View Full Version : MERGE: The WHAT IF . . . Story Ideas Thread
o1pickleboy
08-16-2005, 02:55 AM
Give me some What if and/or Exiles story ideas. What alternate reality would you think would be cool.
Here are some of mine.
What If.
The Fantasitc Four were the Fantastic Four horseman of Apolcalpse?
I would like to see in Exiles I world of magic that has a city of Science run by Reed Richards, Tony Stark and Henry Pym. The world would mostly be covered with mystic territories controled by Dr Doom, Scarlet Witch, and Dr Strange. I could see this being a long arc doing a indepth exploration of this mystical reality.
dingo
08-16-2005, 02:59 AM
What if...? Doctor Doom had been a woman.
Atom_basher
08-16-2005, 03:03 AM
what if storm couldnt control the weather.
Storm: the worst codename in the world
powergirl
08-16-2005, 03:30 AM
what if spiderman had organic webshooters?
milhouse123321
08-16-2005, 03:35 AM
What if there were actually THREE spider clones and neither of these two were the real one..
powergirl
08-16-2005, 04:17 AM
What if there were actually THREE spider clones and neither of these two were the real one..
what if mary jane watson had three breasts?
milhouse123321
08-16-2005, 04:22 AM
what if mary jane watson had three breasts?
I LIKE IT!!!
powergirl
08-16-2005, 04:38 AM
what if? powergirl expanded out of her top?
Alan2099
08-16-2005, 08:27 AM
What if the Watcher was a pervert?
What if Logan, Bruce Banner, Dan Ketch, and Peter Park had been the original Fantastic Four?
What if Nick Fury became Captain America?
What if Ironman let Squirrel Girl join the Avengers?
What if Galactus spared the Skrull Homeworld?
IronLegionaire
08-16-2005, 08:58 AM
what if the superheroes finally tired of space threats (Shi'ar, Skrulls, Kree) and wiped them out then established an empire?
Kirayoshi
08-16-2005, 09:05 AM
What if Shadowcat had confronted Colossus just before he took the Legacy Cure?
What if Jean Grey had been found in Ord's dungeon in AXM #5 instead of Colossus?
(Ultimate Spider-Man) What if MJ had been bitten by the spider along with Peter? (It did land on her after it bit Peter, remember.)
sixstringguild
08-16-2005, 09:28 AM
What if Steve Rogers took over SHIELD?
o1pickleboy
09-06-2005, 11:01 PM
I would like to see. An exiles story with Hyperion traveling to AOA to prevent the exiles from forming. They could call in it Age of Hyperion.
Steve
09-06-2005, 11:25 PM
What if Ron Jeremy became the ultimate mutant and destroyed the Marvel Universe?
Legato
09-06-2005, 11:41 PM
What If The Original X-Men became Agents of SHIELD?
What If Harry Osborne became Spider-Man instead of Peter?
What If The Legacy Virus never happened?
What If Captain America had been founed in the future instead of the present?
What If The Red Skull ruled the world? Which brings me back to the Captain America What If.
What If The Fantastic Four were actually mutants?
What If Mary Jane died instead of Gwen Stacy?
What If Xavier never existed?
twilight
09-07-2005, 02:39 AM
What if Reed Richards had taken three different people into space with him?
Alan2099
09-07-2005, 08:32 AM
What if Doom's device had ruined Reed Richards' face?
What if Ben Reilly was the true Spider-man?
What if Green Goblin had died when impaled by the Glider?
What if Bucky had been forzen in ice with Ccaptain America?
o1pickleboy
09-07-2005, 09:55 AM
What If.
Magneto had recuited the X- Men instead of Xavier?
Sinster never betrayed Apocalpse in 19 century?
Captain America had been unfrozen eariler?
During Atlantis Attacks Moon Knight and Punisher failed to stop the serpent drug from turning humans into Snake people?
During Atlantis Attacks Namor died?
During Atlantis Attacks Thor is unable to convince his brother to help?
For Exiles I think I would be cool for them to visit the world from the Atlantis Attacks What If(25). Trying to prevent Set from winning.
Tragix
09-07-2005, 09:59 AM
WHAT IF the Avengers were been born in Italy? :D
Prelude
09-07-2005, 12:12 PM
What if ... Doom held the Infinity Gauntlet instead of Thanos?
What if ... Dark Phoenix killed the X-Men?
What if ... There were no variant covers?
What if ... Magneto led the Great Lakes Avengers?
Legato
09-07-2005, 12:30 PM
What If Betty Ross became The Hulk instead of Bruce?
What If Blade became king of the vampires?
What If Daredevil's father never got killed?
What If Elektra never joined The Hand?
What If Sabertooth joined The Avengers?
What If...the original Defenders never disbanded?
What If...Loki had founded the Avengers?
What If...Ms. Marvel took over Rogue's body?
What If...someone else became Phoenix?
What If...Madelyne Pryor joined the X-Men?
What If...Captain America never joined the Avengers?
What If...Ghost Rider were a villain?
What If...Beast never quit the X-Men?
What If...Moondragon was raised by Thanos?
What If...Cypher never joined the New Mutants?
What If...the X-Men never left Asgard?
What If...Storm became Goddess of Thunder?
What If...Psylocke never became Captain Britain?
Joseph Sun
09-07-2005, 01:30 PM
What if Professor X (or whoever) found Thor's hammer?
What if reed used the ultimate nullifier on Galactus?
What if Spider-Man never found the black suit?
What if the Punisher became the spirit of vengeance?
jadegiant77
09-07-2005, 01:45 PM
Damn it, Legato, "What If...Betty Ross had become the Hulk" was MY idea! :D
What If the Beyonder had joined the Avengers?
What If the heroes were villains and vice versa?
What If the Hulk had remained an Avenger?
What If All five of the original X-men had become Apocalypse's Horsemen?
What If Spider-Man had gained the Infinity Gauntlet?(I dunno how that coulda happened...)
What If Wolverine became Phoenix? (Now I'm being silly :p )
What If Sue Richards was The Thing?
What If the alien symbiote had possessed Mary Jane instead of Eddie Brock?
What If both Rick Jones and Bruce Banner became Hulks?
What If Ultron Mark Twelve(the one with human emotions) had lived?
What If Spidey had the powers of the Fantastic Four? (Don't ask. ;) )
What If Phoenix didn't die at the end of Planet X?
What If Frank Castle and his wife died, but his children didn't?
Prelude
09-07-2005, 02:02 PM
What If ... Punisher hallucinated his family's death?
What If ... Mary Jane fell in love with Doom?
What If ... Doom, Thanos, and Galactus teamed up?
What If ... Stan Lee was the real Spider-Man?
Alan2099
09-07-2005, 02:29 PM
What If Wolverine became Phoenix? (Now I'm being silly :p )
Actually, before they started with all this "Jean has ALWAYS been Phoenix it's part of her" stuff (and frankly I don't buy that either), that idea could work.
Originally, the X-men were in a shuttle crashing towards the earth when Jean Grey agreed to try to pilot it and use her TK to hold back the radiation. Phoenix noticed her dying and took her place. For a what if, Logan would have just tried to use his healing factor to live though the radiation. Simple set up really.
jadegiant77
09-07-2005, 02:40 PM
Actually, before they started with all this "Jean has ALWAYS been Phoenix it's part of her" stuff (and frankly I don't buy that either), that idea could work.
Originally, the X-men were in a shuttle crashing towards the earth when Jean Grey agreed to try to pilot it and use her TK to hold back the radiation. Phoenix noticed her dying and took her place. For a what if, Logan would have just tried to use his healing factor to live though the radiation. Simple set up really.
My thoughts exactly. Just imagine Wolverine with flame claws and fire hair! :D
Actually, before they started with all this "Jean has ALWAYS been Phoenix it's part of her" stuff (and frankly I don't buy that either), that idea could work.
Originally, the X-men were in a shuttle crashing towards the earth when Jean Grey agreed to try to pilot it and use her TK to hold back the radiation. Phoenix noticed her dying and took her place. For a what if, Logan would have just tried to use his healing factor to live though the radiation. Simple set up really.
Wolverine lacked the knowledge to fly a space shuttle. That's why Jean Grey flew the space shuttle; she believed her telepathy gave her enough knowledge from Dr. Peter Corbeau & her telekinetic powers would keep out the solar flare. Unfortunately, the solar flare was too powerful that Jean's telekinetic powers withered under the onslaught. She succumbed to the solar radiation.
I'm not too certain Wolverine's healing factor would have been powerful enough to withstand the solar flare. I think he & the X-Men would have died before they reached Earth.
tangentman
09-07-2005, 04:00 PM
"What if the Scarlet Witch had become the Celestial Madonna?"
"What if Rogue betrayed the X-Men?" (circa UXM 170)
"What if Graviton had killed the Thunderbolts?"
"What if Cypher lived?"
Legato
09-07-2005, 04:29 PM
What If Illyana became The Phoenix? Imagine Illyana flying around as the Phoenix with the Soulsword in hand. I would have it start after the events of the Dark Phoenix Saga and Jean's death.
What If Gambit became the 3rd Summers brother?
What If Xavier is Rachel's father? With the talk about Chuck having feelings for Jean this may not be as ridiculous as it sounds.
What If Xavier got killed by the fake Magneto?
What If Mary Jane married Harry Osborne?
Harold of the Rocks
09-07-2005, 04:36 PM
...The Burglar killed Ben and May?
...The Sentry was never 'forgotten'?
... Turner D. Century gained the Power Cosmic?
... The fanboys had no internet?
(shudder) The Horror!!
;)
Alan2099
09-07-2005, 04:37 PM
Wolverine lacked the knowledge to fly a space shuttle. That's why Jean Grey flew the space shuttle; she believed her telepathy gave her enough knowledge from Dr. Peter Corbeau & her telekinetic powers would keep out the solar flare. Unfortunately, the solar flare was too powerful that Jean's telekinetic powers withered under the onslaught. She succumbed to the solar radiation.
I'm not too certain Wolverine's healing factor would have been powerful enough to withstand the solar flare. I think he & the X-Men would have died before they reached Earth.
Well, Jean didn't know how to fly one either. If she could read one person's mind, then she could link his and Logan's.
As for Wolverine surviving, well, Jean didn't exactly live either, so that point can be overlooked.
Bearpod91
09-07-2005, 04:53 PM
What if...
Mutants were an artificial virus that spread?
Hulk mixed his DNA with the Thing (did that happen already?)?
Captain America was Captain Germany (I think this was said...)?
Spidey's Armor costume wasnt destroyed?
Well, Jean didn't know how to fly one either. If she could read one person's mind, then she could link his and Logan's.
As for Wolverine surviving, well, Jean didn't exactly live either, so that point can be overlooked.
When Jean Grey became Phoenix, she used her new vast powers to save the X-Men. Otherwise, had Jean not become Phoenix, Jean Grey & the other X-Men would have died.
Prelude
09-07-2005, 06:04 PM
What If ... Wolverine and X-23 had a baby?
What If ... The High Evolutionary joined the Fantastic Four?
What If ... Marvel comics were never delayed?
What If ... The Great Lakes Avengers beat the X-Men?
What If Xavier is Rachel's father? With the talk about Chuck having feelings for Jean this may not be as ridiculous as it sounds.I'm guessing a certain writer can make this happen.
Legato
09-07-2005, 07:51 PM
What If ... Wolverine and X-23 had a baby?
Wolverine having sex with his clone?! Thats even more messed up than my What If idea about Xavier and Jean.
What If Sabertooth and X-23 had a child sounds less disturbing.
Alan2099
09-07-2005, 07:54 PM
When Jean Grey became Phoenix, she used her new vast powers to save the X-Men. Otherwise, had Jean not become Phoenix, Jean Grey & the other X-Men would have died.
And? This is a what if. If Logan becomes Phoenix, maybe the rest of the team will die.
Sabrinaset
09-07-2005, 08:09 PM
What if Reed Richards becamne the Phoenix?
What if the Juggernaut really WAS unstoppable again?
What if Willingham and Rucka went to Marvel?
What if Spider-Man married the Wasp and had a threesome with Yellowjacket?
What if Fanboys stopped wondering how fast Batgirl is?
What if the Avengers started looking for Thor?
What if the Vision was powered by AA batteries?
What if the Thing was anatomically correct?
What if everyone liked Rob Liefields art?
What if Dr. Doom started wearing bling?
What if the Human Torch got diahhrea?
What if the inhabitants of Earth 616 wondered what was on 617?
What if Wong's last name was Way?
hulahulk
09-07-2005, 08:26 PM
What if Bruce Banner's research was with arachnids instead of gamma rays?
What if Peter Parker's accident was with gamma rays instead of a radioactive spider?
What if Captain America became the Spirit of Vengeance?
powerforward
09-07-2005, 08:35 PM
what if marvel's characters aged as the series progressed? if the monthly comic was actually a month in the characters lives.
Captain
09-07-2005, 08:42 PM
What If.
Magneto had recuited the X- Men instead of Xavier?
Captain America had been unfrozen eariler?
During Atlantis Attacks Moon Knight and Punisher failed to stop the serpent drug from turning humans into Snake people?
During Atlantis Attacks Thor is unable to convince his brother to help?
Actually, all of those have been done in some form or another. The last two were in the same issue Volume 2 number 25.
Prelude
09-07-2005, 08:53 PM
Wolverine having sex with his clone?! Thats even more messed up than my What If idea about Xavier and Jean.
What If Sabertooth and X-23 had a child sounds less disturbing.With comics moving in a darker direction these days, the idea can't be that disturbing. The comic could be under the MAX imprint.
I'll give you the Sabretooth one. I wouldn't mind seeing him with someone ... but maybe X-23 only had Sabretooth's baby to get Wolverine jealous? ;)
Titan Slade
09-07-2005, 08:57 PM
What If ... Wolverine and X-23 had a baby?
As hairy as Wolverine is, could you imagine what the bush on one of his female clones must be like :eek: .
Smarty Jones
09-07-2005, 09:09 PM
I'll come up with some "What If?" storylines inspired by actual events:
* What if Bishop killed The X-Men? When Bishop travels back into time with Malcolm and Randall, they start killing the rogue mutants from their future. However, The X-Men (Storm, Jean Grey, Colossus, Iceman and Archangel) try to stop them and Bishop ends up killing them, thinking they were imposters to the legends that inspired him. Realizing his mistake and later asking Charles Xavier for forgiveness, Bishop joins The X-Men and forms a new team with Cable, Sage and Caliban.
* What if Hank Pym remained Yellowjacket? When the founding member of The Avengers became Yellowjacket, he was insane enough to think he was not Hank Pym. Eventually, a series of events and inadequacies lead to Pym being dismissed by The Avengers and facing federal court martial charges after being blackmailed by Egghead. In this reality, Pym -- not Hawkeye -- kills Egghead and continues life as a supervillain and wanted fugitive.
* What if The Vision married Mantis? The synthezoid member of The Avengers was strangely attracted to Mantis, the mysterious woman who eventually became The Celestial Madonna. Both Vison (The Scarlet Witch) and Mantis (The Swordsman's spirit via the Cotati) got married to other people on the same day, but what if it was The Vision and Mantis who said "I do?" Both go off into space and live their own lives, but what how does their marriage affect Mantis' destiny?
I'll come up with some more later.
Titan Slade
09-07-2005, 09:12 PM
[color=darkred][font=arial]I'll come up with some "What If?" storylines inspired by actual events:
* What if Bishop killed The X-Men? When Bishop travels back into time with Malcolm and Randall, they start killing the rogue mutants from their future. However, The X-Men (Storm, Jean Grey, Colossus, Iceman and Archangel) try to stop them and Bishop ends up killing them, thinking they were imposters to the legends that inspired him. Realizing his mistake and later asking Charles Xavier for forgiveness, Bishop joins The X-Men and forms a new team with Cable, Sage and Caliban.
This would be an awesome story :D .
Alan2099
09-07-2005, 09:26 PM
What if Cable became Professor X.
When cable goes back in time, one of his enemies follows and they end up killing off Xavier before he ever gets the idea to found the X-men. Cable, trying to correct the time frame, alters his looks to more closely match Xaviers and goes about trying to create the X-men and Xavier's dream with his more harsh methods.
Legato
09-07-2005, 09:28 PM
With comics moving in a darker direction these days, the idea can't be that disturbing. The comic could be under the MAX imprint.
With the way things are going with DC Comics now I see your point. I wonder if Logan had sex with X-23 would that be considered masturbation since X-23 is technically Logan's clone?
Smarty Jones
09-07-2005, 09:50 PM
Here are some more:
* What if Reed Richards became Doctor Doom? During their time as college students, Victor von Doom was working on an experiment to save his mother's soul. However, Reed Richards interferes and the experiment's explosion destroys Richards' face and kills Doom. After spending two years in a coma, Richards awakes and thinks that he is Doom. Stealing away from the hospital, Richards emerges as the leader of Latveria and embarks on a dangerous mission to save the soul of Doom's mother.
* What if Namor joined Magneto? The leader of The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants and Charles Xavier surmised correctly that Namor is a mutant. Receiving offers from both men, Namor sides with Magneto. Though repulsed by how Magneto leads his Brotherhood, Namor sees him as an ally in his battle against the surface dwellers. Namor's Atlantean forces and Magneto's charges succeed in taking over the United States and Europe, but the alliance is strained when The Scarlet Witch leaves Magneto's side to join Namor's.
* What if Bullseye killed The Black Widow? Shortly before Elektra comes on the scene in "Daredevil 168," Bullseye kidnaps The Black Widow as a trap to capture Daredevil. However, during this battle The Black Widow dies at Bullseye's hand. Now haunted by her death, Daredevil joins forces with Elektra and Hawkeye to hunt down an insane Bullseye, who now has figured out that Matt Murdock is The Man without Fear and has targeted Foggy Nelson, Heather Glenn and Ben Ulrich for death.
Smarty Jones
09-07-2005, 10:45 PM
* What if S.H.I.E.L.D. found Captain America? Instead of Captain America's body being discovered by The Avengers, Nick Fury's charges pull rank that particular day and find the legendary soldier from World War II. Now the top-ranking officer for the international peace-keeping unit, Cap now leads hundreds of trained soldiers (including former Interpol agent Sean Cassidy, colleague Sam "The Falcon" Wilson and Cap's fiancee Carol Danvers) to fight international terrorists The Red Skull and Baron Zemo.
* What if Mephisto owned The Silver Surfer's soul? In a complex scheme in which Mephisto hypnotically had the herald Nova fall in love with Galactus, a fighting Silver Surfer and Nova are trapped on a planet. Mephisto appears and tells The Surfer that an unchecked Galactus will destroy countless planets without Nova to curb him. The Surfer pledges his soul to keep Galactus in check. While Galactus realizes Mephisto deceived him and defeats him, the planet devourer frees Nova from her spell but says The Surfer made his deal with Mephisto on his own -- leaving him in Hades.
* What if Iron Man joined The Hellfire Club? In this reality, a young Tony Stark joins The Hellfire Club and eventually moves into the Inner Circle. Stark becomes intoxicated with the idea of ruling the world through clandestine methods and lends his technological resources and talents to his college friend Sebastian Shaw and his lover Emma Frost. Now confronting an up-and-coming group called The Avengers, Stark dons a suit of armor to aid the Inner Circle in battle -- little knowing that his mutant allies are looking for a way to remove the human Stark from their ranks.
Alan2099
09-07-2005, 10:49 PM
What if Spider-girl was trapped in the past?
In her series, she ended up traveling though time and meeting Spider-man when he was still a rookie in highschool. What if she had never managed to get home to her own timeline?
Smarty Jones
09-08-2005, 07:44 AM
* What if Wolverine led Alpha Flight? During a battle between The X-Men and Alpha Flight, the dimunitive mutant stops the fight and agrees to go back to Canada, as seen in "Uncanny X-Men 121." However, in this reality Logan stays and becomes the leader of the Canadian superhero team. Now, Wolverine, Vindicator, Snowbird, Shaman, Northstar, Aurora, Marina and Sasquatch emerge as the premier superhero team in the world -- and eventually go into battle with Count Nefaria with Canada hanging in the balance.
* What if Medusa stayed with The Frightful Four? During her period of nomadic-like existence, Medusa was found by The Wizard and recruited into The Frightful Four. In this reality, the Inhumans never leave Attilan to find her and later she falls in love with The Wizard. Now in a dramatic battle with The Fantastic Four, Medusa meets her sister Crystal (who has temporarily replaced The Invisible Woman as a member) and questions her loyalties to her heritage or to The Wizard, The Red Ghost and The Super-Skrull.
* What if Scourge killed the Marvel heroes? The enigmatic Scourge was a programmed killer who terrorized the supervillain community. However, in this reality, Jack Monroe (Nomad) is captured as a killing machine by Henry Gyrich, Bastion and Sebastian Shaw to take down the Marvel heroes. After slaughtering minor heroes like D-Man, Triathlon and Deathcry, Scourge steps up the body count in a dramatic fashion -- killing one of The Avengers in Avengers Mansion and later one of The X-Men at the Xavier Institute! Now the heroes unite to take vengeance, while Captain America struggles with the realization one of his former charges has gone rogue.
I'll come up with more ideas, if you would like to hear them.
And? This is a what if. If Logan becomes Phoenix, maybe the rest of the team will die.
Then there would not be a point to write a 22 page comic book when all the characters die. Wolverine would not have become Phoenix because his powers would not save the X-Men.
* What if S.H.I.E.L.D. found Captain America? Instead of Captain America's body being discovered by The Avengers, Nick Fury's charges pull rank that particular day and find the legendary soldier from World War II. Now the top-ranking officer for the international peace-keeping unit, Cap now leads hundreds of trained soldiers (including former Interpol agent Sean Cassidy, colleague Sam "The Falcon" Wilson and Cap's fiancee Carol Danvers) to fight international terrorists The Red Skull and Baron Zemo.
* What if Mephisto owned The Silver Surfer's soul? In a complex scheme in which Mephisto hypnotically had the herald Nova fall in love with Galactus, a fighting Silver Surfer and Nova are trapped on a planet. Mephisto appears and tells The Surfer that an unchecked Galactus will destroy countless planets without Nova to curb him. The Surfer pledges his soul to keep Galactus in check. While Galactus realizes Mephisto deceived him and defeats him, the planet devourer frees Nova from her spell but says The Surfer made his deal with Mephisto on his own -- leaving him in Hades.
* What if Iron Man joined The Hellfire Club? In this reality, a young Tony Stark joins The Hellfire Club and eventually moves into the Inner Circle. Stark becomes intoxicated with the idea of ruling the world through clandestine methods and lends his technological resources and talents to his college friend Sebastian Shaw and his lover Emma Frost. Now confronting an up-and-coming group called The Avengers, Stark dons a suit of armor to aid the Inner Circle in battle -- little knowing that his mutant allies are looking for a way to remove the human Stark from their ranks.
All three of those ideas would make really good stories.
Smarty Jones
09-08-2005, 09:23 AM
"Then there would not be a point to write a 22 page comic book when all the characters die. Wolverine would not have become Phoenix because his powers would not save the X-Men."
I agree with DDM's stance. Part of the buy-in with "What If?" stories were they were based on the foundation of established stories, or at least a very plausible fact or relationship. The reason why the Phoenix Force came to Jean Grey in "Uncanny X-Men 100" was because she was the only one who could fly the space shuttle and use her abilities to attempt to ward off the heat and radiation when the shuttle entered Earth's atmosphere. Wolverine's healing abilities do not work in such manner. He would have had his skin sheared off his skeleton, thus The X-Men would have died.
"What If?" stories don't work well when based on totally new fiction. Having a story where Wolverine leaves The X-Men to become the leader of Alpha Flight makes more sense because it nearly happened. Having Wolverine become Phoenix when the situation in "Uncanny X-Men 100" did not make it plausible comes off as creating new fiction -- thus hampering the credibility of the concept.
"All three of those ideas would make really good stories."
Glad you liked them. I hope you find the others to be good, as well.
Smarty Jones
09-08-2005, 11:15 AM
* What if Susan Richards became Phoenix? During the famous space flight that created The Fantastic Four, Reed Richards, Susan Storm, Johnny Storm and Benjamin Grimm were exposed to cosmic rays. However, in this reality the cosmic radiation starts killing them. As the others lay dying, The Phoenix Force comes to Susan and transforms her into Phoenix. As a being with god-like powers, Phoenix tries to walk the line between loving wife and near omnipotent cosmic being.
Legato
09-08-2005, 11:27 AM
* What if Susan Richards became Phoenix? During the famous space flight that created The Fantastic Four, Reed Richards, Susan Storm, Johnny Storm and Benjamin Grimm were exposed to cosmic rays. However, in this reality the cosmic radiation starts killing them. As the others lay dying, The Phoenix Force comes to Susan and transforms her into Phoenix. As a being with god-like powers, Phoenix tries to walk the line between loving wife and near omnipotent cosmic being.
So does the Dark Phoenix story-arc still happen?
Smarty Jones
09-08-2005, 11:43 AM
"So does the Dark Phoenix story-arc still happen?"
If I was in control of the "What If?" concept, my books would have one storyline every quarter so more in-depth stories can be written.
First, I would have the Phoenix-powered Susan Richards face Galactus, who comes to Earth to consume it. Then later I could have a story where Susan Richards' thoughts become corrupted by Doctor Doom, which leads her down that path to becoming Dark Phoenix. As she starts transforming she has a philosophic discussion with Thanos on who will destroy the universe first.
Legato
09-08-2005, 12:34 PM
Dark Phoenix Susan Richards vs Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. Words cannot describe how sweet that fight would look.
Alan2099
09-08-2005, 01:02 PM
What if the Heroes Reborn Heroes came back to the regualr Marvel Universe exactly as they were presented in Heroes Reborn.
Alternatley, what if they never came back?
jadegiant77
09-08-2005, 03:18 PM
* What if Susan Richards became Phoenix? During the famous space flight that created The Fantastic Four, Reed Richards, Susan Storm, Johnny Storm and Benjamin Grimm were exposed to cosmic rays. However, in this reality the cosmic radiation starts killing them. As the others lay dying, The Phoenix Force comes to Susan and transforms her into Phoenix. As a being with god-like powers, Phoenix tries to walk the line between loving wife and near omnipotent cosmic being.
Yeah buddy! I had that idea a long time ago and drew a picture of Sue's old FF costume torn and exposing the Phoenix costume underneath. This story would so kick ass. Just imagine the Phoenix at all the major events of the FF's career--especially a battle with Silver Surfer!
Smarty Jones
09-08-2005, 03:34 PM
"Yeah buddy! I had that idea a long time ago and drew a picture of Sue's old FF costume torn and exposing the Phoenix costume underneath. This story would so kick ass. Just imagine the Phoenix at all the major events of the FF's career--especially a battle with Silver Surfer!"
The major difference in my story, it seems, is that there would NOT be a Fantastic Four. With Susan Richards as Phoenix, having the others with superhuman powers makes no sense because they cannot contribute anything beyond the Phoenix Force's scope. So Reed Richards, Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm would not have superhuman powers.
With the way things are going with DC Comics now I see your point. I wonder if Logan had sex with X-23 would that be considered masturbation since X-23 is technically Logan's clone?
Incest really. The gender fiddling makes her closer to his sister. (Twin but still...)
o1pickleboy
09-09-2005, 03:52 AM
Actually, all of those have been done in some form or another. The last two were in the same issue Volume 2 number 25.
They were close. On What If 25 all three things happened. I was wondering if only one of things happened. Set states in Atlantis Attacks that for him to win all 3 of those things would have to happen for him to win. In 616 none of those things happen. Usually In a What if only one thing happens diffenently and things change from their.
The unfrozen earlier is differnet from the other What If's because they always do a verison of Cap being unfrozen now, not one that has him unfrozen before Avengers 4.
Beamish
09-09-2005, 08:14 AM
What If...
Scarlet Witch killed all of the Avengers in Disassembled?
Moondragon became the Celestial Madonna instead of Mantis?
Mutants never existed?
Captain America died in WWII and it was Bucky that was frozen?
Black Widow's Avengers (Iceman, Angel, Beast, Ant Man II, Moondragon, She-Hulk, War Machine) actually became the team after Onslaught?
Tony Stark remained a drunk?
Villains that became heroes (Hawkeye, Black Widow, Rogue, Juggernaut, Emma Frost, Falcon, Black Knight, Songbird, MACH-4, Atlas, etc.) were always villians?
Sue Storm married Namor instead of Reed?
Crystal had married Johnny Storm?
Crystal divorced Quickslver and married Black Knight?
Rogue remained with the Brotherhood?
Storm was still a vampire?
Aunt May and Dr. Octopus were actually married?
Damian and Patsy Hellstrom took over hell and ruled it as husband and wife?
Hawkeye and Mockingbird took over hell and ruled it as husband and wife?
The Red Skull was the real Steve Rogers and Cap was a clone?
Hank Pym beat Jan to death?
All of the Wasp's "essence" was transfered into Jocasta, thus killing Jan?
Storm had stayed with the Morlocks after becoming their leader?
Yelena Belova killed Natasha and become the only Black Widow?
Frank Castle studied magic to ressurect his family?
Peter Parker had died instead of Gwen and Gwen became Spider-Woman in his honor?
Firestar became sterile?
Jarvis had died at the hands of Silverclaw during her initial attack?
A foreign government (including the U.S.) actually succeeded in overthrowning T'Challa and taken over Wakanda?
The Thunderbolts rescued Mockingbird instead of Hellcat?
Nick Fury and Black Widow hooked up?
Daredevil was blind, deaf and mute?
The "cure" to the Legacy Virus was that Mutants would be spared but only humans would become infected and die?
Atlas, Black Golaith, Hank Pym, Wasp (pick one) grew to Galactus propertions?
Beast/Tirga/Wolfsbane beacme and remained completely feral?
Sue Richards could become intangible as well as invisible?
What If...Phoenix had murdered Selene, the Black Queen?: Would Rachel be expelled from the X-Men? Would the X-Men been torn apart by Rachel's decision to mercilessly murder someone in cold blood? Would Rachel had been transformed into Dark Phoenix II?
What If...Phoenix had not tried to kill Selene?: Rachel would have been part of the X-Men to face the Marauders. What would she have done as Colossus, Shadowcat, & Nightcrawler was critically wounded? Would Nimrod have attacked the X-Men?
What If...Rachel Summers had not become Phoenix?: Would Rachel had been powerful enough to face Selene? The Beyonder? Would she have left the X-Men?
What If...Spiral had joined the X-Men?: Spiral, Mojo's agent, joins the X-Men instead of Freedom Force. As a result, Longshot is given magickal luck powers by Mojo & rapidly turns insane from the power surge. Will Mojo rule the Earth with Longshot by his side since Spiral is now an X-Man?
What If...Illyana Rasputin became the Darkchilde?: Illyana is corrupted by her own demonic nature & rules Limbo with an iron fist. S'ym serves her out of fear & hatred. He wants the Darkchilde's throne. But at what cost will it be the Earth?
What If...Deathbird became Xavier's consort?: Deathbird, exiled on Earth, tries to contact Xavier & the mutant X-Men about her mad brother, D'Ken, to access "the end of all that is." Will her alliance with the X-Men be the death of the universe?
What If...Havok became the first X-Man?: Xavier finds Alex Summers as his powers cause widespread destruction. Havok is the first X-Man to join his team at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngers.
jadegiant77
09-09-2005, 02:36 PM
The major difference in my story, it seems, is that there would NOT be a Fantastic Four. With Susan Richards as Phoenix, having the others with superhuman powers makes no sense because they cannot contribute anything beyond the Phoenix Force's scope. So Reed Richards, Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm would not have superhuman powers.
Aw come on...you HAVE to have the rest of the team to play off!They STILL get irradiated, right? They'd still become the FF. Maybe at first, Sue doesn't have the full Phoenix power, then she goes full out one day, say in the fight with Doc Doom. At least, that's how I conceived of the story.
o1pickleboy
09-10-2005, 12:30 AM
What If
All the really smart marvel character formed a think tank for the good of earth
Imagine if Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Professor X and Henry Pym focus sole on advancing mankind. They would have a pretty futuristic world made for us.
Deadpool_Disassembled
09-10-2005, 03:23 AM
What if Bendis never killed Hawkeye?
What if Bendis never wrote Disassembled?
What if an alternate dimension where Magneto rules all and everyone gets their dreams was created...oh snap.
What if the "once dead, always dead" rule applied?
Smarty Jones
09-10-2005, 06:13 AM
"Aw come on...you HAVE to have the rest of the team to play off!They STILL get irradiated, right? They'd still become the FF. Maybe at first, Sue doesn't have the full Phoenix power, then she goes full out one day, say in the fight with Doc Doom. At least, that's how I conceived of the story."
In my vision of the story, the cosmic rays would have killed Reed Richards, Susan Storm, Benjamin Grimm and Johnny Storm had the Phoenix Force not merged with Susan Storm. The cosmic rays never would have given them superhuman abilities. If anything, I would have the three men suffer either physically or mentally from absorbing all the radiation from the ill-fated flight.
Smarty Jones
09-10-2005, 06:17 AM
"'What If...Havok became the first X-Man?': Xavier finds Alex Summers as his powers cause widespread destruction. Havok is the first X-Man to join his team at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngers."
Of all your ideas, I like this one the best because it's the most simplistic one to play out. You could have a reality where Scott Summers was adopted and Alex Summers would have been the one left at the orphanage.
"'What If...Illyana Rasputin became the Darkchilde?': Illyana is corrupted by her own demonic nature & rules Limbo with an iron fist. S'ym serves her out of fear & hatred. He wants the Darkchilde's throne. But at what cost will it be the Earth?"
An interesting one, one I imagine based on Illyana Rasputin not coming back from Limbo in "Uncanny X-Men 160." That reality could be positioned as Kitty Pryde lost her grip of Illyana and could not pull her back into the mainstream Marvel reality.
Of all your ideas, I like this one the best because it's the most simplistic one to play out. You could have a reality where Scott Summers was adopted and Alex Summers would have been the one left at the orphanage.
Originally, Cyclos was the first official X-Man, although we found out Xavier had taught Jean for years. I would have simply reveresed their roles. Cyclops would have been found by Havok & Marvel Girl upon graduation from college. Unfortunately, Cyclops would have been more influenced by Mr. Sinister. I think a romance between Jean Grey & Alex Summers would have begun. Cyclops would have fallen for Lorna Dane. But, unlike the mainstream Marvel Universe, Lorna Dane would have stayed with the X-Men after Xavier recruited the new team. But Cyclops would have left the team to begin graduate studies & be a reserve X-Man.
An interesting one, one I imagine based on Illyana Rasputin not coming back from Limbo in "Uncanny X-Men 160." That reality could be positioned as Kitty Pryde lost her grip of Illyana and could not pull her back into the mainstream Marvel reality.
Illyana's story can go in all sorts of directions. Although to be corrupted by her power, Magik would have to murdered Belasco; this would have turned her permanently into the Darkchilde. I would have her return from Limbo, but she would be in her Darkchilde incarnation at all times. Her armor would be black instead of silver. Illyana's Soulsword would also be black to reflect her corrupted soul. However, Illyana's connection to Kitty remains which is where the story begins. She does join the New Mutants, but eventually, Magik joins the Hellions instead to favor the Hellfire Club. Another continuity divergence is that Illyana helps the White Queen recruit the New Mutants for Hellions. Therefore, instead of Magik & Mirage saving the New Mutants, Magik helps the White Queen subvert the New Mutants for Hellfire. The White Queen still cannot read Illyana's mind & not influenced by Emma Frost. However, Frost favors Illyana over several of her Hellions because Magik is a great resource of raw power to be manipulated. Magik, Empath, & Tarot are the core Hellions. Magik spends equal amount of time between Earth & Limbo. This troubles the White Queen. Xavier's school closes after the New Mutants are recruited by the White Queen...
Smarty Jones
09-10-2005, 09:18 AM
"Originally, Cyclops was the first official X-Man, although we found out Xavier had taught Jean for years. I would have simply reveresed their roles. Cyclops would have been found by Havok & Marvel Girl upon graduation from college. Unfortunately, Cyclops would have been more influenced by Mr. Sinister. I think a romance between Jean Grey & Alex Summers would have begun. Cyclops would have fallen for Lorna Dane. But, unlike the mainstream Marvel Universe, Lorna Dane would have stayed with the X-Men after Xavier recruited the new team. But Cyclops would have left the team to begin graduate studies & be a reserve X-Man."
I personally can see Marvel Girl and Angel as the couple in that scenario, with the typical Havok/Polaris/Iceman triangle continuing.
Mister Sinister influenced Cyclops because he was still at the orphanage when Havok was adopted. Though you could twist things even further by saying it was Mister Sinister who adopted Cyclops, leaving Havok to be discovered by Charles Xavier.
o1pickleboy
09-10-2005, 10:41 AM
With the spirit of Cyclops and Havok what if?
What If Cyclops and Havok were adducted by the Sh'ar with their parents.
This one would play out that all the pachutes were damaged. So no one escapes the plane. So the Sh'ar captures all of the Summers clan. I would lead into a space adventure with Cyclops and Havok as Starjammers. We would also have to see the X- Men play out without Cyclops. In my opinion Xavier would find another student to fill Cyclops place. I feel that he would have recuited one of the New X-Men eariler.(since it was shown that he knew about them, only because of there international issues he selected them for the second class) I believe that Thunderbird since he was in the U.S would have been selected.
What If...Nimrod joined the X-Men?: In the heat of battle with the Hellfire Club & X-Men, Nimrod realizes that he has evolved beyond his original programming: He feels emotions & learns from his mistakes, yet can he betray his original programming to destroy mutants? Will Nimrod destroy himself because he has mutated? Tessa convices Nimrod to join the X-Men since he is a mutant. What will life be like at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters with a sentient mutant Sentinel as the school?
Radical
09-11-2005, 02:56 PM
Frank Castle studied magic to ressurect his family?
The Punisher, Sorceror Supreme? Whoa...hate to be a criminal.
Here's one: What if the Punisher was possessed by the Ghost Rider?
tangentman
09-11-2005, 03:15 PM
What if Ms. Marvel never quit the Avengers? Instead of returning to Limbo with Marcus, Carol Danvers rejects him and chooses to remain with the Avengers. How does this affect Mystique's vendetta against Carol? Will Rogue still steal Ms. Marvel's powers and psyche?
What if Storm and the New Mutants remained in Asgard? Storm cannot part with her new-found Asgardian powers, thus, forcing the X-Men and New Mutants into a permanent exile in Asgard.
What if Spider-Man and Spider-Woman joined the Avengers instead of She-Hulk and Hawkeye? In the Avengers' recruitment drive, Peter Parker and Jessica Drew accept the membership offers from Thor and Wasp. How do they change Avengers' history?
What if the Enchantress fell in love with the Black Knight? At the end of Defenders #4, the Enchantress petrified Dane Whitman with an enchanted kiss. Imagine a reality where Amora chose Dane over the Executioner--what if the Black Knight became the chosen champion of the Enchantress?
Radical
09-11-2005, 05:49 PM
[B]What if Storm and the New Mutants remained in Asgard? Storm cannot part with her new-found Asgardian powers, thus, forcing the X-Men and New Mutants into a permanent exile in Asgard.
There's a comic where that actually happened.
Bicycle-Repairman
09-12-2005, 01:11 AM
What if Howard the Duck became Galactus' herald?
When Galactus threatens to devour Duckworld, Howard agrees to become the cosmic giant's herald in exchange for the survival of his homeworld. Howard is coated in a metallic substance, imbued with the power cosmic, and granted a flying bowling ball that responds to his thoughts, becoming the Bronze Bowler!
What if Nathaniel Richards, Howard Stark, Franklin Storm, Brian Banner, Jack Murdock, T'Chaka, and Richard and Mary Parker had become super-heroes?
After inventing a time machine and retrieving advanced technology from the future, Nathaniel Richards inspires a new heroic age by becoming Mister Marvel. He is soon joined by other super-heroes. Industrialist Howard Stark designs a suit of hi-tech armor to battle the Communist menace as Ironclad. Depressed surgeon Dr. Franklin Storm seeks out the mystic Ancient One and becomes Earth's Sorceror Supreme. Physicist Brian Banner is transformed by exposure to radiation into the monstrous Inhumanoid. Prizefighter Jack Murdock dons the mask of the Red Devil to fight crime in his native Hell's Kitchen. Wakandan king T'Chaka serves as his nation's ceremonial protector, the Black Panther. Secret agents Richard and Mary Parker are recruited as field operatives for the new organization S.H.I.E.L.D. But when the time travelling Immortus arrives in the 20th century with a dire warning, Nathaniel Richards realizes his time machine has altered the intended course of history.
What if the Green Goblin was a good guy?
Norman Osborn successfully creates a gas that makes him smarter and stronger, but it does not drive him insane. Norman becomes the costumed crimefighter Green Goblin, a close friend of Spider-Man. The Goblin heroically sacrifices his life to save Gwen Stacy's father from Dr. Octopus, and is given a funeral attended by New York City's super-hero community. Norman's son Harry then becomes the new Goblin.
What if the Martians had conquered Earth in the 19th century?
The Martians from H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds succeed in conquering Earth in 1899. A century later, human slaves compete in gladiatorial combat for the entertainment of their Martian masters. Clad in a suit of battle armor, Anthony Stark is the undisputed champion, the Iron Skull. But how will he fair against a new challenger, the feral mutant known only as Logan? And will the legend of the rebel leader Steve Rogers inspire a new human uprising?
EDIT: I have changed my original post by adding more detailed plot synopses.
tangentman
09-12-2005, 02:02 AM
What if the Thing married Thundra?
What if Gwen Stacy became Number 9? When Daredevil leaves NYC following the events of "Inferno", he becomes caught in a family feud of the violent variety between an avid animal rights activist and her industrialist father when he chooses to harbor an escaped woman with amnesia and amazing regenerative powers. Over time, Daredevil comes to believe that this mystery woman might have been a woman long believed dead...
What if the New Mutants had become the X-Men? Mojo kidnaps the X-Men and reverts them to childhood. The New Mutants briefly step up to the plate as temporary "X-Men" to save their older classmates. In this reality, the X-Men remain "X-Babies" and the New Mutants must remain in their new roles. How do they handle their new responsibilities?
Frank
09-12-2005, 02:33 AM
What if Colossus was chosen to be the DarkChild instead Illyana?
Answer: He becomes Mr. Sinister. And that`s the real story, folks! :D You think the armor is his mutant powers? Naaa it`s a mystic expression just like Ilyanna and her soul sword and magic armor. Belasko used Illyanna to bring her brother to limbo, then he becomes a dark Lord himself. Since Limbo is timeless he goes back in time to Cyclops`childhood so he can have the offspring of Jean/Cyckes to manipulate times/reality so he can have his soul back. Malice is one of his experiment, an alternate reality version of his beloved Kitty(she`s immaterial like Kitty can do and has to attach herself to another being to survive).
Radical
09-13-2005, 10:46 PM
-What if Nathaniel Richards, Howard Stark, Franklin Storm, Brian Banner, Jack Murdock, T'Chaka, and Richard and Mary Parker had become super-heroes?
If Brian Banner had become a hero, maybe he wouldn't have become the abusive guy who gave Bruce a hellish childhood, and maybe Bruce wouldn't have become the Hulk (at least not the way we know).
Of course, then there's the kind of "hero" you put between quotation marks. You know what I mean, right?
Bicycle-Repairman
09-14-2005, 12:44 AM
If Brian Banner had become a hero, maybe he wouldn't have become the abusive guy who gave Bruce a hellish childhood, and maybe Bruce wouldn't have become the Hulk (at least not the way we know).
Of course, then there's the kind of "hero" you put between quotation marks. You know what I mean, right?
In my story, exposure to gamma rays would transform Brian Banner into a Hulk-like monstrosity called the Inhumanoid. Think a bigger, meaner version of the Hulk whose violent tendencies soon spiral out of control. An important part of the story would be that the Marvel heroes' parents do not make as effective super-heroes as their children. Their actions endanger the world, and Nathaniel Richards is forced to go back in time to restore the timeline he altered by becoming a super-hero.
thomas_catbiscuit
09-14-2005, 01:26 PM
What If The Red Skull ruled the world? Which brings me back to the Captain America What If.
i think this has been done in the last volume of captin america vol4 (knights issues 16 to 20 i think. like the other ides every ones put in.
Tobias March
09-14-2005, 01:34 PM
What if the Second Generation never happened: Treating us to a demented Logan travelling across the US killing innocents in the vein of The Hitcher.
jadegiant77
09-14-2005, 04:49 PM
What if The Sentry had never become the Void?
Imagine the Sentry in major Marvel events like The Kree-Skrull War, Korvac Saga, Dark Phoenix, etc.
What If Silfer Surfer battled Dark Phoenix?
Norrin sensed Jean's transformation into Dark Phoenix and called her a kindred spirit. He finds her and helps her recover her humanity. They become lovers, Jean frees him from earth, and they soar the spaceways together! Jean grows a golden phoenix skin to protect her from space.
What If...Ms. Marvel became a Pawn of the Kree?: Exposed to the Millineum Bloom, Carol Danvers' psyche intergrated with her Ms. Marvel persona; however, feeling a stronger connection with Kree-Lar than Earth, she decided to leave the Earth for deep space. Ms. Marvel eventually becomes one of the top ranking half-Kree of the entire Kree Empire. What does this mean for Earth & the Avengers?
What If...The original Spider-Woman joined the X-Men?: Xavier is not too certain about Jessica's strange DNA, but he allows her to join the X-Men regardless.
What If...Dazzler became an Avenger?: Alison Blaire has always been more concerned with her music career; however, using her mutant powers more often in battles, Dazzler reluctantly joins the Avengers. Dazzler believes she can help mutants public image as an Avenger with her fellow mutant Avengers, Beast, Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver.
What If...Jean Grey never left the X-Men?: After Xavier recruited the new X-Men, most of the original team left. But, what happens when Jean Grey decides to stay with Scott Summers & the X-Men on that fateful day?
DJ-Panic
09-14-2005, 05:52 PM
What If both Rick Jones and Bruce Banner became Hulks?
Thought that said Rick James for a minute....now THAT I'd like to see!
Alan2099
09-14-2005, 05:59 PM
Thought that said Rick James for a minute....now THAT I'd like to see!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/MikeILLER/osoiman.jpg
DJ-Panic
09-14-2005, 06:05 PM
ROFLMFAO...that's awesome!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/MikeILLER/osoiman.jpg
It's Super Freak!
DMike
09-14-2005, 06:35 PM
Well that just puts "I'm Rick James, Bitch!" in a whooole new context. :)
What If...Jean Grey never left the X-Men?: After Xavier recruited the new X-Men, most of the original team left. But, what happens when Jean Grey decides to stay with Scott Summers & the X-Men on that fateful day?
Considering she was still basically hanging around within a couple issues of the old team leaving, chances are not much changes.
DJ-Panic
09-14-2005, 06:36 PM
Rick Smash! Rick Destroy! Me Rick Bitch!
What If...Greer Nelson never became Tigra?: Greer Nelson was never injured; therefore, she never met the mysterious Cat People. On the other hand, she kept her Cat costume & identity to fight crime. Instead of being an Avenger, she would have met her other counterparts: Spider-Man, Daredevil in her adventures. However, someone else does discover the Cat People's secrets & uses them for evil. How does this affect the Cat?
Considering she was still basically hanging around within a couple issues of the old team leaving, chances are not much changes.
Jean Grey moved out of the mansion into a loft in New York City. Although she was dating Scott, Jean was not an X-Man anymore. Jean only rejoined the X-Men & moved back into the mansion after she became Phoenix. I just think the subtle decision not to leave the group would have had different results since she would have fought Count Nefaria & the Ani-Men; Marvel Girl may have been able to save Thunderbird from being killed. But I still see Jean becoming Phoenix in this reality.
Beamish
09-15-2005, 11:18 AM
What if Patsy Walker became Tigra instead of Greer?
Frank
09-15-2005, 11:25 AM
What if they both made love, beat a mad scientist that use clonage and then they would have used his researchs to start making babies and start an all female all animal Secret Society in Wundagore?
Goldenbane
09-15-2005, 11:41 AM
What If Spiderman had become Venom? (I know there was a "What if the symbiote had taken over Spiderman?" story, but it wasn't the same...in this, Spiderman merges with the suit and has his powers vastly enhanced.)
What If The Punisher had adopted Spiderman? (Uncle Ben and Aunt May happen to be in the park and pleasantly chatting with the Castle family when ALL of them see the mob and are killed. Frank survives, adopts a very ticked off Peter, and trains him to be the Punisher...who has spider powers!)
What If Dr. Doom had adopted Spiderman? (The burglar kills both Ben and May Parker...and the "kindly" Dr. Doom is there to pick up the pieces with Peter.)
BoosterBronze
09-15-2005, 01:45 PM
What if Nathaniel Richards, Howard Stark, Franklin Storm, Brian Banner, Jack Murdock, T'Chaka, and Richard and Mary Parker had become super-heroes?
After inventing a time machine and retrieving advanced technology from the future, Franklin Richards inspires a new heroic age by becoming Mister Marvel. He is soon joined by other super-heroes. Industrialist Howard Stark designs a suit of hi-tech armor to battle the Communist menace as Ironclad. Depressed surgeon Dr. Franklin Storm seeks out the mystic Ancient One and becomes Earth's Sorceror Supreme. Physicist Brian Banner is transformed by exposure to radiation into the monstrous Inhumanoid. Prizefighter Jack Murdock dons the mask of the Red Devil to fight crime in his native Hell's Kitchen. Wakandan king T'Chaka serves as his nation's ceremonial protector, the Black Panther. Secret agents Richard and Mary Parker are recruited as field operatives for the new organization S.H.I.E.L.D. But when the time travelling Immortus arrives in the 20th century with a dire warning, Nathaniel Richards realizes his time machine has altered the intended course of history.
That sounds fricking awesome. I would SO buy that. We need some artists who post here to do some drawings of those characters.
jadegiant77
09-15-2005, 02:17 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/MikeILLER/osoiman.jpg
OMG...what's wrong with you people??? :D
hulahulk
09-15-2005, 10:00 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/MikeILLER/osoiman.jpg
I realize I'm a little late with this, but I am speechless. Completely speechless. Next up: Avengers/Village People amalgamation!
DJ-Panic
09-16-2005, 07:16 AM
ah, got a new idea...
What if.....The Tick left The City to the The Avengers? :P
Beamish
09-16-2005, 09:28 AM
What if Beast and Tigra mated?
What if any "victim" of telepathy caused them to permanantly take on characteristics of their telepath?
What if Rogue permanantly took on characteristics of her "victims"?
What if Steve Rogers was Weapon X instead of Logan?
What if Hawkeye had gone completly deaf?
What if Asteroid M crashed on earth?
What if Johnny Storm had remained as Galactus' herald for at least one year?
What if Franklin Richards enrolled at Xaviers?
What if all humanoid Avengers villains were different versions of Kang?
What if the Dragon of the Moon took over Moondragon permanantly?
What if the FF built Four Freedoms Plaza on Yancy Street?
What if the Squardom Supreme had become the Avengers after Onslaught?
What if Atlantis rose to the surface?
What if Wanda's and Visions "sons" were never erased and still existed?
What if there was only one pantheon of gods (they just took different forms in different countries)?
What if Jocasta controlled Janet Van Dyne?
What if Vision was powered by ionic energy?
What if vibranium was a common material?
What if Spider-Man formed the original Avengers?
brian2322
09-16-2005, 05:26 PM
What If Jean Grey had joined the avengers: would she have become the phoenix, would Scarlet Witch have succeeded in destroying the Avengers?
Tobias March
09-16-2005, 06:25 PM
What if Spider-Man formed the original Avengers?
Now this right here is a damn good idea. Make Spider-man the Rick Jones of the MU.
What If...The X-Men Were Celebrated Heroes?: What would happen if mutants became celebrities; whereas, mutated humans were persercuted for being different?
What If...Ms. Marvel had become the leader of the Avengers?: Ms. Marvel was partially accepted into the Avengers to fulfill a status quo to have more women into the group. But what happens when Ms. Marvel becomes the Avengers chairman?
What If...Spider-Woman became a porn star?: Jessica Drew has no idea who she is. Therefore, she becomes the top porn star for her stamina & skills in bed. No one knows Jessica Drew is really the Spider-Woman. What happens when her two lives collide?
Erik Lehnsherr
09-16-2005, 11:55 PM
What If....Doom had a clean loss? Just what would his endless fanboys do to justify it? Hmmmm. :eek:
MooNDoG
09-17-2005, 12:28 AM
WHAT IF... wolverien had been bitten by the spider and not peter, and his healing stuff didnt stop the mutation?
WHAT IF... Nick Fury had a batch on BOTH EYES :eek: ?
WHAT IF... wolverien made a baby with she hulk?
WHAT IF... the vindicator killed Captin America accedentaly?
WHAT IF... some one made a biblical comic book where jesus whent around killing the sinners adn kicking ass for the big man
WHAT IF... Wolverien was taller
jade_nova
09-17-2005, 10:57 AM
What if the government kept replacing Captain America?
What If...Wolverine was really a woman trapped in a man's body?: Logan always felt different, but his healing factor makes cosmetic surgery impossible since his DNA always turns him back into a man. How will Logan become a woman? His pal Sabretooth has the answers.
What If...Gwen Stacey was bitten by the radioactive spider instead of Peter Parker?
What If...Psylocke went to Clown College?: Psylocke goes undercover for STRIKE at a super-exclusive Clown College to gain access to the teachers' subversive activities. How is the Clown College linked to the Hellfire Club? What does it hold for Psylocke?
What If...Aunt May became a true Herald of Galactus?: Galactus comes to Earth to recruit Aunt May; he transforms her into the Golden Oldie. With her newfound powers, she confronts the Skrulls, Kree, Terrax, & the Silver Surfer. As the Golden Oldie, will Aunt May miss her life on Earth? Not much, no.
Artemis1
09-17-2005, 11:15 AM
What If:
Spiderman died?
Aunt May died?
Uncle Ben never died?
Ben Rielly was not Pete's clone, but his brother?
Iron Man had a tin suit?
Hulk was red instead of green?
Mr. Nobody
09-17-2005, 02:03 PM
What if.....The Cosmic Storm gave Reed Richards the awesome power to make peoples head spotaniously explode?
What if......All Peter Parker got from the radioactive Spider bite was lukemia?
What if......The Punisher's aim just wasn't very good?
What if......Thor would just talk like a normal bloody person?
What if.......Dr. Doom and Mr. Fantastic just gave up already and admited their deep love for one another?
What if.......It was discovered Captain America had attended a couple of Communist rally meetings in his youth?
What if......Dr. Doom was too depressed to do anything but lay around and watch TV all day?
What if.......The Hulk got to eat all the beans he wanted?
brian2322
09-19-2005, 05:05 PM
what if the captain universe powers permantely bonded with a teenager
What If...the Marvel Offices became the new secret headquarters of the Avengers?
What If...Aunt May gained the powers of Thor?
What If...Spider-Man became a villain?
What If...Chthon had successfully invaded Earth's dimension?
What If...Infinity became Eternity's dominant aspect?
What If...Nova became Galactus?
What If...The Invisible Woman had married Dr. Doom?
What If...Shadowcat had become a pawn of the Hand?
What If...Wolverine did not join the X-Men?
What If...Storm was recruited to the Avengers?
jadegiant77
09-27-2005, 02:42 PM
What If Scarlet Witch had joined the X-Men?
Just imagine Jean AND Wanda having a freak out at the same time...Dark Phoenix vs. Dark Wanda...
Crimson
09-27-2005, 02:45 PM
W
WHAT IF... some one made a biblical comic book where jesus whent around killing the sinners adn kicking ass for the big man
Wouldn't that be "Battle Pope" by Kirkman?
What If...The Super Skrull Became Champion of Earth?: To infiltrate human culture, the Super Skrull--given the powers of the Fantastic Four--becomes a spy within Nasa's space program. However, in time, he saves Carol Danvers from the Kree, Yon-Rogg's psyche magnatron & slowly develops feelings for humans. In a different disguise, the Super Skrull becomes...Captain Marvel! How will the Skrull throneworld react to the Super Skrull's betrayal?
o1pickleboy
11-25-2005, 12:12 PM
What If?
The Inhumans ruled the earth?- In this reality the inhumans conquered earth inside of hiding from it.
All the eternals went into space instead of just Mentors followers?
Thing had never returned to the FF?- Ben never forgives Reed for him changing into the Thing.
The Fantastic Four recieve all 4 powers?- Imigine each one of them able to turn invisible, stretch, Flame on, and been super strong.
The orginial X-Men had died in Giant Size X-Men 1? On this earth Xavier discovers how to defeat the living island before Scott is sent to find more mutants. Only the X-Men fail to get off the island in time. Killed them all. How will this world fair without(Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel, Ice Man, Polaris, and Havok.)
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11-25-2005, 12:32 PM
The orginial X-Men had died in Giant Size X-Men 1? On this earth Xavier discovers how to defeat the living island before Scott is sent to find more mutants. Only the X-Men fail to get off the island in time. Killed them all. How will this world fair without(Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel, Ice Man, Polaris, and Havok.)http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/95078701518.9.GIF
Not exactly the same, but close.
Phoney Bone
11-25-2005, 04:15 PM
What If... Baron Helmut Zemo had succeeded in "Under Seige"?
What If... Loki had killed Thor at the end of "Acts of Vengence"?
What If... Black Bolt had been "mad" instead of Maximus?
What If... Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver had never left the Brotherhood?
What If... Hulk had stayed in Jarella's dimension?
What If...Loki Had Secretly Joined the Avengers?: Loki, in the guise of Thor, becomes a founding member of the Avengers. However, due to Loki's magickal influence, the Avengers are not Earths Mightiest Heroes, but Earth's Mightiest Terrorists! What is the fate of Iron Man, Wasp, Giant Man, & the Hulk? Worse, what happened to the real Thor?
stealthwise
11-25-2005, 05:13 PM
What if... The Hulk had explosive diarrhea?
DOOM2099
11-25-2005, 05:31 PM
What if... we got to watch what the Watcher watches after midnight?
What if... Rob Liefeld was still alive? Wait. Let me get right on that.
Young Avenger
11-25-2005, 05:44 PM
What if...Cyclops were the leader of the Avengers?
What if...Spider-Man was a mutant?
o1pickleboy
11-25-2005, 08:25 PM
What If
The silver surfer never found earth- On this world the Watcher ploy to hide earth from the surfer suceeds. What would happen the SS would he remain herald of Galactus? How would earth fair, without the Surfer as one of it hero?
The X-Men had fought Galactus- On this earth the Watcher warns Xavier of the coming of Galactus instead of the FF. Would the X-Men be able to save earth? Would they be able to appeal to the humanity of the surfer?
Johny Storm became the Thing- The cosmic rays made Johny become thing and Ben turn into the Human Torch. Would Sue forgive Reed for turning her brother into a monster? Would Johny?
Herald of Asgard
11-25-2005, 09:22 PM
What If: Thor had become a Herald of Galactus?
When Galactus threatens Asgard, after the nearly won fight against the Devourer of Worlds, the Odinson offers himself in exchange for mercy on his realm.
o1pickleboy
12-23-2005, 02:09 AM
What If...Bucky had been frozen in the ice instead of cap.
On this earth Bucky Barnes get stuck in suspended animation and cap dies. The Avengers find him and thaw him out. To help him adjust Rick Jones befriends him and help him hunt down Zemo. The rest of the Avenger untrusting of Bucky follow him and aid him in battle with Zemo. With the death of zemo. The distrust between Bucky and the Avengers increases to the point. They disband instead of choosing him to lead the new recuits.
Bucky and Rick Jones upset at the Avenger form a new team of heros. Composed of young heros. Human Torch, Ice Man, Spider Man, with Bucky leading and Rick as co leader. As the young heros battle many menaces insteed of the Avengers. The older heros confront the young heros and battle. With the outcome being young heros proving their worth and that they are a team.
Lord_Archive
12-25-2005, 11:34 AM
What if Apocalypse became an X-man?
What if Ezekial was Peter's father?
What if Black Cat had inherited the Venom symbiote and both refused to accept Spider-man's rejection?
JuggernautRM
12-25-2005, 02:08 PM
What if Peter parker didn't use his powers to become spiderman but a assassin for SHEILD.
After finding out his powers, Parker goes home to find that Uncle Ben and Aunt May had died, Parker joins the military and gets so good he joins shield.
Alan2099
12-25-2005, 04:44 PM
What if the Beyonder had chosen the Ultimate Universe for his Secret Wars?
Jake V
12-25-2005, 05:05 PM
What if the Beyonder had chosen the Ultimate Universe for his Secret Wars?
He'd probably be pretty bummed out, cuz the Ultimate universe wasn't around in the 80's. :)
jeffb1982
12-25-2005, 07:01 PM
What If: Thor had become a Herald of Galactus?
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Being done this year
Erik Lehnsherr
12-26-2005, 01:06 PM
What If Thanos' defeats hadn't been retconned?
What If...Mystique formed the X-Men?: Raven Darkholme secretly forms the X-Men to battle mutant prejudice within the Pentagon as their secret headquarters. With the Blob, Pyro, Destiny, Avalanche, Rogue, Stonewall, Super Sabre, & Crimson Commando by her side, her team of mutants become welcome heroes to battle Professor Xavier's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Havok, Polaris, Angel, & Iceman...
Wannabe
12-26-2005, 02:03 PM
I always thought that a good idea would be if Wolverine had gotten the
phoenix force instead of Jean.
I always thought that a good idea would be if Wolverine had gotten the
phoenix force instead of Jean.
Wolverine would not have become Phoenix. The X-Men would have perished & he would have died had he piloted the shuttle.
brian2322
12-26-2005, 07:19 PM
What if Spiderman had a son? He later becomes spiderman, forms a sort of young avengers with franklin and valeria richards, the future son of electro, a new daredevil and blackcat, and some new characters. But he still is a solo hero as wel. I dont really like the way Spidergirl is written, dont have a problem with the fact she a girl.
o1pickleboy
12-26-2005, 10:14 PM
What If...The X-Men had been formed in the 40's. On this earth Charles Xavier was born decades before his time. Xavier was a normal child and teenager until he discovered he was a mutant. After learning he was a mutant. Xavier started traveling the world and adventuring thoughout the 1930's. Even volunteering for the british army in 1938. Injuried in battle in 1939. Xavier retired from adventuring and returned home.
When he returned home, he learn of the existed of two more mutants Namor the Sub Marriner, and Toro the sidekick of Human Torch. Realizing thou his experiance in the war. That a future conflict between human and mutant would happen. Xavier realized that coexistence was the only way. Believing that if mutants were to help win the war against Hitler. A giant step towards his dream would be achieved.
Recuiting both Toro and Namor, Xavier sets out to find other mutants. He finds Logan, Mystique, and Destiny. Together they formed the X-Men
Beamish
12-27-2005, 10:07 AM
What if?...
Scarlet Witch's madness had killed Quicksilver during her initial onslaught in Disassembled?
Hellcat became Dr. Strange's new pupil?
Any member of the FF had been a Skrull the entire time?
Tigra and Werewolf By Night (or Man-Wolf) mated?
Hawkeye had a fling with Hank Pym instead of Wasp?
Iceman had total control over external forms of ice, like glaciers?
Black Panther and Wakanda took control over all African nations?
Psylocke and She-Hulk revealed that the carpet matched the drapes?
Yelena Belova was really Natasha Romanoff and Nick Fury's daughter?
Captain America immediatly matured to his true age?
Silver Surfer traded in for a razer scooter?
Magneto's original Brotherhood were disguised (like the Thunderbolts) as good guys, becoming "The Avengers" first?
Sub-Mariner became a shill for Speedo?
Jarvis was a powerful mutant all along?
4 scientists, like Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Hank Pym and Hank McCoy went up in the rocket instead of the traditional FF?
Kitty Pride's phasing form was the normal one and she had to become tangible?
Hank Pym had his brain put in Ultron in an attemt to control him?
Swarm was comprised of cockroaches instead of bees?
Gamma radiation exposure mutated everyone Hulk and She-Hulk came in contact with?
Spider-Man's testicles transformed into web sacks?
Magic/the supernatural never existed - it was all mutant activity (like Dracula wasn't supernatural, he was just a mutant)?
Red State Cap
12-27-2005, 11:11 AM
What if Brian Bendis could write a tight storyline?
RSC
spidervenom
01-02-2006, 01:23 PM
Im sure most of you are aware of the what if comics so just out of curiosity what is your what if ideas. ok let me start
What if wolverine became the hulk
what if the avengers never dissasembled
what if peter parker became venom
what if the clone saga never happened
what if steve rogers worked for the nazis
bjtrdff
01-02-2006, 01:24 PM
Nazi Steve Rogers = Superman Red Son
stillanerd
01-02-2006, 01:28 PM
What if Uncle Ben AND Aunt May were both killed by the burglar?
spidervenom
01-02-2006, 01:31 PM
now thats an interesting one
spidervenom
01-02-2006, 04:03 PM
heres some more
what if onslaught defeated the marvel heroes
what if xavier was evil
what if dr doom became galactus
what if shield controlled the entire us goverment
Kinbote
01-02-2006, 08:39 PM
Here's a few stories that I've always wanted to see. Being a collector of What if myself, I've had some good ideas here and there. Though it does get alittle tough to think of ones that havn't been done already in some way or another.
What if Black Bolt could speak? (they should just do this one already. I think some What if? fans are foaming at the mouth for an official issue about what if he could speak :P)
What if the Beyonder lived? (born from his mama machine as the most omnipotent human ever. I've always wondered what he would have done next if Molecule Man didn't kill him before being born. He could have been the most powerful superhero ever, or the most dangerous I guess)
What if the Silver Surfer killed Galactus? (by using the Infinity Gaunlet, the death of Galactus unleases the "gift" to the universe that he predicted would happen if he died)
What if Spiderman never hid his identity? (a whole new Spiderman from the start, his costume would be different and would more casually reveal his face. Everyone knows and says, "Hey, there goes Peter Parker, the Spiderman!" Plus he would swing around in normal clothes to go to the store and stuff while sticking to walls, but does that mean the possible demise that his alternate self feared?)
What if the Fantastic Four became Hulks? (they save Banner from the gamma bomb and each become a Hulk. I'm thinking along with thier current powers too and they control the Hulk power at will. The Thing would be a green rock monster with a more increased rage strength, imagine a 15 ft tall super green Thing, maybe a twist is that he can control it now? Plus a fire Hulk, invisible force field weilding she Hulk, and a stretch Hulk. Hehe, I remember my stretch armstrong Hulk.)
Yea, I'd love to see those. :)
stillanerd
01-03-2006, 01:11 AM
What if the Fantastic Four became Heralds of Galactus?
What if Jean Grey had married Wolverine instead of Cyclops?
What if Bruce Banner's first transformation into the Hulk had been permanent?
What if the power of Thor resided in Captain America?
What if Charles Xavier and Magneto both founded the X-Men?
What if Flash Thompson had become Venom?
Goldenbane
01-03-2006, 11:35 AM
(I posted this on Rumbles, but maybe it'd be better off here...)
During World War 2, Captain America and Bucky are on their way to their latest assignment...when a sniper manages to hit and kill Bucky! Vengence driven, Cap attacks the Nazis' and manages to free Eric Lesher and his parents!
Feeling Bucky has been justly avenged, Captain America takes the young, awed, and inspired Eric as his new partner.
During the war, Magneto/Bucky becomes as immensely popular as his mentor...and he aids Cap in missions with his budding...though currently minor..magnetic powers. As fate would have it, Mags and Cap are thrust into the same position as Bucky and Cap...with the rocket exploding and sending Cap into suspended animation...but leaving Magneto/Bucky alive to carry on.
Even after the war, Magneto retains his immense popularity, and no one cares about him being a mutant or not. How will the Marvel Universe be different? What happens when Captain America returns? Would mutants find greater acceptance seeing as how one of them helped win World War 2 and was seen as a huge hero?
generalbradicus
01-03-2006, 11:39 AM
Actually it wasn't his parents but his family that was captured. your thinking of the movie.
Hoopah
01-03-2006, 12:50 PM
what if...captain america died during avengers dissassembled
Tobias March
01-03-2006, 01:01 PM
What If.....the Atlanteans were a race of under-water magicians? I just like the idea of a sinister blue skinnned Namorita joining the Avengers in the Scarlet Witch role. It could be all kinds of Lovecraftian weirdness.
What If.....Marvel time didn't exist. WWII heroes aged and died. Magneto and Charles Xavier entered the 80's in their late 50's/early sixties. The Avengers and the younger X-Men formed in the 60's and by the year 2000 had been replaced by an entirely new generation....
What If.....Captain America was never frozen, but vampirised during a mission. The serum initially appears to give him immunity, but eventually overwhelms him. Attempts to recreate a synthesize a serum from him and create more super soldiers only succeeds in creating Blade, Hannibal King and Deacon Frost.
What If.....Vision was a girl :p
Iron Syndicate
01-03-2006, 01:27 PM
What If....
Peter had stopped the burglar?
Elektra killed Bullseye (instead of the other way around)?
Doom married Valeria?
and the big one....
Wolverine only appeared in ONE title a month?
DMike
01-03-2006, 04:35 PM
There was a great idea in the Rumbles Board of What If... Magneto was rescued from Auschwitz by Captain America during WW2 and became the new Bucky. Eric would have been the right age for it, and lord knows how that would have affected human-mutant relations in the present day.
Edward J Cunningham
01-03-2006, 04:42 PM
What if Marvel's Sgt. Fury was the REAL Sgt. Fury---Dr. Nino Greasemanelli?
Eddie Cunningham
Edward J Cunningham
01-03-2006, 04:47 PM
What if Reed Richards, Ben Grimm, Susan and Johnny Storm not only became the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse as well as the Fantastic Four, but they refused to leave Notre Dame after graduation? :D
Eddie Cunningham
What If.....the Atlanteans were a race of under-water magicians? I just like the idea of a sinister blue skinnned Namorita joining the Avengers in the Scarlet Witch role. It could be all kinds of Lovecraftian weirdness.
The Atlanteans did have powerful magicians before the island sunk into the ocean. The pre-cataclysmic Atlanteans used the Darkhold to transform their slaves into vampires. Eventually, the vampires overpowered the Atlanteans. Varnae was lord of all vampires until he was replaced by Dracula...
What If.....Vision was a girl :p
See Ultimate Vision for the details...
jadegiant77
01-03-2006, 05:10 PM
I posted these before, but I thought I'd give the stories behind them this time around:
What If the Beyonder joined the Avengers?
Wasp asked the one from Beyond to join: What if he took her up on her offer? I see him using that machine from Secret Wars II #9 to depower himself slighty(or become a human with cosmic powers). He and Dazzler hook up, and Ali also joins the Avengers. Doom, meanwhile , takes the power Beyonder sacrificed and goes on to take it all. He conquers the earth and kills most of its heroes: it's up to Beyonder to regain his powers at all costs and avenge his fallen comrades.
What If the heroes were villains and vice versa?
Self explanatory. Peter Parker is the villaious Arachnid, while Otto Octavious is the heroic umm...Mr. Octopus?The Red Skull battles a fascist Captain America. The Brotherhood against the evil X-Men, Doom battes the evil Four, etc.
What If the Hulk had remained an Avenger?
Hulk doesn't walk away from the team, and stays with them thru every Avengers era, including Cap's Kooky Quartet. Bruce winds up falling for Wanda, and she uses her magic to fuse the separate halves of his nature t ogether. During the Dissasembled Crisis, can Bruce save his beloved from going down a dark path?
What If All five of the original X-men had become Apocalypse's Horsemen?
X-Factor is defeated and becomes Apocalypse's new Horsemen. Jean and Madelyne are fused into a new Phoenix, Beast becomes Pestilence, Angel becomes a different type of Death(black wings, a robe,),etc.
What If Sue Richards was The Thing?
All the FF gain each other's powers(Reed is the Invisible Man, Ben the Torch, Johnny Rubber Man), leaving Sue the power of the Thing. Lacking Ben's mental block, she can shift back and forth between both forms(although she remains looking like the original thing, never becoming rocky). All her repressed anger and sensuality come to the fore, ala She Hulk. She is drawn to the more agressive Ben Grimm rather than the soft spoken Reed Richards, and the two marry. However she has affairs with other men(including Reed) that lead to a superhero intervention. Angered, she leaves the team and sides with Doom...
What If the alien symbiote had possessed Mary Jane instead of Eddie Brock?
The alien symbiote, driven insane by Pete's rejection, looks for the perfect vessel for revenge. It passes up Brock and settles on Spidey's new wife, Mary Jane. It taunts Peter, telling him the only way he can stop it is to kill his own wife!
What If both Rick Jones and Bruce Banner became Hulks
Both Bruce and Rick are caught in the gamma blast and become the Grey(Bruce) and Green(Rick) Hulk, respectively. Both are recruited by SHIELD and used for black-ops work, assassinations, wars, etc.
What If Rick Jones kept the powers given to him by the Beyonder?
In an issue of ROM, Beyonder temporarily gave Rick Hulk-like powers, but he gave them up at the end. In this reality, he keeps them and becomes an adored, Superman-type hero.
What If Ultron Mark Twelve(the one with human emotions) had lived?
Mark Twelve reshapes his body into a more humanoid figure and joins the WCA
along with his father Hank Pym, who(as he was powerless at the time) fashions an Iron Man based armor for himself and becomes Ant-Man once more.
What If Frank Castle and his wife died, but his children didn't?
Lisa Barbara follows in her father's footsteps and becomes the Punisher, her brother, Frank Jr. becomes a cop. Eventually, the two come face to face. Will the siblings die at each oter's hands?
What is Betty Ross became the Hulk?
Worried about Bruce,Betty goes out onto the bomb site, pushes both him and Rick into the lead lined trench, and takes the full brunt of the gamma bomb herself. I see this as a sort of wonder woman type story, with the Gamma powered Betty(or Gammazon) always rescuing the vaguely effeminite Banner from danger at every turn.
jadegiant77
01-03-2006, 05:32 PM
What if Reed Richards, Ben Grimm, Susan and Johnny Storm not only became the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse as well as the Fantastic Four, but they refused to leave Notre Dame after graduation? :D
Eddie Cunningham
Ohhh.. I get it... :)
Kirayoshi
01-04-2006, 01:01 AM
What if the Beyonder had chosen the Ultimate Universe for his Secret Wars?
Kitty: "So, anything happen while you were in outerspace?"
Piotr: "There was another woman, Kitty. We fell in love."
Kitty: "Oh. Uh, aren't you gay?"
Alan2099
01-04-2006, 10:48 AM
What if Wolverine had joined the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants?
Think back to their first year on the job. The X-men are still in the blue/black and yellow outfits and Magento shows up with Wolverine as a team member.
What if the Fantastic Four stopped Apocalypse? The Fantastic Four had been sent back in time to the era of King Tut, yet they went back to theri own time just prior to En Saba Nur making his first major attack. What if they had waited a bit longer and been around to stop Apocalypse?
What if Spider-girl had been stranded in the past? For a brief time, Spider-girl went back and met Spider-man when he was just starting out his career as a super hero. What if she couldn't get back and got stuck in a time when she's about the same age as her dad?
What if Deadpool joined the Avengers? Deadpool showed up claiming to be an Avenger when he breifly possessed the powers of Thor. What would have happened if the team gave him a chance?
MythicBrawn
01-04-2006, 10:56 AM
What If...
"No More Mutants" actually meant no more mutants. Not 198, not mutants getting their powers back after a time. It means not a single mutant in the entire Marvel Universe. Marvel will have to fall back on accidents and gamma/cosmic rays to activate the metahuman gene.
The USA decided to continue with their invasion of Wakanda in the Black Panther.
Marvel actually did something that changed the status quo of their universe.
What If...Quicksilver & the Scarlet Witch joined the X-Men?: Professor Xavier finds the Scarlet Witch running away from a mob when her mutant powers had manifested. He offers Wanda Maximoff & her brother, Pietro, membership of the X-Men. Together they join Marvel Girl, Beast, Angel, Iceman, & Cyclops as the original X-Men!
Kirayoshi
01-04-2006, 11:24 AM
What If--Phil Sheldon had saved Gwen Stacy from the Green Goblin? In Marvels, Phil Sheldon was interviewing Gwen Stacy about her father's death from falling debris as the result of a battle between Spider-Man and Doctor Octopus. He was going to meet with her when she promised to hand him her father's journal, but the Green Goblin beat him there, leading to the tragic moment where GG killed Gwen.
But what if Phil had arrived a minute sooner, distracting GG long enough for Spider-Man to arrive, preventing Gwen's abduction and murder. After defeating GG and sending him to jail, Spider-Man, in gratitude, asks Phil how he can repay him. Phil answers, "Meet me at police HQ tomorrow. The police don't consider you a suspect in Capt. Stacy's murder, but do want to question you. They know Doc Ock is the culprit, but they need your testimony to put him away." Spider-Man reluctantly agrees, and as a result builds a new positive relationship with the police. Meanwhile, Gwen hands her father's journals to Phil, who reads them. In the last entry, Capt. Stacy wrote down that he had discovered that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. Thus, Phil Sheldon is given a dilemma; does he protect the secret of a hero he admires, or write the story that will make his career--and destroy Spider-Man's life?
What if--Kitty Pryde had joined the All-New All-Different X-Men? Kitty was born about five years earlier is born and is recruited by Professor X at the same time as Storm, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, Thunderbird and Banshee, to rescue the original X-Men from the sentient island Krakoa. How would her relationships with the X-Men have changed if she and her teammates were on equal footing? How would her romance with Piotr have gone down if their age difference were measured in months instead of years? And what would happen if Kitty, not Jean, were sitting in the cockpit of the Space Shuttle after their battle with Stephen Lang's Sentinels? In other words, What if--Kitty Pryde had become the Phoenix?
Lanowar
01-04-2006, 05:31 PM
What If Loki was Deadpool's REAL dad!
Deadpool finds out that Loki was'nt lying and he really is the son of a trickster god? (mainly comedy issue)
What if Apocalypse served Kang?
Kang recruits the young En Sabah Nur to his cause and claims the technology that creates Apocalypse as his own thus gaining ultimate power until an upstart En Sabah Nur betrays him and joins the X-Men to defeat his tyrant master!
What If Spider-Woman and Spider-Man had an affair?
During the New Avengers Break-out Peter Parker is'nt saved by Captain America but Jessica Drew and the two find themselves in a life and death situation. There she admits that as Spider-Woman she's had an sort of on off attraction to him. From then the two have an affair resulting in a broken hearted Mary Jane revealing to everyone that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Only to be killed by several supervillians when they figure out she must be his ex-wife.
What If Morlun Came For Jessica Drew?
This time Morlun did'nt give into his feelings of revenge instead he deceided to build up his power by killing an simlar totem (or what he assumes is) totem based person. Jessica Drew who just made her comeback fits the bill perfectly resulting in Morlun attack Drew only to find he has to get through Wolverine first. In the carnage Morlun feeds off Wolverine instead and is reduced to a feral state and ends up being captured by SHIELD agents.
What If Morlun Battled The New Avengers?
In a simlar vein to "What if the Avengers battled cosmic carnage" during Spidey's battle with Morlun the New avengers appear to back up there team mate in the chaos Morlun breaks Captain America, feeds of Spider-Woman nearly kills Luke Cage before the Sentry appears and attempts to throw him into space only to have the vampire start to feed him and steal his powers. To stop Morlun ever returning he throws himself into the sun just how silver surfer did with carnage.
sirgod
01-05-2006, 08:52 AM
Well I always have strange dreams, And last night was no exception. I dreamnt a what IF...
Cyclops was blinded as a boy. He still had his optic blast's, But without extra sensory powers, and Line of site to help direct them, He has a harder time Learning to deal with his Mutent ability.
Stephen
JonnyFreeze
01-06-2006, 05:01 AM
What If Hulk Took Steroids
Erik Lehnsherr
01-06-2006, 09:31 AM
There was a great idea in the Rumbles Board of What If... Magneto was rescued from Auschwitz by Captain America during WW2 and became the new Bucky. Eric would have been the right age for it, and lord knows how that would have affected human-mutant relations in the present day.
Yeah I remember that one. Excellent idea. :cool:
Ogrebear
04-28-2006, 08:25 AM
What If.... Hulk had remained the 'Professor'?
Bruce and Doc Samson finally merged all of the personalities into the 'Professor' Hulk- a super strong, 7', green powerhouse with Bruce's intellect but a little of the Grey's scarcam and cunning. However the Professor was a fake, a new idealized Hulk, but What if the Professor had been the real, true personality? how does this effect Hulks later history?
What If......Beast did not leave the Avengers?
Hank McCoy never forms the Defenders and stays with the Avengers; how is his history effected? what happens with Onslaught or the Legacy Virus?
What If.....Captain America had remained a Werewolf?
After defeating Dredmund Druid Captain America finds he remains a werewolf even after being given the 'cure' - the super solider formula has mutated and hes now stuck as CapWolf!
What If......Spider-Man had remained Spider-Hulk?linky (http://underworld.fortunecity.com/blood/201/marvel/spiderhulk.html#)
The thingy to cure Peter is destroyed before he can change back; hes now stuck with the curse of the Hulk! Does Peter tell Mary Jane? Can he keep his temper when Jonah goes off on one about Spidey?
What If.....Superheroes had stayed around post WW2?
The American Govt puts someone else in the Captain America costume; Namor and the Invaders all remain active. Xavier, Magneto, Logan etc are all around. In 50's US a new team called the Avengers is formed to protect the nation aganst the the Commies....what else changes?
What If.....Thunderbird did not die?
The hot headed Warrior gets off the plane when ordered and does not die! He still does not fit into the X-Men but sticks around... what happens to X-Men history? Esp when the New Mutants come along, what about his brother?
What If..... Aunt May had known from the start?
Aunt May is no fool, she knows Peter is up to something and uncovers his secret as Spider-Man! Keeping the secret from him she writes letters/campigns to undermine the Bugles campign.....eventually she confronts Jonah about Spidey and ends up falling for him!
What if.....She-Hulk had Juggernauts child?
The one night stand goes wrong and Cyttorak ensures that She-Hulk will carry the new heir to his power to term! How do Cain and Jennifer react? What will it be like raising their child? What what happens when the new Avatar of Might grows up?
What if.....Rhino kept most of his genius intellect?
Rhino gained super genius intelligence but lost it again (willingly) but what if he had kept most of it? Spider-Mans long term foe is now a reformed man! A Hero! ...... or is he??
What if......Doc Doom was a Hero!
Been done, but lets see this classic updated! Doom and Richards work together and free Dooms Mom while still at college, in return Doom flys with Richards, Grimm and Susan on that fateful flight and gains powers along with the others....the FF is even his idea! A jealous Johnny Storm can only watch from the sidelines...... does his madness turn to villany?
Faded
04-28-2006, 12:17 PM
What If...Professor X and Magneto never existed?
Not sure if this has been done before, but I think it'd be interesting how the mutant populace would be divided, who would be leading who, and if anyone could ever fill their shoes in an alternate reality.
What If...Billy Kaplan and Tommy Shepherd were raised by Wanda?
The 'twins' of the Scarlet Witch have lived totally separate lives until now. They were raised by totally different parents, in totally different communities.
How would they be if Wanda herself raised the kids?
Shellhead
04-28-2006, 12:52 PM
What If? was a great concept for a series, but most issues should have been titled Who Dies?
Expletive Deleted
04-28-2006, 01:10 PM
What If? was a great concept for a series, but most issues should have been titled Who Dies?And the rest should've been called Return To Status Quo.
roundman
04-28-2006, 02:24 PM
I haven't read through the thread, but I've had an idea that I thought would make a great What If?
What if Doctor Doom became the Juggernaut?
Doctor Doom, being both a scholar and a man of magic, must have heard of Cyttorak during his studies. What if Doctor Doom went searching for Cyttorak's temple, knowing that it held great magical powers inside. Could you imagine the scientific and magical power of Doctor Doom being augmented by the unstoppable might of the Juggernaut? Who could have taken him down? He would been a figure with power on the cosmic level, probably able to rival even Thanos.
Gargus
04-28-2006, 02:42 PM
What if what if was still worth buying?
Not sure how to title it but, what if truth and justice were considered bad by society and the bad guys had the heros role and the good guys the hated ones?
Haunt
04-28-2006, 03:03 PM
WhatIF Hank Pym hadn't jackslapped his wife?
Zombienorthstar
04-28-2006, 03:13 PM
What If...Jean Greys telepathy had never been blocked as a child?
What If...Namortia was Queen of Atlantis?
What If...Tony Stark had never been injured with shrapnel?
What If...Lyja the skrull had never been discovered in her replacing Alicia Masters?
What If...Steve Rogers had been killed by the super soldier serum?
What If...Wolverine had never been captured by Weapon X?
GreenHornet
04-28-2006, 03:19 PM
What if the Taskmaster's power was only in cooking? He only was able to "copy" peoples' cooking styles.
What if Nova, The Comet, Cannonball and others who "lose" their legs when they fly all formed a team called " The don't need pants when we fly superfast Team"
What if someone could draw Namor with a smile and singing a verse from "Under the sea" that would make my day ( uh also with pants please)
CMBMOOL
04-28-2006, 05:12 PM
What if the Wasp holds Hawkeye's child during their affair/after his death ?
What if the Black Cat holds Spider-man's Child during their "relationship" ?
To both "one night stands" can only mean so many things now a days. :evilsmile
What if Iron man died during the Viateam war ?
NO MORE AVENGERS mansion!!!
What if Crystal married Johnny Storm instead of Quicksilver ?
or What if Luna, Crystal's child, was really Johnny's daughter ?
What if the Thing married Alica Masters ?
What if Lyla Razorfist stayed with the Fantastic Four after they return from the Heroes Reborn earth ?
What if Bruce Banner's child lived within Betty Ross-Banner ?
What if Dr. Strange had die at the hands of Baron Mordo during the first fight ?
What if the HULK destroyed the Marvel Universe?
Hey if the Punisher can do it so can he. :evilsmile
What if the HULK was never meant to be, in other words, What if the HULK wasn't created at all?
What if Cable didn't affect Apocolypse with the T-O virus ?
What if Apocolypse affected Cyclops with the T-O virus instead of Nathan Summers ?
What if Shadowcat Hold Colossus' baby?
Hey it could happen anytime now! :rolleyes:
What if the Runaways gone their seperate ways and were mentors to the major Marvel Heroes ?
What if Antman didn't die during disembbled but Hank Prym did ?
What if Captain America was made in the DC Universe on Earth-2 ? :eek:
Edward J Cunningham
04-28-2006, 05:35 PM
What if Ron Jeremy became the ultimate mutant and destroyed the Marvel Universe?
What if Marvel's Sgt. Fury was the REAL Sgt. Fury---Dr. Nino Greasemanelli?
Edward J Cunningham
04-28-2006, 05:39 PM
What if Sue decided to keep the "peekaboo" uniform after breaking free of Malice's influence---and started a trend amongst superheroines?
roundman
04-28-2006, 05:42 PM
* What if Wolverine led Alpha Flight? During a battle between The X-Men and Alpha Flight, the dimunitive mutant stops the fight and agrees to go back to Canada, as seen in "Uncanny X-Men 121." However, in this reality Logan stays and becomes the leader of the Canadian superhero team. Now, Wolverine, Vindicator, Snowbird, Shaman, Northstar, Aurora, Marina and Sasquatch emerge as the premier superhero team in the world -- and eventually go into battle with Count Nefaria with Canada hanging in the balance.
This has already been done. See What If? Vol. 2 #59. Wolvering actually fights Annihilus and wins! (laughable when you consider that Annihilus is the main universal threat in Annihilation)
roundman
04-28-2006, 05:49 PM
What If...The X-Men Were Celebrated Heroes?: What would happen if mutants became celebrities; whereas, mutated humans were persercuted for being different?
This happened (sort of) in:
What If? Vol. 2, #77: What if Legion killed Magneto.
In this, mutants aren't really feared because Magneto never started his attack against humanity. The X-Men are celebrities rather than super heroes.
DoubleShot
04-28-2006, 05:55 PM
What If...Aunt May became a true Herald of Galactus?: Galactus comes to Earth to recruit Aunt May; he transforms her into the Golden Oldie. With her newfound powers, she confronts the Skrulls, Kree, Terrax, & the Silver Surfer. As the Golden Oldie, will Aunt May miss her life on Earth? Not much, no.
Ah, I remember that one. Wasn't that an assistant editor's month issue?
What if...
Magneto had never been in a concentration camp?
Magda had lived?
Doctor Doom ruled the world?
the Pitt (as in the New Universe storyline) happened in the Marvel U?
the X-Men never got cured from being infected by the Brood?