically, you start asking before Rosh Hashanah and have to have said forgivness "locked" by Yom Kippur. The Ten Days of Penance, or Asseret Y'May T'shuvah.

While Morts observes that day, he doesn't wait for it to roll around to take responsibility and pay his dues when he's wronged someone. He lives it every day.

...

Thank you.

It should be noted that in this case, a public apology is required by Jewish Law. Being Mvaseh someone B'Rabim (Shaming someone in public) requires a public apology. The action is actually tantamount to murder.

So needless to say, I'm taking my thoughtlessness quite seriously.

How you can find this as a personal insult to West, and/or a grandstand play by Morts, is beyond me.

Well, to be fair, the part before the apology was a grandstanding play wherin I insulted West. So once I've done it once, all my behavior can and should be suspect.

The apology was sincere, and was Morts taking responsibility for his wrong actions, in public where it occured... and I for one respect him for doing so at the personal cost this incurs.

Thank you. I know I lost the respect of at least one poster who IMed and told me so in no uncertain terms.

[Guapo Méndez]

Question, and forgive me if this seems "quaint", but has anyone asked west how he feels or thinks?


Have you done that?

[Solaris]

Question, and forgive me if this seems "quaint", but has anyone asked west how he feels or thinks?


I for one respect West's right to choose to respond publically, privately, or not at all. If he wants us to know how he sees this/feels about it, he'll post. I'm not gonna go hunting him up to ask him about it like a reporter shoving a mike in someone's face saying "And Mr. West3man, how do you feel about the situation?"

[Dreadstar]

I think you should start a thread apologizing for this thread, Morts.

[Michael P]

i thought one of the rules of the forum was nobody talks about why people got banned. Does that mean we may all face the chop... :confused:
You thought wrong. Generally, whiny bitching about why someone got banned is frowned upon. However, since Typo Lad brought it up himself, and since his last post before the ban literally contained the phrase "HEY MODS BAN ME," and since there is no whiny bitching other than Spack's endeavoring to prove that his keyboard works, this is an exception.

[Dreadstar]

You thought wrong. Generally, whiny bitching about why someone got banned is frowned upon. However, since Typo Lad brought it up himself, and since his last post before the ban literally contained the phrase "HEY MODS BAN ME," and since there is no whiny bitching other than Spack's endeavoring to prove that his keyboard works, this is an exception.

Exactly.

As a matter of fact, didn't Kramer come back and publicly air the reasons behind his banning a couple months back, as well?

The reason it usually isn't discussed is in deference to the privacy of the individual. If the individual airs it, it's pretty much a waiver, wouldn't you think?

[Spackling Compound]

You thought wrong. Generally, whiny bitching about why someone got banned is frowned upon. However, since Typo Lad brought it up himself, and since his last post before the ban literally contained the phrase "HEY MODS BAN ME," and since there is no whiny bitching other than Spack's endeavoring to prove that his keyboard works, this is an exception.
Good morning, sunshine!

[Michael P]

Good morning, sunshine!
The earth says hello!

[K'Nort]

You twinkle above us....


I hate you, Michael.

[Michael P]

We twinkle below...

My work here is done.

[Tadhg Adams]

It should be noted that in this case, a public apology is required by Jewish Law. Being Mvaseh someone B'Rabim (Shaming someone in public) requires a public apology. The action is actually tantamount to murder.



Green Beret of Religions.

[Spike-X]

I said you should NOT have been banned. It was wrong. Wrong. Bad. Not good. Banning bad for Typo.

And again, you're wrong. Morts most definitely should have been banned for what he said. He acknowledged as much in the original thread.

[Typo Lad]

Green Beret of Religions.

Only with more drinking.

[Jeff Brady]

This thread is 64 replies too long.

[Dennis K]

This thread is 64 replies too long.


Not anymore it isn't.

[Typo Lad]

This thread is 64 replies too long.

Thank you. I felt it would be poor taste if I said that.

[kmeyers]

I think it's good of you to apologize, but I think the point you were trying to make was bad. You were trying to prove that anyone can be banned at CBR, not just Rumblers. I think that's pretty common knowledge, and there is already evidence to back that up without insulting anyone...MacQ, and Jeffrey Kramer have been banned before..and rickd permanently.

The way this insult went down, it was (in my opinion) like saying "it's ok to insult someone if I was trying to make a point in the argument." Which is pretty much what anyone throwing insults tends to think.

Another thing it seemed like, "I'll only recieve a temp ban if I was making a point," type of thing. You obviously only expected a temp ban, which leads to more people expecting temporary bans, and even letting insults fly because of that, because...oh well, "I'll be back in a few days." No big deal.

I commend you for the apology, I just think the point you were trying to make was unnecessary, and actually lessens the impact/seriousness of bans in general.

[Typo Lad]

I think it's good of you to apologize, but I think the point you were trying to make was bad.

Hmmm?

You were trying to prove that anyone can be banned at CBR, not just Rumblers. I think that's pretty common knowledge, and there is already evidence to back that up without insulting anyone...MacQ, and Jeffrey Kramer have been banned before..and rickd permanently.

Well, I was trying to prove that anyone could be banned but yeah, you've shown why that point was unnesecary.

Now I feel worse.

The way this insult went down, it was (in my opinion) like saying "it's ok to insult someone if I was trying to make a point in the argument." Which is pretty much what anyone throwing insults tends to think.

See, that's what I feel like a heel about. Whatever my point was, good or bad, I was still a dick.

Another thing it seemed like, "I'll only recieve a temp ban if I was making a point," type of thing. You obviously only expected a temp ban, which leads to more people expecting temporary bans, and even letting insults fly because of that, because...oh well, "I'll be back in a few days." No big deal.

I... I had not even thought of that. Damn.

Although for the record, as a person who had been warned in the past and has now been temp banned, I'd best stay on my toes.

I commend you for the apology, I just think the point you were trying to make was unnecessary, and actually lessens the impact/seriousness of bans in general.

Well now I feel even more worse. Which is saying a lot.

[Tom]

Although for the record, as a person who had been warned in the past and has now been temp banned, I'd best stay on my toes.


That is something that anyone thinking of trying this again needs to consider. Temp bans make permabans much more likely in your future.

[kmeyers]

Well now I feel even more worse. Which is saying a lot.

I honestly didn't mean to make you feel worse, because I know you really do regret saying it. I just wanted say how it looked to me.

..and I'm guilty of as much dickery as anyone at times, so maybe some good will come out of all this after all, and more people will think about it before saying something they'll regret, even if they think it's for a good reason.

[Nate C.]

Spack,

You know who would agree with Tom and not agree with you on this issue?

Jesus.

[Tom]

Spack,

You know who would agree with Tom and not agree with you on this issue?

Jesus.
We go way back.

[Nate C.]

We go way back.

Really? I asked him about you last week.

He just looked sideways at me and said, "who?"

[Typo Lad]

Spack,

You know who would agree with Tom and not agree with you on this issue?

Jesus.

Okay, now you've got me rethinking my position.
















Sorry if I offended, Going for the easy joke. Don't hurt me

[Tom]

Really? I asked him about you last week.

He just looked sideways at me and said, "who?"
Remind him about the time he shot wine through his nose.

[Typo Lad]

Remind him about the time he shot wine through his nose.

Did it start out as water?

[Nate C.]

Remind him about the time he shot wine through his nose.

Well, I did say, "Philly" and "garden hose" and he nodded, smiled and winked.

[Dom]

I think we've missed an important issue.

When did Kevin become the voice of reason and logic?

I honestly fear that we've entered a twilight zone.

[Guapo Méndez]

Really? I asked him about you last week.

He just looked sideways at me and said, "who?"

Heh.

The other day it hit me.

J'onn J'onzz is the martian manhunter.

His brother is T'omm. T'omm J'onzz.

On topic:

How could Jesus forget T'omm J'onzz?

[Nate C.]

Okay, now you've got me rethinking my position.

Hey, whatever it takes for you to come to belief. ;)

(see how innocuous your statement actually was?)

[Tom]

Did it start out as water?
He was drinking water and I mooned him. It was a great way to get good wine for free.

[Typo Lad]

Hey, whatever it takes for you to come to belief. ;)

(see how innocuous your statement actually was?)

My Rebbe warned me how you Christians would entrap me on that internet!

[Ed Cunard]

He was drinking water and I mooned him. It was a great way to get good wine for free.

"Those specks and impurities may be boogers, but they taste divine."

[Dreadstar]

My Rebbe warned me how you Christians would entrap me on that internet!

Did he warn you of our plot to get you to eat a cheeseburger?

[Dom]

How could Jesus forget T'omm J'onzz?

It's not unusual.

[Nate C.]

Tom and Morts,

thank you for making my afternoon.

Seriously.

And for anyone whose offended-I'm sorry.

Not that this has been sacriligeous.

But that you're offended.

[Smoogis]

Did he warn you of our plot to get you to eat a cheeseburger?

*Teases with a poptart*

[Typo Lad]

Did he warn you of our plot to get you to eat a cheeseburger?

Austin actually told em anytime I want a burger, he'll gladly oblige by putting a gun to my head.

I miss that boy!

[Nate C.]

My Rebbe warned me how you Christians would entrap me on that internet!

"that internet"

"the gays"

"you Christians"

LOLOL.

[Ed Cunard]

It's not unusual.

I might not be Jesus, but we've almost sort of got something in common.

You made me spit coffee out of my nose.

[Dreadstar]

Austin actually told em anytime I want a burger, he'll gladly oblige by putting a gun to my head.

I miss that boy!

But Austin didn't have a gun.

Guess who does?

[kmeyers]

I think we've missed an important issue.

When did Kevin become the voice of reason and logic?

I honestly fear that we've entered a twilight zone.

I know...I'm scared too.

hold me.

[Dom]

I know...I'm scared too.

hold me.

Don't have to ask me twice.

Anyone want in on this?

[Nate C.]

Don't have to ask me twice.

Anyone want in on this?

Yes, Please!

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

Yes, Please!

Dammit, Nate! If it were anyone but you, a "Lucky Pierre" joke would be perfect. Oh, well.

[Nate C.]

Dammit, Nate! If it were anyone but you, a "Lucky Pierre" joke would be perfect. Oh, well.

In the immortal words of Alfred E. Neuman, "why not me?"

(or is a "lucky pierre" a bad thing, and I should be thankful?)

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

In the immortal words of Alfred E. Neuman, "why not me?"

(or is a "lucky pierre" a bad thing, and I should be thankful?)

Be thankful.

[Spackling Compound]

Spack,

You know who would agree with Tom and not agree with you on this issue?

Jesus.

Nah. That's not it. Maybe Oprah.

[Typo Lad]

*Teases with a poptart*

Forgive this child L-rd, she knows not what she does.

[Nate C.]

Be thankful.

Thank you. :p

[Typo Lad]

But Austin didn't have a gun.

Guess who does?
Technically, there has to be a fear of death. I know you're a good enough shot that you'd only wound me.

[Nate C.]

Nah. That's not it. Maybe Oprah.

No, Spack, it is it.

Jesus would have fully held a person's public fault to public scrutiny and allowed private forgiveness for private failures.

This theme runs all throughout scripture, from the "mote and beam" passage to the "daylight and secret" ones.

Also, a cursory look at Proverbs would lead one to the same conclusions.

"For whatever a man sows, he shall also reap" is the center of this discussion. We should be thankful that all of our sins aren't broadcast for the world to see, but when they are, we should repent publicly and let pride be hanged.

[Dom]

Nah. That's not it. Maybe Oprah.

According to my mom, there is no difference.

[Spackling Compound]

No, Spack, it is it.

Jesus would have fully held a person's public fault to public scrutiny and allowed private forgiveness for private failures.

This theme runs all throughout scripture, from the "mote and beam" passage to the "daylight and secret" ones.

Also, a cursory look at Proverbs would lead one to the same conclusions.

"For whatever a man sows, he shall also reap" is the center of this discussion. We should be thankful that all of our sins aren't broadcast for the world to see, but when they are, we should repent publicly and let pride be hanged.
Where does the part about when you disagree with your brother, go to your brother before you go public and make peace fall in? Mt 5:24.
Maybe that was in the retcon version.

And believe me, pride was all but hanged here today.

[Nate C.]

Where does the part about when you disagree with your brother, go to your brother before you go public and make peace fall in? Mt 5:24.
Maybe that was in the retcon version.

You are correct about that passage. It's a good one to discuss. And I always try to follow that principle. When it's a private affair.

Morts isn't asking for West's forgiveness publicly (unless I mis-read that.) He's admitting fault publicly. He should indeed ask for West's forgiveness privately (and knowing him, I bet he has).

Oh, and you're being condescending.

[Spackling Compound]

You are correct about that passage. It's a good one to discuss. And I always try to follow that principle. When it's a private affair.

Morts isn't asking for West's forgiveness publicly (unless I mis-read that.) He's admitting fault publicly. He should indeed ask for West's forgiveness privately (and knowing him, I bet he has).

Oh, and you're being condescending.
Actually, he wasn't asking for forgiveness. There's a difference in reconciliation and apology. However, he wasn't admitting fault publicly either. In fact, he addressed on a public thread west3man. Here's the first post:
Has it been 48 hours already?

The purpose of this thread is to apologize to west3man. I saw a chance with your post to make a point and took it without thinking how my words would offend the person I was replying to, in this case, you.

If you experienced any embarrassment due to my actions, I'm terribly sorry and hope that I can make it up to you.

Thanks.

And calling me condescending? Thanks. Bless you. Luke 6:28

[Nate C.]

And calling me condescending? Thanks. Bless you. Luke 6:28

Shouldn't you have responded to that in PM?

[Spackling Compound]

Shouldn't you have responded to that in PM?

Nah, I discount the Gospel here and do this for my immediate reward. Pharisee that I be...Mt 23:5.

[Michael P]

Actually, he wasn't asking for forgiveness. There's a difference in reconciliation and apology. However, he wasn't admitting fault publicly either. In fact, he addressed on a public thread west3man. Here's the first post:

And you find that not to be an admission of fault?

[Spackling Compound]

And you find that not to be an admission of fault?

You must have strong legs, running from all the hamburgers trying to eat you.

(Now THAT was condescending.)

Admission of fault: Dear CBR: I was wrong in saying crap about west3man.

Apology (public): I am sorry to the CBR community for being mean to west3man.

Apology (private): West, I'm sorry for offending you.

[Michael P]

Admission of fault: Dear CBR: I was wrong in saying crap about west3man.

Apology (public): I am sorry to the CBR community for being mean to west3man.

Apology (private): West, I'm sorry for offending you.
... Okay, rather than continue batting this back and forth with you until I get myself banned, I'm simply going to say, "You're wrong," and put you on ignore.

[Spackling Compound]

... Okay, rather than continue batting this back and forth with you until I get myself banned, I'm simply going to say, "You're wrong," and put you on ignore.

Good, one less bell to answer, one less snarky post to endure.

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

Hey, when did this become the new "People will argue about anything" thread?

Spack, you made your point. Just about everyone else disagrees with you, but point's made.

Where's Dread's "beat the dead horse" emoticon when you need it?

[Spackling Compound]

Hey, when did this become the new "People will argue about anything" thread?

Spack, you made your point. Just about everyone else disagrees with you, but point's made.

Where's Dread's "beat the dead horse" emoticon when you need it?

Yeah, I have this thing about getting in the last word on this one.

So, add this to the increasing number of posts on this "apology" thread.

By the way, I apologize for nothing.

[Dreadstar]

Where's Dread's "beat the dead horse" emoticon when you need it?

Here:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/Aliaswit/deadhorse.gif

[Dreadstar]

By the way, I apologize for nothing.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/Aliaswit/deadhorse.gif

[Dr. Hfuhruhurr]

Thank you, Dread. Timely, as usual.

[Spackling Compound]

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/Aliaswit/deadhorse.gif
Somehow this reminds me of....http://forums.comicbookresources.com/images/statusicon/thread_lock.gif

[Dreadstar]

I think it's a compulsion, Doc H.

What's your prognosis?

[Dennis K]

... Okay, rather than continue batting this back and forth with you until I get myself banned, I'm simply going to say, "You're wrong," and put you on ignore.



Or in other words, "so there"

[Spackling Compound]

Or in other words, "so there"
Keep it up, Dennis and you'll get a "http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/Aliaswit/deadhorse.gif "

Owies.

[Dreadstar]

nah, Dennis hasn't flailed the deceased equine in this thread yet.

[Typo Lad]

Cringe.

You killed my thread.

[Dan Apodaca]

Yeah, I have this thing about getting in the last word on this one.

On this one?

[howyadoin]

On this one?I think this'd be a good place to use the classic "did I stutter?" response.

[Guapo Méndez]

Admission of fault: Dear CBR: I was wrong in saying crap about west3man.

Apology (public): I am sorry to the CBR community for being mean to west3man.

Apology (private): West, I'm sorry for offending you.


***taken from "The Spackling Compound How To Apologize My Way ('cause Any Other Way Is Not Worth A Damn)." Hardcover edition coming soon. Used with permission.

You will be quizzed later.

[Spackling Compound]

***taken from "The Spackling Compound How To Apologize My Way ('cause Any Other Way Is Not Worth A Damn)." Hardcover edition coming soon. Used with permission.

You will be quizzed later.

Index includes a book of clues...for those of you who don't have one.

[Guapo Méndez]

We are glorified spectators...neither addressed to nor implied on whatever transpired in the exchange between them. No apology is owed to the community. At least not on my book.

Maybe it's the different country, but I think Typo doesn't need to apologize to the community for his actions. The apology should be given to West and he decides how he stands with Typo.

[Spackling Compound]

We are glorified spectators...neither addressed to nor implied on whatever transpired in the exchange between them. No apology is owed to the community. At least not on my book.

Maybe it's the different country, but I think Typo doesn't need to apologize to the community for his actions. The apology should be given to West and he decides how he stands with Typo.

Well said. And those are my sentiments exactly.
Thanks for reading my book.

[Guapo Méndez]

Well said. And those are my sentiments exactly.
Thanks for reading my book.

I'm a fast reader.

And Typo did apologize to West.

[Nate C.]

1. You make an ass of yourself publicly...

a) you apologize publicly.

b) and privately.

2. You make an ass of yourself privately...

a) you apologize privately.

[Solaris]

Is this thing still going? Geez, I would've thought it would've died an ignomious death by now.

Then again, Jim/Ernest (forget his last name, brain farting here) isn't around anymore to sic some monsters on it (or Old Duke, depending on if he's doing Ernest or Jed Clampett). :D

[Michael P]

Is this thing still going? Geez, I would've thought it would've died an ignomious death by now.

Then again, Jim/Ernest (forget his last name, brain farting here) isn't around anymore to sic some monsters on it (or Old Duke, depending on if he's doing Ernest or Jed Clampett). :D
Varney. I banged his cousin.

[Dan Apodaca]

Varney. I banged his cousin.

You're the one everybody talks about? Is he as loud as everyone says?

[Spackling Compound]

Is this thing still going? Geez, I would've thought it would've died an ignomious death by now.

Then again, Jim/Ernest (forget his last name, brain farting here) isn't around anymore to sic some monsters on it (or Old Duke, depending on if he's doing Ernest or Jed Clampett). :D
I don't know what you mean.
HAhaha..."know what I mean?" Bwahahaa..ha..he..ho..oh..er..ah.