British woman marries dolphin

[Samurai]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3191923,00.html

Unusual wedding: British woman marries her beloved dolphin in Eilat ceremony
Joe Kot


Till death do us part? An unusual wedding ceremony was held in the southern resort town of Eilat on Wednesday, as Sharon Tendler, a 41-years-old Jewish millionaire from London married her beloved Cindy, a 35-years-old dolphin, Israel's leading newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth reported Thursday.


The groom, a resident of the Eilat dolphin reef, met Tendler 15 years ago, when she first visited the resort. The British rock concert producer took a liking to the dolphin and has made a habit of traveling to Eilat two or three times a year and spending time with her underwater sweetheart.


"The peace and tranquility underwater, and his love, would calm me down," the excited bride said after the wedding.


After a years-long romance, Tendler decided to embark on the highly unusual path of tying the knot with her beloved dolphin. Last week, she approached Cindy's trainer Maya Zilber with the extraordinary request.


Zilber accepted the challenge and "talked the idea over with the fellow," who apparently consented.


'I'm not a pervert'


And so on Wednesday afternoon, the thrilled bride, wearing a white dress, walked down the dock before hundreds of astounded visitors and kneeled down before her groom, who was waiting in the water.


Cindy, escorted by his fellow best-men dolphins, swam over to Tendler and she hugged him, whispered sweet nothings in his ear, and kissed him in front of the cheering crowd.


After the ceremony was sealed with some mackerels, Tendler was tossed into the water by her friends so that she could swim with her new husband.


"I'm the happiest girl on earth," the bride said as she chocked back tears of emotion. "I made a dream come true, and I am not a pervert," she stressed.


Tendler said she and her newly wed husband will probably spend their wedding night bowling.


"But what kind of children would they have?" one of the children in the crowd asked his father.
Who are we to stand in the way of such love? Surely we in the US need to recognize such marriages by redefining it to say "Any 2 mammals who love each other"... :eek: :rolleyes:

[Nick Soapdish]

Who are we to stand in the way of such love? Surely we in the US need to recognize such marriages by redefining it to say "Any 2 mammals who love each other"... :eek: :rolleyes:

They're going bowling? :confused:

I'm a bit curious about the source. YNet credits Yedioth Ahronoth with the story, but according to their website, they are actually Yedioth Ahronoth's English website. Never heard of the newspaper before, but I'd like to see some corroboration from a news source that I have heard of (and is at least moderately trustworthy).

[Sanagi]

It would've been a cute news story if not for the constant "Have I mentioned I'm not a pervert?" stuff.

[Nick Soapdish]

Well, one of the mentions was a subject header that lost its bold face when Samurai copied the text.

[taintedlunch]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/taintedlunch/taintedlunch/robin.jpg

[SoulOnIce]

What relevance to the story is her Jewishness? The headline of the article is even "Brit Jew marries dolphin."

Just wondering...

edit: Duh me. It's an Israeli news source.

[Lester C.]

For the record I feel that some of you are using this news story about this poor mentally disturbed women as an excuse to bash gays which is just plain pathetic.

[Deathstroke]

Check out my thread on the Community board about the PETA member who exhibits the same sort of COMPLETE FRELLING STUPIDITY.

[Ed Cunard]

For the record I feel that some of you are using this news story about this poor mentally disturbed women as an excuse to bash gays which is just plain pathetic.

I agree with this, but...

Bowling?

[Loren]

I'm a bit curious about the source. YNet credits Yedioth Ahronoth with the story, but according to their website, they are actually Yedioth Ahronoth's English website. Never heard of the newspaper before, but I'd like to see some corroboration from a news source that I have heard of (and is at least moderately trustworthy).

There's no good online source yet, but I saw the story on CNN Headline News during lunch. They talked to the "Bottlenose Bride" (though I couldn't hear it, as the sound was off), and showed footage of her kissing the dolphin and jumping into the water in her wedding dress.

[Lester C.]

I’ll be blunt. Samurai has generally been very polite and has been the victim of repeated bashing and insults because of his right wing beliefs. If you read the political thread objectively you will find that posters snap on him quite frequently and he generally has to take it because he will get banned if he replied in kind and I think that’s wrong as hell but that is a separate issue that needs to be addressed. He is just using this story to very subtly bash gays and while I generally feel for him there is no excuse. He’s implying that people who are pro gay rights are mentally disturbed and are akin to a poor emotionally disturbed women that needs help which is total bullshit and has me pissed off.

Don’t get me wrong I like Samurai. We may be political opposites but we share the same passions. One such passion is Japan. Samurai has was an expatriate there for two years and if I ever find the courage I will one day follow suite. However despite my empathy and like for the man this thread is just a slap to the face to people who don’t share his beliefs.

[Nick Soapdish]

I’ll be blunt. Samurai has generally been very polite and has been the victim of repeated bashing and insults because of his right wing beliefs.

I disagree. I've only been here for about a year, but I no longer believe that it's his beliefs that incur the bashing.

[Night Swordsman]

After alot of very serious posts,please forgive me for this one:

All i want to know,did she choose to marry on porpoise? :p





And to be serious again,i do not condone bashing of anyone. I do believe in expressing your beliefs,even if they are negative,but not to the point of hurting someone. Any negative posts(and unfortantly,i seem to have made a few today),are mainly to point out my dislike,without insulting,of what certain posters may of said about me or people who do things or like things that i do.

If the law where this woman lives allows her to marry a dolphin,and she wishes too,frankly i support her right to do so. You may not like it,I may not like it,but if this brings joy to that womans life and is legal,i see no harm in it.

[Jared_Humpherys]

I should've known better than to read this topic without logging in(got the ignore function on when I'm logged). However...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3191923,00.html


Who are we to stand in the way of such love? Surely we in the US need to recognize such marriages by redefining it to say "Any 2 mammals who love each other"... :eek: :rolleyes:

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[Spike-X]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3191923,00.html


Who are we to stand in the way of such love? Surely we in the US need to recognize such marriages by redefining it to say "Any 2 mammals who love each other"... :eek: :rolleyes:
You're right, Samurai. A human marrying an animal is directly comparable to two people marrying each other.

If you've been smoking lots and lots of crack.

[Samurai]

You're right, Samurai. A human marrying an animal is directly comparable to two people marrying each other.

If you've been smoking lots and lots of crack.
Funny, I don't see that anywhere in my quote. Care to show exactly where I said that above, I'm sure I must've just blinked and missed it...

[Samurai]

I’ll be blunt. Samurai has generally been very polite and has been the victim of repeated bashing and insults because of his right wing beliefs. If you read the political thread objectively you will find that posters snap on him quite frequently and he generally has to take it because he will get banned if he replied in kind and I think that’s wrong as hell but that is a separate issue that needs to be addressed. He is just using this story to very subtly bash gays and while I generally feel for him there is no excuse. He’s implying that people who are pro gay rights are mentally disturbed and are akin to a poor emotionally disturbed women that needs help which is total bullshit and has me pissed off.

Don’t get me wrong I like Samurai. We may be political opposites but we share the same passions. One such passion is Japan. Samurai has was an expatriate there for two years and if I ever find the courage I will one day follow suite. However despite my empathy and like for the man this thread is just a slap to the face to people who don’t share his beliefs.
You and I may think she's nuts for doing this, but is she really clinically insane? If so, why isn't she locked up? (Should she be?) Is she merely "eccentric", has she chosen an "alternate lifestyle", or is her attraction to dolphins something she was born with (remember this is her "dream come true"...)? What should be done with people like her? Just point and laugh at them, try to "cure" them of their attraction, or should the culture accept and embrace them and their love that dare not speak (or meow or howl) its name? Are we so confident of our own moral superiority that we can catagorically tell her she's sick and wrong? And if so, why blast others who feel exactly the same way about other relationships they find disgusting?

[Spike-X]

Funny, I don't see that anywhere in my quote. Care to show exactly where I said that above, I'm sure I must've just blinked and missed it...
Oh yes, of course. That snarky little statement of yours I quoted has absolutely nothing to do with how you've been saying for months now that letting gay people get married will lead to people being allowed to marry animals, children, and kitchen appliances. I don't know how I could possibly have made such a spurious connection.

[Screwtape]

Yes, yes, but I want to get back to the subject at hand, which is the number of godawful jokes that can be reasonably achieved with this marvelous article. Can we discuss the porpoise of marriage, for example? Or the Fish License skit from Monty Python? Or the possibilities of transspecies operations? I, for example, feel that I am a fish born in a human body and would like to request a full-body transplant.

[Lester C.]

You and I may think she's nuts for doing this, but is she really clinically insane? Yes


If so, why isn't she locked up?

Walk in any major city and you will see men and women that are not mentally equipped to get through life unassisted. Many years ago New York released most of their mentally ill people for expense reasons. After they did that their homeless rate exploded. Their are many people out there that are mentally ill and go untreated for a variety of reasons the largest being you just can’t go locking up people unless it’s voluntary or they go around committing crimes which of course is the right thing to do we are a free society after all. The problem of course is that people that far gone don’t have the mental capabilities to assess their situation and their environment honestly.

This is an opinion that always gets me yelled it but I truly believe that all people who engage in drugs do so as a form of self medication Why else would they put substances in their bodies that literary destroys their bodies and minds. These people, in my opinion which admittedly is hardly that of an expert, have untreated mental issues. I think they need help so they can live life to its fullest potential. Quite frankly the women who married a dolphin is a more pure example of the legions of people that need medication and I know how awful that sounds but I‘ve seen several friends go through miraculous transformations after getting put on meds as adults that they wished they had as children.

[Screwtape]

Also, a prize for the best "blowhole" joke.

[Kyuubi]

I don't get it.


Is Samurai upset because the woman married a dolphin?

Or is Samurai upset because she married a female dolphin?

[El Santo]

Actually it's a male dolphin with a female name.

[Kyuubi]

Actually it's a male dolphin with a female name.



Oh!


I still don't get the connection between animals and gay people.

[Lester C.]

http://www.asiapundit.com/Shanghai%20ginseng.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/trigunfan1/UglyManOrWomen.jpg

Don't judge their love. :evilsmile

[Lester C.]

Oh!


I still don't get the connection between animals and gay people.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3191923,00.html


Who are we to stand in the way of such love? Surely we in the US need to recognize such marriages by redefining it to say "Any 2 mammals who love each other"... :eek: :rolleyes:

I think it pretty clear what Samurai was going for Kyuubi.

[Kyuubi]

I think it pretty clear what Samurai was going for Kyuubi.



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Gay people are just like any other living breathing person on this planet and deserve the same rights and freedoms all people deserve?

[Samurai]

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Gay people are just like any other living breathing person on this planet and deserve the same rights and freedoms all people deserve?
Speciesist! Dolphophobe! ;)

[TCJohnson]

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Gay people are just like any other living breathing person on this planet and deserve the same rights and freedoms all people deserve?


Now don't be silly. You know that Samurai doesn't think gay people should have the same rights as dolphins.

[Samurai]

Now don't be silly. You know that Samurai doesn't think gay people should have the same rights as dolphins.
To end up packed in a can together with tuna? ;)

[Lester C.]

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Gay people are just like any other living breathing person on this planet and deserve the same rights and freedoms all people deserve?

Beautifully put Kyuubi. You said in one sentence what I tried to clumsily say in several paragraphs. Good post. Seriously I’m proud of you depite the fact that you are a penguin pirate bastard.

[Kyuubi]

Beautifully put Kyuubi. You said in one sentence what I tried to clumsily say in several paragraphs. Good post.



SUCCESS!



High five!

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[tangentman]

Ah, it must be time for yet ANOTHER "slippery slope" commentary from Samurai! We know that conservatives don't rely too heavy on THAT rationalization against gay people having the right to marry the people they love. Two consenting adults who love one another = Questionably ill woman who marries a dolphin.

Of course, I'm compelled to wonder if the woman didn't stage this as a public hoax to make the exact same statement as Samurai. Though I suspect that SHE was more honest with her presentation, if that's the case.

[Adam Crocker]

Funny, I don't see that anywhere in my quote. Care to show exactly where I said that above, I'm sure I must've just blinked and missed it...

You mean besides your blatant application of arguments used by supporters of gay marriages being applied to this story?

[tangentman]

Please stop playing that slow shit with us, Samurai. I refuse to believe that your post was an innocent coincidence. You knew damn well what you meant AND how it would go over when you posted that remark.

[Screwtape]

Gay people are caught in tuna fishing nets all the time. It's tragic, and I think Samurai makes a good point here.

See? I get it. I'm culturally sensitive.

[Samurai]

Ah, it must be time for yet ANOTHER "slippery slope" commentary from Samurai! We know that conservatives don't rely too heavy on THAT rationalization against gay people having the right to marry the people they love. Two consenting adults who love one another = Questionably ill woman who marries a dolphin.

Of course, I'm compelled to wonder if the woman didn't stage this as a public hoax to make the exact same statement as Samurai. Though I suspect that SHE was more honest with her presentation, if that's the case.

The slope has slipped, cause this happened, as did polygamy in the Netherlands, etc. The "it can't happen" argument is dead and all that's left is "well, it probably won't happen here..."

People keep saying "questionably ill" or "sick" or "mentally disturbed" woman, yet it doesn't specifically say that in the story. Are you just inferring that from her actions, the way many others once believed gay people to be mentally ill and in need of therapy?

And Screwtape, I'd love to see a photoshopped picture of Richard Simmons caught in a net full of fish... ;)

[Screwtape]

Richard Simmons is gay?

[Samurai]

Richard Simmons is gay?
If he was any more gay he'd be the Human Torch.

[tangentman]

Yes, you could say that "questionably ill" is passing a value judgement on the woman's mental health. However, it seems to me that "questionable" is also a qualifier which allows room to suggest that maybe she's not sick. Of course, I'm still at a loss to how you can reasonably compare a relationship between consenting adults with a woman marrying a creature that cannot answer one way or another in any way ethically/legally/psychologically recognizable to humans. The real issue here isn't the mental state of a woman marrying a dolphin--it's the statements you're making about gay people and their relationships. Other than a few "cute" quips, you continually fail to show any real relationship between the two types of relationships to say that gay relationships are essentially the same as bestiality.

I've asked you a question before, and I don't recall you ever giving me any real answer. Since you're acknowledging your belief that we're all sliding down that "slippery slope", let me ask you again. What do you want done with gay people, since we obviously bring up issues which cause you to frequently make these posts? Whether or not you approve of gay people, we're here, bud. Do you want gay people to be invisible, "cured", institutionalized in hospitals or jails, segregated, or even executed?

[Lester C.]

Here is an interesting and profoundly disturbing side note. Doctors in America, until a few short decades ago, did consider homosexuality a profound mental illness. They used everything from shock therapy to lobotomies to cure these poor bastards. Today its considered a very sad note in American psychology.

[TCJohnson]

The slope has slipped, cause this happened, as did polygamy in the Netherlands, etc. The "it can't happen" argument is dead and all that's left is "well, it probably won't happen here..."

Except it didn't happen. Not legally. Yeah the ceremony was performed but that does not mean it is a legally recognized marriage. So again, just because we think gays should have the same rights as everybody else doesn't mean that this kind of thing will ever be legally recognized.

And Screwtape, I'd love to see a photoshopped picture of Richard Simmons caught in a net full of fish.

And you call Richard SImmons gay?

[Ed Cunard]

Bowling?

...

[Gilda Dent]

The slope has slipped, cause this happened, as did polygamy in the Netherlands, etc. The "it can't happen" argument is dead and all that's left is "well, it probably won't happen here..."

Is this a legally recognized marriage in the US? In the UK? Isreal? Anywhere? It's hardly the same issue, then is it? It's only the opponents of same-sex marriage that equate it with bestiality.

Gilda

[Spike-X]

The slope has slipped, cause this happened...

Do you have a copy of their legally binding marriage contract/civil union agreement, then?

How about a link to the brand new law (so new, apparently none of us have even heard of it yet) which allows people and animals to marry?

Or are you, once again, just talking out of your arse?

[Samurai]

Yes, you could say that "questionably ill" is passing a value judgement on the woman's mental health. However, it seems to me that "questionable" is also a qualifier which allows room to suggest that maybe she's not sick. Of course, I'm still at a loss to how you can reasonably compare a relationship between consenting adults with a woman marrying a creature that cannot answer one way or another in any way ethically/legally/psychologically recognizable to humans. The real issue here isn't the mental state of a woman marrying a dolphin--it's the statements you're making about gay people and their relationships. Other than a few "cute" quips, you continually fail to show any real relationship between the two types of relationships to say that gay relationships are essentially the same as bestiality.

I've asked you a question before, and I don't recall you ever giving me any real answer. Since you're acknowledging your belief that we're all sliding down that "slippery slope", let me ask you again. What do you want done with gay people, since we obviously bring up issues which cause you to frequently make these posts? Whether or not you approve of gay people, we're here, bud. Do you want gay people to be invisible, "cured", institutionalized in hospitals or jails, segregated, or even executed?
I've answered that question many times before, though I don't know if it was directly to you. I'd like to see gay people given all the legal benefits and hinderances of marriage wrapped up in a package called civil unions, and then both sides dropping the issue and leaving each other alone to do, feel, believe, and behave pretty much as they wish. I'd like to see hate crime laws stricken from the books, but people punished according to what they did wrong, not whether or not they did it to a "protected class". I'd like to see some understanding of the concerns and fears of straight Americans by the gay marriage lobbyists and an effort to acknowledge them and work through them instead of calling them foolish and irrelevant (even if you think they are). I'd like to see less of "Hey, lets freak the bigotted norms and breeders!" and more "How can we work together to reach a middle ground?"

[Spike-X]

Yeah. We never should have let them uppity black folks sit up the front of the bus. They should have been more understanding and tolerant of the people who wanted them to stay up the back, then one day, if they were lucky, and the white folks felt like letting them, they might have been allowed to sit in the middle.

[Lester C.]

Um this has nothing to do with the discussion but Gilda I just love your new avatar. The best one yet.

[Screwtape]

I'm still in shock.

I... I always felt so... butch when I was "Sweatin' to the Oldies." No, I just can't believe it. That's like reading gay subtext into Elton John's music.

I'm going to go do some leg lifts to "Rocketman."

[Gilda Dent]

I'd like to see gay people given all the legal benefits and hinderances of marriage wrapped up in a package called civil unions,

Except for the name, I agree here 100%. The problem is that history has shown that separate but equal doesn't work, and that the same people voting for defense of marriage laws are also voting to make sure that DOMA's also prevent the legalization of any institution that grats the same rights as marriage.

and then both sides dropping the issue and leaving each other alone to do, feel, believe, and behave pretty much as they wish.

Here's the thing. Gay marriage proponents are already leaving those in traditional marriages alone to do, feel, believe, and behave as they wish. We just want the same treatment from them.

I'd like to see hate crime laws stricken from the books, but people punished according to what they did wrong, not whether or not they did it to a "protected class".

Eh. Separate issue. Hate crimes legislation is like any other aggravating factor. It's an aggravating factor, like murder for hire or torture. We already take motive into account when determining degree of accountablility for a great many crimes, specifically violent crimes. We already take the victim's status into account when determining punishment in a number of crimes, specifically sex crimes or domestic abuse. Hate crimes legislation is just an extension of that same principal.

I'd like to see some understanding of the concerns and fears of straight Americans by the gay marriage lobbyists and an effort to acknowledge them and work through them instead of calling them foolish and irrelevant (even if you think they are).

Why work through foolish and irrelevant fears? Shouldn't laws be based on reason and what benefits or harm occur as a result of a particular law?

I'd like to see less of "Hey, lets freak the bigotted norms and breeders!" and more "How can we work together to reach a middle ground?"

I wouldn't. When it comes to basic human rights, working towards a middle ground results in one group of people being counted as whole people, another as 3/5 or a person, and still another as not a person at all. Anything less than equal rights for all, and not some watered down rights for the undesirables, is unacceptable.

Gilda

[Gilda Dent]

Um this has nothing to do with the discussion but Gilda I just love your new avatar. The best one yet.

It's my favorite of those I've used, too. It's an actual photo of me, not a piece of 3-D artwork that I like because it looks a little like me and appears to be looking at my post. :D.

Gilda

[f. chong rutherford]

You guys do all realize that the crazy lady didn't actually marry the dolphin, right? They had a ceremony, but there's no license--legally, she isn't married to the animal.

Anyway, Happy New Year!

[tangentman]

Well said, Gilda!

Samurai: I haven't seen anything that proves hate crime laws are intended to set up "protected classes of people" while victimizing the "majority". If anything, hate crime laws are meant to discourage acts intended to target, demoralize, and terrorize minorities. For example, a hate crime law wouldn't pertain to a criminal robbing a random man who happened to be gay. OTOH, such laws WOULD address a group of young men visiting a neighborhood with gay-owned/frequented businesses to deliberately seek out and assault gay people. Those sort of criminals act with the intention of sending a violent threat to an entire population of people.

[Yoda]

Bowling?

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How does one bowl with a dolphin?

[Yoda]

Well said, Gilda!

Samurai: I haven't seen anything that proves hate crime laws are intended to set up "protected classes of people" while victimizing the "majority". If anything, hate crime laws are meant to discourage acts intended to target, demoralize, and terrorize minorities. For example, a hate crime law wouldn't pertain to a criminal robbing a random man who happened to be gay. OTOH, such laws WOULD address a group of young men visiting a neighborhood with gay-owned/frequented businesses to deliberately seek out and assault gay people. Those sort of criminals act with the intention of sending a violent threat to an entire population of people.
There was an interesting case just outside of Boston a little while ago. Some guy apparently went into this convienance store and asked the clerks if they were gay. The clerks said no, and asked the guy if he was gay and the guy punched one of them. Now the police arrested the guy and he was charged with a hate crime. It was in the news for a bit, but it didnt sound like they would actually pursue the hate crime charges.

Unrealted to the main topic, but legally it was kind of an interesting story.

[tangentman]

The guy in the story sounds as though he went in there trying to set up the clerks for a fight. Not to mention that he sounds like an idiot. What possesses people to make those sort of decisions?

[taintedlunch]

What possesses people to make those sort of decisions?

Sometimes with the right combination of genes and environmental factors, what you get is a total fucking idiot of superhuman proportions. There are lots of people screwing indiscriminantly nowadays so it's happening a lot more frequently.

Hey, maybe I can spin this off into an "arranged marriages are a good idea" thread!?

[Adam Crocker]

The slope has slipped, cause this happened, as did polygamy in the Netherlands, etc. The "it can't happen" argument is dead and all that's left is "well, it probably won't happen here..."

No, it didn't. (http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2005/12/polygamy-and-slippery-slope-fallacy.html) Moreover, the link presents one of the biggest problems with the slipper slope argument, it assumes a simplified, ahistorical view of society that assumes if something changes one way, other changes will naturally follow. It is made entirely absent of the social pressures and forces that lead to enacting this change. Given that push for polygamy is negligble in North American society how can it be assumed that legalizing gay marriage opens the way for polygamy?

[Screwtape]

How does one bowl with a dolphin?I think you have to find a rare genetic defect that gives the dolphin three blowholes and an unusually docile disposition, but due to a loophole in league rules, it's a surefire way to get a strike every time. Hell on your arm, though. :D

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. There are rules."

[Charles RB]

The slope has slipped, cause this happened

Eilat is in Israel, so Google tells me. Does Israel have legalised gay marriage?

If not, using the "slippery slope" argument for this is like finding someone in Israel committing murder in Israel and saying it's because Britain let Grand Theft Auto be sold in Britain.

More to the point- is this an actual, legal marriage under Israeli law or not? Because I really doubt the Israeli state recognises marriage to animals.

[Cam63]

It's my favorite of those I've used, too. It's an actual photo of me, not a piece of 3-D artwork that I like because it looks a little like me and appears to be looking at my post. :D.

Gilda

Damn ! You pretty !

[Lester C.]

Damn ! You pretty !

Why thank you Cam. In an unrelated post I did think I was looking at a supermodel when I saw Gilda's new avatar. Gilda’s significant other is one lucky women let me tell you.

[Cam63]

I reckon !
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[Charles RB]

We concur.

[Adam Crocker]

Eilat is in Israel, so Google tells me. Does Israel have legalised gay marriage?

But Charles! Some people held a wedding ceremony for a non-legally sanctioned union in the Netherlands and then entered into a private contract! The slipperly slope has slipped!

[Spackling Compound]

Gay people are caught in tuna fishing nets all the time. It's tragic, and I think Samurai makes a good point here.

See? I get it. I'm culturally sensitive.
Tragic only when the fishnets don't go with the shoes..

http://www.carpentersquare.com/images/rocky1985a_01.jpg
and, honey, just 'cause it's in fishnets don't make it "tuna"...

[Adam Crocker]

Tragic only when the fishnet doesn't run up the back of the calf evenly...

http://www.issue9mm.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_cry.gif

[Charles RB]

But Charles! Some people held a wedding ceremony for a non-legally sanctioned union in the Netherlands and then entered into a private contract! The slipperly slope has slipped!

Yeah, but that's the Netherlands. They don't even bother with the slope there. It'd never happen in Britain- we're too uptighty and cissy.

[Lester C.]

Richard Simmons is gay?

I know he has certain mannerism that have been stereotyped as gay but is their any evidence to support this? To be honest I never given this issue much thought but now I find myself intrigued.

[Jared_Humpherys]

I know he has certain mannerism that have been stereotyped as gay but is their any evidence to support this? To be honest I never given this issue much thought but now I find myself intrigued.

Well, he DID hump several of the male cast members in an episode of "Whose Line is it Anyway?"...

[Lester C.]

Well, he DID hump several of the male cast members in an episode of "Whose Line is it Anyway?"...

According to wikipedia he issued a 2003 press release saying that he was straight.

[Spike-X]

According to wikipedia he issued a 2003 press release saying that he was straight.
And he actually expected people to believe it?

[Lester C.]

I just went to Simmons’s official website and elsewhere I saw video footage of the man. As much as it pains me to admit this I’m going to go ahead and label him gay based on his appearance and mannerism. I hate judging a book by its cover but he is screaming gay to me.

[Jared_Humpherys]

I just went to Simmons’s official website and elsewhere I saw video footage of the man. As much as it pains me to admit this I’m going to go ahead and label him gay based on his appearance and mannerism. I hate judging a book by its cover but he is screaming gay to me.


http://www.rugbyfootball.com/gallery1/richard_simmons_2.jpg

http://malcontent.typepad.com/malcontent/images/richardsimmons.jpg

I don't blame you.

[Spike-X]

I hate judging a book by its cover...

Me too, but when the cover of the book is bright pink with OMFG I AM SO GAY!!! on it*, it's hard not to jump to certain conclusions.










* Not that there's anything wrong with that...

[Adam Crocker]

Yeah, but that's the Netherlands. They don't even bother with the slope there. It'd never happen in Britain- we're too uptighty and cissy.

This is true.

You guys couldn't handle Steve Jones saying "fuck" on the telly. :p

[Lester C.]

Here a theory. Maybe Richard is as straight as an arrow and has had wild passionate sex with thousands upon thousands of beautiful women. Think about he’s a celebrity when he shouldn’t be simply because he has drawn attention to himself by the way he acts. Plenty of people, myself included, have lost massive amounts of weight but very few us become multimillionaires because of it. I think I might be on to something here.

[EdContradictory]

The slope has slipped, cause this happened
As she just held a ceremony and was not, actually, legally marrried, no it hasn't.

[taintedlunch]

Here a theory. Maybe Richard is as straight as an arrow and has had wild passionate sex with thousands upon thousands of beautiful women. Think about he’s a celebrity when he shouldn’t be simply because he has drawn attention to himself by the way he acts. Plenty of people, myself included, have lost massive amounts of weight but very few us become multimillionaires because of it. I think I might be on to something here.

He needs to find a "beard" like Tom Cruise. ;)

[Spike-X]

Yeah, that'll certianly end all the speculation!