Texas Chainsaw Question

[Kamen Rider Might]

I've been told that the Texas Chainsaw Massacre was based of a true story. Is it? If so, did Leatherface really exist? If yes, what happened to him?

[Michael P]

I don't think the actual events really happened, but they based some of Leatherface's methodology on a real life serial killer's. I can't remember who right now. Ed Gein, maybe?

[StoneGold]

I've been told that the Texas Chainsaw Massacre was based of a true story. Is it? If so, did Leatherface really exist? If yes, what happened to him?
No. Very, very loosely based on a guy named Ed Gein. Do a search on him. But otherwise, no, everything in the movies are made up.

[Donald M.]

As a rule, if a horror movie claims to be based on a true story, the true story is probably Ed Gein. I don't get the endless fascination with this guy. He didn't even kill anyone, he just dug up bones and had sex with them, basically. I think. I refuse to even read about the guy, he's that lame.

[Michael P]

As a rule, if a horror movie claims to be based on a true story, the true story is probably Ed Gein. I don't get the endless fascination with this guy. He didn't even kill anyone, he just dug up bones and had sex with them, basically. I think. I refuse to even read about the guy, he's that lame.
No, he did kill some people, in addition to the necrophilia. I think the fascination surrounds the fact that he coined the "quiet loner in a small town" archetype. He was also the first American serial killer to be subject to a massive media frenzy when his crimes came out.

[sirgod]

My daughter Wanted to be a profiler when she was younger, and Of course me wanting to spare her that job, Found a strange Dascination for these kind of people, Of course they should be Put down, but for Ed Gein, here's some info...

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/gein/bill_1.html

Stephen

[Donald M.]

No, he did kill some people, in addition to the necrophilia. I think the fascination surrounds the fact that he coined the "quiet loner in a small town" archetype. He was also the first American serial killer to be subject to a massive media frenzy when his crimes came out.

Yeah, I actually do know a bit more about Gein, I was just being silly.

His story is actually quite a bit more interesting than anything in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He was also a major inspiration for the character of Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs.

[Paradox]

StoneGold dashes my illusions:

No. Very, very loosely based on a guy named Ed Gein. Do a search on him. But otherwise, no, everything in the movies are made up.

Even Jessica Biel's rack? :(

[StoneGold]

Even Jessica Biel's rack? :(
I'm guessing. I don't remember it being that large when she posed for them nudie photos when she was 17.

[HomerJay]

Even Jessica Biel's rack? :(
I say with all seriousness that they should have used an actress that wasn't as attractive for the TCM remake. I honestly think it hurt the film. I was supposed to be scared, but everytime she came on screen I was like the wolf in a Tex Avery cartoon. It completely took me out of the movie.

Exhibit A
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/HomerJay64/d52JessicaBiel045.jpg

[MsSpring]

I don't think the actual events really happened, but they based some of Leatherface's methodology on a real life serial killer's. I can't remember who right now. Ed Gein, maybe?

Yup, that's right.

Go Wisconsin!

[StoneGold]

I say with all seriousness that they should have used an actress that wasn't as attractive for the TCM remake. I honestly think it hurt the film. I was supposed to be scared, but everytime she came on screen I was like the wolf in a Tex Avery cartoon. It completely took me out of the movie.

Exhibit A
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/HomerJay64/d52JessicaBiel045.jpg
Granted, this was a couple of years ago, but you tell me, do they match up?
http://chaoticalm.com/ipw-web/gallery/albums/biel/Gear_Cover.sized.jpg

[lonewolf23k]

Yeah, I actually do know a bit more about Gein, I was just being silly.

His story is actually quite a bit more interesting than anything in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He was also a major inspiration for the character of Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs.


They might as well just make a movie about Ed Gein himself..

[MsSpring]

They might as well just make a movie about Ed Gein himself..

They did. It must not have been very good, though. I can't remember much about it. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005LDCM/103-3313444-6011868?v=glance&n=130)

[StoneGold]

They might as well just make a movie about Ed Gein himself..
They did. (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0230169/)

[StoneGold]

They did. It must not have been very good, though. I can't remember much about it. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005LDCM/103-3313444-6011868?v=glance&n=130)
Heh, I owe you a Coke. Straight to video type movie though.

[MsSpring]

Heh, I owe you a Coke. Straight to video type movie though.


Oooo. That was creepy.

Not as creepy as a human skin lampshade though.

Close.

[StoneGold]

Oooo. That was creepy.

Not as creepy as a human skin lampshade though.

Close.
If it helps, I've seen a real one.

Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem. Not a very pleasant place.






Watch as Morts pops up to tell me it was a replica. Except he can't, because he's banned. HAH!

[MsSpring]

If it helps, I've seen a real one.

Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem. Not a very pleasant place.



Wow, that didn't help at all.

Now I really am creeped out, and I kinda (dare I tell the truth?) choked on my banana. (swear, really am eating a banana).

See? Serial killer jokes were all fun and games, and you had to go along and make it icky. Thanks.

;)

[StoneGold]

Wow, that didn't help at all.

Now I really am creeped out, and I kinda (dare I tell the truth?) choked on my banana. (swear, really am eating a banana).

See? Serial killer jokes were all fun and games, and you had to go along and make it icky. Thanks.

;)
That's me, generally taking things one step too far.

[HomerJay]

Let's not forget that Ed Gein was also the inspiration behind Norman Bates as well.

[Erebus]

Pfft. Ed Gein was pretty twisted, but the wourst serial killer I can think of is Albert Fish, aka "The Grey Man". Some info about him: http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/fish/gracie_1.html
He killed at least seven children, and ate some of them. He once claimed to have cooked a little boy's testicles, but said they tasted bad, so he spit them down the toilet. When told he was going to be killed by electric chair, the idea of being burned by heat hotter then the fires of hell excited him, and theres a lot of other crazy shit about him.

[Justin Davis]

No, he did kill some people, in addition to the necrophilia. I think the fascination surrounds the fact that he coined the "quiet loner in a small town" archetype. He was also the first American serial killer to be subject to a massive media frenzy when his crimes came out.

I thought that was the uncaptured Zodiac Killer.

[StoneGold]

I thought that was the uncaptured Zodiac Killer.
Zodiac came later. I think he was just the first one where they knew there was a serial killer while the murders were ongoing.

[EZMOHR]

Funny thing about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And Bert, being from Austin, may have heard this as well. I grew up in a town called La Grange Texas. Anyway, to make a long story short, there is a town about twenty miles from La Grange called Flatonia, were they have a chili cook-off every year. Growing up in La Grange, I always heard the rumor that the Texas chanisaw Massacre really happened in Flatonia, and that the family cooked the people as chili. Stupid I know, but when you are 8, you'll believe anything.

[StoneGold]

I grew up in a town called La Grange Texas.
Here I thought the rumor about La Grange was something else entirely.

Rumour sprendin' a-'round in that Texas town
'bout that shack outside La Grange
and you know what I'm talkin' about.
Just let me know if you wanna go
to that home out on the range.
They gotta lotta nice girls.

Have mercy.

A haw, haw, haw, haw, a haw.
A haw, haw, haw.

Well, I hear it's fine if you got the time
and the ten to get yourself in.
A hmm, hmm.
And I hear it's tight most ev'ry night,
but now I might be mistaken.
hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.

Have mercy.

[EZMOHR]

Here I thought the rumor about La Grange was something else entirely.

Rumour sprendin' a-'round in that Texas town
'bout that shack outside La Grange
and you know what I'm talkin' about.
Just let me know if you wanna go
to that home out on the range.
They gotta lotta nice girls.

Have mercy.

A haw, haw, haw, haw, a haw.
A haw, haw, haw.

Well, I hear it's fine if you got the time
and the ten to get yourself in.
A hmm, hmm.
And I hear it's tight most ev'ry night,
but now I might be mistaken.
hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.

Have mercy.


It's not a rumor about La Grange....It's true. The only thing the town will ever be remembered for. A bad Burt Reynolds/Dolly Parton movie.

[The Wayner]

Concerning TCM: A few years back, I went and ate in the farmhouse used in the original film. It had been moved from its original location and turned into a restaurant. Had a strange vibe to it, but I figured what the heck. Don't know if it's still open for business, though...

[Slappy san]

My daughter Wanted to be a profiler when she was younger, and Of course me wanting to spare her that job, Found a strange Dascination for these kind of people, Of course they should be Put down, but for Ed Gein, here's some info...

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/gein/bill_1.html

Stephen

Interesting read.

[Slappy san]

If it helps, I've seen a real one.

Watch as Morts pops up to tell me it was a replica. Except he can't, because he's banned. HAH!

Really? Why?

[StoneGold]

Really? Why?
Why about the lamp, or why about the banning?

[Slappy san]

Why about the lamp, or why about the banning?

the banning...

i think im getting posters mixed up too. too many times people refer to posters by their real names and not their screennames. I've been here since forever (96?97?)...but I can't keep track.

[zilch]

Some Gein tidbits...

there's an underground comic with a beautiful Wm Stout cover of Ed in his kitchen cooking up a heart.

Ed was seen taking a field-dressed carcas back through town. He told people it was a deer. Rumors have persisted that he offered up some "deer liver" to some town folk.

In the wonderfully twisted Post Brothers comic, one of the brothers visits "Club Ed", with the showgirl dressed as deer. One of the items on the menu was "Uncle Ed's Very Scary Chili"

[Paradox]

Morts = Typo Lad, slap.

He sacrificed himself on purpose in the banning thread to make a point. It's just creepy that he got banned on Friday and will "arise" on Sunday. :p

[StoneGold]

Morts = Typo Lad, slap.

He sacrificed himself on purpose in the banning thread to make a point. It's just creepy that he got banned on Friday and will "arise" on Sunday. :p
Heh, I already did the resurrection on Christmas bit. And yeah, I know it was ass backwards, but I wasn't going to wait until Easter.

[Donald M.]

Funny thing about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And Bert, being from Austin, may have heard this as well. I grew up in a town called La Grange Texas. Anyway, to make a long story short, there is a town about twenty miles from La Grange called Flatonia, were they have a chili cook-off every year. Growing up in La Grange, I always heard the rumor that the Texas chanisaw Massacre really happened in Flatonia, and that the family cooked the people as chili. Stupid I know, but when you are 8, you'll believe anything.

Actually, I think that was the premise for the sequel.

[Gilda Dent]

Pfft. Ed Gein was pretty twisted, but the wourst serial killer I can think of is Albert Fish, aka "The Grey Man". Some info about him: http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/fish/gracie_1.html
He killed at least seven children, and ate some of them. He once claimed to have cooked a little boy's testicles, but said they tasted bad, so he spit them down the toilet. When told he was going to be killed by electric chair, the idea of being burned by heat hotter then the fires of hell excited him, and theres a lot of other crazy shit about him.

I see you Albert Fish, and raise you Pedro Lopez (http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/pedro_lopez/1.html). 350 victims, all young girls. Currently free after having served his sentence and having been secretly released.

Ed Gein killed maybe 2. The fascination with him is because of the skin vest he made from corpses and victims, and because of Robert Bloch's book which was loosely based on his story.

The inspiration for Texas Chainsaw Massacre was the idea of what if there was a whole family of Ed Geins?

Gilda

[Michael P]

The inspiration for Texas Chainsaw Massacre was the idea of what if there was a whole family of Ed Geins?

The family that slays together, stays together?

[The Wayner]

The inspiration for Texas Chainsaw Massacre was the idea of what if there was a whole family of Ed Geins?

Actually, if you want to get technical, Tobe Hooper has cited a busy department store as the inspiration. When visiting during the Christmas holidays, Hooper saw a display of chainsaws and thought they would be the perfect tool for cutting through the crowd.

The rest is cream (head)cheese.

[Crimson Avenger]

I see you Albert Fish, and raise you Pedro Lopez (http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/pedro_lopez/1.html). 350 victims, all young girls. Currently free after having served his sentence and having been secretly released.
Gilda

And here I was going to mention John Wayne Gacy with his toll of 33. Lopez makes me want to vomit. He is quoted as saying "The moment of death is enthralling and exciting. Only those who actually kill know what I mean." That article indicated he was still in an Ecuadoran prison pending additional trials in Columbia & Peru.

I read another site that said he was being released for "good behavior." Well, there weren't any little girls in prison for him to kill.

This article (http://crime.about.com/b/a/166635.htm) indicates he promised to kill again if released, but he was driven to the Columbian border and set free. Good grief.

[Slappy san]

I see you Albert Fish, and raise you Pedro Lopez (http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/pedro_lopez/1.html). 350 victims, all young girls. Currently free after having served his sentence and having been secretly released.

Gilda

Interesting read but it doesnt say anything about him being released.

[Gilda Dent]

Interesting read but it doesnt say anything about him being released.

He served his sentence, and at the end was escorted to the border in the middle of the night and released. He hasn't been seen since, and there hasn't been a rash of missing girls, so it's possible he just stopped, and it's possible he has been killed himself.

Gilda

[Hiromi]

and it's possible he has been killed himself.

Gilda

One can always hope...

Dahmer's another fun one! Made even more fun by the utter imcopetence displayed by the Police which allowed him to kill(and worse) quite a few more of his victims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

[bobkatt013]

I raise you a HH Homes he had his own murder castle. Read about him here http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/holmes/index_1.html