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pennywisdom
01-08-2006, 04:14 AM
I've been a fan of Grant Morrison for a long time now, and I've always thought that his particular brand of hyper-creative, envelope pushing, head tripping scripts would go nicely with Jim Lee's powerful, dynamic, and distinctly superheroic art style. In fact, I used to read Morrison's JLA and think that Lee would be the perfect artist for that title.

Earlier, it was announced that Morrison and Lee would be teaming up in 2006 for the newly re-launched Wildcats. A perfect match, and possibly an even better showcase for their dynamic than JLA would have been, and certainly a more logical pairing than Lee and Frank Miller.

I also used to day-dream about how great it would be if Brubaker and Lark would migrate to Daredevil. Not that I ever wanted them to be finished with Gotham Central, mind you. Just that if they couldn't stay on that book forever, DD would be the absolute most ideal title for them to work on. Daredevil seems custom-made for Bru and Lark, and I've been thinking that for years now.

Oddly enough, 2006 will also see that particular creative pairing as well. I'll probably like it better than I liked Bendis and Maleev's run.

Has capricious fate ever granted you the perfect creative pairing? Have you ever wanted a certain creative team on a book and then been surprised to see it happen? What fantasy teams do you still want to see on a certain title?

Chiasm
01-08-2006, 07:08 AM
Way back in the 80's when they announced Mark Silvestri would join Claremont on Uncanny X-men I thought it was the greatest pairing ever. I remember being mad when this new upcoming artist started doing issues and took Silvestri's spot. He sucks I cried in all my fanboy wrath and he won't last, he can't replace Silvestri. I think his name was Jim Lee or something like that and I seem to think he might be kinda famous now. :p In hindsight I liked Lee, I was just hooked on Silvestri at the time.

gary bolt
01-08-2006, 07:21 AM
Great story, Chiasm. Jim who?!?

StoneGold
01-08-2006, 09:09 AM
Dark Horse's Robocop vs. Terminator. Frank Miller, back when he wasn't all crazy and sucky, and Walt Simonson.

Sir Tim Drake
01-08-2006, 09:15 AM
Mark Waid and Barry Kitson on the Legion. Well, I admit that I didn't realize they were my dream team until after they were announced as the new creative team.

Brad Curran
01-08-2006, 09:47 AM
Joss Whedon and John Cassaday on X-Men. I'm a huge Whedon fan and love Casssaday's pencils. The first arc gave me everything I was looking for in an X-Men comic, a good synthesis of Claremont and Morrison's runs. And then they had to go and fight the Danger Room and kill my enthusiasm dead.

That's the best one I can think of that's actually happened. If Eric Powell ever writes and draws the Hulk, that will be one. That Devil Dinosaur comic he drew and plotted where he fough the Hulk was close, but not quite. I'd like to say Morrison and Quitely on Superman, but I kinda wanted someone with a cleaner art style, like Chris Sprouse or Cameron Stewart, drawing Morrison's Supes, as much as I like Morrison and Quitely as collaborators and enjoyed the first issue, so I can't say they were my dream Super-team.

clayholio
01-08-2006, 11:47 AM
Dark Horse's Robocop vs. Terminator. Frank Miller, back when he wasn't all crazy and sucky, and Walt Simonson.
That was a kind of a dream team at the time. And a fun book, also.

For the most part, I don't have dream teams. A lot of the artists and writers I generally like are at their best when they're doing everything themselves. I'd rather see Frank Miller doing Sin City by himself, or Matt Wagner doing more Mage or Grendel, than to see either of those guys working with anyone else.

Sentry
01-08-2006, 11:51 AM
jenkins and lee on sentry.

StoneGold
01-08-2006, 12:50 PM
I don't know if this counts as a dream team, but ever since he did the art for the first episode of the Adventures of Captain America radio Flash show on Marvel.com, I wanted to see John Cassaday on Captain America. And then he was. And the art was amazing. But the story kind of sucked.

Paradox
01-08-2006, 09:16 PM
Busiek & Pérez on Avengers. I swear hearing that nearly made "my pants move". ;)

Jake V
01-08-2006, 09:19 PM
Morrison and Quitely on All Star Superman.

Miller and Lee sounded great in theory on All Star Batman, but it didn't work out.

Magneto_X
01-08-2006, 11:48 PM
Millar & Hitch on Ultimates.

Bendis & Bagley on Spiderman.

Waid & Kitson on Legion of Super-Heroes.

Busiek & Perez on Avengers.

Whedon & Cassady on X-men.

Smith & Quesada on Daredevil.

Waid & Kubert on Ka-Zar.

pennywisdom
01-09-2006, 03:24 AM
I remember being mad when this new upcoming artist started doing issues and took Silvestri's spot. He sucks I cried in all my fanboy wrath and he won't last, he can't replace Silvestri. I think his name was Jim Lee or something like that and I seem to think he might be kinda famous now.
Har har. :p

Way back in the 80's when they announced Mark Silvestri would join Claremont on Uncanny X-men I thought it was the greatest pairing ever.
I actually like Silvestri better than Claremont. Silvestri's stint on New X-Men was great, and Hunter-Killer is great as well.

pennywisdom
01-09-2006, 03:25 AM
Busiek & Pérez on Avengers. I swear hearing that nearly made "my pants move". ;)
Dude, TMI.

HomerJay
01-09-2006, 08:54 AM
Miller & Lee on ASB&R is the only one that made my ears perk up recently.

I'd love to see a Vaughn/Cho Power Girl monthly.

pennywisdom
01-15-2006, 05:43 PM
Miller & Lee on ASB&R is the only one that made my ears perk up recently.
I love both of those guys, but I don't necessarily think they compliment each other, and I felt the same way when it was announced.

Bright-Raven
01-16-2006, 01:38 AM
No, I haven't, nor do I ever expect to.

Justin Davis
01-16-2006, 01:44 AM
No, I haven't, nor do I ever expect to.

Aren't you just a little ray of sunshine.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
01-16-2006, 01:52 AM
Morrison and Quietly on New X-men.
Casey and I didn't care who on Uncanny X-men.
(It made me pick up my first x-men book in years. Casey was a let down, as was Quietly, but Morrison was good).

Peter Milligan and Mike Allred on X-statix.
I'd been desperate for these two to team up again after X-force came to a close, and Marvel answered my prayers.

Waid and Kubert on Ka-zar (thanks to who ever mentioned it before and reminded me).
I went nuts over this concept when it was announced, but I don't think I enjoyed the book at all when I read it.

Warren Ellis and Humerto Ramos on DV8.
Two people who I was becoming intrested in in a big way teamed up on a book, that was alright, but was so naughty it was heaven to my 15 year old mind.



No, I haven't, nor do I ever expect to.

I'm sure we're only days away from the announcement of a book by you and Dave Gibbons* any second now, and then all your dreams will be true.



*Or who ever else could capture your vision perfectly.
Probably yourself I guess.

pennywisdom
01-17-2006, 02:04 AM
Aren't you just a little ray of sunshine.
All the time. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=100579&page=1&pp=15)

FunkyGreenJerusalem
01-17-2006, 03:46 AM
All the time. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=100579&page=1&pp=15)

That wasn't just depressing, it was self-indulgent, whiny and very close to crazy-talk operating on dream logic.

But that's our ol'pal Sunshine-man for you.

pennywisdom
01-17-2006, 03:55 AM
That wasn't just depressing, it was self-indulgent, whiny and very close to crazy-talk operating on dream logic.
You speak the truth. That thread was so agony-inducing it actually made me resent my own eyeballs.

But that's our ol'pal Sunshine-man for you.
"Sunshine-Man" would be a great nickname for B-R.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
01-17-2006, 03:59 AM
"Sunshine-Man" would be a great nickname for B-R.

I'd happily write a tale of his adventures, but I just know I'd read post after post about how unfair it is that I'm writing it, and not an undiscovered talent who's been working away unnoticed for years - despite some terrific proposals rejected due to editorial stupidity.

pennywisdom
01-17-2006, 04:06 AM
I'd happily write a tale of his adventures, but I just know I'd read post after post about how unfair it is that I'm writing it, and not an undiscovered talent who's been working away unnoticed for years - despite some terrific proposals rejected due to editorial stupidity.
Why are you out to destroy the comic book industry?

FunkyGreenJerusalem
01-17-2006, 04:09 AM
Why are you out to destroy the comic book industry?

Because I work in TV, so therefore I have no understanding of comic books what so ever.
The only people who can appreciate them, and then be allowed to write them, are people who have based their lives around them, and understand the character so well* that only they should be allowed to write them.


*Well, how they were when they first got into comics anyway - anything that came after THEIR honeymoon period is just plain wrong.

The Mirrorball Man
01-17-2006, 04:18 AM
Morrison & Quitely on New X-Men / All-Star Superman.

Milligan & Allred on X-Statix.

Brubaker & Cooke on Catwoman

Jeff Smith on Captain Marvel (hey, I can dream, right?)

Bright-Raven
01-17-2006, 08:31 AM
Edited... not worth the time for all the hypocritical fucks on this board.

Ed Cunard
01-17-2006, 08:36 AM
This thread runs very similar to the "You're in charge of [insert comics company]. Name your creative teams...". I've already listed such 'dream teams', and if ten members of this community were familiar with the talents I suggested, I would be amazed. Because that is how insular and limited the general comic community's knowledge and tastes are today.

Also, since most of the creators who would comprise such 'dream teams' for me are guys I know personally, I know what they're up to because I communicate with them. 90% of them have been "thrown under the bus" and aren't even in comics anymore. The other 10% won't be working for Marvel or DC because they're pretty much fed up with the corporate b.s. and are pursuing other avenues of publication outside of the comics industry.

So I have no reason to think that any such combinations will ever be announced.

Clear, Justin?


Surprise us, then--I read almost nothing from Marvel and DC, so I might know the people you're talking about. Of course, if they've been "thrown under the bus" by Marvel and DC, I still might not be familiar with their names.

Or, at least, I'd pretend I wasn't--I've got my indie snob credibility to uphold.

...

Onto the actual topic, though... I don't really have a "dream team." There are just people I'd like to see much more work from, and I'd rather they surprise me with the content and concept than work on something I'd have in mind.

west3man
01-17-2006, 08:39 AM
I dunno about a "Dream Team," at the moment, but it'd be cool to see Wieringo draw a Kirkman book.

Forefinger
01-17-2006, 12:51 PM
Miller and Lee sounded great in theory on All Star Batman, but it didn't work out.
I thought it was going to be a dream team. I was soo pumped for this book. I have dropped it after #2 but they ended up sending me 3 anyway, I may ask for my money back...

Shades0077
01-17-2006, 12:59 PM
Ennis and Dillon on anything.

Alternatively, Ennis and Robertson on Born.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
01-17-2006, 11:39 PM
Edited... not worth the time for all the hypocritical fucks on this board.

Why is everyone who disagrees with you a hypocrite?

pennywisdom
01-17-2006, 11:53 PM
B-R: There's no chance on earth that you're just biased towards these mystery artists because you know them personally, right?

And it only makes sense that the reason they're not working in the industry is because they have too much talent, and can't stand the bullshit and red-tape. There's no chance that they just suck, right?

And of course it could only be true that the reason we don't know about them is because we're close-minded dipshits... it has nothing to do with the fact that they don't even have enough material on the shelves for you to make a recommendation.

And it would only make sense that the reason you deleted your post is that you can't be buggered with the likes of US.... we're idiots, after all. You deleting your post couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you don't have any argument to speak of.

These boards are filled with some of the most open-minded comic book readers out there. How are you too elite for even the most ardent CBR indie fanatic? I find that hard to believe.

If you don't have anything to add to the thread, don't post. If you do post, there's no reason to just show up, look down your nose at people, and then leave without saying anything worthwhile.

howyadoin
01-17-2006, 11:56 PM
Why is everyone who disagrees with you a hypocrite?Because he's the only person in the comic industry who gets it, and the rest of us aren't fit to shine his shoes?

FunkyGreenJerusalem
01-18-2006, 01:23 AM
B-R:
And it would only make sense that the reason you deleted your post is that you can't be buggered with the likes of US.... we're idiots, after all.

Check your facts dude - we're hypocrites not idiots.

Hypocrites for saying who our dream team in comics are - becuase we based that on past work that's been done, not the work that COULD be done IF someone WOULD publish these people.

thik_3rd
01-18-2006, 01:37 AM
joe casey on iron man - the inevitable is as close as it's come for me. i can't claim it was my dream team though. if ladronn was doing the art instead of frazer irving...

pennywisdom
01-25-2006, 12:39 AM
I'm starting to like Joe Casey more and more.

Justin Davis
01-25-2006, 01:28 AM
Did BR call me a hypocritical fuck?